you know, as opposed to the muslim brotherhood who's been around for 80 years, you know. so people vote for whoever they see in front of them. >> reporter: it was young, secular egyptians like salem who sparked last year's protests with their demands for justice and freedom. they were been sidelined in these elections, but salem say he has no regrets. >> now we get to play the role of the opposition, which is so much more fun, you know. hey, islamists, you wanted power? fantastic. i want social justice now. get it done. >> reporter: but others worry democracy has been hijacked by parties they say have little respect for personal rights and >> it is scary on many issues, especially the social issues, minorities, christians. also the status of women, civil liberties, personal liberties in general. what are they going to do with them? >> reporter: sadek says egyptians have legitimate concerns about this parliament's intentions, given the poor human rights records of islamist-run countries like sudan and iran. >> islam has many variety of readings and many interpretations. if

aid being scrapped by egypt led to threats from the muslim muslim brotherhood but the same time most egyptians oppose u.s. aid to their country calling it a humiliation do you think there are voices will lead to more public anger. if i understood your question correctly we're talking about voices within egypt that are in egypt it was always a pro opposed to american aid to the country. oh that are opposed to the american aid to the country certainly there are many i think it is who are opposed to american aid because they see it as interventionism in an attempt by america to push forward its agenda within egypt and i think that these kinds of anti-american sentiments are once again being encouraged both by the military by the supreme council of the armed forces and by the muslim brotherhood each for their own reason so certainly there are those in egypt who oppose american aid they see it as a threat and i wouldn't be surprised if the united states itself decides to cancel its one point three one point four billion dollar aid to egypt in the near future especially in light of the fac

i think that's going to be a challenge for the muslim brotherhood. i think they're more worried about the sell fates than they are about their own internal problems. >> but, they're not going to take a position on foreign policy issues. are their interests more internal? because i think it's when, um, i think from the perspective of the u.s. when radical islam becomes a problem is when it confronts foreign policy interests. and, you know, will it just be a matter of accommodation between the brotherhood and the sal fists that they can do their thing internally, domestically, socially and then the brotherhood and, you know, the military authorities can continue to control the foreign policy domain? is it, do you think the calltist bees have an -- >> they might make a run at camp david in some form or at least into modified camp david. that would be crowd pleasing, i think. but beyond that, no, i think they're going to focus on a domestic agenda. and rob points out a very interesting dynamic that could come forward in that they could really embarrass t

you know, as opposed to the muslim brotherhood who's been around for 80 years, you know. so people vote for whoever they see in front of them. >> reporter: it was young, secular egyptians like salem who sparked last year's protests with their demands for justice and freedom. they were been sidelined in these elections, but salem say he has no regrets. >> now we get to play the role of the opposition, which is so much more fun, you know. hey, islamists, you wanted power? fantastic. i want social justice now. get it done. >> reporter: but others worry democracy has been hijacked by parties they say have little respect for personal rights and freedoms. >> it is scary on many issues, especially the social issues, minorities, christians. also the status of women, civil liberties, personal liberties in general. what are they going to do with them? >> reporter: sadek says egyptians have legitimate concerns about this parliament's intentions, given the poor human rights records of islamist-run countries like sudan and iran. >> islam has many variety of readings and many interpret

in other words, i think the muslim brotherhood and others will have to govern, not rule, and i think what this leads to in my mind is the israelis looked at the palestinian and if i'm right there will be elections this year and the elections will be an awful lot about shaping the future identity of the palestinians and israel has an enormous stake in ensuring that those palestinians who believe in nonviolence, who believe in coexistence are the ones who were validated. >> you came very close both in the parameters and in the aspen facility and camp david of coming really close to what that arab -- that palestinian-israeli deal would be. is that still the outline of the deal that could be if they both could get there? >> you know, i would love to be able to say yes. i'm not sure because right now i don't think the context lends itself very well to producing a status deal. when i say from an israeli stand point it's important to try to validate those palestinians who believe in nonviolence. it's not because i believe necessarily the conduct that exists today to do a deal. >> why not? >

