of the arab spring revolts. but that's it for me the news team for the moment i'll be back with more on those stories and. that's next which today focuses on the potential changes that the upcoming presidential elections in egypt will bring to the region stay with us for that. if you. want. a lonely and welcome to cross talk i'm peter all about countering revolution a little over a year ago the arab awakening started in quickly inspired millions in north africa and the middle east what is the current state of this awakening is democracy in civil society truly on the margins or are the powers of reaction again controlling the narrative and political outcomes. to cross-talk the counter revolution in the middle east i'm joined by v.j. prashad he's in chicopee he's a professor of international studies at trinity college in hartford and author of arab spring libyan winter in los angeles we have a rough day he is an ambassador for the national american iranian council human rights activists and columnist for harvard i

do both sides of the arab league come to a single conclusion at the meeting of the arab league where there was a discussion about a no fly zone only eleven of the twenty two members had come to that meeting and most of them where the seven countries that belong to the g.c.c. in that meeting the saudis and the qataris took the lead in that meeting they did indeed call for a no fly zone and gave cover to the nato countries in the u.n. security council to push for resolution one thousand nine hundred ninety three that was in early march in may at the may meeting of the arab league the qataris put forward a candidate to be the next general secretary he used to be the general secretary of the g.c.c. but at the may meeting the rest of the arab league that had come to basically critique the g.c.c. refused to allow the g.c.c. candidate that is the arab nato candidate to become the head of the arab league and they instead chose to be who is the current head of the arab league again the arab league recently met in baghdad in just this last previous month high after members once again came the

do both sides of the arab league come to a single conclusion at the meeting of the arab league where there was a discussion about a no fly zone only eleven of the twenty two members had come to that meeting and most of them where the seven countries that belong to the g.c.c. in that meeting the saudis and the qataris took the lead in that meeting they did indeed call for a no fly zone and gave cover to the nato countries in the u.n. security council to push for resolution one thousand seven hundred three that was in early march in may at the may meeting of the arab league the qataris put forward a candidate to be the next general secretary he used to be the general secretary of the g.c.c. but at the may meeting the rest of the arab league that had come to basically critique the g.c.c. refused to allow the g.c.c. candidate that is the arab nato candidate to become the head of the arab league and they instead chose to be who is the current head of the arab league again the arab league recently met in baghdad in just this last previous month high after members once again came the g.c.c.

do both sides of the arab league come to a single conclusion at the meeting of the arab league where there was a discussion about a no fly zone only eleven of the twenty two members had come to that meeting and most of them where the seven countries that belong to the g.c.c. in that meeting the saudis and the qataris took the lead in that meeting they did indeed call for a no fly zone and give cover to the nato countries in the u.n. security council to push for resolution one thousand nine hundred ninety three that was in early march in may at the may meeting of the arab league the qataris put forward a candidate to be the next general secretary he used to be the general secretary of the g.c.c. but at the may meeting the rest of the arab league that had come to basically critique the g.c.c. refused to allow the g.c.c. candidate that is the arab nato candidate to become the head of the arab league and they instead chose to be who is the current head of the arab league again the arab league recently met in baghdad in just this last previous month high after members once again came the

he was fascinated with arab history, arab culture, arab food, arab poetry. he learned arabic, thanks to the military for a year, over a year. he studied arabic intensely. and he traveled to the middle east, kuwait, jordan, and plunged into middle eastern culture, and he loved it. he became a special forces support soldier, and he went to afghanistan in 2002, and the first wave of american soldiers to strike back at al qaeda and the taliban after 9/11. and he won a bronze star for digging trips in combat there. in 2005 he was assigned to be the tribal affairs officer for the u.s. military in ramadi, iraq, which was one journalist called it the most fucked up place on earth. reporters scampered through the ruins of ramadi and was a this reminds me of images of hiroshima and trust in installing grid. it had collapsed completely. it was the provincial capital of anbar province and basically the headquarters of the al qaeda college the that were attempting to launch in iraq. ride away three things were obvious to travis patriquin at his college. it to attack al q

