kennedy, it had cherished bobby kennedy. both had been assassinated. richard nixon was located by the press. the bureaucracy was against him, built up during the new saturday, great deal, fair deal and predominantly democratic. for the first time since zachary taylor, both houses of the congress were against the united states. and as i said, the media loatheed richard nixon. a lot of them did. and others did not like richard nixon. here was the final problem. you go down the east coast, go to the boston globe, providence journal, hartford current, new york times, baltimore sun, philadelphia inquirer, washington post, anti nixon all of them. three networks. two-thirds of the american people depended on the network news of those three networks as their primary source of news and information about the president of the united states. all were hostile to richard nixon. thus, the impairive of nixon to communicate over, through and around this filter, which many of us saw as distorted in order to communicate his ideas and keep the country united behind him. h

theory. >> the other conspiracy theory, about the as anation of bobby kennedy, nina rhodes-hughes was a few feet away from rfk and says there was a second shooter. >>> joseph kony has a viral campaign, and u.s. forces are joining on the search through pachadi pachadiles. >>> and "toxic shallow and celebrity obsessed" and we'll tell you what our guest does when "starting point" begins in ten minutes or so. >> really? >> yes, shallow. we earn more cash back for the things we buy most. 1% cash back everywhere, every time.

the homepage features a picture of bobby kennedy. that's pretty union. another page shows f.d.r. the purpose of the website is to attack unions and demonize their participation in politics. issa encourages workers to blow the whistle on union political spending. darrell issa wants you to think the website is all about freedom. really it's all about issa's desire to eliminate the voice of working men and women in the workplace and from the political ar arena. joining me tonight is the president of the communication workers of america. i'm sure you're aware of this. your thoughts. this is tactic we've never seen before. they're going right to the worker to let them tell their story about how poor life is in the union family. >> they're not going to the workers i see and hear from every day. workers that are fed up with the policies of this congress. workers that are fed up with the destruction of bargaining rights in the public and private sectors across this country. also, as you pointed out he takes franklin roosevelt, the first president that said what i would do is join the uni

. >> rose: what was the threat that he made to bobby kennedy and jack kennedy? >> well, he didn't threaten them. he didn't blackmail them. he convinced both of them that martin luther king was a communist tool. and that's why bobby kennedy said-- . >> rose: they believed it. >> yes, they did. that is why bobby kennedy signed the order authorize him to bug martin luther king. >> rose: did they fear he had material on them and relationships that if, in fact, he made it public they would be destroyed. >> they knew perfectly well that j. edgar hoover had a tape and transcript of young john kennedy in the navy in 1942 having sexual intercourse with a suspected nazi spy. >> rose: a woman older than he was at the time. >> inga arvad. she had been hitler's publicist at the berlin olympics. they knew he had that because hoover told his good friend joe kennedy, jack and bobby's father. >> rose: they were friends. >> they were friends. they were allies. >> rose: what did you think of the movie about hoover. >> not some of, huh? wince think that it's founded on a false prem

the homepage features a picture of bobby kennedy. that's pretty union. another page shows f.d.r. the purpose of the website is to attack unions and demonize their participation in politics. issa encourages workers to blow the whistle on union political spending. darrell issa wants you to think the website is all about freedom. really it's all about issa's desire to eliminate the voice of working men and women in the workplace and from the political aren arena. joining me tonight is the president of the communication workers of america. i'm sure you're aware of this. your thoughts. this is tactic we've never seen before. they're going right to the worker to let them tell their story about how poor life is in the union family. >> they're not going to the workers i see and hear from every day. workers that are fed up with the policies of this congress. workers that are fed up with the destruction of bargaining rights in the public and private sectors across this country. also, as you pointed out he takes franklin roosevelt, the first president that said what i would do is join the u

the home page features a picture of bobby kennedy. that's pretty union. another page shows fdr. that's really union. the purpose of the website is to attack unions and demonize their participation in politics. issa encourages workers to blow the whistle on union political spending. darrell issa wants you to think the website is all about freedom. really it's all about issa's desire to eliminate the voice of working men and women in the workplace and from the political arena. joining me tonight is larry cohen, president of the communication workers of america. larry, i'm sure you're aware of this. your thoughts. this is tactic we've never seen before. they're going right to the workers trying to let them tell their story about how poor life is in the union family. >> first of all, they're not going to the workers i see and hear from every day. workers that are fed up with the policies of this congress. workers that are fed up with the destruction of bargaining rights in the public and private sectors across this country. also, as you pointed out he takes franklin roosevelt, the f

