the administration was left with no alternative but to go ahead with a trial at guantanamo bay. today, the white house acknowledged that close in guantanamo bay will not be easy. >> there have been obstacles in achieving that. he remains committed to doing that. we have to ensure that khalid sheikh mohammed and others who are accused of these crimes are brought to justice. the procedure is under way to make sure that happens. >> the men could be executed. they will be called in 30 days to hear the charges. getting justice for a tax has proved complicated and controversial. it will not be much longer before the trial begins. jonathan blake, washington patty >> where washington correspondent says -- washington. >> our washington correspondents as the obama administration will not welcome the trial. >> the bush administration introduced this trial. it has been a big headache for the obama administration. they have done everything to end of this procedure. they were met with such fierce opposition, partly because of the cost of transferring the suspects, and also because americans d

bay in the case of. the shiri he's alleged to have orchestrated the bombing of the u.s.s. cole in october of two thousand and so this is going to be the first death penalty trial at get most of the government is already trying to feel it in secrecy which is why a first amendment attorney is currently on his way to speak on behalf of a number of media organizations to have the first ever testimony by captive about cia interrogations be made open to the press so is there hope yet that torture will be publicly addressed well joining me to discuss it is marcy wheeler blogger and t. we'll marcy thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess before we get into what's going on in guantanamo bay right now coming up you wrote about harold koh and his flip flopping as well and so i can see just real quick give me your you know your take on that situation the fact that he claims he never changed his mind . well it's interesting to me about it was the profound it very clear that he was always sure he was right so

there was a report that a quran had been flushed down a toilet at guantanamo bay. there were riots in three countries and people were killed. dead. gone. now, a lie can race around the world in 30 seconds. while the truth is i think mark twain said the truth is still pulling its boots on, and what do you have to do? you have to find out did that happen? we can't lie. terrorists can lie. they have media committees, terrorists do. they sit down and plan media things so they can have events that advantage them in the world by using the free press and the media. we can't do that. we don't. what happened? well, people died. weeks later "newsweek" magazine that carried the report that the quran had been flushed down the toilet at guantanamo found out the truth and the truth was it hadn't. it had not happened. it did not exist. they ran a little thing in "newsweek" this said, oh, to the accident tent our article was inaccurate, we're sorry. well, sorry, they're dead. i mean, the basic lead in the news business is if it bleeds, it leads. general casey, he tried to get posi

said that it is ready to resume the trial of guantanamo bay prisoners charged with the attacks on to november 11. among them is the legend mastermind of 9/11. he halted the previous military trial saying that he wanted them prosecuted in a civilian ourt, -- court, but congress halted that. americans assumed they had been charged already. >> they have been under george w. bush's administration. the suspects were charged, the plan was to go to military trial. when president obama wanted to close guantanamo bay, he wanted them to face trial in civilian court. the administration was left with no option but to press ahead with the military trial. >> probably the most famous of this group, ksm, and because of the controversy surrounding his treatment. how does that go into effect? >> he was water boarded 183 times, and he alleges he was subject to sustain torture. evidence by water boarding and would have been admissible because it was not tortured. but president obama has banned the practice in described it as torture, so it will be difficult for military lawyers to put forward that evide

it was planned to be a military trial at guantanamo bay where they were being held. he announced these charges would be withdrawn and the suspects would go on trial in a civilian court in new york. that plan turned out to be so unworkable it was scrapped. >> and of course, kalid sheik mohammed, the most famous. he had been subjected to water boarding. it became a famous case. >> ca records show he was water boarded -- cia records show he was water boarded 200 times. had the bush administration been in power, that evidence would be admissible. water boarding was not defined as torture them. president obama ruled it torture, so it would be very difficult in a military tribunal under his command, as commander- in-chief, to bring that forward in court. that is one of many issues that will have to be worked out. >> ok, thank you for coming in. kalid sheik mohammed maybe behind bars, but the quest to catch the rest of those on the most wanted terrorist list is ongoing. at the top of the list -- a man wanted for the 2008 mumbai attacks. the u.s. has offered a bounty. orla g

bay in the case of. on the shiri he's alleged to have orchestrated the bombing of the u.s.s. cole in october of two thousand and so this is going to be the first death penalty trial at how the government is already trying to fill it in secrecy which is why a first amendment attorney is currently on his way to guantanamo to speak on behalf of a number of media organizations to have the first ever testimony by captive about cia interrogations be made open to the press so is there hope yet that torture will be publicly addressed will join me to discuss it as marcy wheeler blogger and we'll marcy thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess before we get into what's going on in kuantan about bay right now or coming up you wrote about harold koh and his foot plopping as well and so i can see just real quick give me your take on that situation the fact that he claims he never changed his mind. what was interesting to me about it was the profound it very clear that he was always sure he was right so when h

