has said that iran hasn't taken as iran the netanyahu government is engaging in demagoguery i thought you know also the former head of my degen has said very clearly that iran hasn't taken that step but then sanctions need to be applied and iran i think they're having an effect we've seen some of the most frankly reactionary elements in the iranian regime people like cars in the city who is the i want to cry friday prayer leaders who actually link to the bad job of women in the rain and women to said quite frankly that sanctions need to be lifted i live in a bridge idea who is the head of the parliamentary commission of national security and foreign policy has also said that sanctions need to be lifted and i also think there was this rumor which i jolly implored. cathy ashton saying that we need to basically need to lift sanctions or give us sanctions relief so i also think the iranians might have made a mistake and they basically showed their hand too quickly to the europeans or most of the elements of the p five plus one and this is why there have been less forthcoming with sanction

has said iran hasn't taken as iran the netanyahu government is engaging in demagoguery you know also the former head of my degen has said very clearly that iran hasn't taken that step but then sanctions need to be applied and iran i think they're having an effect we've seen some of the most frankly reactionary elements in the iranian regime people like causing this idea c.d.p. who is the i want to cry friday prayer leaders who actually link to the bad job of women in the rain and women and said quite frankly that sanctions need to be lifted i live in a bridge idea is the head of the parliamentary commission of national security and foreign policy has also said that sanctions need to be lifted and i also think there was this rumor which i jolly implored. cathy ashton saying that we need to basically need to lift sanctions or give us sanctions relief so i also think the iranians might have made a mistake and they basically showed their hand too quickly to the europeans or most of the other most of the p five plus one and this is why there have been less forthcoming with sanctions relie

iran hasn't taken as iran the netanyahu government is engaging in demagoguery. also the former head of my degen has said very clearly that iran hasn't taken that step but then sanctions need to be applied and iran i think they're having an effect we've seen some of the most frankly reactionary elements in the iranian regime people like cosmos idea c.d.p. who is the i want to cry friday prayer leaders who actually link to the bad job of women in the rain and women to said quite frankly that sanctions need to be lifted i live in a bridge area the who is the head of the parliamentary commission of national security and foreign policy has also said that sanctions need to be lifted and i also think there was this rumor which i jolly implored. cathy ashton saying that we need to basically need to lift sanctions or give us sanctions relief so i also think the iranians might have made a mistake and they basically showed their hand too quickly to the europeans or most of the other member of the p five plus one and this is why there have been less forthcoming with sanctio

iran. we have seen this combined effort of our authorities and working with the international community, and i cannot overstate the importance of the -- the effect that we are able to generate when we have our international partners working with us, with the eu working with us, japan, south korea, australia, switzerland, i mean, you name it, we have a -- and the united nations as well. a very, very broad-based coalition of countries, not doing exactly the same thing, but all pushing in the same direction of applying pressure on iran really as part of this dual track strategy and, you know, the impact of that that we have seen particularly sort of through the fall of last year and into the spring of this year is, really, you know, a very significant deterioration in the iranian economy. the value of their currency that real has dropped like a rock, and that has, you know, significant impact on iran's ability to the, you know, pay for the material that it needs for its nuclear program and mor

has said the iran hasn't taken as iran the netanyahu government is engaging in demagoguery you know also the former head of my degen has said very clearly that iran hasn't taken that step but then sanctions need to be applied and iran i think they're having an effect we've seen some of the most frankly reactionary elements in the iranian regime people like causing this cd who is the i want to cry friday prayer leaders who actually link to the bad job of women in the rain and women too said quite frankly that sanctions need to be lifted i live in a bridge area the who is the head of the parliamentary commission of national security and foreign policy has also said that the sanctions need to be lifted and i also think there was this rumor which i jolly implored. cathy ashton saying that we need to basically need to lift sanctions or give us sanctions relief so i also think the iranians might have made a mistake and they basically showed their hand too quickly to the europeans and most of the other most of the p five plus one and this is why there have been less forthcoming with sancti

iran such a plan and iran rejected because his own factional sort of infighting now in the equation is changing obviously iran is continuing apace to expand its program program and i think the united states and i think the west in the members of the p five plus one have to some extent realize that i do think if the talks did break down there is going to be a splintering of the p five plus one because that for the united states unilaterally pursuit of sanctions i can't see either russia or china being very willing or accommodating to increase basically the pressure and tighten the screws even further even though it has clearly shown that he's very committed to their children policy which involves the application of sanctions will never lead showing a readiness for the carrots and sticks as if i can go to use it is this just a plan to fail did they do that does the west want this these talks to fail to show we went the extra mile away try and we tried to deal with them but you can't negotiate with the iranians the kind of the typical thing you hear in western media . i think no i think w