the arab world, after all, faces major challenges. after decades of repression and stagnation. with islamist parties poised to enter power for the first time, we have questions. how strong a role will religion play in governing? will individual freedoms be protected? will islamist parties respect the outcome of future elections no matter who wins? on the economic front, what do islamist parties plan to do to reduce unemployment and to spur growth? what sort of business environment do they plan to create? our panels today are designed to address all of these questions and more. they are meant to provide emerging leaders from the region a chance to share their views with an expert audience on how they intend to govern, and at the same time they're meant to provide washington -- western policymakers a chance to listen and also to ask probing questions. we are at carnegie both proud and i think -- to be able to host this event and uniquely equipped to have done so. we operate one of the arab world's leading think tanks, the carnegie middle east center in beirut, with scholars and s

all the arabs have an interest in egypt to get it right. and to get it right you need to create jobs immediately. to create jobs, i don't think you're going to do it the way you put it forward because it's not going to happen. you need 20 million jobs in the next two to three years and you have to create momentum. the only way you're going to do that is infrastructure. you need to build big-time infrastructure in the next two to three years. it's not going to happen easy. i was happy that you guys are here to push u.s. egyptians to push here jobs, jobs, jobs. that's what you want. and this place here, they can help you. they cannot pay you, but there is only one place who can do that for you. we have the money in the gulf each year $200 to $300 billion. we thank the iranian problem and everything else, the oil price today $125, $130. that increase sitting here most of it is going to be treasury bills sitting here doing nothing. that money in the next five years if we have basically $500 billion across the board $100 billion each year coming

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the arab spring. that's how they see it. people rising up to see there's a dictatorship in my country, i want dignity, i want freedom, i want an opportunity opportunity to influence my own government. >> rose: the only secular government in the arab world is the syrian government. every else surrounding syria you have governments run by the muslim brotherhood branches. local, libya, tunisia, egypt, and the gulf states. yemen recently. >> you're familiar with the fact that in the conversation with me president asaid what he worries most about is keeping syria a secular state. >> you see what i'm saying? we are the only secular state in the area. compared to the other arab countries. >> rose: okay. >> charlie, people in the area are about... are out of (inaudible) thousands of years of traditions. we don't need to create the so called minorities and majoritys in our area. we don't believe in that. we believe in building up real countries such as the united states. why would the united states be exclusiv

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"well, look at east jerusalem, "where you have arab neighborhoods "that are exclusively arab neighborhoods, "where israelis don't live in them, "israelis don't go to them. "what is the logic of keeping them under your sovereignty if you accept the concept of separation?" and the israelis found that to be a pretty compelling argument. narrator: so the negotiators drew maps that would split the city along ethnic lines. the bigger problem came with the oldest part of the city, a zone whose importance was all out of proportion to its size. ross: the old city is one square kilometer. within one square kilometer there are at least 57 holy sites-- holy to three separate faiths. the area is so small that if you spring a leak in one quarter, you have to turn off water in the adjacent quarter. so concepts of sovereignty as they apply to the old city are a little bit more complicated. narrator: at the core are the haram al-sharif for the muslims and the temple mount for the jews. these jews are praying in front of their ancient temple whose ruins lay buried behind its western wall. on top of those ru

second, we should maintain clear regional support from the arab world. the arab world itself. nations of the arab world are outraged at the regime and what they are doing to the syrian people. third, we should offer substantial u.s. contributions where we can bring unique resources to bear. fourth, we should have a clear legal basis for our approach there. and that clearly involves close consultations with the congress. and fifth and finally, our approach must keep all options on the table. all options on the table. while recognizing limitations of military force, we must be prepared to take whatever action is required. but let me also say that the situation in syria is different from the one in libya and some very important ways. this is not libya. in libya there was widespread international support, in the arab world and elsewhere and a clear security council authorization for military intervention and nato was authorized to act on that. no such consensus currently exists regarding syria. the opposition is also not as well organized and does not control territory, is what we

there are 20 odd states of arab nature. in the region and probably the only member of the u.n., which is destroyed by other members of the u.n. that's a situation that needs to be taken care of by us. we realize we are living in a tough neighborhood. no mercy for the weak, and no second opportunity for those who cannot defend themselves. we want to be strong, ready to protect ourselves at other -- whatever kind of threat, but at the same time stretching out our hand to make peace with any neighbor who is ready for it. >> ehud barack, pleasure to have you on, sir. >> thank you. >> up next, we go from israel to another hotspot. pakistan. right back. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. so why exactly should that be of any interest to you? well, in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. like the transatlantic cable that connected continents. and the panama canal that made our world a smaller place. w