so i was not as precise when i made that statement a year ago about the muslim brotherhood, as i should have been. >> and thank you for your response, and i had another question about egypt as well. since mubarak was overthrown, the sinai has become a highway for the transport of terror personnel and material and the cross-border terror attacks on israeli motorists en route to iliyat in august and the bombing on the pipeline are two notable examples we've observed. egypt opened its land border with the hamas controlled gaza and currently we have two battalions i believe stationed in northern and southern sinai as the lead force and the mfo observers in charge of the implementation of the egypt/israel peace treaty. would you in your estimation say our u.s. forces are at risk and have the rules of engagement changed and are they involved in all in efforts to prevent the transportation of sinai into another tear haven that will continue to destabilize the peace between israel and egypt, and if so, how, and if not, why not? >> i think at best, unless director we trpetraeus knows th probably

it's a strange move from the muslim brotherhood but we've seen as continuously not backing revolutionary actions so for example in december there were a sit ins into his square against the military and the most of brotherhood refrain from getting involved and because they were actually sort of doing their campaigns for the elections and there's a brotherhood of playing a safe game at the moment i think people here saying that in parliament they want to stay in parliament it want to rock the boat. they were calling these strike actions as destructive and i'm going to cause the ruin of egypt so i think for them just protecting their own interests which is to stay in parliament where they have a majority what is the future then for egypt with that muslim brotherhoods majority in parliament. it's a difficult one to predict exactly what's going to happen i mean the parliament itself as quiet reduce legislative power thanks to the constitution that gratian written by the ruling military council so it's difficult to say how much effect the muslim brotherhood is going to have on egypt as we hear

it's a strange move from the muslim brotherhood but we've seen as continuously not backing revolutionary actions so for example in december there were sit ins into his square against the military and the most of brotherhood refrain from getting involved and because they were actually sort of doing their campaigns for the elections and there's a brotherhood of playing a safe game at the moment i think people here saying that in parliament they want to stay in parliament it want to rock the boat. they were calling these strike actions as destructive and i'm going to cause the ruin of egypt so i think for them they're just protecting their own interests which is to stay in parliament where they have a majority and what is the future then for egypt with that muslim brotherhoods majority in parliament. is a difficult one to predict exactly what's going to happen i mean the parliament itself has quiet reduced alleged power thanks to the constitution that gratian written by the ruling military council so it's difficult to say how much effect the muslim brotherhood is going to have on egypt as w

it's a strange move from the muslim brotherhood but we've seen this continuously not backing revolutionary actions so for example during the bamber in december there were sit ins into his square against the military and the most in brotherhood refrain from getting involved and because they were actually sort of doing their campaigns for the elections and there's a brotherhood of playing a safe game at the moment i think people here saying that in parliament they want to stay in parliament it want to rock the boat. they were calling these strike actions as destructive and i'm going to cause the ruin of egypt so i think for them they're just protecting their own interests which is to stay in parliament where they have a majority and what is the future then for egypt with that muslim brotherhoods majority in parliament. it's a difficult one to predict exactly what's going to happen i mean the parliament itself quiet reduced alleged power thanks to the constitution that gratian written by the ruling military council so it's difficult to say how much effect the muslim brotherhood is going to ha

it's a strange move from the muslim brotherhood but we've seen as continuously not backing revolutionary actions so for example during the bamber in december there were sit ins in tahrir square against the military and the most of brotherhood refrain from getting involved and because they were actually sort of doing their campaigns for the elections and there's a brotherhood of playing a safe game at the moment i think people here saying that in parliament they want to stay in parliament it want to rock the boat. they were calling these strike actions is destructive and i'm going to cause the ruin of egypt so i think for them they're just protecting their own interests which is to stay in parliament where they have a majority and what is the future then for egypt with that muslim brotherhoods majority in parliament. it's a difficult one to predict exactly what's going to happen i mean the parliament itself as quiet reduce alleged power thanks to the constitution that gratian written by the ruling military council so it's difficult to say how much effect the muslim brotherhood is going to

