this includes the fbi. some republicans believe we should not be abiding by the appropriations figures agreed to in the budget control act last year, but that spending should be lower. what would happen across the board funding was cut -- how to handle would you handle that? again, we would have to prioritize. in my opening statement that i provided to the committee, you can see the various threats that we are facing. we would have to cut down. we would have to find some area amongst those priorities were we would have to reduce personnel. but it is very hard to pick when reducing personnel to gang violence, the threat of child pronography -- every one of those priorities that we have is a substantial priority to the american outlook and security in the united states, but we would have to prioritize. that is what we had to do after september 11. we would have to do it again. >> and if the sequestration that was mandated by the budget control act, if we were allowed to go into effect january 1, how many agen

>> he is required to use fbi -- not necessarily fbi, but he is required to use government aircraft so that he is in continuous communications contact. >> does the fbi charge the attorney general's use of the fbi plane against its own budget or against the attorney general's own travel budget? >> i do think it goes against our budget, but i have to check on that. the i didn't cancies between the billing of the department of justice and ourselves for the attorney general i would have to get back to you on. >> yeah. then the question comes, why would the fbi be paying for this? >> i -- i would have to look at that. it is probably historical. it may be that we are responsible for his security now wherever he is, at whatever particular point in time, whatever transportation he uses. and how that is specifically billed, i will have to go and check on. >> and it is my understanding according to my friend on the left here, that this may have been a policy going back prior to this administration. if so, i still would like the information. then you won't be able to answer this, but i'm interest

we in the fbi cannot merely react to computer intrusions. hackers will seek to exploit every vulnerability, and we must be able to anticipate their moves. i share one example which he appeared in april, the fbi brought down an international network of fibers-infected computers controlled remotely by an attacker. the bureau took control of 5 servers the hackers had used to effect some 200 computers with malware, which allowed them to steal personal and financial information by recording user keystrokes. we not only shut down the servers, we took another unprecedented step. with court approval, the fbi responded to signals sent from infected computers in the united states. we sent those computers a command that stopped teh malw -- stopped the malware. you will see the surveying today's threats is somewhat like peering into a kaleidoscope with even the slightest rotation presents new patterns of color and light and just when it seems you understand a threat, the world turns and the threat has changed. as tom friedman has described in his book,

can you tell me how the training is available to fbi agents and what else can we do to help the fbi make progress on the problems of child abduction and abuse? >> we have for it to a forensic interviewers who are very qualified. they do great work. they get too much of that work unfortunately come and build up that expertise. we provide training to agents and task force officers generally the training lasts from three to four days. the statistics for 2011 is that we trained at 650 agents. the task force officers in 2011 alone. we will continue that. to the extent that there are law enforcement agencies that would benefit from that training. i'm sure the special agents in charge, and those particular divisions, we will try to accommodate. >> thank you very much. i was thinking back when i did a case as a prosecutor it was a nonviolent minor case, and there was a 5-year-old witness. i was out having to put her on the stand. i said do you know the truth is? and she said i do. but when i was four i always told lies dream act. [laughter] >> needless to say the case didn't go very far. metals

the fbi agent on the phone with them. they asked him questions and they manage to put to rest the outside of investigation. the whole mystery of tran-four is was luck. they should've been the first people the fbi went and talked to. instead, because they had connections -- because george bush was friendly with other members, they were put on the plane and flown out of the country. that was the end of that. on the other missed opportunity in the investigation, in my opinion. let's do one more question. we've been going for quite a while. one more. keep it brief. >> okay. [inaudible question] i was expecting an investigation into [inaudible question] >> [inaudible name] was an investigator in the fbi -- he was one of the very few that the fbi managed to go through. it started because the informants told the fbi that he had heard among a group of texas bullish of people they were talking about assassinating fbi agents. the informant help solve problems. he wanted money. everything he said turned out to be unreliable. the sto

share a typical day in the life of an fbi director. of an fbi director. >>

i'm not here to sell you the fbi doesn't know what they're doing because i don't know what the fbi is doing. not an agency that is forthcoming with operational decision making. i do think there are very legitimate questions. have the lessons of what went wrong been articulated, learn to , have -- has 9/11 been fully appreciated? are we now ready to face future threats? i can certainly tell you that restriction on intelligence gathering has been lifted. there are potential abuses involved in lifting it which is why there were imposed the fees bus. the fbi can no longer say we are not pointing investigate sellas so because we are not allowed to that is gone. there are other things that are still negative. the fbi and atf still hate each other. they're both in the justice department. the atf used to be of the treasury. when the atf was involved in the scandal of walking guns over the border into mexico, fast and furious, of the fbi guys i talked to were feeling caught literally smoke coming out of their ears sang these people are irresponsible, borderline criminal. nothing has changed in