well, a year ago, that was arab territory." there's still this business of, "sorry, you have to move on." and when you think about the situation of the indigenous peoples of this continent and how, "well, here's your reservation. no, i'm going to move further"- they're still getting pushed around, and that's messing with their mind, ethically. yeah, janet? >> right now what they're doing, i think, is they're refusing construction permits for palestinian houses, so you can't add a room addition on to your house while they're building those new subdivisions for the other people. so they're squeezing them that way- they're saying, "well, we don't care if your son or daughter got married and now you need more- no, you can't build onto your house." >> and as virginia said, it's not having rights, and without rights, you can't obey your obligations, you can't obey your responsibilities, and it puts you in ethical conflict right there. now to get in this extraordinary material we have, hold onto the questions. i want to kind of shift

the arab christians say that there are 3 million arab christians in the united states, and, of course, their number is increasing now with the influx of iraqi christians and displaced people from palestinian christians. and so as the middle east is emptying out of christians, because we have over a million coptic christians from egypt who have emigrated. that not all come to united states, canada, australia, europe, but there is a process of emptying of christians out of the middle is. [inaudible] spent because of the situation, political situation in the middle east. and so as a result, nina, there are questions whether christianity can survive in the middle east. because syria now has some problems and people are worried about the christian population in syria. so after arab spring in egypt, what you have is fear among copts, so anyone, any other western countries, just try to get out of egypt. and, of course, in iraq as a consequence of our liberation of iraq, what you have is attacks on some christians, so they have emigrated. >> professor haddad, is there such a thing as a muslim

why are we only seeing that domino effect happening in the arab world among the arab speaking people? we have seen the inspiration, we've seen, you know, occupy a wall street, the arab spring saying something about inspired and enacting in their way about a macromigration but not of the revolution. that is for many if someone asked me why do you mean the arab revolution but even when you came back of course people have the local preoccupations and so on and so forth, but then something quite regional white thereof like the arab revolution why is that? i'm not lying to take long, just a couple titles about that. the arab consciousness as many of you know was developed in the postcolonial era with a commonality of language and grammar. they don't share the same language, they share the same political grammar if you will and was liberated from colonialism or less at the same time and developed a common political grammar and persistence to colonialism and more or less the same political grammar in terms of this trial and so forth something of a common political language and collective con

all the arabs have an interest in egypt to get it right. and to get it right you need to create jobs immediately. to create jobs, i don't think you're going to do it the way you put it forward because it's not going to happen. you need 20 million jobs in the next two to three years and you have to create pem. the only way you're going to do that is infrastructure. you need to build big-time infrastructure in the next two to three years. it's not going to be easy. i was happy that you guys are here to push u.s. egyptians to push here jobs, jobs, jobs. that's what you want. and this place here, they can help you. they can't pay you but there is only one place who can do that for you. we have the money in the gulf each year 200 to $300 billion. we thank the iranian problem and everything else, the oil price today $125, $130. that increase sitting here most of it is going to be treasury bills sitting here doing nothing. that money in the next five years if we have basically $500 billion across the board $100 billion each year coming through for

arab spring i think i i said this all of the countries engaged in the arab spring have an enormous problem with religion because they need religion to be in the box, it cannot be the government, the revolution, and that's hard. our tradition found that difficult. henry the 8th, it was out of the box. >> mr. norcross went on to say about throwing out payne wants to throw the baby without the bath water. he does that but he does that because he believes in trying to establish a utopian society. >> i meant to do that, excuse me, i meant to answer payne. payne might love the arab spring. >> but burke goes on to say when you do throw out tradition, tyranny comes. >> and payne would say, didn't come to us. >> that's exactly right. >> and if you -- but payne would go a step further. if you do believe on the inherent rights granted by god to man, and discoverable through nature, that that won't happen. but that's the issue. >> it's a leap. >> you had a question. >> i found it interesting that when you mentioned that burke advocated progress because today, when we hear the term progress, progressiv