bay in the case of. on the shiri he's alleged to have orchestrated the bombing of the u.s.s. cole and october of two thousand and so this is going to be the first death penalty trial at gitmo and the government is already trying to feel it in secrecy which is why a first amendment attorney is currently on his way to guantanamo to speak on behalf of a number of media organizations to have the first ever testimony by captive about cia interrogations be made open to the press so is their hope yes but torture will be publicly addressed will join me to discuss it as marcy wheeler blogger at mt we'll marcy thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess before we get into what's going on in guantanamo bay right now coming up you wrote about harold koh and his foot plopping as well and so i guess just real quick give me your you know your take on that situation the fact that he claims he never changed his mind. what was interesting to me about it was the profound it very clear that he was always sure he was r

>> yes. >> has the fbi interviewed the population of guantanamo bay. >> yes. >> have we gathered good information over time from that population without using waterboarding? >> yes. >> don't you agree that the best way to interrogate someone is not to torture them but to use traditional military law enforcement techniques? >> that's somewhat of a loaded question. >> if you say -- >> i would say we follow our rules -- >> you don't torture people in the fbi, do you? >> pardon? >> you don't torture people. >> no, sir. >> and you get good information. >> yes. >> i totally agree. what i would suggest to the committee is the questions about see confess trags, if this is not a wake upcall for the congress, what would be? you just heard the fbi director i think is doing a marvelous job and all his agents tell us if we do what we're planning to do, we're going to devastate one of the front line agencies in the war on terror. ten years ago, what was the fbi's budget when it came to national security issues? what percentage of your budget? before 9/11. >> i would say one-fifth of the budget back

there was a report that a koran had been flushed down a toilet at guantanamo bay. there were riots in three countries and people were killed. dead. gone. now, a lie can race around the world in 30 seconds. while the truth is i think mark twain said the truth is still pulling its boots on, and what do you have to do? you have to find out did that happen? we can't lie. terrorists can lie. they have media committees, terrorists do. they sit down and plan media things so they can have events that advantage them in the world by using the free press and the media. we can't do that. we don't. what happened? well, people died. weeks later "newsweek" magazine that carried the report that the koran had been flushed down the toilet at guantanamo found out the truth and the truth was it hadn't. it had not happened. it did not exist. "news week" that said, oh, to the extent our article was an accident, we're sorry. well, sorry, they're dead. i mean, the basic lead in the news business is if it bleeds, it leads. general casey, he tried to get positive news stories in iraq, and t

so thank you for that support and to all those at guantanamo bay doing their job, you're going a great service. particularly the defense counsels i. think that's right and i think people should understand that when i sent people down for military commission treatment there, the revised commissions that exist, as i said in my speech at northwestern, many of the elements of due process that we consider vital to the american system. i think we have great defense lawyers down there. the military system doesn't get the credit it deserves for the fair way it deals with people and under the direction of mark martin a person i've known for some time, i think we'll be proud of the work they do. >> thank you very much, mr. attorney general. we're now going to turn to senator feinstein before senator pryor leaves, thank you for mentioning the cyber exercise and all who participated. next week we'll hear from the fbi and do an open hearing and then a classified hearing. you'll get -- this would be an opportunity to ask many of your cyber questions and go into the level of detail. i think the commi

bay for the nearly picked the detainees that have been deemed completely untried of all but just the ones that were tortured but the government still believes it actually has a case against them the truth is that our national security is damaged more because of torture because of guantanamo bay because of our counterterrorism policies have brought including drone strikes night raids you name it you don't make more friends by occupying countries killing civilians and then preaching about democracy and the rule of law both simultaneously locking people up indefinitely after you've flown them to other countries to have them water boarded and who knows what else and secret cia prisons and it did not take a genius to figure all that out but like i said some people out there they see nothing wrong with torture they think it was worth it and i think that's easy to say we don't have to actually know anything about it when you can be shielded from the ugly truth and so if we really want to reflect as a country if we want to look inward and learn from our action see where we want to go next i

