when bill and dave ran hp or steve or mark zuckerberg, when you have a founder ceo, they take a level of risk that normal ceo can't take. nonfounder ceo is an employee. >> is there any way a nonfounder ceo can become like a founder ceo? >> it really comes across from the board. the ability for the board to give that ceo founder-like abilities to operate, to take those kinds of risks, support that. what tends to happen is that everybody is so worried about wall street that we tend to focus the decision making process down to the quarterly results versus recognizing and in many cases blow up the compensation package, relook at how you set senior executives to make good long term decisions not meet the short term quarterly objectives. >> can i ask you about a nonfounder ceo that you think is worth emulating? >> i think are there's a couple actually. wendell w imptietz from corning. jeffrey cats zenburg. he has unique approaches to how you manage risk. and when you have to commit $290 million before he sells ticket one. >> i'll have to call it there. phil mckinney's book beyond the obviou

gates or steve jobs or mark zuckerberg. and one of them may be the next sbroop flo entrepreneur may be the next one to turn it into a new industry. that's the promise of america. that's what this country is all about. if these entrepreneurs are willing to keep giving their all, the least washington can do is to help them succeed. i plan to do that now by proudly signing this bill. thank you very much, everybody. [ applause ] >> there you have it. the president in the rose garden. you see right beside him house majority leader eric cantor smiling with the president. a rare sight it seem these days, as the bipartisan bill for small businesses and start-up get better financing is signed by the president. a bipartisan effort. you heard the president saying to create jobs and continue to grow this economy. we wanted to bring you obviously this moment. we want to get back to the story we're following just prior to it which is the development in the trayvon martin investigation. let me bring in criminal defense attorney, john burr

gates or steve jobs or mark zuckerberg. and one of them may be the next entrepreneur to turn a big idea into an entire new industry. that's the promise of america. that's what this country's all about. so if these entrepreneurs are willing to keep giving their all, the least washington can do is to help them succeed. i plan to do that now by proudly signing this bill. thank you very much everybody. [ applause ] >> the president in washington, d.c. with the jobs act. jump start our business start-ups. but while the goal of the jobs act certainly is to promote entrepreneurship and give companies time to breathe and grow, some folks like our own herb greenberg say there may be an unintended consequence from the job act and that could be the increased incident of fraud. let's bring in herb back in englewood cliffs. you wrote about this this morning. others have been out as well. why do you think that this act could help jobs but also help fraud? >> you're rolling back regulations. you're basically becoming less transparent for

if one of you goes on to become the next steve jobs or mark zuckerberg or one of you discovers the next medical breakthrough, think about all of the people whose lives will be changed for the better. we made an investment in you. we'll get a return on the investment. when we guarantee basic security for the elderly or those that are sick, that doesn't make us weak. what makes us weak is when fewer americans can afford to buy the products that businesses are selling, when fewer people are willing to take risks and start their new business because if it doesn't work out, they worry about feeding their families. what drags our economy is when it goes only to a few and the gap between those at the very, very top and everybody else keeps growing wider and wider and wider. in this country, prosperity has never trickled down from the wealthy few. prosperity has always come from the bottom up, from a strong and growing middle class. [cheers and applause ] that's how a generation went to college on the g.i. bill, including my grandfather helped build the most prosperous economy that the world ha

if one of you goes on to become the next steve jobs or mark zuckerberg or one of you discovers the next medical break through, think about all the people whose lives will be changed for the better. we made an investment for you. we'll get a return on the investment. when we guarantee security for the elderly or people out of work, that doesn't make us weak. we're weak when fewer americans can buy the products that businesses are selling. when fewer people are willing to take risks and start the new business because if it doesn't work out, they worry about feeding that are families. what drags our entire economy down is when the benefits of economic growth and productivity only go to the few, which is what has been happens for over a decade now. and the gap between those at the very, very top and everybody else keeps growing wider and wider and wider. in this country, prosperity doesn't trickle down from the top few, it has always come from the bottom up, a grow, strong middle class. that's how a generation who went to college on the gi will, including my grandfather helped build the mos

if one of you goes on to become the next steve jobs or mark zuckerberg or one of you discovers the next medical breakthrough, think about all the people whose lives will be changed for the better. we made an investment in you. we'll get a return on the investment. when we guarantee basic security for the elderly or the sick or those who are actively looking for work, that doesn't make us weak. what makes us weak is when fewer americans can afford to buy the products that businesses are selling. when fewer people are willing to take risks and start their new businesses. if it doesn't work out, they worry about feeding their families. what drags our entire economy down is when the benefits of economic growth and productivity go only to the few. which is what has been happening for over a decade now. and the gap between those at the very, very top and everybody else keeps growing wider and wider and wider and wider. in this country, prosperity has never trickled down from the wealthy few. prosperity has always come from the bottom up. from a strong and growing middle class. that's how a ge