to win the south and offers him the vice presidency at the convention, and bobby kennedy trys to undo it. >> bobby ken do came out three separate times to ask lyndon johnson to withdraw from the ticket. >> without success. >> i reached the conclusion, it would be the best judgment of the convention to nominate senator lyndon johnson for office of the vice president. >> so help you god. >> so help me god. >> reporter: l.b.j. does help win the white house. but as vice president, johnson is treated with disdain by the whole administration. >> he was always so sad looking that they called it a hanged door look. >> it's a long texas trades. so short and hesitant now. he realized that he had really been put in a position where he didn't matter. >> these are files that relate to this book, and the interviews. >> he keeps notes about that and thousands of other things filed away in his meticulously organized office known as the bunker. >> when i am interviewing somebody, i take the notes in one of these notebooks, and then that night, i type them up. >> reporter: he drafts and redrafts his ma

we lost bobby kennedy in '68, martin luther king, kennedy in 5063. not a lot changed in their training culture. in the '70s a bunch of agents out in l.a. started training better, how to react when they are shot. how to react in a split second, and they would adopt this kind of training to improve how quickly they react so the secret service agents like jerry parr and tim mccarthy almost react instantaneously to the gunfire and look what happened to george wallace in 502, they were debacles. kennedy is shot in the neck and the driver keeps driving straight. in evasive maneuvers attale all. not trained to react without thinking. that's right. they were prepared. let them walk out like this. inside meanwhile they checked everyone that went n.had bomb-sniffing dogs that checked the speech before he went in and checked the names of everyone who came in contact with the president and let an sc from th president wide out in the open and the guy has a gun so there's an incongrewity, inrec seibel, where the secret service is prepared for the worst, but they d

bobby kennedy had just been assassinated. the cities had been in flames as a result of the riots and protests that came out of that. whether i arrived to find an apartment to live in, i just came down for a day and went back to wisconsin. they had troops stationed on the steps of the capitol. elements of the 82nd airborne had been moved into washington to maintain order during that period of time. 12 people had been killed in rioting here that summer. and, you know, that was a difficult time. we -- what we went through, a civil war, the bloodiest conflict in our history. over 600,000 dead. and it was oftentimes we look at it and a time like now and say, gee, it's really gotten -- gotten not bad and nasty out there. they don't remember the struggle we had, example, end slavery and build freedom and democracy as we know it today. so some of those struggles have been very, very tough and very difficult. what we go through today, we got a lot of people talking as though this is the worst of all times. but it's not. we've got a me

we lost bobby kennedy in 1968, martin luther king, kennedy in '63. not a lot changed in the training culture. in the '70s a bunch of agents in l.a. trained better how to react when they're shot, how to react in a split second, and they adopted this kind of training to improve how quickly they react, so the secret service agents react almost instantaneously to the gunfire, if you look at kennedy and george wallace, they were debacles. kennedy's shot in the neck and the driver just keeps driving straight. no evasive maneuvers at all. they weren't trained to act without thinking. that's interesting. they were prepared. but yet they walk out like this. inside meanwhile they checked everybody who went in. they had bomb-sniffing dogs check the speech before they went in. they checked the names of everyone that came in contact with the president. and yet they let an unscreened rope line 15 feet from the president out in the open and the guy has a gun. and so there's this incongruity, something going on with the secret service where they are prepared for the

we lost bobby kennedy in '68, martin luther king, kennedy in '63. not a lot changed in their training culture. in the '70s a bunch of agents out in l.a. started training better, how to react when they are shot. how to react in a split second, and they would adopt this kind of training to improve how quickly they react so the secret service agents like jerry parr and tim mccarthy almost react instantaneously to the gunfire and look what happened to george wallace in 502, they were debacles. kennedy is shot in the neck and the driver keeps driving straight. in evasive maneuvers. not trained to react without thinking. that's right. they were prepared. let them walk out like this. inside meanwhile they checked everyone that went in. had bomb-sniffing dogs that checked the speech before he went in and checked the names of everyone who came in contact with the president and let an unscreened rope line 15 feet from the president wide out in the open and the guy has a gun so there's an incongruity irreconcilable, where the secret service is prepared for the