the arab spring. that's how they see it. people rising up to see there's a dictatorship in my country, i want dignity, i want freedom, i want an opportunity opportunity to influence my own government. >> rose: the only secular governmenin the arab world is the syrian government. every else surrounding syria you have governments run by the muslim brotherhood branches. local, libya, tunisia, egypt, and the gulf states. yemen recently. >> you're familiar with the fact that in the conversation with me president asaid what he worries most about is keeping syria a secular state. >> you see what i'm saying? we are the only secular state in the area. compared to the other arab countries. >> rose: okay. >> charlie people in the aea are about.. are out of (inaudible) thousands of years of traditions. we don't need to create the so called minorities and majoritys in our area. we don't believe in that. we believe in building up real countries such as the united states. why would the united states be exclusively a

people talked about arab spring and someone said, this isn't arab spring. his is an arab awakening and we're going to have spring, fall, winter, summer, ups, downs. it's going to take a long time, but at least we can say that freedom and democracy are beginning to be on the march in the middle east, and that's a very good thing. >> thanks. for dennis, it appeared at times from the outside like the obama administration was caught by surprise by the initial advent of the arab spring, i don't mean that in an accusatory way. i think all of us were caught by surprise. can you reflect from your time there on the inside how this played out within the obama administration? what do you think the administration got right? what do you think they maybe got wrong in responding to these events in realtime? >> well, first, i think you're right about the fact that everybody was caught by surprise. the truth is that nobody predicted what would happen, and i, tell you a little story, because it tends to validate this point. in the summer of 2010, the president signed out a d

the day long conference on the arab uprisings. they will focus next on writing a new constitution with a panel featuring three lawmakers from jordan, tunisia, from egypt, tunisia and libya. live coverage on c-span2. >> critical and essential to the reconstruction process in the three countries that are represented up here. we're moving from university seminar rooms to hard street politics and that's going to be something, implications of that one thing i hope we'll focus on here. the more general note i want to point out something that i heard this morning. what i heard this morning from representatives of the four movements that were up here was sort of a tremendous sense of excitement and responsibility and a real interest in essentially getting to work and to taking the programs that they have been developing often in opposition, sometimes even in prison and actually applying them to government in operation. so i want to build on that in this session and essentially take a very practical look. we have had very good general over

why are we only seeing that domino effect happening in the arab world among the arab speaking people? we have seen the inspiration, we've seen, you know, occupy a wall street, the arab spring saying something about inspired and enacting in their way about a macromigration but not of the revolution. that is for many if someone asked me why do you mean the arab revolution but even when you came back of course people have the local preoccupations and so on and so forth, but then something quite regional white thereof like the arab revolution why is that? i'm not lying to take long, just a couple titles about that. the arab consciousness as many of you know was developed in the postcolonial era with a commonality of language and grammar. they don't share the same language, they share the same political grammar if you will and was liberated from colonialism or less at the same time and developed a common political grammar and persistence to colonialism and more or less the same political grammar in terms of this trial and so forth something of a common political language and collective con

country we should speak arabic. even songs in kurdish were all forbidden but nowadays it all has changed it's not only syria where kurds felt pressured and turkey iraq and iran where the majority of about fourteen million kurds now leave their thorny cheesehead long seen them as a threat to national security especially after they embrace guerrilla warfare to achieve the creation of a sovereign kurdish state and in syria these days it seems this goal has been realized at least for now about a month ago kurds living in aleppo opened their own version of a city hall here in the portraits of july on the face of the kurdish independence struggle hangs where you would usually expect a picture of the president. of the kurds there with the government nor with the opposition we stand alone the syrian state has bigger problems so we're taking charge of our areas and tried to govern ourselves for the time being syrian kurds claim that self governance and equal rights are all they want some say and autonomy within syria similar

three thirty pm on sunday afternoon here in moscow a time for yachts and headlights now western and arab supporters of the syrian revolution a meeting in turkey to press the assad regime with some of the members pushing for further militarization of the conflict. like moment between leaders may. seize us republican hold swoop with the volley of and see russia. by moscow as quote cold war hollywood cliche. riots and protests spread across spain as the government announces a massive cuts unparalleled since the dictatorship of general from. a series of protests and demonstrations that swept across the middle east and north africa last year went down in history as the arab spring and it's one season that will not be easily forgotten. back at the events that reshaped the world. he was fast asleep but his face was glowing from the inside i didn't kiss him there was something strange about the situation up until morning undisturbed and he left . and was around two o'clock on the super seventeen us and my cousin muhammad boars easy target she's goods to the marketplace. it was friday so she had

