in 1998 that idea became google. today it's the world's largest search engine valued at $200 billion. page became c.e.o. of the company he founded last year and the height of its streak google nevertheless faces a host of challenges. the rise of facebook and the social search, the competition with a until the mobile technology market and the battle to stay one step ahead of silicon valley's disruptive young startups. i am pleased to have larry page back at this table to talk about all those things. welcome. >> thank you. >> i want to show you this. that was 11 years ago when you and sergei dame here in 2001. roll tape. >> we're both actually kind of obnoxious. thalt's when i was recruiting them to a stanford ph.d. program. we had to debate every point which i tend to do as well. so while we're continuously arguing that's also our commonalty and we got to be friends early on once we started the. t.d. program. >> rose: has the relationship changed over the years? >> i think i've had a great relationship with sergei and

had to google in the first place to provide it with information and google had sort of said we'll give you the details but you know keeping to yourself what the f.c.c. could have done is waited till they had googles for mission to release the report and then released everything at once instead they sort of release the report into to what's first a heavily redacted report you get a huge amount of press focusing on the. the sort of twenty five thousand dollar fine and the fact that google's engineer pled the fifth and then you know much much less press afterwards once the full context of it was revealed like the other four as revealed by google right now release the full report this weekend and then the f.c.c. posted also the full hour on its website only one day this allows if the f.c.c. to say well look you know we eventually close to the full report but clearly you know the goal here was to have the press focus on these sort of silly details rather than focusing on the fact that google had been lying to us for several years and now you know everyone's over and so but though in that se

we has google buzz google wave, and we have learned from each of those cases, and google plus, i think does a great job overall with really modeling how people like to share information. i can share information with a certain circle of people. >> right. >> right? and it does a good job on that. you can see some of the learnings that we have had play out there. >> yeah, well, our circle of time has contracted so i'm really grateful, thanks again for taking the time to be here. >> thank you very much for having me. >> up next a few thoughts on today's guests. direct on current tv. >>the dominoes are starting to fall. (vo) granholm is live in the war room. >> what should women be doing? >> electing women to office. (vo) she's a political trailblazer. >>republicans of course didn't let facts get in the way of spin. >>do it, for america. ♪ i don't wanna be right ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ if being right means being without you ♪ [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, 100% whole grain oats... and that

in 1998 that idea became google. today it's the world's largest search engine valued at $200 billion. page became c.e.o. of the company he founded last year and the height of its streak google nevertheless faces a host of challenges. the rise of facebook and the social search, the competition with a until the mobile technology market and the battle to stay one step ahead of silicon valley's disruptive young startups. i am pleased to have larry page back at this table to talk about all those things. welcome. >>hank you. >> i want to show you this. that was 11 years ago when you and sergei dame here in 2001. roll tape. >> we're both actually kind of obnoxious. thalt's when i was recruiting them to a stanford ph.d. program. we had to debate every point which i tend to do as well. so while we're continuously arguing that's also our commonalty and we got to be friends early on once we started the. t.d. program. >> rose: has the relationship changed over the years? >> i think i've had a great relationship with sergei and c

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report that google put out there right when have it's really interesting if f.c.c. want to cover some of this stuff up at the same time you have google who is exposing themselves as liars. well i don't know if i'd go that far i mean if this was a nobody in a in a position of decision making authority approved will. capturing a few snippets here and there of a wife on a conversation that when this was this was an engineer is ready and it actually is kind of a little technical idea if any if this was a policy of the company the d.o.j. what is the lamb that was nothing more than a twenty five thousand dollars fine that didn't happen googling a google defense if if there is one is to have is to give a lot of authority to engineers and maybe not enough oversight but so you think probably there were no real privacy violations that they didn't violate any kind of loss of google has been a lot of trouble of what this around the world right we've seen a lot of other foreign governments go after google we saw a judge here in the u.s. role that google can they can go after the

report that google put out there right when have it's really interesting is f.c.c. wanted to cover some of this stuff up at the same time you have google who is exposing themselves as liars. well i don't know if i'd go that far i mean if this was a nobody in a in a position of decision making authority approved will. capturing a few snippets here and there of a wife on a conversation that when this was this was an engineers brady and it actually is kind of a little technical idea if any if this was a policy of the company the d.o.j. what is the lamb that was nothing more than a twenty five thousand dollars fine that didn't happen googling google's offensive if there is one is to have is to give a lot of authority to engineers and that maybe not enough oversight but so you think probably there were no real privacy violations that they didn't violate any kind of lots of the will have been a lot of trouble of what this around the world right we've seen a lot of other foreign governments go after google we saw a judge here in the u.s. role that google can they can go af

we has google buzz google wave and we have learned from each of those cases, and google plus, i think does a great job overall with really modeling how people like to share information. i can share information with a certain circle of people. >> right. >> right? and it does a good job on that. you can see some of the learnings that we have had play out there. >> yeah, well, our circle of time has contracted so i'm really grateful, thanks again for taking the time to be here. >> thank you very much for >>we're just getting started. (vo) the state of the 2012 campaign. brought to you by spiriva. if you have copd like i do you know how hard it can be to breathe and what that feels like. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open a full 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. and it's steroid-free. spiriva does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems glaucoma, trouble urinating