bobby kennedy or said there were some other people in our culture here it's just going to be the gun violence and so you know as the most powerful nation on the planet the greatest nation in some people's minds most in a great nation. clearly something is wrong if you can she had people should each other all of south americans sit side above any of us civil liberties and freedom have suffered in the name of national security new gun laws up some ulterior mystery made it easier for americans to arm themselves leaving the land of liberty locked and loaded up or die of artsy me or. coming out of the program firing out new fear as north korea journalists see the final preparations for its my. discussed rocket launch media in the south sounds the alarm over an alleged new nuclear test. and spanish football clubs top the death contagion lead we take a look at how teams are struggling under the weight of the liabilities in times of severe economic crisis. it's been a week since a deadly plane crash into russia claimed more than thirty lives and left twelve people in hospital our current ara

kennedy, and martin luther king jr. in '63. and then traininging as started to react better in a split second. they adopt this training to see how quickly they react. so the agents react almost instannously to the gun fire, but if you see what happened to george wallace, and jack kennedy, it is a debacle. no evasive maneuvers at all. they were not trained to be trained without thinking. and meanwhile, they walked outside and checked everybody, and they had a bomb sniffing dog before the speech, and names of everybody in contest with the president. and they left a rope line outside of the president and the guy has a gun. so it is incongruity or something going on where they are prepared for the worst, but they don't try to prevent the worst. that is something that after it is done, you have bunkers like this, and when the president visits the hotel that doesn't have a garage he can pull into or this kind of thing, what they do is they build a tent. and now the agent who saved reagan's life, when they started to install m

bobby kennedy were set to become but the people in our culture here if you take the gun violence and so you know that's the most powerful nation on the planet richest nation that has some people's minds the most democratic nation by this clearly something if you think she had people shooting each other oh and sells americans since nine eleven u.s. civil liberties and freedom pops up for it in the name of national security new gun laws up some alternate history made it easier for americans to arm themselves reading the land of liberty locked and loaded or die of heart see me or. we're coming to you live from the heart of moscow and still to come later in the program football in freefall. just as. the spanish of football teams face a whole new ball game because the sport feels the pinch alongside the country's east works. the standoff over the north korean launch continues yang showed off its fully prepared rocket to foreign journalists but the u.s. and south korea are still not convinced it's for peaceful purposes. it's been a week since the deadly plane crash in russia's siberia left

kennedy herself there were some other people in our culture here i think you do the gun violence murder and so you know as the most powerful nation on the planet the purchase nation is some people's minds most democratic nation by this clearly something before you can she have people should each other all of south americans since nine eleven u.s. civil liberties and freedom have suffered in the name of national security while new gun laws up some ulterior nicely made it easier for americans to arm themselves leaving the land of liberty locked and loaded up or die of artsy new york. coming up later this hour football in freefall. is built just as. by their football teams face a whole new game is the sport feels the pinch alongside the country's edu debt. but first it's been a week since the deadly plane crash in russia siberia left more than thirty dead technical failure listed as the probable cause of the incident with a crew reportedly choosing not to di ice the plane before takeoff or he's carrying taraji looks into the problems facing russia's future in flight. captain sergei ansen d

kennedy herself there were some. people in our culture you know if you do become violent and so you know as the most powerful nation on the planet the british nation in some people's minds most democratic nation. clearly something that you can see people should each other and shows americans since nine eleven u.s. civil liberties and freedom have suffered in the name of national security new gun laws have some old seen as we made it easier for americans to arm themselves reading the land of liberty locked and loaded or die of heart see me are. still to come for you a bit later in this program but have a football in free fall. so if it. those. shirts financial football teams for you saw a whole new ballgame as the sport feels the pinch alongside the country's e.u. death words. it's been a week since the deadly plane crash in russia's siberia left over thirty people dead technical failure has been listed as a probable cause of the incident with the crew reportedly true zing not to do ice the plane before takeoff to its