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the gulf the two dollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or link to the muslim brotherhood or the salafist are trying to influence the obama administration so that they would be in line with the interests of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the advantage in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region. later the program of silence the truth will go on trial reveal the tough choices facing the u.s. whistleblowers as the set of standards to classify crimes under the guise of national security. protests turned deadly in afghanistan as controversial so-called arab by u.s. led troops continues to fan the flames of conflict. now tens of thousands of people are expected to take to the streets of moscow today supporting or opposing candidates in the upcoming race for the presidency the cabin is bracing itself for rallies and spark political

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the gulf petrodollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will condos most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to or the muslim brotherhood or the salafist it is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that the trying to influence the administration so that there would be in line with the interest of the muslim brotherhood in egypt in the islamists in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region. well coming up later in the program silence the truth will go on trial reveal the choice facing the u.s. whistleblowers as a new set of standards classified edge crimes and the guise of national security. plus the protest turned deadly in afghanistan as controversial so-called u.s. led troops it's used to fan the flames of conflict. tens of thousands of people are expe

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the goals of the two dollars that satellite support they are well organized when the election will combos not organize and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to the muslim brotherhood or the salafist is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and of course the last three or four years of the obama administration what is happening is that you're trying to influence the administration so that there would be in line with the interest of the muslim brotherhood in egypt in the islamic in libya and in tunisia and i gained the secular and liberal forces in the region. well coming up later in the program silence the truth or go on trial we'll the tough choices facing u.s. whistleblowers as a new set of standards aimed to classify crimes in the guise of national security. plus protests turned deadly in afghanistan controversial so-called arab spring u.s. their troops used to fan the flames of conflict. now tens of thousands of people ar

they're muslim brotherhoods, selar peoplekurds ara. syria has to develop a leadership which is going to take time. a leadership that's respected on the ground and i think we're going to see such a leadership evolve out of this military... what is now a military uprising and america may well and other governments are already i think funding and arming and training this opposition and that's going to be the way it is because the awite regime is not going to give up diplomatically. they've made that clear. this is going to be won on the battlefield and if the west was to influce it they have to a and fund the opposition. but that's going to take a lon time. it won't happen any time soon. >> rose: it's unlikely to happen but suppose assad said "i don't want to go where qaddafi went." >> that's unlikely. he's got a lot of support. >> rose: okay. so he's going to goo the end, you're suggesting. he will battle to the end because he thinks he can possibly win. >> and also it's because the minority... the future looks bleak for the allow wetes

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the goal for two dollars to have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or link to the muslim brotherhood or the salafist it's an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and now of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that the trying to influence the administration so that there would be in line with the interest of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the islamists in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region take a look at some other stories making headlines across the globe a wave of attacks across a dozen iraqi cities has left at least sixty dead biol and started with a drive by shooting in baghdad followed by blasts in and out of the capital no one has yet claimed responsibility for the attacks that most in targeted security officers in shia areas violence comes ju

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the goals of the two dollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to or the muslim brotherhood or the salafist it is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and now of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that the trying to influence the administration so that they would be in line with the interests of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the islamists in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region from mubarak's trial to footage from the ongoing protests in the heart of cairo all artes videos can be found in our you tube channel and free video dot com. could you take three days for free. range free. free. free. download free broadcast video for your media project free media don carty dot com. two nato troops have been killed by an afghan soldier in

essentially they would like a syrian version of the muslim brotherhood to run the country and then the united states will do deals with them as it has done in the past. in america china as a vice president wasn't treated to the warmest of welcomes from u.s. officials vice president joe biden voiced the whole list of disappointments from beijing's economic policies to its stance on syria criticism was also level that china over its copyright in force and human rights record part from that brief exchange yesterday was largely ceremonial as american leaders sign stuck paying the man widely tipped to leave beijing over the next decade parties christine says our reports now on the rocky relationship between the two economic times. he loves me lets me know that age old question is one china at least has every right to ask regarding its relationship with the united states just in the last three years china has been wind. praised and envy for its ability to do whatever it wants right now in china the government can disconnect parts of its internet in the case of war we need to have the chinese