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the jury says maybe google infringed and maybe they didn't. >> susie: google's lawyers sayta miss trial and oracle saying they want a share of google's profits. what do you think the judge will say? >> there is a lot of steps left in the process. first a judge has to decide if you can get a copyright on this programming language we're talking about. also the jury punted on this issue, like you said is this a legal fare use. if this is found to be a legal fare use then google doesn't infringe therehere is the issue of patents. that's the next phase. after those two phases if google is found to infringe then there is a third phase to decide on damages. >> before we get to phase two and three, looking at phase one. who won and who lost? looking at investor reaction and the charts here. google stock was up 2% after the news came out. oracle was down by as much. did investors get it right? >> i think they did. on the one hand ile oracle got a tiny victory the jury found google may of infringed on the copyrights. the fact that the jury couldn't agree if the use was fare is a big deal. if the

report that google put out there right when it's really interesting is f.c.c. wanted to cover some of this stuff up at the same time you have google who is exposing themselves as liars well i don't know if i'd go that far i mean if this was a nobody in a in a position of decision making authority approved google. capturing a few snippets here and there of a wife on a conversation that when this was this was an engineer is ready and it actually is kind of a little technical idea if any if this was a policy of the company the d.o.j. what is the lamb that was nothing more than a twenty five thousand dollars fine that didn't happen googling google's offensive if there is one is to have to give a lot of authority to engineers and maybe not enough oversight but so you think probably there were no real privacy violations that they didn't violate any kind of lots of the will have been a lot of trouble of what this around the world right we've seen a lot of other foreign governments go after google we saw a judge here in the u.s. role that google can that they can go af

the jury says maybe google infringed and maybe they didn't. >> susie: google's lawyers sayta miss trial and oracle saying they want a share of google's profits. what do you think the judge will say? >> there is a lot of steps left in the process. first a judge has to decide if you can get a copyright on this programming language we're talking about. also the jury punted on this issue, like you said is this a legal fare use. if this is found to be a legal fare use then google doesn't infringe. there there is the issue of patents. that's the next phase. after those two phases if google is found to infringe then there is a third phase to decide on damages. >> before we get to phase two and three, looking at phase one. who won and who lost? looking at investor reaction and the charts here. google stock was up 2% after the news came out. oracle was down by as much. did investors get it right? >> i think they did. on the one hand while oracle got a tiny victory the jury found google may of infringed on the copyrights. the fact that the jury couldn't agree if the use was fare is a big deal. if

in 1998 that idea became google. today it's the world's largest search engine valued at $200 billion. page became c.e.o. of the company he founded last year and the height of its streak google nevertheless faces a host of challenges. the rise of facebook and the social search, the competition with a until the mobile technology market and the battle to stay one step ahead of silicon valley's disruptive young startups. i am pleased to have larry page back at this table to talk about all those things. welcome. >> thank you. >> i want to show you this. that was 11 years ago when you and sergei dame here in 2001. roll tape. >> we're both actually kind of obnoxious. thalt's when i was recruiting them to a stanford ph.d. program. we had to debate every point which i tend to do as well. so while we're continuously arguing that's also our commonalty and we got to be friends early on once we started the. t.d. program. >> rose: has the relatiship changed over the years? >> i think i've had a great relationship with sergei and c

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had to google in the first place to provide it with information and google had sort of said we'll give you the details but you know keeping to yourself what the f.c.c. could have done is waited till they had googles for missions to release the report and then release everything at once instead they sort of release the report into to what's first a heavily redacted report you've got a huge amount of press focusing on the. the sort of twenty five thousand dollar fine and the fact that google's engineer pled the fifth and then you know much much less press afterwards once the full context of it was revealed like the other four as revealed by google right will release the full report this weekend and then the f.c.c. posted also the full hour on its website only one day this allows if the f.c.c. to say well look you know we eventually close to the full report but clearly you know the goal here was to have the press focus on these sort of silly details rather than focusing on the fact that google had been lying to us for several years and now you know everyone's over it's over though in that

