frontier foundation. and matt mitch let's just talk about what changes after this ruling. sure this is actually one of the number rulings around the country that have said similar things that this is the background you should. know that ground there since about two thousand a. plaintiff's lawyers have been suing. anywhere between twenty five and five thousand people in single lawsuit. accusing them of downloading copyrighted movies and usually other independent films or pornography films and the lawyers who are doing this they really don't care who's doing the infringing they just want to get as many settlements out of this process and then they knew they will usually settle for less than the cost of hiring a lawyer yeah it seems to me there's been a whole business built on attorneys and their assistants kind of trolling the internet looking for people who are infringing who are breaking copyright laws and then what they do is they you know get as many names as possible and file lawsuits and mass i mean w

frontier foundation thanks love. let's talk now about the fight over feist the foreign intelligence surveillance act has gone through a series of changes since first and acted in one nine hundred seventy eight especially after the attacks of nine eleven in two thousand and one some of the more recent changes give the government the authority to electronically ease drop on americans' phone calls and e-mails without a warrant as long as those americans are communicating with someone outside of the united states and that aspect has been challenged by the a.c.l.u. and this week. president obama has said this week rather the supreme court has decided it's going to weigh in president obama though just like president george w. bush before him argues that wiretapping programs may not be challenged in court so the supreme court is going to decide whether or not these legal challenges against vice are in fact legal as well confusing i know so we've got a nice to associate litigation counsel with epic to help us house this all

very important issue to follow because julie samuels stuff attorney with the electronic frontier foundation we talk about what count is up next on our team let's check in with more on mr to see what's on today's agenda lauren hey abby well with elections this weekend in france and greece all eyes are kind of on europe and the eurozone crisis and the e.c.b. the european central bank came out today and announced basically nothing they said they're going to keep rates the same now the interesting thing abbey they did this in barcelona as you know spain has a very high unemployment rate twenty five percent close to that one in four so they did this announcement with stepped up security thousands more police they imposed border controls and they suspended the treaty that allows free travel with other members of the eurozone so yeah i have to wonder what's really going on abbi we're going to get into it though we're going to talk euro zone crisis with an economist in europe constantine gurdjieff so everybody looking to get filled in on the real story is not going to want to miss it looking forwar

frontier foundation. let's talk now about the fight over feis the foreign intelligence surveillance act faisel has gone through a series of changes since it was first an act that in one hundred seventy eight especially after the attacks of nine eleven in two thousand and one some of those more recent changes give the government the authority to electronically ease drop on americans phone calls and e-mails without a warrant as long as americans are communicating with someone outside of the united states now that aspect has been challenged by the a.c.l.u. this week but president obama like president george bush before him argues that wiretapping programs may not be challenged in court this week the supreme court agreed it to decide whether or not these legal challenges against feist are in fact legal it's a little confusing i know which is why amy stefanovic associate litigation counsel with epic joined us early to help hash this all out well the fines and just a little bit odd it has its own kind of proced

frontier foundation it's the end of meaningful prissie for anyone who has personal data stored with u.s. based services. and so would you say that that's why there has been more of a backlash against so. and not necessarily the same to to the same extent. show sopa was a direct attack on american businesses companies like from facebook reddit boing boing all of us agreed that the horrible things wrong with this bill that could hurt us. the problem with cisco is that but because it doesn't directly attack technology services and in fact it makes life easy if the some of them it's been it's taken longer for there to be a grassroots opposition against this but that opposition has come up and as time has gone by i think a lot of sites even sites which have which would benefit from suspend their operations and how they deal with government have come to realize that it's very important to oppose it so it's unfair isn't this corporate backlash against spot like we saw against is there a danger that. although in there could be harmful aspects to it that it could kind of slip under the radar

now tonight we're going to speak with trevor tim from the electronic frontier foundation is going to fill us in on today's hearing on the pfizer amendments act is congress really going to reauthorize this even though we don't know how many americans communications the government is monitoring and despite the fact that americans get it when fighting in court to find out it seems crazy but it looks like the war on terror just might win out against your privacy then we'll speak with joe weisenthal from the business insider when he gets the predictions for tomorrow's jobs numbers we'll talk about one woman who took on citi group and won in court and the story that joe has been trying to get everyone to pay attention to all week long ten year treasury bond yields are at record lows not all of them are here tonight including a dose of happy hour but first take a look with the mainstream media decided to miss. well where shall we start today to be honest i wasn't even going to pick on the mainstream media for this one because the story was surprisingly absent from their morning coverage con