they're muslim brotherhoods, secular people, kurds, arabs. syria has to develop a leadership which is going to take time. a leadership that's respected on the ground and i think we're going to see such a leadership evolve out of this military... what is now a military uprising and america may well and other governments are already i think funding and arming and training this opposition and that's going to be the way it is because the awite regime is not going to give up diplomatically. they've made that clear. this is going to be won on the battlefield and if the west wants to influence it they have to arm and fund the opposition. but that's going to take a lon time. it won't happen any time soon. >> rose: it's unlikely to happen but suppose assad said "i don't want to go where qaddafi went." >> that's unlikely. he's got a lot of support. >> rose: okay. so he's going to goo the end, you're suggesting. he will battle to the end because he thinks he can possibly win. >> and also it's because the minority... the future looks bleak for the allow

brotherhood or the sofa being the only ones who are actually funded by the fact that dollars coming from the gulf having this been supported by satellite there that the live t.v. and also being engaged by the administration i mean this is very odd that our administration has engaged with the muslim brotherhood even before the revolt and after the revolt and the return on what we see is a shutdown of these and you don't and you're right you have a point the result of the arab spring in egypt is not going to be immediately a secular democracy we're going to to begin. goes through a an era of islamic fundamentalism before the next wave of youth affected would rise again. and you know as tensions rise between the us and between egypt look at the bigger picture what does this mean between relations between the two countries are our the us are our close ties with egypt are they over now. not yet i mean the council is still a partner to the u.s. forces there is a somewhere between one point eight to two billion dollars a year going to the ministry of asia but at the horizon what we see is

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the gulf petrodollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to or the muslim brotherhood or the salafist it is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and now of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that the trying to influence the administration so that they would be in line with the interests of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the islamists in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region. turn now to some other stories making headlines across the globe a massive explosion has torn through a bus stop in northwest pakistan killing at least fifteen people including two children even more women and children among at least three dozen injured in the blast police have arrested two suspects from the site the region is located near the border with paki

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the goal for two dollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to or the muslim brotherhood or the salafist is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and now of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that the trying to influence the administration so that there would be in line with the interest of the muslim brotherhood in egypt in the islamist in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region around the world in brief more top news stories now a wave of attacks across a dozen of iraqi cities is left at least sixty dead the violence started with a drive by shooting in baghdad and that was then followed by blasts both inside and outside the capital claimed responsibility for the attacks which mostly targeted security offices in shia areas the violence

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the gulf petrodollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to or the muslim brotherhood or the salafist is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and now of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that they are trying to influence the administration so that they would be in line with the interests of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the islamists in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region. taking a look now at some other stories making headlines across the globe a massive explosion tore through a bus stop in northwest pakistan killing at least fifteen people including two children even more women and children are among at least three dozen injured in the blast police have arrested two suspects from the site the region is located near the borde

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the gulf petrodollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to the muslim brotherhood or the salafist is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and now of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that the trying to influence the administration so that they would be in line with the interests of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the islamists in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region turkey run the world in brief for a headline update a waiver talks across a dozen iraqi cities is left at least sixty dead the violence started with a drive by shooting in baghdad that was followed by blast side and outside the capital no woodchip claimed responsibility for those attacks which mostly targeted security offices and. violence comes just months after u.s

brotherhood the difference was that the muslim brotherhood have support from the gulf petrodollars they have satellite support they are well organized when election will come those most organized and better funded will take over so the advocacy groups that are influenced by or linked to or the muslim brotherhood or the salafist is an old story it was also under the last two years of the bush administration and now of course the last three to four years of the obama administration what is happening is that the trying to influence the administration so that there would be in line with the interest of the muslim brotherhood in egypt and the islamists in libya and in tunisia and against the secular and liberal forces in the region let me take you through some top international headlines in brief the wave of attacks calls doesn't the right to choose is left at least sixty people dead the violence started with a drive by shooting in baghdad and that was then followed by a blast inside and outside the capital no word yet claimed responsibility for the attacks which mostly targeted security off