kennedy or said it was about a million people in our country are going to do to gun violence and so you know as the most powerful nation on the planet the british nation that is some people's minds the most democratic nation by this clearly something that you can see that people should each other oh i'm so sorry since nine eleven the u.s. civil liberties and freedom have suffered in the name of national security while new gun laws up some ulterior nicely made it easier for americans to arm themselves reading the land of liberty locked and loaded up or die of heart see me or. i will talk more about the implications of being allowed to stand your ground mark walters host of armed american radio and co-author of lessons from arms america. alicia lawrie hi mark nice to see you. critics of the of this law say that it encourages this kind of vigilante style of justice in this case he was a police officer you know he was the self-proclaimed neighborhood watchman so does this law that give people what it does is give people the right to shoot and kill people. i don't think any responses we

kennedy were set for some of the people in our country here to do the gun violence and so you know it's the most powerful nation on the planet the british nation it is some people's minds most democratic nation. clearly something before you can see that people should each other oh and so as americans since i don't live in the us civil liberties and freedom have suffered in the name of national security new gun laws up some alternate history made it easier for americans to arm themselves leaving the land of liberty locked and loaded up or die of heart see we are still to come this hour football in freefall. it's a busy news day it is not just those it's. about a football team in space or whole new ball game as the sport fuels the pinch alongside the country's new yet. but first it's been a week since the deadly plane crash in russia's siberia left more than thirty dead technical failures were listed as a probable cause of the incident with a crew reportedly choosing not to d.r.s. the wings before takeoff or his current era she looks of the problems facing russia's aviation future captain

we lost bobby kennedy in '68, martin luther king, not a lot changed in their training culture. in the '70s, a bunch of agents in l.a. started training better, how to react in i split second. they adopt this kind of training to improve how quickly they react so the secret service agents like jerry parr react almost instantly to the gunfire. if you look at what happened to kennedy and george wallace in '72, they were debacles. kennedy was shot and the drive kept driving straight. they weren't trained to act without thinking. they let him walk outside like this. inside they checked everybody who went in. at the this bomb-sniffing dogs check the speech before they went in, checked the names of everyone who came in contact with the president. yet let an unscreened rope line and the guy has a gun. there's irreconcilable, something going on with the secret service where they're prepared for the worst but don't try to prevent the worst. that's something after it's done, have you bunkers like that. when the president visits a hotel that doesn't have a garage he can pull into it or this

bobby kennedy had just been assassinated. the cities had been in flames as a result of the riots and protests that came out of that. when i arrived in washington to find an apartment to live in that summer, i came down for a day and then went back to wisconsin, they had troops stationed on the steps of the capitol. elements of the 82nd airborne had been moved into washington to maintain order during that period of time. 12 people had been killed in rioting here that summer. and, you know, that was a difficult time. we -- what we went through, a civil war, the bloodiest conflict in our history. over 600,000 dead. and it was -- oftentimes we look at it at a time like now and say, gee, it's really gotten -- gotten not bad and nasty out there and they don't remember the struggle that we had, for example, to end slavery and to build freedom and democracy as we know it today.

kennedy were said it was somebody. that you know if you're going to do the gun violence and so you know it's the most powerful nation in the richest nation in some people's minds most immigration. clearly something that you can see people should each other. since nine eleven u.s. civil liberties and freedom suffered in the name of national security new gun laws have some of the mystery made it easier for americans to arm themselves reading the land of liberty locked and loaded. artsy me or. have a thought more about the implications of being allowed to stand your ground i was joined by mark walters host of armed american radio and co-author of lessons from america from armed america here's his response to critics claims that the long courage has got a nurse it's a shoo in kill people and certain situations take a listen. i don't think any responses we armed citizen would take kindly to you we all want to be safe we all have a god given natural right to defend our lives in fact our body has a response known as fight or

. >> he said read my book and see that bobby kennedy said he wanted to hang me for treason. he is referring to bobby kennedy, but apparently he is the biggest threat to america, not ted nugent. >> yeah, ted nugent will probably literally shoot somebody at some point. >> yeah. >> the other thing too is that's fine you can complain about it but complain about them equally. if you are saying that's worth writing down and saying this is how awful the left is if you are going to be honest at all, go of course this is way worse, you can be hung for treason -- and he said -- he said if he is elected next year. i'll be dead or in jail. he is never going to get to shoot the president. so he is talking about random -- >> this is the furor i caused on larry king one time. i we all could agree that rush limbaugh should be hung for treason. [ screaming ] >> yes, it was a joke. because i really think rush limbaugh is going to be executed for treason. >> now know what is going to happen when barack obama gets reelected? nothing. ted nugent is going to go back to what he is doing now, which