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no, the fbi continue to appeals the case. at some point the fbi needs to hone up to the retaliation and end these cases. that's something within the director's power. something he could and should do immediately. finally, i want to thank the director for his candor in answering one of my written questions about the fbi's attempt to overclassify a memorandum provided to us. in a rare admission of fault, the written questions noted that the fbi erroneously stamped a memo to the congress as, quote/unquote, sensitive security information under the code of federal regulations. at first glance the stamp apeeshs to limit disclosure of the memo. how far, he closer looked and revealed the white house was using the authority reserve for the administrator of tsa. we in congress understand the need to appropriately classify information. this was an example of the cynical classification materials. i'm happy that the fbi honed up to this task or occasion, but worry it could signal a problem. i look forward to addressing these topics. thank

it was either the fbi or whatever. but these three, you know, entities were saying, look, you know, he's not -- you're not getting the right information out of him. you need to ask questions and the people that i spoke to said they weren't getting -- those theafn that they weren't getting the right information out of him. so -- >>. >> hi. david. you just said something thought i -- a guy like khalid sheikh mohammed can come out of nowhere. no bad's dead and the the ranks of al qaeda have been dismated by the predators. i know, the sub -- smart guys in groups with the roots there have through the timings we're bombing shown a transnational reach. where is the next threat coming? is someone like ksm likely to come up with one of the groups how can we identify or prevent such a threat? >> that's a great question, david. i think one of the most disagree intriguing people that i focused on since 2006, and at the time, i didn't know this, was one of ksm's proteges. i didn't know this at the time we, you know, ksm liked peopl

in continuous contact communications. >> does the fbi charged the attorneys general use at the fbi on budget or the attorney general some travel budget? >> it goes against our budget, but i'd have to check on that. the intricacies of the billing between the department of justice and the security of attorney general and have to get back to you on. >> then the question comes come away with the fbi be paying for this? >> i have to look at that. this is historical. we are responsible for his security wherever he is and whatever particular point in time and whatever transportation he uses. and how that is specifically built i will have to go and check on. >> it is my understanding according to my friend on my left ear that this may have been a policy going back prior to this administration. i still think the information. then he will appeal to answer this, but i'm interested in the costs so include that in your answer to me. according to information providing the fbi admits had to lease a private plane because the fbi chat with reserve for the senior justice department officials. >> the at

what more can the fbi do to be helpful with this really terrible, terrible thing? >> we have a program that we have had for a substantial period of time in which we focus on this phenomenon throughout the united states. and we have on a number of occasions had substantial ta takedowns of individuals who are involved in it. unfortunately, that does not end the problem. there are many more out there. the gratifying aspect of it from persons who work this is the victims we're able to save in terms of our activity. it's another area where we would love to be able to put additional resources. we try to leverage what resources we have because every child saved is a child that we'll remember for a good long time. >> thank you. >> senator cobb. >> thank you, mr. chairman. following up on the last point, you talked before about the need to prioritize in the event of sequesteration. every one of these responsibilities that the federal bureau of investigation have are important to nothing, and in many cases, they're important to the entire citizenry. when you said the budget

here's what the fbi had to say earlier. >> they negotiated with fbi undercover agents and purchased two inert, i say inert improvised explosive devices, ieds that were presented as c-4 based remote activated ieds. last night, the co-conspears placed the two ieds at the base of the concrete support pillar for this brecksville, northfield high-level bridge. attempted to remotely detonate the devices from a location that they deemed safe and one that would possibly give them an ali alibi. >> of course, cnn will continue to follow this developing story, bring you ever bit of breaking news from cleveland, ohio. thank you for joining "newsroom" with carol costello. hope you have a great day. "cnn newsroom" with kyra philips continues after a break. i'm always looking out for small ways to be more healthy. like splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweeteners. this bowl of strawberries is loaded with vitamin c. and now, b vitamins to boot. coffee doesn't have fiber. unless you want it to. splenda® essentials™ are the first and only line of sweeteners with a small boost of fiber, or antioxidant