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google drive. google maps you can go down the list google voice they do this by cost shifting when you cost shift you bring a competent and competitive product to the market and you give a lower zero cost to it it's very very difficult for companies who used to make a fair margin to give people free especially that free product is compared competitive or better than a product you offering in terms of enjoyed google actually has a negative margin project is less than free you know who gives away enjoy and then has revenue sharing with downloads and ads where those that use android can actually benefit and make money from the end user using android with a negative margin product how do you compete it's not enough to compete with free how do you compete with this in free which is why android is growing so quickly well google has done with android was they've created a new business model and most people think they're creating new tech or new o.-s. you know and they didn't you know they bought a vest an

report that google put out there right when have it's really interesting if f.c.c. want to cover some of this stuff up at the same time you have google who is exposing themselves as liars. well i don't know if i'd go that far i mean if this was a nobody in a in a position of decision making authority approved will. capturing a few snippets here and there of a wife on a conversation that when this was this was an engineer is ready and it actually is kind of a little technical idea if any if this was a policy of the company the d.o.j. what was the lamb that was nothing more than a twenty five thousand dollars fine that didn't happen googling it google's offensive if there is one is to have is to give a lot of authority to engineers and maybe not enough oversight but so you think probably there were no real privacy violations that they didn't violate any kind of loss of the will have been in a lot of trouble of what this around the world right we've seen a lot of other foreign governments go after google we saw a judge here in the u.s. role that google can they can go

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we has google buzz google wave, and we have learned from each of those cases, and google plus, i think does a great job overall with really modeling how people like to share information. i can share information with a certain circle of people. >> right. >> right? and it does a good job on that. you can see some of the learnings that we have had play out there. >> yeah, well, our circle of time has contracted so i'm really grateful, thanks again for taking the time to be here. >> thank you very much for jennifer granholm is politically direct on current tv. >>the dominoes are starting to fall. (vo) granholm is live in the war room. >> what should women be doing? >> electing women to office. (vo) she's a political trailblazer. >>republicans of course didn't let facts get in the way of spin. >>do it, for america. ♪ >>> innovation dedication and drive, and marissa, watch her, he is destined to have an even broader impact. and facebook, we have seem them impact in remarkable ways. i also had to address what is is not happening in government sectors. i want to look at ways people change ou

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google has underperformed the market all year long. i'm going to isolate the previous low in january. rarely what i wanted to do with the stock, by the tune of 550, 600. 506 is my max risk, okay. my max gain is 1,950. so i bought one of the june 585 puts for 14 bucks, sold one of the june at 7506789 between 579.5 and 560, i can make up to 1950. below 560 i make three and a half times my money. and losses, max/loss. >> you know, there are things about this trade i like, and there are things about this trade i don't like. the first thing i think is really challenging is that while the whole tape looks weak, going sl actually fundamentally a relatively cheap stock and that's one of the things i think could be a backstop here. if you're going to make a bearish bet, there are a couple of things. the price options is relatively high. skew is relatively high. this is not a leveraged company. >> you can't just throw out it's a cheap stock. >> why do you say it's cheap. >> defend that. why do you say it's cheap? >> mobile is harder to monetize.

when i look at google, it looked like people were selling google to buy facebook. i was a couple of hours ago when the stock dropped 3%, you may want to wait for a bounce. i was thinking about a short-term structure in google. >> a put spread. >> a put spread. dan is using a put spread and for those new to the show or trading, it's a fairly common strategy, but always good to crack open the playbook. this is a bearish strategy where you buy 1 and reduce the cost by selling a lower strike put of the lower separation against it. the goal is simple. you want the stock to fall to the low put strike. that is where you make the most money. that is where your profits are capped. i am looking at june expiration because i think the market has the potential to go to 1250 and google has underperformed all year. i am going to isolate the low in january. what i wanted to do with the stock is buy the june put spread for 650. 650 is the max risk. the max gain is 1950. i bought one of the june 585 puts and sold one of the 560 puts at 7.50. between 579 half and 560, i can make up t