promises promises it seems like president obama was full of them as a senator but from guantanamo bay to the wars for the protection of whistleblowers he can't seem to stick to his word will show you how the world war one area espionage act is being used against truth seekers and stuff spies. and last year it might have been the arab spring but occupy wall street might be the movement to watch in the coming weeks with the other warming up protesters are once again coming out in large numbers will find out what's in store for the so-called ninety nine percent spring. tuesday april tenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. . well the case has become doe and throughout the world and all spent three decades on death row he's now spending like behind bars without the possibility of parole he was accused of shooting a philadelphia police officer back in one thousand nine hundred one but questions still remain over how evidence in this case was handled and so this day he maintains his innocence and supporters believe he was mistakenly convicted because he wa

out there paying attention probably know that the military commission process of guantanamo bay is currently going full steam ahead just the other week there were reports on the pretrial hearings of all dover hearing on the sherry he's the alleged architect of the u.s.s. cole bombing in the year two thousand there are first amendment attorney representing media organizations argued for more transparency and for the testimony of on the cherie who was water boarded to be opened by the judge chose not to rule on a decision there and all that was settled was that machinery could be unshackled when in the courtroom and he could need with his attorneys through mesh divider but that doesn't mean that the calls for transparency have stuff where you see there still might be more options the pentagon recently announced that to lead sheikh mohammad the so proclaimed the mastermind of nine eleven and four others will soon be tried in a military commission and get no where the penalty could be death and so now the attorney for one of the accused conspirators all the of dual as easily his attorney has fil

there paying attention probably know that the military commission process of guantanamo bay is currently going full steam ahead just the other week there were reports on the pretrial hearings of all dover hearing on the shiri he's the alleged architect of the u.s.s. cole bombing in the year two thousand of their of first amendment attorney representing media organizations argued for more transparency and for the testimony on the shiri who was water boarded to be opened by the judge chose not to rule on a decision there and all that was settled was that machinery could be unshackled when in the courtroom and he could need with his attorneys divider but that doesn't mean that the calls for transparency have stopped and you see there still might be more options the pentagon recently announced that the lead sheikh mohammed the self-proclaimed mastermind of nine eleven and four others will soon be tried in a military commission and get no where the penalty could be death and so now the attorney of one of the accused conspirators ali abdul as easily his attorney has filed a motion to challenge

. >> he's the only american citizen being held in guantanamo bay. he's from both marconi. i'm adam may. and ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >> five days of first warning weather today and tomorrow 60 degrees are you we have that done tomorrow until the evening. clothes will fit in ahead of a storm system on tuesday. 74 degrees on tuesday. in the 70s and 80s for wednesday, thursday, and friday. >> military officials say the relationship between the u.s. and key middle east ally is still afraid on the eve of a major anniversary. u.s. officials have not been able to reach an agreement with pakistan to reopen an important supply route. closed since november after an strike killed pakistani troops. the white house turned on the demand for an apology saying the country is not doing enough to stop militants like al qaeda. it's been almost a year since osama bin laden was killed in a hideout in pakistan. >>> he's the local face of terror. a former baltimore county man who plotted with al qaeda to kill americans. >> wjz investigates very of the boy next door turned into the deadliest form of ho

which i think by november, all these other flip-flopping and ancillary issues from guantanamo bay and warrantless wiretaps won't matter. what will matter is whether the president came up with an economic plan and passed a budget to get something happening on the economy. >> and we welcome that debate because mitt romney's record, as governor of massachusetts, his record at bain capital is also fair game. ask the american people if they want to take a bypass on this election, they're ready to have this conversation. i think we have been talking about it. it's just that the republicans won't come to the table because as you well know from the cnn debate, 10-1. ten spending cuts to $1 in tax revenue. the republicans said "no." this is a debate that -- this is what the election is about. not about personalities. it's about what your plan is for the future. if we talk plans i think president obama will win. >> what do you men about the mexican drug cartel thing? >> the operation "fast and furious" there was a report today that -- >> okay, you're referring to fast and furious? >> yeah. i th

he's the only american citizen held in guantanamo bay and is from baltimore county. i'm adam may. an in-depth look at ,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> at 6:22, a local face of terror. a baltimore county resident who plotted with al-qaida to kill americans. this morning, wjz investigates and adam may looks at how the boy next door turn into the deadliest form of homegrown terrorist. >> reporter: good morning. the face of terror graduated from a maryland high school and then joined al-qaida but now he's gonna help turn in other terrorists. the quiet suburban street of the catonsville neighborhood suddenly ground zero in a 2003 terror investigation. >> i knocked on my door. >> outside my house quick noticed unmarked cars and said he was from the fbi. >> reporter: agents searched for information about majid khan. >> yeah. that guy used to live across the street from me. >> reporter: the 1999 graduate of owings mills high school is now the only american in guantanamo bay, an interrogation camp in cuba. what do you remember about him? >> a nice kid. >> he rode his bike. he played a little ball. >> repo