i sort of agree with the muslim brotherhood official. what was acceptable is no longer. they just had a change of government. it wasn't like a free election. >> can i -- -- >> no. you talked the whole segment. i think it should work both ways ways and maybe we should rethink giving a billion dollars a year to a country that doesn't like us. >> it shouldn't be rethought. it should be instantly revoked. >> it is the rebt on the -- the rent on the peace treaty. >> it is hostage money. >> right now they literally have have -- it is not international relations when you step that far over the line. they literally have hostages. and now they are saying if you don't give us what we want, i guess apparently they are going to double dog dare hate israel like more so than they do now which i think is maxed out. why would we give them money now? this regime, the muslim brotherhood reminds me of -- remember humongous and his cronies from "the road warriors." >> if you don't give that money the security costs increase two fold to 25% of researchers of the that's not acceptable. >> it

and you see what is basically the rise of the muslim brotherhood. an organization that is not by any shape or form likely to be friendly towards israel. israel has had a cold peace with israel but that peace with egypt not only ensure that it could shake a certain kind of posture in terms of its military doctrine and budget, it could count on what was a stable and secure borders and so now suddenly it looks like it is a no-man's land where the muslim brotherhood may have from their standpoint from the israeli standpoint very little stake in controlling what goes on with regard to what could come out into israel. and so the first point of reference is look at how things are changing in terms of egypt and it's a threat. it looks to the north and sees 45 to 50,000 rockets that hezbollah has in lebanon. it looks north and east and sees syria where in the best of cases it seems enormous unknowns. it can't know even if it assumes as many now do that the regime is doomed and it is not going to survive. it doesn't know what the process of its demise is goin

>> i am not clear on how the muslim brotherhood is going to be. i know they will be an elected government. the question is are they going to go the way iran went or the way that other countries that have thrown off the dictators have gone? >> sean: showing egyptian people in overwhelming numbers, 75% wanted sharia law. as the law of the land. how can sharia law be compatible with american values in as much as we're going to give them $800 million when we can least afford it? >> i'm not clear what kind of sharia law they're going to impose, there are many democratic inclined people part of that government. we'll have to see. there are extremists that is hopefully they will not achieve power. mubarak beat up on israel and meanwhile, he kept the peace and he could not stay in power. the question is, is which way is egypt going to go now and do we gain anything by cutting off the system to egypt which is not, by the way aggregated a treaty with israel. >> sean: iran today, real quick. >> iran has proven what we've seen today, you mentioned in the pop

that is the word coming from the muslim brotherhood. three days of mourning in egypt on the back of the violence there in port said. other stories for you now on "bbc world news." pakistan's supreme court says it will charge the prime minister yousuf raza gilani with contempt for failing to reopen an old corruption case against the president. the government insisted the president has immunity from prosecution while he is head of state. more details for us now. >> yes. it looks like the prime minister will be in the dock soon. he's been told to appear in person on the 13th of february to answer these contempt charges. he did make a previous appearance in january. at that time he relied heavily on the argument that while in office he enjoyed immunity and i'm sure that's why he will explain to the court why he didn't follow orders. the supreme court told the government here to take action to revise these old corruption cases, particularly the case against the president. that goes back more than a decade. these charges were in switzerland.