nevertheless, after- thanks to our good arab guide, we were able to get in. we couldn't do any video taping in terms of interviews, but we were able to get just a vision of the beauty. these are like, you know, the seven wonders of the world, how beautiful these are. so let me quickly go to the roll-in at dome of the rock, and then we'll see a traditional muslim family. >> there is perhaps no better way to visualize the relationship between the mythic, ritual, and doctrinal dimensions than a visit to islam's third most holy shrine, located on the temple mount in jerusalem. according to the grand mythic saga in islam, this is the rock where mohammed, after a whirlwind night journey to jerusalem, ascended into the seventh heaven. a feature that first attracts the attention of visitors to the islamic world is the minaret- the high palace from which the muezzin calls the faithful to prayer five times a day. inside the mosque, the austerity and majesty of islam and its god allah are strikingly evident. unlike other faiths, the islamic tendency in decoration is to

came here following events that sparked the arab spring. these days he's employed at the local vessels it's unqualified. work and doesn't pay well he used to work as a barber in the past but hasn't managed to find a job in his former profession you know what about it many new i will see either way is a paradise but in reality you have to be were away from morning until night for a pittance here you drag out a miserable existence. relations between two museums and locals are very strange the terms to new zealand neighborhood has exploded since their spring illegal migrants periodic lee rounded up. some time ago police arrested me in hospital no less can you imagine that. because you're an illegal immigrant yes i had no papers on me. the small town with a population of fifty thousand is now divided into two parts to museums live on the outskirts locals are concentrated in the center the two communities rarely interact . more parallel worlds and parallel realities to museums on one hand and we old timers on the other they live in isolation and

we expect will wish people in this and some arab states to simply seems to be all groups responsible for the bloodshed in syria now just over the weekend seventeen nations gathered together it's a group that's referred to as the friends of syria they gathered for a meeting and reaffirmed their support for the opposition groups they also recognized the syrian national. council as the legitimate representatives of the syrian people now a lover of said that this only undermines the peace process that is trying to be implemented in syria and also said that it this group known as the friends of syria cannot replace the un security council and it is only the un security council that can really make a decision as to whether mr kofi annan peace plan is moving in the right direction or not. where to put not i will to further discuss the different approaches for setting the year long conflict in syria i'm now going to live from the west by the shape of that he's the director of the international studies program at trinity college so kofi annan says damascus has agreed to april the tense to sta

so let me put this one in arabic. [ speaking arabic ] [ speaking arabic ] >> translator: why isn't there a response as a party. and to the people and the country. >> right back there. >> my name is ann. i'm also a student here in washington, international relations. and i have a question for the representative of tunisia. you said you would go along with human rights treaties as long as they confirm with the islamic identity of tunisia. i think you gave examples of for tur, for example, you think both of those say kind of the same thing. and i think you said it was the parliament that decides. but from your point of view, could you give me examples of human rights treaties or specific law that don't go along with an arabic-islamic identity? >> let's go up here. go ahead. from here. yeah. >> i'm with nbc television. my question is for osama al-saghir. you talked about women being represented in parliament, but there is genuine fear that tunisia, which has the most progressive record in the entire arab world when it comes to family law and women, that this law could be reversed. can you as

week for the tragedy of sports hero lucian in tunisia and other countries it was the start of the arab spring. unlike most of the population of the bustling city of color such a move but are can afford to stay in bed longer. the doors of his barber shop open at ten am. but often his first customers don't arrive until noon. mubarak treasures these morning alice is no relation to the post president but he spends his time checking up on the latest political news. politics is far more popular than football in egypt these days. i have a kind of a lesson this is been the best year of my life there is freedom in the country and i can say anything i like to anyone we didn't have such freedom in the past but this freedom is free for all you don't need to pay for it there hasn't been a better time for me and my job since the revolution. seventy three dead and more than a hundred. inclusion in. the future that morning all victories of the. lives went very very wrong. in the first affair breach in two thousand and twelve the local team in the egyptian city of port saeed hosted a lossy football clu