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the jury says maybe google infringed and maybe they didn't. >> susie: google's lawyers sayta miss trial and oracle saying they want a share of google's profits. what do you think the judge will say? >> there is a lot of steps left in the process. first a judge has to decide if you can get a copyright on this programming language we're talking about. also the jury punted on this issue, like you said is this a legal fare use. if this is found to be a legal fare use then google doesn't infringe. there there is the issue of patents. that's the next phase. after those two phases if google is found to infringe then there is a third phase to decide on damages. >> before we get to phase two and three, a at phase one. who won and who lost? looking at investor reaction and the charts here. google stock was up 2% after the news came out. oracle was down by as much. did investors get it right? >> i think they did. on the one hand while oracle got a tiny victory the jury found google may of infringed on the copyrights. the fact that the jury couldn't agree if the use was fare is a big deal. if the u

google drive google maps you can go down the list google voice they do this by cost shifting when you cost shift you bring a competent and competitive product to the market and you give a lower zero cost to it is very very difficult for companies who used to make it fair margins to people free especially that free product is compared competitive or better than a product offering in terms of enjoyed google actually has a negative margin project to free you know who gives away enjoy and then has revenue sharing with downloads and ads where those that use android can actually benefit and make money from the end users using android with a negative margin product how do you compete it's not enough to compete with free how do you compete with less in free which is why android is growing so quickly well google has done with android was they've created a new business model and most people think they're creating new tech or new o.-s. you know and they didn't you know they bought it and they expanded it what they did was create a new business model to use open source software to compete with th

google drive google maps could go down the list google voice they do this by cost shifting when you cost shift you bring a competent and competitive product to the market and you give a lower zero cost to it is very very difficult for companies who used to make it fair margins to people free especially that free product is compared competitive or better than a product offering in terms of enjoyed google actually has a negative margin project that's the free you know who gives away enjoy and then has revenue sharing with downloads and ads where those that use android can actually benefit and make money from the end users using agile with a negative margin product how do you compete it's not enough to compete with free how do you compete with this in free which is why android is growing so quickly well google has done with android was they've created a new business model and most people think they're creating new tech or new o.-s. you know and they didn't you know they bought and they expanded it what they did was create a new business model to use open source software to compete with that

google drive google maps you can go down the list google voice they do this by cost shifting when you cost shift you bring a competent and competitive product to the market and you give a lower zero cost to it is very very difficult for companies who used to make it fair margins to give people free especially that free product is compared competitive or better than a product offering in terms of enjoyed google actually has a negative margin project that's the free you know who gives away enjoy and then has revenue sharing with downloads and ads where those that use android can actually benefit and make money from the end users using android with a negative margin product how do you compete it's not enough to compete with free how do you compete with less in free which is why i enjoyed it. grown so quickly well google's done with android was they've created a new business model and most people think they're creating new tech or new o.-s. you know and they didn't you know they bought a vest and they expanded it what they did was create a new business model to use open source software to

google was a search engine when it started. like yahoo. and now they build cars that drive themselves. so there is an up side to having these technology companies with significant resources. it would be very hard to develop that sort of product in your garage. >> and very quickly, gautham nagesh, is facebook a high-tech company anymore? >> i think. so facebook is cutting edge in technology. when people compare facebook to my space and some of these other networks, they're selling themselves short. fbs tbs was not always the most cutting edge social network but they have consistently shown an ability to evolve in a crowd pleasing way. they have some of the best engineers out there. it's one of the most desirable places to work. most people there are going to be rich very shortly. so they are definitely a high-tech company. >> gautham nagesh with cq roll call. thank you for being on the "washington journal." >> when immigrants start to show up in significant numbers, which is somewhat the case in the 1820s and 1830s but really very much the

i woke up in the morning, i wanted to work at google and i wanted to work at google because i felt like the smartest people were there and i felt like it was something i didn't feel ready to do so i knew it would be a big growth opportunity. and i also probably felt that for a bunch of reasons i couldn't articulate. >> let's talk about where google is today and where it is in contrast to the future. people talk about future and they talk about a lot of things, including social media, including icloud, and wireless. they talk about four companies, amazon, apple, facebook and google. how do you see google and also in different products now. i mean, facebook, social media, google was search, apple was commercial products and amazon was e-commerce. now everybody's business, including google getting into social media. can you compete with facebook? >> well, i think that one of the things that's interesting about technology right now is this confluence of all these different factors. information and what's available online and the social aspects. and the mobile aspects. and i think that's som

between google and n.s.a. would reveal protected information about n.s.a. the implementation of its information assurance mission like i said this has turned into quite the saga but it's worth seeing how the process works to understand the many ways in which government agencies fight transparency buying voting invoking national security and how the courts respond so now they are enlightened on why are being kept in the dark let's get into why this matters join me to discuss a treasure ten activists at the elektra monica frontier foundation trevor thanks for joining us tonight and. basically what i want to do is i think that some people out there are going to play devil's advocate would say that who cares if google has a security problem why wouldn't they turn to the n.s.a. and have them help them fix that they're the biggest internet company in the world but why should we know about this well i think it goes back to the history of the n.s.a. the last decade and how they've actually been working way more extensively with telecommunications providers internet