barack obama has the national security issues from when he campaigned to close guantanamo bay and it's still opened. they are both going bob held accountable and that's what's going to make this campaign so found for both sides. >> romney only mentioned guns one time but mentioned president obama's name at least 25 times. is it safe to say romney's team is basically on the offensive now? >> absolutely not. mitt romney is running as fast as he possibly can from his previous record. not only on guns, but just about, you name the topic and i can show you clips as you just showed us. mitt romney prooechgs support for planed parenthood. no longer supports planned parenthood. support for civil unions. no longer supports civil unions. the problem is that mitt romney is running for president and he wants to be all things to all team and president obama in hits re-election campaign makes it clear to voters when it comes to gun ownership he supports the second amendment and he'll continue to enforce the constitutional amendment but for mitt romney, put it this way, we don't know where he'll stan

which i think by november, all these other flip-flopping and ancillary issues from guantanamo bay and warrantless wiretaps won't matter. what will matter is whether the president came up with an economic plan and passed a budget to get something happening on the economy. >> and we welcome that debate because mitt romney's record, as governor of massachusetts, his record at bain capital is also fair game. ask the american people if they want to take what i kyle a bypass on this election, they're ready to have this conversation. i think we have been talking about it. it's just that the republicans won't come to the table because as you well know from the cnn debate, 10-1. ten spending cuts to $1 in tax revenue. the republicans said "no." this is a debate that -- this is what the election is about. not about personalities. it's about what your plan is for the future. if we talk plans i think president obama will win. >> what do you men about the mexican drug cartel thing? >> the operation "fast and furious" there was a report today that -- >> okay, you're referring to fast and furious? >

five years later guantanamo bay remains open. yesterday the pentagon announced it would hold a military trial for khalid sheikh mohammed and the four suspected of working with him. that will likely take place at guantanamo. joining us is hina shamsi. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk a little about the military tribunals which we've discussed with a certain amount of wariness. we know the administration is trying to reform them and you have thoughts how effective that reform is. >> i think that when we're considering the guantanamo military commissions we have to take a step back and look at how and why they were established. they weren't established to provide truth or justice, they were established to provide show trials, to permit the use of evidence obtained through torture and at the same time to hide the fact that torture has happened. their legitimacy was undermined right from the beginning and that shameful legacy continues to taint them today an undermines their legitimacy irrevocably. >> y

guantanamo bay go to the supreme court potentially and this is one of the great advances. one of bush's problems was that he resisted judicial review and that was one of the many reasons why people didn't trust what he was doing. >> jon: are you worried about general civil liberties and the sort of window that has been pushed about data mining, the government's ability to just collect data from its citizens, this supreme court case about strip certains for even minor infractions, things that we are just tending to accept and the slippery slope we go down when we do that? >> of course i worry about it. i worry about the size of the government, the size of the national security bureaucracy, the size of the executive branch and the amazing scary powers it has and nothing in my book suggests we shouldn't be vigilant in questioning and criticizing but i think there are all sorts of constraints and check herbs and watchers looking at the president to make sure what he's doing is lawful and useful. >> jon: believe me, i was ready to open this up and be right "we're all months awa

in the past, he has worked for the freedom prisoners at guantanamo bay. he is shia. this story that he is some sort of sectarian or an advocate for violence is completely false. >> quickly, do you think the government cares if he dies? what will be the repercussions if he does? please be brief. >> there are probably some within the government that do, but the position is they do not care. the said he wants people to continue on in is peaceful protest if he dies, and hopefully people will lead by his example. >> china's ruling communist party is struggling because of the death of a british businessman. his wife is being investigated. there are claims she had him murdered. some are coming forward. we have this report from china. >> it is a question that will not go away -- how did neil hayward by here at the lucky hotel in one of the secluded villa as last september? china's communist party has promised the rule of law will prevail. as more dark secrets emerge, will that happen? the party has said the 41-year- old british businessman may have been murdered. his once po