joining us with more analysis is julie samuels staff attorney at the electronic frontier foundation. julie, thank you for joining us. it sounds like this case is far from over. what happens next? >> susie, that's right. this case is far from over. this is one part of the first phase. right now the jury and the court is considering copyright. what oracle claims doin google infringed a program called api. it's not clear if you can have a copyright on that. the court needs to decide if there is a valid copyright. the jury says maybe google infringed and maybe they didn't. >> susie: google's lawyers sayta miss trial and oracle saying they want a share of google's profits. what do you think the judge will say? >> there is a lot of steps left in the process. first a judge has to decide if you can get a copyright on this programming language we're talking about. also the jury punted on this issue, like you said is this a legal fare use. if this is found to be a legal fare use then google doesn't infringe therehere is the issue of patents. that's the next phase. after those two phases if goo

joining us with more analysis is julie samuels staff attorney at the electronic frontier foundation. julie, thank you for joining us. it sounds like this case is far from over. what happens next? >> susie, that's right. this case is far from over. this is one part of the first phase. right now the jury and the court is considering copyright. what oracle claims doin google infringed a program called api. it's not clear if you can have a copyright on that. the court needs to decide if there is a valid copyright. the jury says maybe google infringed and maybe they didn't. >> susie: google's lawyers sayta miss trial and oracle saying they want a share of google's profits. what do you think the judge will say? >> there is a lot of steps left in the process. first a judge has to decide if you can get a copyright on this programming language we're talking about. also the jury punted on this issue, like you said is this a legal fare use. if this is found to be a legal fare use then google doesn't infringe. there there is the issue of patents. that's the next phase. after those two phases if

access now or as well as other organizations like the electronic frontier foundation and cd to the world working together in a coalition to. you know to make sure that the senate continue bills. and that we're continue to work with lawmakers as well as tech companies to make sure that whatever type of cybersecurity legislation that is passed protects users and also want to say that we're also meeting with various government officials as well start companies. in brazil next week for the rio de janeiro human rights technology conference and these types of meetings are going to be really important to make sure that going forward that we can address cyber security threats as well as protecting users right and lastly i just want to ask you let's say you are successful and privacy advocates are successful in preventing this last legislation from moving forward but you know we saw you there was some people say this is kind of like a. two point zero and this is if this is defeated. they can you expect to see more of a push similar piece of legislation to come before congress. yeah i think that y

the electronic frontier foundation has been looking into this for a while they found that the f.a.a. the federal aviation administration has already approved twenty five universities to fly drones in its airspace it also appears some universities have already purchased those drones and the u.s. may be fitting the bill earlier i asked this very question to amy's tapan of it with the electronic privacy information center and take a listen to her answer. it is actually there are grants from the department of defense the department of homeland security that are being used and being given not only to universities but the private companies into law enforcement to encourage them and enable them to purchase drones that they might not have been able to afford on their own in order to experiment to see what they can do with them to provide surveillance and to look into their capabilities and hopefully in the future i think the goal is to get them to buy their own and to proliferate the system the economy i want to for a second look at the bigger picture here i mean it was just a few decades ag

access now or as well as other organizations like the electronic frontier foundation and cd to the world working together in a coalition to. you know to make sure that the senate continue builds. and it will continue to work with lawmakers as well as our companies to make sure that whatever type of cyber security legislation that is passed protects users and also want to say that we're also meeting with various government officials as well as start companies. in brazil next week for the rear vision narrow human rights technology conference and these types of meetings are going to be really important to make sure that going forward we can address cyber security threats as well as protecting users all right and lastly i just want to ask you let's say you are successful and privacy advocates are successful in preventing this last legislation from moving forward but you know we saw you there with some people say this is kind of like a. two point zero and this is if this is defeated and they can you expect to see more of a push similar piece of legislation to come before congress. yeah i thin

frontier foundation e.f.-s. did some digging and found out there's a whole long list of agencies that have already been approved to use unmanned aerial vehicles now we talked about on this show a little bit about how you know a lot of colleges are adding drone technology to their curriculum but i do want to but i had the the expectation and the reason the universities are doing this when you ask them they say they see this as a it's a job growth area and that they want to prepare young people for jobs that are going to be opening up in this industry so that universities are among the early adopters here yes and leave according to the f.a.a. by twenty twenty so less than ten years from now they predict as many as thirty thousand drones will be in use in the united states but i do want to put we're talking about some of these colleges and universities i do want to put a map up showing the sites the f.a.a. acknowledges as a domestic drone authorizations the agency confirmed there are about three hundred active c