the jury foreman said the final vote that google could fairly use the material 9-3 for google. both google and oracle shares were higher today. the next phase of the case will determine what, if any, money google owes oracle. a tech stock to watch tomorrow will be data storage firm net- app. after closing just below $33 tonight, the stock fell to $25 and a change in after hours action. the c.e.o. warned about a slowdown in europe and issued a disappointing revenue outlook. one consequence of the european worries: lower energy prices. u.s. crude oil continued moving lower, falling almost $2 to selling below $90 a barrel. that's its lowest price of the year. our e.t.f. "market flash," four of the most actively traded funds reversed earlier losses to end higher, except the emerging market fund. it lost 0.7%. and that's tonight's "market focus." >> tom: with memorial day on the horizon, all this week we're focusing on veterans and hiring. in the past decade more than two million americans have served in the military. when they return to civilian life, some are finding work in the s

i think google, as you probably have seen google's lobbying spending is increasing dramatically. so are most teletech companies. because issues like online privacy, cyber security, regulation, they affect their business and they realize they have to have washington's ear. >> didn't microsoft start off that way as well? they started off with a very small washington presence and then ram upped up very quickly? >> absolutely. that's my understanding. that washington -- or microsoft really pioneered that attitude of a hands-off approach from the technology industry from the east coast to washington. >> well, we want to share with you some of the contacts or some of the people now working for facebook who have political contacts. and we'll start with their chief operating officer cheryl sandberg. she's former treasury department chief of staff for president clinton and she's former vice president at google. there's also joe lockhart, who you will remember, former press secretary to president clinton. adviser to senator kerry in his 2004 presidential campaign. now, another new hire for

you fell in love with google plus. what is it about google plus, is it an unfair comparison and something completely different? >> at some level a duck is a duck is a duck. when we came out with the mackintosh, we could have said it's not a personal computer. that's bs. you're going to buy a pc or mack. you're not going to buy both. when i saw the google plus, the esthetic, the design was so much cleaner than facebook at the time. and the ability to include pictures compared to twitter that was eye-opening. i like the fact that you can edit a comment or a post after the fact on google plus. but once you post on twitter or facebook, it's gone. you can't get it back. you can get fired for doing whatever you did. i also--facebook has this thing called edge rank where you might have a thousand friends on facebook but only 10% can see your posts those who have interacted with you. 1,000 people said they want to see what i do, buffets book is deciding which 10% can see it. whereas on google plus if i had a thousand followers

between google and at say would reveal protected information about n.s.a.'s implementation of its information assurance mission like i said this has turned into quite a saga but it's worth seeing how the process works to understand the many ways in which government agencies fight transparency buying voting invoking national security and how the courts respond so now they are enlightened on why are being kept in the dark let's get into why this matters join me to discuss a treasure ten activists at the elektra monica frontier foundation trevor thanks for joining us tonight and. basically what i want to do is i think that some people out there are going to play devil's advocate would say that who cares if google has a security problem why wouldn't they turn to the n.s.a. and have them help them fix it they're the biggest internet company in the world but why should we know about this well i think it goes back to the history of the n.s.a. the last decade and how they've actually been working way more extensively with telecommunications providers internet servic

you fell in love with google plus. what is it about google plus, is it an unfair comparison and something completely different? >> at some level a duck is a duck is a duck. when we came out with the mackintosh, we could have said it's not a personal computer. that's bs. you're going to buy a pc or mack. you're not going to buy both. when i saw the google plus, the esthetic, the design was so much cleaner than facebook at the time. and the ability to include pictures compared to twitter that was eye-opening. i like the fact that you can edit a comment or a post after the fact on google plus. but once you post on twitter or facebook, it's gone. you can't get it back. you can get fired for doing whatever you did. i also--facebook has this thing called edge rank where you might have a thousand friends on facebook but only 10% can see your posts, those who have interacted with you. 1,000 people said they want to see what i do, buffets book is deciding which 10% can see it. whereas on google plus if i had a thousand follower

between google and say would reveal protected information about n.s.a.'s implementation of its information assurance mission like i said this has turned into quite the saga but it's worth seeing how the process works to understand the many ways in which government agencies fight transparency buying voting invoking national security and how the courts respond so now they are enlightened on why are being kept in the dark let's get into why this matters join me to discuss a treasure ten activists at the elektra monica frontier foundation trevor thanks for joining us tonight and. basically what i want to do is i think that some people out there are going to play devil's advocate would say that who cares if google has a security problem why wouldn't they turn to the n.s.a. and have them help them fix that they're the biggest internet company in the world but why should we know about this well i think it goes back to the history of the n.s.a. the last decade and how they've actually been working way more extensively with telecommunications providers internet se