bay. he announced we will bring him to new york which will show the world we're dedicated to upholding the law and we're not afraid. apparently the military commission act was not among the laws that needed upholding at that time. when congress held acceded to t a press conference that was remarkable for his insistence that he was right all along but going along with ignorant legislators. the president of the islamic society of north america named as an unindicted coconspiracy in the largest terrorist case ever tried in this country was invited to the white house to attend the dinner at the end of 2010. you may recall that event as the occasion where the president announced support for the construction of the mosque near ground zero in new york. the mosque that was to be named cordoba house. another muslim brotherhood affiliated organization, care, also named as an unindicted coconspiracy was until 2008 even in the administration in which i served a target of outreach by the fbi and has sy

announced they will charge five men currently held at guantanamo bay for terrorism, hijacking and murder in a military court. they include halid sheikh mohammed. the obama administration wanted to move their trial to civilian court but the decision was reversed after widespread opposition. the men will be tried together and could face the death penalty if convicted. >>> a massive cleanup in north texas today. the dallas-ft. worth area trying to recover after a tornado ripped through several towns yesterday. thousands of people are without power and at least 800 homes have been damaged or destroyed. >> we have to make sure that safety is the first order. they have no power, limited utilities. there's not a lot that you can do at this point in time. >> so far, more than 20 people have been injured. >>> still to come at 5:00 a. neighborhood transformed the plan to redevelop an iconic part of the bay area. the plans to make the giants an even more of a destination spot. >>> and changing the standards of care nationwide. new recommendations for a common slew of medical tests. >>> behind the s

bay. the united states government, you'll remember, first charged the men back in 2008, but the case was suspended after congress blocked the administration's attempt to move the trial to a federal court here in new york city. all five suspects could get the death penalty, if convicted at guantanamo. the case puts an emotional and politically controversial issue back into the fall campaign. president obama has received high marks for the mission that killed osama bin laden, but he also faces continued criticism for not shutting down guantanamo as he promised during his first presidential campaign. >>> in new orleans, five former police officers are heading to prison for their roles in the shooting deaths and the cover-up of two unarmed men in the aftermath of hurricane katrina. the officers killed the victims and wounded four others less than a week after the storm devastated that city. the officers planted a gun and falsified reports to make the shootings appear justified. in reading the

naval base on cuba, guantanamo bay. the court could sentence the defendants to death if they're found guilty. among the five is khalid shaikh mohammed, the self-proclaimed ringleader of the attacks on the world trade center in new york in the pentagon in washington. more than 3000 people died in those attacks. police in france have carried out another round of rate on suspected islamist, arresting 10 people in a number of cities, including marseilles. special forces conducted raids in a northern town. french media are reporting that the operation that targeted people who have visited or were planning trips to afghanistan and pakistan allegedly for jihadist training. france is taking a tough line against radical islam following last month's shootings by an al qaeda-inspired gunman. time for some business. record low interest rates are here to stay in the eurozone. holding them at 1% ahead of the ecb warned of downside risks to the economy. >> he says it will take time to see the full impact of the operations to help the

naval base on cuba, guantanamo bay. the court could sentence the defendants to death if they're found guilty. among the five is khalid shaikh mohammed, the self-proclaimed ringleader of the attacks on the world trade center in new york in the pentagon in washington. more than 3000 people died in those attacks. police in france have carried out another round of rate on suspected islamist, arresting 10 people in a number of cities, including marseilles. special forces conducted raids in a northern town. french media are reporting that the operation that targeted people who have visited or were planning trips to afghanistan and pakistan allegedly for jihadist training. france is taking a tough line against radical islam following last month's shootings by an al qaeda-inspired gunman. time for some business. record low interest rates are here to stay in the eurozone. holding them at 1% ahead of the ecb warned of downside risks to the economy. >> he says it will take time to see the full impact of the operations to help the

bay will become more important as traffic through the crossroad increases. when i assume the watch as the chief of naval operations i established three key tenants. they're the clee direction for the navy direction. war fighting is first, operate forward, and be ready. war fighting first, that means the navy has to be ready to fight and prevail today while building the ability to win tomorrow. this is our primary mission and all our efforts must be grounded in this fundamental responsibility. iran's recent provocative rhetoric highlights the need for us to have forward deployed war fighting capability and in our 2013 budget submission, we directed funding to weapons, systems, and tactical training that can be fielded to the fleet particularly in this area. this includes demonstrators and prototypes that can improve the force's capability. operate forward, that means we'll provide the nation an offshore option to det deter influence, and win in an era of uncertainty. our 2013 budget submission gives several issues, including placing destroyers in spain and co