fbi language needs since 9/11. the program has moved forward through increased recruitment, hiring retention, specialized training, technology, and collaboration. we have also significant lip increased the range and volume of the foreign language training the fbi offers to personnel who need to develop language proficiency to do their jobs. programs include academic emergent training and tailored language courses. we realize we are not able to address our foreign language needs with recruitment, hiring, or training alone. so we also invest in the development of human language technology tools. these tools provide the ability to triage and process large volumes of information while enabling the workforce to enhance productivity. through collaboration, we address our foreign language needs by leveraging the intelligence community and other partners through cross-community resource sharing, joint duty assignments and interagency short-term temporary duty assignment opportunities. we work with the national security edu

helped the fbi actually corrupt the fbi? >> over the years, i mean, we found out that his value to the fbi was actually minimal. he was not really giving a lot of information to them. in actuality, they were protecting him and allowing him to more or less do what he wanted to do out there. including murder. and you cannot have informants out there killing people. that's not the way it works. they should have been targets instead of informants. >> how much was the fact that his brother was -- was i think was speaker of the house at one point -- >> senate president. >> senate president. how much did that create at least an aura around him? did that affect it in any way? >> it did. i don't think people realized. it was kind of like a folk story a little bit, where he had the brother probably in the most powerful position in the government of massachusetts and he had the other brother as probably the most powerful mob boss in the area at the time. and they both played off that. they played off those reputations. and when it was

this includes the fbi. some believe we should not be abiding by the figures agreed to in the budget control act last year and that spending should be lower. what would happen if there was a drastic cut to funding, including the fbi of 5%? how would you handle that? >> we would have to prioritize. in my lengthier statement that i provided to the committee, you can see the various threats that we are facing. we would have to cut down, we would have to find some area where we would have to reduce personnel. it is very hard to pick when you are reducing personnel to address the cyber threat, reducing personnel in addressing the threat of a child pornography. every priority is a substantial priority to the american public and the security of the united states. we would have to prioritize. we would have to cut it again. >> if the sequestration mandated by the budget control act were allowed to go into affect january 1, how many agents would have to be let go? >> several hundreds, if not over 1000. >> how many do

here's what the fbi had to say earlier. >> they negotiated with fbi undercover agents and purchased two inert, i say inert improvised explosive devices, ieds that were presented as c-4 based remote activated ieds. last night, the co-conspears placed the two ieds at the base of the concrete support pillar for this brecksville, northfield high-level bridge. attempted to remotely detonate the devices from a location that they deemed safe and one that would possibly give them an ali alibi. >> of course, cnn will continue to follow this developing story, bring you ever bit of breaking news from cleveland, ohio. thank you for joining "newsroom" with carol costello. hope you have a great day. "cnn newsroom" with kyra philips continues after a break.

allow any fbi? >> yes, that speaks to the larger problem, which was the fbi and cia were at such odds with each other, they effectively took each other out of the interrogation regime because they didn't think that the story was very well told but they were they were using methods that were bordering on torture. the fbi would not let its agents allowed into these interrogations. i also think the cia went out of their way to try to do it themselves anyway. there's a lot of tension and conflict between the two agencies. the fbi, to a large degree, didn't play a role in any of the interrogations of these guys. i think that there were people at the highest levels at the fbi that are saying this is crazy. this guy blog 400,000 miles building and in criminal indictment of the sky. >> it happened in 2007 after ksm and others were brought to guantÁnamo. because of some adverse court opinions from the bush administration said well, we really need to do something here. we're probably going to have to build s

could you tell me how the train is available to fbi agents and what's can we do to help the fbi make progress on the problems of child abduction and abuse? >> we have four child forensic interviewers who are very qualified and do great work. they get too much of that work, unfortunately, and build up that expertise. we provide training to agents and task force officers around the country. generally the trainings last three to four days. statistics from 2011, we trained 650 agents. and task force officers in 2011 alone. and we'll continue that. and to the extent that there are law enforcement agencies that would benefit from that training, i'm sure our special agents in charge in those particular divisions would try to accommodate. >> thank you very much. i was just thinking back when i did a case as a prosecutor, and there was a nonviolent minor case, and there was a 5-year-old witness, and without having any of your investigative skills i put her on the stand and asked her what had happened and i said, now do you know what the truth is? she said, yes, i do. and she said, but when i