steve jobs or mark zuckerberg. and one of them may be the next entrepreneur to turn a big idea into a new industry. that's the promise of america. that's what this country is all about. so if these entrepreneurs are willing to keep giving their all, the least washington can do is help them succeed. i plan to do that now by proudly signing this bill. thank you very much, everybody. [applause] megyn: there is the headline. the jobs act. we'll have more on foxnews.com. "kelly's court" is back in session. on the docket today brand-new developments in the mcdonald mega millions mess. the maryland lottie -- lottery director saying no one has come forward with the winning ticket. >> since no one has claimed the ticket, since no one has approached us, we would encourage people to look at their tickets very closely, especially if you purchased a ticket from that 7 of eleven in liberty county it's important that people not be mistaken to think the ticket has been claimed only to have the legitimate ticket holder discard thei

or steve jobs or mark zuckerberg and one of them may not next entrepreneur to turn a big idea into an entire new industry. that's the promise of america. that's what this country is all about. if these entrepreneurs are willing to keep giving their all, the least washington can do is help them succeed. i plan to do that now by proudly signing this bill. thank you very much, everybody. [ applause ] >> >> way to go. >> you can hear the chuckles. it is always the best part to count how many pens. i don't know if you were counting with me. i counted 11 pens to round of applause there, the presto officially signing the jobs act into law as he pointed out and again just remind you flanked by a number of members of congress including eric cantor who helped break a log jam at one point in time here and also holmes norton from washington, d.c. and spencer baucus from alabama. we also saw steve caves, the founder of aol and also on the president's job council, so the president is hoping as he mentioned this bill will be a game changer in helping open the pool of potential investors so that the

it's one of you goes on to become the next steve jobs or mark zuckerberg, or when you discover the next medical breakthrough, a think about all the people whose lives will be changed for the better. we made an investment in you and we will get a return on the investment. [applause] when we guarantee basic security for the elderly, the sick, or those actually looking for work, it does not make us week. what makes us week is when cuban-americans can afford to buy the products for businesses themselves, when your people are willing to take risks because it does not work out and they worry about feeding their families. what drags our entire economy down is when the benefits of economic growth and productivity go only to the tube, which is what has been happening for over a decade now, and the gap between those at the very top and everyone else keeps growing wider and wider and wider. in this country, prosperity has never trickled down from the prosperous you. it has always come from the bottom up, up from a strong and growing middle-class. [applause] that is how i generation who went to col

jobs or mark zuckerberg, which i believe you can. but the idea of upward mobility -- >> but who asks the questions? who is saying that you can't be mark zuckerberg? he's only 25. we had all those guys on last week. all those disrupters. all those guys are saying you can be that and no one is saying that you can't. >> the entire generation is moving upwards in the ladder. not just the stars, not just the shoot for the moon approach. and i'm curious where bill comes out on that. >> we have a bit of an educational divide. mark zuckerberg, he left harvard, but he had a good education before he got that. if you think about the last 20 years, i think what's happened is technology has made -- there were very good jobs that paid well that didn't require a college degree. and there's less and less of that now because of changes in technology. you're a charter school guy? >> charters schools can be a option. >> charter schools fail in areas where public schools do not. >> it's more of a pay for performance. >> you see hard it is, randy wine gu

if one of you goes on to become the next steve jobs or mark zuckerberg or one of you discovers the next medical breakthrough, think about all the people whose lives will be changed for the better. we made an investment in new and we will get a return on the investments. [applause] when we guarantee basic security for the elderly or the sec for those looking for work, that does not make a week. what makes this week is when fewer americans can afford to buy the products that businesses are selling. when fewer people are willing to take risks and start their new business because it doesn't work out, they worry about feeding their families. what drags our economy down is when the benefits of economic growth and productivity goal only to the few which is what has been happening for over a decade now. the gap between those of very, very top and everybody else keeps growing wider and wider. in this country, prosperity has never trickled down from the wealthy few. prosperity has always come from the bottom of from a strong and growing middle class. [applause] that is how a generation who went t

it's one of you goes on to become the next steve jobs or mark zuckerberg, or when you discover the next medical breakthrough, a think about all the people whose lives will be changed for the better. we made an investment in you and we will get a return on the investment. [applause] when we guarantee basic security for the elderly, the sick, or those actually looking for work, it does not make us week. what makes us week is when cuban-americans can afford to buy the products for businesses themselves, when your people are willing to take risks because it does not work out and they worry about feeding their families. what drags our entire economy down is when the benefits of economic growth and productivity go only to the tube, which is what has been happening for over a decade now, and the gap between those at the very top and everyone else keeps growing wider and wider and wider. in this country, prosperity has never trickled down from the prosperous you. it has always come from the bottom up, up from a strong and growing middle-class. [applause] that is how i generation who went to col