they will be rained in court at guantanamo bay on may 5th. the trial will also be held at that facility. charms include terrorism, hijacking aircraft and murder in violation of the law of war. if they're convicted, they face the death penalty. >>> the death of osama bin laden left an open spot on the fbi's top 10 most wanted list but now that spot has been filled with a teacher who once worked in d.c. he has been on the run since tweet. he taught third grade. agents say another teacher found explicit post owes of at least one boy "school camera that eric toft was using. >> there are few things that typically make these folks stop and those things are discovery or arrest and incarceration or death. that is what makes these guys stop. there is no on-off switch that somebody like him is going to turn off. >> reporter: the fbi believes he has multiple victims. he hasn't been seen since the day he lost his job. agents believe he has left the d.c. area. >>> the university of ash arc fired the head football coach over a scandal involving a woman hal

i think we need guantanamo bay. i think we need the ability to hold people that are suspected terrorists that have associations with al qaeda and other networks that deal with al qaeda, and i don't want us to give us our capability to protect our country from another attack from one of these entities that may not even be an organization yet. so i know you're wrestling with it. we are, too. but i'm going to come down on the side of protecting our people with an asymmetric war that we have. that's what we're given to deal with, and we've got to do it in a way that protects america. thank you. >> thank you very much, director mueller. colleagues, as director mueller has said, 60% of the fbi request is in the area of national security. many of these are really sensitive issues that the fbi's engaged in, and we need to make sure we get our resources right while we're working on very complex policies. therefore, this is why we would move to a closed session. if there are no further question, the senate may submit conditio

they will be in a court at guantanamo antawn bay to hear the charges. it has proved controversial at every turn. it will be much longer before the trial against them begins. "bbc news," washington. >> while khalid sheikh mohammed may be behind bars, the fight to capture the rest of those on america's most wanted terrorist list is ondid go. the man at the top of the list is saeed, the man thought to be behind the mumbai attacks. he staged a youth conference from where our correspondent reports. >> on the trail of saeed. we found him opposite this complex, pakistan's army headquarters. he has always been considered close to the military. and just across the road, saeed was the star attraction among hard-line islamists. he says he runs a charity. the u.n. says it is a front for terrorism. now america has put a price on his head because of the mumbai attacks in 2008. washington and delhi believes he was the mastermind. he denied that and today he mocked the $10 million bowden -- bounty. >> i want to say to the state department why do you want to give the mo

bay the slogan is on a pound to defend freedom in iraq there is a prison camp camp liberty. these to me seem to be abuses of the word freedom and i want to know from you do you really think this is a tremendous state that is growing up in the united states is that entirely necessary to combat the rival risk competition the united states has from china from europe or or is this now a self-feeding system it's you know there's the people are the problem people are the problem they're greedy they lie they're deceitful they manipulate up they you know they're egocentric we understand that and people in government i just the same dangerous people with more power so that's why we have the checks and balances and i'm i'm all for you know morse group me and this and that however. we live in a context the united states and israel are under attack from the international left which is very powerful for marlys dictators in south america that some boy seems to get along with. from the islam of fascists. and we live in an age when they have nuclear weapons and chemical and biological i thi

bay detainees or the individuals targeted by the government. you have to turn to the courts. that's the role of the courts, protecting the minority from the winds of the majority. the lovely example you gave on criminal justice issues, the reason why we are having so much success on criminal justice reform -- and we have. just read the newspapers. i can send you the clips. geriatric prisoner mills, mississippi enacting to empty out the principles. new york, california. it's because we filed the lawsuits and because legislatures were forced to take a look at those centered question and now we can resolve it through legislative process. i think often you carry a big stick and sometimes you use it. and you create that political will on issues that are very difficult to convince people on, because they're not very nice people. you know, criminals, terrorist suspects. you force political leaders to take on what are sometimes very difficult issues by force iing m down the road. i think that's often the role. >> very brief. >> very briefly. i guess i

bay the slogan is on a pound to defend freedom in iraq there is a prison camp camp liberty. these to me seem to be abuses of the word freedom and i want to know from you do you really think this is a tremendous state that is growing up in the united states is that entirely necessary to combat the rival risk competition the united states has from china from europe or or is this now a self-feeding system it's you know there's the people are the problem people are the problem the greedy they lie to see people they manipulate up you know their egocentric we understand that and people in government i just the same pains risk people with more power so that's why we have the checks and balances and i'm i'm all for young boys scrutiny and this and that however. we live in a context the united states and israel i'm sure it tact from the international left which is very powerful well of dictators in south america that somebody seems to get along with. from the islam no fascists. and we live in an age when they had nuclear weapons and chemical or biological i think there's going to be

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