fbi director mueller acknowledged that those materials damaged the fbi's relationship with muslim communities and i commend chairman durbin for his recent letter to the fbi on the subject and i'm working on a letter to express my concerns as well. mr. romero, what actions should the fbi take to show that it is serious about reforming its training programs? >> thank you for the question, senator franken. and, yes, what i would first point out is, of course, those memos and files and training manuals surprised us. when we used the freedom of information act we go asking for documents that we don't know exist. and so we used the freedom of information act as democracy's x-ray. how do get information we need. that questions, hunches, based on conduct of what we've seen already when the fbi's been tracking young muslim men between the ages of 18 and 33 asking them to come in for voluntary fingerprinting, photographing, mapping out mosques. we had a hunch they had to have some training materials that were going to be troubling and problematic. and lamentably our hunches were borne out. i think fran

now the fbi is stepping up the fight. >>> and best week ever? after a $20 billion payday, mark zuckerberg swaps the hoodie for a tie at a surprise walk down zuckerberg swaps the hoodie for a tie at a surprise walk down the aisle. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> from nbc world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. >>> good evening. finding a way forward and a way out of afghanistan is chief among the pressing items at the table in chicago this evening, where president obama is hosting the leaders of nato, along with dozens of other heads of state. as anticipated, thousands of anti-war and other protesters have marched on the nato summit. and there is late word some of those demonstrations have gotten a bit out of hand. for police trying to keep the peace, it's made for high anxiety against a back drop of high stakes diplomacy. we have two reports from chicago tonight. we begin with nbc's john yang on the streets. john, what's happening? >> reporter: this is the end of the protest march about thre

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now the fbi is stepping up the fight. >>> and best week ever? after a $20 billion payday, mark zuckerberg swaps the hoodie for a tie and a surprise walk down zuckerberg swaps the hoodie for a tie and a surprise walk down the aisle. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> good evening. finding a way forward and a way out of afghanistan is chief among the pressing items at the table in chicago this evening, where president obama is hosting the leaders of nato, along with dozens of other heads of state. but there are competing agendas vying to be heard on the streets of chicago tonight whereas anticipated thousands of anti-war and other protesters have marched on the nato summit. and there is late word some of those demonstrations have gotten a bit out of hand. for police trying to keep the peace, it's made for some high anxiety against a backdrop of high stakes diplomacy. we have two reports from chicago tonight. we begin with nbc's john yang on the streets. john, what's happening? >> reporter: lester, chicago police are slowly and metho

this includes the fbi. some believe we should not be abiding by the figures agreed to in the budget control act last year and that spending should be lower. what would happen if there was a drastic cut to funding, including the fbi of 5%? how would you handle that? >> we would have to prioritize. in my lengthier statement that i provided to the committee, you can see the various threats that we are facing. we would have to cut down, we would have to find some area where we would have to reduce personnel. it is very hard to pick when you are reducing personnel to address the cyber threat, reducing personnel in addressing the threat of a child pornography. every priority is a substantial priority to the american public and the security of the united states. we would have to prioritize. we would have to cut it again. >> if the sequestration mandated by the budget control act were allowed to go into affect january 1, how many agents would have to be let go? >> several hundreds, if not over 1000. >> how many do

how many people in the fbi spoke arabic? >> eight, nine, something like that. >> smith: how many of them were working on al qaeda? >> i don't know. i think maybe i was the on one. >> smith: soufan was made chief investigator for the uss cole investigation, a major assignment. that's soufan there in a meeting with yemen's president, ali abdullah saleh, and fbi director louis freeh. you began the investigation. how do you begin something that? where do you start? >> you start fro scene. you start taking statements from people who were on the ship, or people in the harbor, anybody who saw something. and you start building on that. by the time he got to yemen, soufan knew al qaeda as well as anyone in the fbi. and he had a special approach to his interrogations. >> what we did all the time in cases like these is to outsmart that individual. you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. >> smith: you compared interrogations-- interrogating somebody-- as like dating. sometimes, it is. and i tried to basically... ( laughs)

you or the fbi? who went in first to ask him fbi or cia. >> it was a joint effort. we went in together: soufan says he got information to from would you have bade da that led to information about khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff it? >> did not lead to khalid sheikh mohammed. >> bill: once you started the rough stuff sue would you have bade da would you zubaydah. did he just shut down. >> we not waterboard him until august of that year. >> did the fbi get high information about without the rh stuff the fbi and you. >> the only thing the fbi will give him credit for him to get the nickname of muktar and that was it. >> >> bill: so you contend that alisoufan is not telling the truth here. >> he doesn't know because he was not there when we started to do the enhanced interrogation techniques. he doesn't know what we got. we got thousands of intelligence reports that basically allowed us to take down and destroy the al qaeda organization attacked us on 9/11. he doesn't know. >> bill: is there bad blood between the fbi and the cia on the terror front? >> no,