second, we should maintain clear regional support from the arab world. the arab world itself. nations of the arab world are outraged at the regime and what they are doing to the syrian people. third, we should offer substantial u.s. contributions where we can bring unique resources to bear. fourth, we should have a clear legal basis for our approach there. and that clearly involves close consultations with the congress. and fifth and finally, our approach must keep all options on the table. all options on the table. while recognizing limitations of military force, we must be prepared to take whatever action is required. but let me also say that the situation in syria is different from the one in libya. in some very important ways, this is not libya. in libya, there was widespread international support, in the arab world and elsewhere and a clear security consult authorization for military intervention. and nato was authorized to act on that. no such consensus currently exists regarding syria. the opposition is also not as well organized and does not control territory, what we

western and arab supporters of the syrian revolution meeting turkey to press the assad regime with some of the members pushing for further militarization of the conflict. michael moment between leaders made bit of an obama sees us republican hawks swoop with a volley of anti russia rhetoric slammed by moscow as a cold war hollywood cliche. and anti austerity riots and protests break out across spain as the government announces massive new cuts paralleled since that a computer chip general. ten am in moscow i met treasure bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news here on our team calls for more arms to the syrian rebels growing louder with saudi arabia saying supplying weapons is a duty this is one of the major opposition groups appealed to syria's neighboring states to allow the transit their request comes ahead of the seventy nation friends of syria meeting in turkey which as r.t. sara further reports could prove a stern test for the host nation. taiki the heart of the activity at the moment is it prepares the play has to the friends the syria meeting the country

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this common nation provides islamic, arabs, and liberals. this is an element that means that we have ended the dictatorship. we have also drafted a new constitution. now we formed six constituent committees -- a committee for freedoms and rights, and the committee for the legislative principles, finances, and a committee to stop thinking about -- we work on the conciliation measurements. we seek that this constitution presents all tunisians and all the people all of the revolution in tunisia. [inaudible] -- to expand and care for a consensus among the people by all parties, particularly from another movement we have the majority. it is a portion of representation of the size of different parties represented. the parties differ greatly, so we therefor want to build on the very basic things in the constitution. that is the islamic state in tunisia. to make sure that it needs the needs of all parties. islam and [inaudible] would be the main foundations. the other thing is to guarantee individual freedoms in the discussion about the type of regi

you mentioned the issue of arab israeli relations. this is a matter for concern here in washington based on the muslim brotherhood's position. my question to you is if you were in government how would you deal with the peace treaty with israel, the general jordan israeli relations and how would you interact with the american led peace process, do we have a reason to be concerned? >>. >> translator: start with the question. we believe that it's a sort of enrichment for our society. and perhaps it's one of the most distinctive characteristics of american society. we believe that the problem or the jordanian palestinian problem in jordan is just an illusion to hinder the reform process and it's not a real problem. the islamic movement is the biggest component socially and political that strikes a balance between the palestinians and jordanians fl jordan. and perhaps most other political parties are polarized towards one particular group. there are parties in which there's a jordanian majority or palestinian majority. we believe that this

arab chamber of commerce organized a forum bringing together u.s. ambassadors to arab countries. in this portion the focus is the economies of saudi arabia, qatar and kuwait. it's just under an hour. >> i would like to reconvene our forum at this time. as you know, we are still on our tight schedule with one hour remaining on our second panel. the same procedures would pertain to questions from the floor so please begin sending them up as the panelists give their opening remarks. >> moderating our second panel is the honorable allen larsen whose biography you have in the event booklet. i'm sure all of you in the room and certainly we at the national u.s.-arab chamber remember his days in economics and his many years in the aba bureau where he was a champion for u.s. trade and international fair treatment for u.s. companies. so it's a particular pleasure to call on ambassador larson to moderate this panel. >> thank you very much, good afternoon everyone. we're looking forward very much to this panel. we're going to be considering a set of challenges that perhaps paradoxically are