brotherhood as the only organization that is organized enough to take advantage of it to essentially step into the fray are you worried that that will happen in syria well i don't support them politically and i don't think it will be in the interests of syria to have an islamist government you know moderate or extremist the baton seems to be at the moment of saying that the turkish model a moderate islamist government is the best model for the arab world i disagree very strongly but that i don't think it's a good model for turkey either by the way. but the fact is if it's the only power in the land it will and there are elections that will come to power like it has in tunis here like it has in egypt and then one has to deal with it i mean i regard these groups as the slum equivalents of christian democracies socially conservative organizations but perfectly happy to follow the latest economic trends. which dominate the west and do deals with the united states they've done them before the turks are part and parcel of that the strong member of nato and these countries will probably fol

we've heard in the last 24 hours coming out muslim brotherhood in egypt. we have a large aid program particularly military assistance. we know that they have been holding american hostages and we have them at embassy to provide them protection. we heard the muslim brotherhood is threatening us, if we pull back the aid they won't abide with the treaty with israel? >> it's very interesting how obama is going to be handling this. you have to realize since '79 we've been sending over two billion aidtul annually not to mention $1.3 billion for the foreign military aide. you know what i think is odd there is no preconditions on this money. like for human rights. there is no conditions on this money the muslim brotherhood aren't exactly our friends there. when mubarak was overthrown, look what we have now. >> people recognize the military relationship is an important one it's hard tou.s. congress. >> to keep peace and it's really not exactly with what is going on over there. >> i would be surprised if the congress didn't take real action. >> we have actually had

it's not muslim brotherhood that is doing this. it's the remains of the mubarak regime. our relations are very important with egypt. it is in our interests to have good relations with egypt. you might remember we broke off relations with pakistan in the '90s and it didn't turn out very well. the relations are important. we need to help them move forward. i'm very unhappy as americans are about the treatment of our ngos and freedom house and national endowment to democracy but for us not to be involved in the world.... >> sean: the "new york times" reported over the weekend that in fact the muslim brotherhood is seeking to out of the military leaders. they were now elected as islamic radicals have been elected by the people and preparing for war with israel and implementing sharia law as the law of the land. don't we recognize the danger of giving money that could be used against our closest ally there? >> there is significant risk. in tunisia it's a muslim government. they are moderate and they are friendly to the united states of america. that is the case where our assi

brotherhood as the only organization that is organized enough to take advantage of it to essentially step into the fray are you worried that that will happen in syria well i don't support them politically and i don't think it will be in the interests of syria to have an islamist government you know a moderate or extremist the baton seems to be at the moment of saying that the turkish model a moderate islamist government is the best model for the arab world i disagree very strongly that i don't think it's a good model for turkey either by the way. but the fact is if it's the only power in the land it will and there are elections that will come to power like it has into its year like it has in egypt and then one has to deal with it i mean i regard these groups as the roots of christian democracy socially conservative organizations but perfectly happy to follow the latest economic trends. which dominate west. do deals with the united states they've done them before the turks are part and parcel of that the strong member of nato and these countries will probably follow suit whether this

brotherhood as the only organization that is organized enough to take advantage of it to essentially step into the fray are you worried that that will happen in syria well i don't support them politically and i don't think it will be in the interests of syria to have an islamist government you know a moderate or extremist the baton seems to be at the moment of saying that the turkish model a moderate islamist government is the best model for the arab world i disagree very strongly with that i don't think it's a good model for turkey either by the way. but the fact is if it's the only power in the land it will and there are elections that will come to power like it has in tunis here like it has in egypt and then one has to deal with it i mean i regard these groups as the slum equivalents of christian democracies socially conservative organizations but perfectly happy to follow the latest economic trends. which dominate the west and do deals with the united states they've done them before the turks are part and parcel of that the strong member of nato and these countries will probably

brotherhood as the only organization that is organized enough to take advantage of it to essentially step into the fray are you worried that that will happen in syria well i don't support them politically and i don't think it will be in the interests of syria to have an islamist government you know a moderate or extremist the baton seems to be at the moment of saying that the model a moderate islamist government is the best model for the arab world i disagree very strongly that i don't think it's a good model for turkey either by the way. but the fact is if it's the only power in the land it will and there are elections that will come to power like it has in tunis here like it has in egypt and then one has to deal with it i mean i regard these groups as the roots of christian democracy socially conservative organizations but perfectly happy to follow the latest economic trends. which dominate west. do deals with the united states they've done them before the turks are part and parcel of that strong member of nato and these countries will probably follow suit whether this is what peop