. >>> vamos a la pausa, el fbi lanza advertencia luego del plan de ataque de al qaa contra un aviÓn de pasajeros. >>> como evitar el fraude del medicare. >>> y muere en los Ángeles, un estilista de belleza de los mÁs famosos, no le cambie. ♪. ♪. >>> un juez de orange, decidiÓ que dos policÍas sean juzgados por la muerte de un desamparado con problemas mentales, por un video de vigilancia, en la confrontaciÓn de agentes y desamparado, los acusados son manuel ramos, y jay chichineli. >>> estudiantes y padres demandaron al distrito escolar unificado de los Ángeles, por no proteger de abuso sexual a estudiantes de la primaria miramonte, la demanda del 4 de mayo, dice que sabÍa el distrito desde el 1990 que existianeo abusos. >>> surgieron nuevas inquietudes ante la frustraciÓn de un plan de ataque de al qaeda contra un aviÓn de pasajeros. advirtieron que estudian fabricas explosivos diferentes hasta los usados hasta ahora. el propio director del fbi lanÓo advertencias en una audiencia del congreso. >>> parece el guiÓn de una pelÍcula taquillera, la organizaciÓn terterroris

. >>> vamos a la pausa, el fbi lanza univunadvertencia luego dn de ataque de al qaeda contra un aviÓn de pasajeros. >>> como evitar el fraude del medicare. ticiermuere en los Ángeles, un @ ivisiolista univbelleza de losÁn Ó que dos policÍas sean juzgados por la muerte de un desamparado con problemas mentales, por uni confrontaciÓn de agentes y desamparado, los acusados son manuel ramos, y jay chichineli. >>> estudiantes y padres demandaron al distrito escolarÁn ionunivision@@noticiero univisÍo desde elun 1990 que existianeo abusos. >>> surgieron nuevas inquietudes ante la frustraciÓn de un plan de unaque de al qaeda contra un aviÓn de pasajeros. advirtieron que estudian fabricas explosivos diferentes hasta los usados hasta ahora. el propio director del fbi lanÓo advertencias en una audiencia ciero univisionunivision@@notici o univennisionvo y@@ ciero isios explosivo para destruir un aviÓn a estados unidos. el suicida, era en realidad un doble agente de la inteligencia del paÍs, que impide la tragedia, el complot de al qaeda en yemen no podrÍa ser mÁs tenebroso o real. >>

verbal bra between the fbi and cia. we will hear the fbi's point of view this evening. shocking ruling by a court that says can you watch child porn on the net and not be prosecuted. we hope you stay tuned to those reports. >> bill: follow up segment last week we interviewed rodriguez the man in charge of the program that wausharaed three captured terrorists. i asked him about a former book from former agent who criticizes harsh interrogation : sufan says he he got information from sue bade da that led directly to khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff. >> it did not lead to khalid sheikh mohammed, bill. >> bill: you contend is he not telling the truth here. >> i contend is he not telling the truth. and he doesn't know because he was not there when we started to do the enhanced interrogation techniques. he doesn't know what we got. >> bill: here now to reply is mr. sufan the author of the book black banners inside story of 9/11 and the war against al qaeda. what say you? >> thank you for the opportunity to respond. >> bill: sure, absolutely. >> you know, mr. rod

the fbi think this is related to the anniversary of osama bin laden? >> at this point, they saying no, shape. from what they detailed, they part a self-described anaist group with no known ties to internationalitism and like the plots in our area, the fbi appears to have uncovered the plan. the fbi said the target was a bridge over the cuyahoga valley national park and that is in brecksville, ohio, about 15 miles south of cleveland. authorities say the five men under arrest are self-described anarchists and, starting in october, the fbi infiltrated their group. they say the public was never in any danger when the suspect placed what they thought were c- 4 explosives at the bias of the bridge on monday. in fact, those were duds provided to the suspects by federal authorities. >> last night, the coconspirators placed the two i.d.s at the base of the concrete -- for this brecksville-northfield high- level bridge and attempted to remotely detonate the devices from the location that they deemed safe and one that was possibly giving them an alibi. all sides