western and arab support. revolution a meeting in turkey to pressure the assad regime with some of the members pushing for further militarization of the conflict. a hot mike moment between leaders and obama sees us republican holds sway with a volley of anti russia rhetoric. by moscow as cold war hollywood cliche. riots and protests are breaking last spring the government pushes through a wave of cuts. this is the weekly on r.t. with the top stories of the week. the head of syria's national council has called on the friends of syria group members to provide support for the rebels fighting the army inside the country the summit is being held for the second time and it's aimed at putting more pressure on the regime and bolstering the opposition . further reports from the meeting in istanbul. well the conference has gotten underway here in istanbul we had the turkish prime minister giving the aping address now in that he said that the country doesn't interfere with any other country's internal policies but he sai

country we should speak arabic. even songs in kurdish were all forbidden but nowadays it all has changed it's not only syria where kurds felt pressured and turkey iraq and iran where the majority of about fourteen million kurds now leave their thought and she's had long seen them as a threat to national security especially after they embraced guerrilla warfare to achieve the creation of a sovereign kurdish state and in syria these days it seems this goal has been realized at least for now about a month ago kurds living in aleppo opened their own version of a city hall here in the portraits of july on the face of the kurdish independence struggle hangs where you would usually expect a picture of the president. of the kurds there with the government nor with the opposition we stand alone the syrian state has bigger problems so we're taking charge of our areas and tried to govern ourselves for the time being syrian kurds claim that self governance and equal rights are all they want some say and autonomy within syria si

the arabs decided to be partners for the west in human civilization. the situation in jordan is very similar to what's happening in morocco, but a little unique on its own. and the common factor is that both monarchies do not have blood on their hands, and this is the main common factor and this is why both regimes decided to institute reform. among -- and in jordan in particular there's the problem of corruption, which exceeds the gmp. and jordan has high levels of education, which are very similar to western nations, but we have a budget deficit that exceeds 65% of total gmp, and there's also unemployment and poverty, which exceeds 20% of the labor force, and the population. certainly there are positive aspects in favor of the regime in jordan, but over the last ten years, several of these achievements were destroyed and reform in jordan started not just with the arab spring, but there were previous years in which the muslim brotherhood took part in the political process, and it had also very difficult experiences as the first and foremost which is t

country we should speak arabic. even songs in kurdish were all forbidden but nowadays it all has changed it's not only syria where kurds felt pressured and turkey iraq and iran where the majority of about fourteen million kurds now leave their thought and she's had long seen them as a threat to national security especially after they embraced guerrilla warfare to achieve the creation of a sovereign kurdish state and in syria these days it seems these goal has been realized at least for now about a month ago kurds living in aleppo opened their own version of a city hall here in the portraits of. the face of the kurdish independence struggle hangs where you would usually expect a picture of the president but we're not. there with the government nor with the opposition we stand alone the syrian state has bigger problems so we're taking charge of our areas and tried to govern ourselves for the time being syrian kurds claim that self governance and equal rights are all they want some say and autonomy within syria similar

arab spring i think i said this all of the countries engaged in the arab spring have an enormous problem with religion because they need religion to be in the box, it cannot be the government, the revolution, and that's hard. our tradition found that difficult. henry the 8th, it was out of the box. >> mr. norcross went on to say about throwing out payne wants to throw the baby without the bath water. he does that but he does that because he believes in trying to establish a utopian society. >> i meant to do that, excuse me, i meant to answer payne. payne might love the arab spring. >> but burke goes on to say when you do throw out tradition, tyranny comes. >> and payne would say, didn't come to us. >> that's exactly right. >> and if you -- but payne would go a step further. if you do believe on the inherent rights granted by god to man, and discoverable through nature, that that won't happen. but that's the issue. >> it's a leap. >> you had a question. >> i found it interesting that when you mentioned that burke advocated progress because today, when we hear the term progress, progressiv

out of their agenda in the open israel would have to fly over arab countries. and the it has done so before and it can be done without their consent or with. covertly consent we could get assistance or landing rights from countries like i don't believe saudi arabia would do it but the united arab emirates might do that. just remember that the distance from the united arab emirates to on all the iran is as far as from israel maybe even longer so. this kind of a landing rights would be helpful only in case of attacking targets or in thousand iran another. convert a mike to be. might be but again it's problematic. might be given by oh by jove which is on the north side of the rain and border they have no good relations with israel trouble is that to get from israel to observers and you have to overfly turkey and at the moment i don't see with the current relations between israel and turkey i don't see the turks giving any need for any aid if we look across the border at syria why is serious so important for western nations could it be that it's the last obstacle b