brotherhood as the only organization that is organized enough to take advantage of it to essentially step into the fray are you worried that that will happen in syria well i don't support them politically and i don't think it will be in the interests of syria to have an islamist government you know moderate or extremist the pattern seems to be at the moment of saying that the turkish model a moderate islamist government is the best model for the arab world i disagree very strongly with that i don't think it's a good model for turkey either by the way. but the fact is if it's the only power in the land it will and there are elections that will come to power like it has into it's here like it has in egypt and then one has to deal with it i mean i regard these groups as the slum equivalents of christian democracies socially conservative organizations but perfectly happy to follow the latest economic trends. which dominate the west and do deals with the united states they've done them before the turks are part and parcel of that the strong member of nato and these countries will probably

and the muslim's brotherhood spiritual leader called for the killing of united states troops both in iraq and in afghanistan. that's why it's unthinkable that the muslim brotherhood spiritua mediator between the united states and our enemy, the taliban in afghanistan. i can understand why mubarak would not want to empower the brotherhood in egypt. but what i don't understand is why the president of the united states, barack obama, would give the brotherhood a seat of honor at his first foreign policy speech in cairo. president obama said essentially don't worry, the brotherhood isn't a threat. they don't have majority support in egypt. then obama failed to stand by mubar mubarak. that helped fuel the revolution in egypt. it led to a regime that was based on shah reea law with 72% of the seats in the lower house and egypt now occupied by the brotherhood. and even more radical party. the last year what happened? because of the persecution, over 100,000 christians had to flee egypt. the israeli embassy was overrun. there are calls now for ending the 30-year peace treaty between egypt an

providing funding to opposition groups that are tied ultimately with the muslim brotherhood in syria and so forth this is not a secret what's also not a secret is that obama spokesman stated very clearly that the united states is pursuing a range of policy options what is known is special in intelligence circles and other circles as a continuum of force which involves sanctions dissin from ation campaigns psychological pressure attempts to isolate the regime and so forth and this is a kind of measure that's being put forth between put forth in front of the security council right now so there are all sorts of forms of intervention intervention has been happening and it's mean happening since before these protests even began ok if i go back to you david what do you think the outcome will be what. kind of syria i mean i mean everyone i don't think anyone will shed a tear on this program to see the assad family go no one ok it's more about a process what do you think the end game is i mean and i said facetiously you know what kind of jeffersonian democracy what kind of country do you thi

brotherhood to true to run the concrete that is the new plot for the arab region and then the united states will do deals with them as it is done in the past and you say china and russia are in a very strong negotiating position now however. foreign minister lavrov visits to syria recently seems to have yielded no results whatsoever well i think that you know if it carries on like this that the. family and clan refused to budge and refused to relinquish their stranglehold on the country sooner or later something disastrous will happen possibly including some form of foreign intervention and then where will they or do they want to end up like do they want to end up like saddam hussein lynched by mobs backed by western troops that is the future that stares the member face there is no other approach let's talk about the sheer complexity of the various forces that seem to be at large in syria at the moment we heard reports that british and cattery forces are operating undercover in syria do you think that could be train it's perfectly possible british and catherine forces were operating

brotherhood sound fairly benign. do you think that christian minorities and other minorities have something to fear from that well i mean there is always within more greater smarminess parties the current we're treating the big can't really offer people what we want which is a decent standard of living which is a social safety net to work then divert attention by targeting minorities the brotherhood is dominant in relation to the copts in egypt and it's not impossible but they're sort of peers in syria will do the same so that is not a good thing at all but you know we have to wait and see if this is what the majority of the people want then unfortunately it will happen soon or late. thank you very much thank. you british style. markets. find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines. kaiser reports on our. he is easy to easy. easy easy easy easy easy. easy easy easy to. see. well slippery science technology innovation called the list of melamine sp