frontier foundation has been looking into this and found that the f.a.a. the federal aviation administration has already approved twenty five universities to fly drones in its airspace it also appears that some universities have already purchased drones so is the u.s. footing the bill earlier i asked this very question to him is to panic the electronic privacy information center take a listen. it is actually there are grants from the department of defense to the department of homeland security that are being used and being given not only to universities but to private companies and to law enforcement to encourage them and enable them to purchase drones that they might not have been able to afford on their own in order to experiment to see what they can do with them to provide surveillance and to look into their capabilities and hopefully in the future i think the goal is to get them to buy their own and to proliferate the system economy i want to for a second look at the bigger picture here i mean it was just a few decades ago that we saw you know a flurry

now this is not the electronic frontier foundation has been looking into this and found that the f.c.c. the federal aviation administration has already approved twenty five universities to fly drones in its air space so something is going on here and we want to talk about just what that might be a means to plan of it as part of the national security council team at epic and is here with us now i mean from what i understand some of these universities have already purchased drones and it sounds to me that in many cases the u.s. military is footing the bill it is actually there are grants from the department of defense to the department of homeland security that are being used and being given not only to universities but to private companies and to law enforcement to encourage them and enable them to purchase drones that they might not have been able to afford on their own in order to experiment to see what they can do with them to provide surveillance and to look into their capabilities and hopefully in the future i think the goal is to get them to buy their own and to proliferate the sy

frontier foundation the f.-f. did some digging and found out there's a whole long list of agencies that have already been approved to use unmanned aerial vehicles now we talked about on this show a little bit about how you know a lot of colleges are adding drone technology to their curriculum but i do want to be ok i had the expectation i think the reason the universities are doing this when you ask them they say they see this as a it is a job growth area and that they want to prepare young people for jobs that are going to be opening up in this industry so. that universities are among the early adopters here yeah and leaving according to the f.a.a. by twenty twentieth's less than ten years from now they predict as many as thirty thousand drones will be in use in the united states but i do want to quote we were talking about some of these colleges and universities i do want to put a map up showing the sites the f.a.a. acknowledges as a domestic drone authorizations the agency confirmed there are about three hun

frontier foundation has been looking into this is well they found that the f.a.a. the federal aviation administration has already approved twenty five universities to fly drones in its airspace it also appears some universities have already purchased those drones and so here's a question is the u.s. footing the bill earlier i asked this very question to amy's tapan of it with the electronic privacy information center here is her answer. it is actually there are grants from the department of defense the department of homeland security that are being used and being given not only to universities but the private companies into law enforcement to encourage them and enable them to purchase terms that they might not have been able to afford on their own in order to experiment to see what they can do with them to provide surveillance and to look into their capabilities and hopefully in the future i think the goal is to get them to buy their own and to proliferate the system the economy i want to for a second look at the bigger picture here i mean it was just a few decades

. >> but rebecca of the electronic frontier foundation said using facial recognition to determine who is in a bar and when should cause concern, especially regarding privacy. >> is it sensitive enough to track you from bar to bar. >> she's worried if she stores -- if scene tap stores any of the recognition data, it could be accessed by others. the application is the brainchild of coles harper. he thought it would be useful so people would determine what bar or club to patronize and business owners can determine what attracts certain age groups or people. he said the only information they keep is gender and age. >> it tracks 12 data points as opposed to 36 which is facial recognize, but do we keep it, we do not. >> he makes every effort to assure people their privacy is not at risk. >> i'm coming clean on everything we are doing, whether it's overtechnical or not. >> he said the san francisco launch has been the toughest of the seven cities they operate. originally 25 businesses signed up, but because of some privacy concerns, only 19 remains. he hopes after this launch those concerns

. >> but rebecca of the electronic frontier foundation said using facial recognition to determine who is in a bar and when should cause concern, especially regarding privacy. >> is it sensitive enough to track you from bar to bar. >> she's worried if she stores any data, it could be accessed by others. the application is the brainchild of coles harper. he thought it would be useful so people would determine what bar or club to plate nice and business owners can determine what attracts certain age groups or people. he said the only information they keep is ender and age. >> it tracks 12 data points as opposed to 36 which is facial recognize, but do we keep it, we do not. >> he makes every effort to assure people their privacy is not at risk. >> i'm coming clean on everything we are doing, whether it's overtechnical or not. >> he said the san francisco launch has been the toughest of the seven cities they operate. originally 25 businesses signed up but because of some privacy concerns, only 19 remains. he hopes after this launch those concerns will disappear. in san francisco, abc7 news