. >> as bobby kennedy once said, you hang a lantern on your problem. it's very smart to let the people know. thank you, senator richard blumenthal from joining us from the senate judiciary committee and david knack mara of "the washington post." >>> let me finish with this presidential election, a clear choice, you see what the romney's saying about the wealthy deserving to be congratulated and obama talking about having to make it through college with students loans. you're watching "hardball." >>> let me finish tonight with this. i just figured out what this election's about. let's discount all the stupid stuff. from now until election day, both guys will make gaffes. by that, i mean they will say things on their minds they quickly will wish they hadn't said. i know the feeling. but who are they? that's something we can figure out from some very clear statements they just made. statements about their values, about how they judge other people, how they wish to be judged themselves. i'm talking about their accomplishments on this earth and how they val

. >> as bobby kennedy once said, you hang a lantern on your problem. it's very smart to let the people know. thank you, senator richard blumenthal from joining us from the senate judiciary committee and david knack mara of "the washington post." >>> let me finish with this presidential election, a clear choice, you see what the romney's saying about the wealthy deserving to be congratulated and obama talking about having to make it through college with students loans. you're watching "hardball." hi, i just switched jobs, and i want to roll over my old 401(k) into a fidelity ira. man: okay, no problem. it's easy to get started; i can help you with the paperwork. um...this green line just appeared on my floor. yeah, that's fidelity helping you reach your financial goals. could you hold on a second? it's your money. roll over your old 401(k) into a fidelity ira and take control of your personal economy. this is going to be helpful. call or come in today. fidelity investments. turn here. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with busin

bobby kennedy had just been assassinated. the cities had been in flames as a result of riots and protests. when i came to washington to find an apartment to live in the summer, i came down for a day and came back to wisconsin. they had troops stationed on the steps of the capital. elements of the 82nd airborne had been moved into washington to maintain order during that time span. 12 people had been killed in rioting gear that summer. that was a difficult time. we were not sure if it was a civil war, the bloodiest conflict in our history, over 600,000 dead. and it was -- oftentimes we look at it, and at a time like now, and we say, gee, it has gone bad and nasty out there, and they do not remember the struggle we had, for december, to end slavery and to build freedom and democracy as we know it today. so some of those struggles were very, very tough and very difficult. what we go through today, we have a lot of people talking as though this is the worst of all times, but it is not. we have got a media operation now that tends

bobby kennedy had just been assassinated. the cities had been in flames as a result of riots and protests. when i came to washington to find an apartment to live in the summer, i came down for a day and came back to wisconsin. they had troops stationed on the steps of the capital. elements of the 82nd airborne had been moved into washington to maintain order during that time span. 12 people had been killed in rioting gear that summer. that was a difficult time. we were not sure if it was a civil war, the bloodiest conflict in our history, over 600,000 dead. and it was -- oftentimes we look at it, and at a time like now, and we say, gee, it has gone bad and nasty out there, and they do not remember the struggle we had, for december, to end slavery and to build freedom and democracy as we know it today. so some of those struggles were very, very tough and very difficult. what we go through today, we have a lot of people talking as though this is the worst of all times, but it is not. we have got a media operation now that tends

: bobby kennedy was against a botched crew. he did not want a crew that happened to unravel. for them to be taken out and die. he airily said that it is not like in south america or a rock where we can control. he thought the whole thing would go south. when you hear that, you think that they would reconsider the two. i think lodge, as he said, having been the existential running mate of nixon, he was complementary in his own right. he set things right the way he wanted to do it. c-span: how long had he been there when the coup took place? >> just a few weeks. jfk ruefully noted that once as a reporter on a trip. c-span: whose idea was it to make him ambassador of vietnam from the united states? >> guest: it was john f. kennedy's idea to have him be the ambassador to reply on 10. c-span: would john f. kennedy have gotten out of vietnam and he had been reelected? >> strangely enough, my file there thought that rfk and his behavior, even though he was on the campaign and saying we were going to get out of vietnam, it was a moral