that device is in the hands of fbi. agents with the cia seized it in yemen after following a man who had not picked a target or bought a plane ticket. the intend user of the bomb is no longer a threat meaning the person could be dead or has been arrested. the fbi is now studying the device that is an improved version of the so-called underwear bomb that was used in a failed attempt to blow up an airliner on christmas day in 2009. the new bomb has a highly defined dead nation system meaning metal deteggors would have been ineffective and full body scanners may not have caught the device. >> i have been told by people who are work on -- working on the case if it happened before september 11th it would have succeed. >> reporter: almost all

you or the fbi? who went in first to ask him fbi or cia. >> it was a joint effort. we went in together: soufan says he got information to from would you have bade da that led to information about khalid sheikh mohammed without the rough stuff it? >> did not lead to khalid sheikh mohammed. >> bill: once you started the rough stuff sue would you have bade da would you zubaydah. did he just shut down. >> we not waterboard him until august of that year. >> did the fbi get high information about without the rh stuff the fbi and you. >> the only thing the fbi will give him credit for him to get the nickname of muktar and that was it. >> >> bill: so you contend that alisoufan is not telling the truth here. >> he doesn't know because he was not there when we started to do the enhanced interrogation techniques. he doesn't know what we got. we got thousands of intelligence reports that basically allowed us to take down and destroy the al qaeda organization attacked us on 9/11. he doesn't know. >> bill: is there bad blood between the fbi and the cia on the terror front? >> no,

>> we really don't know what his job function was what the fbi. we don't know what unit he left when came to -- >> national security. >> we don't know, i mean national security goes quite a range. so we don't really know what he was exposed to. we don't know what his record is and where he was with the finn. we don't know if he has any kind of post traumatic stress situation. >> he was a cop about that. >> eight years lapd. are the wife is also tight lipped. she would certainly know why he is depressed. if he went into the canyon and actually committed suicide with the weapon, a canine will pick up the scent. that is pretty rare. >> they followed his subsequent into the mountain. >> not his scent with you the scent of a dead body. >> the problem is you have to be tight lipped. suicide potentially. national security. >> you are looking for one of your own. >> it is one of our own and i don't think there is any reason to be tight lipped. i think the natural course is to open up in these circumstances. these at agents are people, to. i remember getti

and that's how he became head of the fbi. hoover survival to the thicket was a masterpiece of bureaucratic dextery. he learned a lot of lessons. he learned a life-long distress of communism, liberal, people who would stand up under the pretext and civil liberties and a life-long sense of empowerment to bend the rules for the country and themselves. i know, it's interesting, in talking about j. hoover to talk about his sex life and what he may or may not have done with clyde. my own feeling, the more important lessons from his life deal with how we address civil liberties in our country in times of stress. when he look back at the red scare generation. we often dismiss them, look down of them as a group that engaged in a over reaction. we today are are no different than them. we are no smarter than the people who were alive at this time. we have to be careful that we can conduct ourselves in a way that future generations will not judge us the way we judge them. with that, i thank you for you patience. i hope we have a little t

the fbi and you? the only thing give credit to get the nickname of muktar and this was it. >> bill: you contend that ali zufan is not telling the truth here. >> i contend and he doesn't know when we started doing the enhanced interrogation tech -- techniques. we got thousands of reports that got us to take down and destroy the al qaeda on 9/11. he doesn't know. >> bill: is there bad blood between the fbi and cia on the terror front? >> no, there is not. actually, the relationships are very good. and having improved with time. >> bill: this guy is just a rogue guy this zufan. >> rogue guy. he had difficulty black side. he had difficulty millennium plot in jordan. he had difficulty after he left us and he went to gahanna guantanamo with the military. >> is he a difficult guy. >> all right. well the book is fascinating. i have to say. anybody who is interested in the war on terror thank you for coming. >> in thank you very much. >> bill: radical left wants america to fail. show you more proof of that und

the fbi and you? the only thing give credit to get the nickname of muktar and this was it. >> bill: you contend that ali zufan is not telling the truth here. >> i contend and he doesn't know when we started doing the enhanced interrogation tech -- techniques. we got thousands of reports that got us to take down and destroy the al qaeda on 9/11. he doesn't know. >> bill: is there bad blood between the fbi and cia on the terror front? >> no, there is not. actually, the relationships are very good. and having improved with time. >> bill: this guy is just a rogue guy this zufan. >> rogue guy. he had difficulty black side. he had difficulty millennium plot in jordan. he had difficulty after he left us and he went to gahanna guantanamo with the military. >> is he a difficult guy. >> all right. well the book is fascinating. i have to say. anybody who is interested in the war on terror thank you for coming. >> in thank you very much. >> bill: radical left wants america to fail. show you more proof of that und

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