we will talk to the woman who claims there was a second shooter in the assassination of bobby kennedy. [ female announcer ] introducing coffee-mate natural bliss. made with only milk... cream... a touch of sugar... and pure natural flavors. coffee-mate natural bliss. from nestle. add your flavor naturally. >>> welcome back. let's get right to headlines. christine romans has a look at that. >>> john edwards trial this morning, week two of that trial set to begin shortly. much the way week one ended with young on the witness stand, the wife of former edwards aide andrew young. she told the court friday her husband did everything for the disgraced former senator, including yard work and buying christmas gifts for his kids. she testified it almost destroyed her marriage, his devotion to edwards. edwards faces six counts of campaign finance violations accused of using campaign money for hush money and could get 30 years behind bars if he is convicted. >>> a new blog will keep you updated on george zimmerman's defense. attorney said he set up the website to keep people updated. zimmerman is

you know. >> bobby kennedy. >> franklin roosevelt, you know, teddy roosevelt. >> they identified. >> there is something. there is something here. when obama gets under his skin romney doesn't respond like, i am proud of what i have done. >> that's what a wealthy man says. he says, i don't know why they are picking on my dad. i inherited all of this money. yes do anything, you know. i was born with a silver spoon. why are you picking on my dad? the problem with that is i hope we do during the course of this campaign spend some time. if he wants us to look at his dad, i am proud of that. i would consider voting for his father against barack obama, his father marched in the civil rights movement. his father signed michigan's public employee protections. his father was a critic of the vietnam war. his father did the biggest expansion of housing, public housing in american history under in connectionon. >> that's the thing that sealed the deal with me with george romney and not mitt romney was a picture of him with the supreme i saw. that was like wow. this is a republican that i could ac

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. >> i came of political age when guys like lbj and bobby kennedy were around. they were the type of democrat i can certainly gravitate to who remembered their friends and they kind of ignored their enemies and they drove america forward. and that's the type of democrats we need to see again. you know, i look at the trade deals. we pass in america. there's another bad one coming out. the trans pacific partnership. it is nafta on steroids. it is going to further erode america's ability to compete in manufacturing and in services. and why are we having the debate here today on this? giving the condition of our country in both republicans and democrats should be lock step to say whoa, we're not going into any partnership that will further erode this country's values. we're going to go fight for it. and we need our democratic friends to start standing up and speaking out against this. >> last thing we need is another bad trade deal. >> bill: paul is calling from fairland oklahoma. hi paul. >> caller: hi. i'm talking about the republicans, like mitt romney. he's push

if you want to see how you can be abused, read my book "the greatest hopes" and see what bobby kennedy, you know, he had me for treason and, so, if you want to see some real threats, you can see them. i don't know what they're talking about. >> do you think, hold on one second there, senator. do you think that ted nugent when he said those comments, which i think were very vague, he did go on to talk about some, the administration in general. not certain individuals. it's certainly violent language at the very least. go ahead, senator, i'm sorry. >> yes, he did. again, he was talking about himself. to me, when i first heard that, i thought this guy is so offended by what the administration is doing. if we're going to have to have four more years of barack obama, he will either be dead or in jail. >> well, senator,ed admittedly e comment was hard to understand what he was getting at but one interpretation said he was going to somehow attack the president and that's the reason he would wind up in jail or dead. the secret service is taking it serious enough to go after it. i'm puzzled by

they called roosevelt and bobby kennedy a class traitor after his bother died. when you devote your capital clearly to making your own kind more powerful -- >> another the expense of other americans. >> uh-huh. steve go ahead. >> my wife is actually a dressage champion, but not like in the -- uber-wealthy that you are talk about. and it's a lot of fun. this is the footwork that the horses would do to navigate a melee. so all of the dancing that you see are skills that would be used so they wouldn't run into other horses or get knocked over in battle. >> okay. >> that's sort of where the actual art form comes from. and i suspect that jim being a history geek would love that kind of information as well. >> steven there's like a lower class, middle class dressage -- >> lower cast. [ laughter ] >> what you are describing is actually -- it's a really good metaphor for america. because these super wealthy sponsors that spend ridiculous amounts on their horses treat their help like dirt -- >> not all of them. >> there is a c-celebrity dressage circuit is what you are s