not the natural iran company. i think it's fair to say that we are going to be very skeptical about efforts to develop a alternative payment mechanisms premised on the fact that under iranian law, it says that all revenues earned by any government ministry have to be paid to this central bank of iran and the oil resources are owned by the national iranian oil company, so i think our presumption going in is that anyone buying oil from iran is ultima ultimately paying the central bank of iran for that oil even if there is some intermediate step along the way. so we are going to be quite skeptical of efforts to pay, purport to pay other than the central bank of iran for iranian oil. >> that's an important point because you're signalling a max mallist interpretation of the strictures and you're going to be looking at attempts to evade it. >> i don't know if it's max mallist or applying law, anyone who makes a knowing transaction with the central bank of iran for iranian oil is subject to sanctions. we have made clear

so if assad falls, that will be bad for iran. iran will be entirely isolated in the region. that seems to me to be a unique confluence of our moral interests and our national interests to isolate iran. how do we do it? well, those are the kind of things that get discussed ad nauseum in washington. i'll give you three short bullet points not involving boots on the ground in much the same way we helped nato in libya, which by the way did not involve a confruns have national and moral interests but just a moral interest that at the time seemed more attractive to the president than apparently the moral interest of syria at this moment. we can help organize the syrian opposition. we can stop talking about the syrian opposition as if they were crap. we can bring them together. we can help them create constitution, we can help them form a transitional government, we can form safe havens, we can protect safe havens, we can protect safety core douridors f people seeking to escape bombardment. those things aren't terribly difficult. do we run risks? yes. on the other hand, these are a

of iran and the axis that was built. between iran syria and hizbollah unholy alliance should i call it this is a very bad axis very dangerous axis. against our thinking thought the arab countries. in that respect this alliance between syria and iran is broken this is good for peace for better peace except if a more fundamentalist regime comes to power in syria. i don't know who comes next we have no influence on that. in prognostically we fully support somebody maybe it was the truman because the best thing for somebody you would be to we fight the jews so we are not taking part in that what about israeli egyptian relations particularly in light of the terminations of the gas deal to the egyptian israeli peace treaty that has been fined thirty two years ago instead of three years ago in seventy nine was the most important dramatic change in middle eastern history it changed at least from a very warlike zone to a much more stable and peaceful area so whoever is in power in egypt after next presidential election we very mu

of iran and the axis that was built. between iran syria and hizbollah unholy alliance so they call it this is a very bad axis very dangerous axis. against us against all the arab countries. in that respect this alliance between syria and iran is broken this is good for peace for better peace except for more fundamentalist regime comes to power in syria. i don't know who comes next we have no influence on that. in a productive way for support somebody maybe it was the treatment because the best thing for somebody would be to we fight the jews so we're not taking part in that what about israeli egyptian relations particularly in light of the terminations of the gas deal see the egyptian israeli peace treaty that has been fined thirty two years ago and is that the three years ago in seventy nine was the most important dramatic change in middle east history changed at least from a very warlike zone to a much more stable and peaceful area so whoever is in power in egypt after next presidential election we very much hope that

is prepared right now to use military force on iran if it needs to to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons that announcement comes on the heels of a series of meetings scheduled between iran and six world powers the united states france russia china britain and germany well the u.n. has already implemented four rounds of crippling sanctions against iran with another round set to go into effect this summer they're hoping to persuade iran to stop its uranium enrichment program entirely today's announcement seems to be another warning lights to iran that the u.s. and israel aren't messing around here to discuss this is lawrence wilkerson retired united states army colonel and a former chief of staff to colonel. colin powell excuse me colonel wilkerson thanks so much for being on the show and i guess i want to ask you i saw today's announcement sort of in two different ways i thought on one hand as being sort of a warning to iran on the heels of these talks and on the other hand of being sort of a nudge to israel by the way we're still your loyal friend how did you see this hope that's

iran. the sanctions are having an impact. but some iranian companies are finding ways to get around them. nhk world shows us how. >> reporter: one of the largest oil exhibitions in middle east was held in tehran in april. despite eminent new sanctions, iran remains bullish, as eager as ever to promote its abundant oil reserves. >> translator: iran has one of the world's largest reserves of oil and natural gas. we are ready to sign contracts with many foreign firms at the event. >> reporter: but moves to slap new sanctions on iran are making some of the exhibiters nervous. >> translator: we can't respond to interviews. it's our head office policy. >> reporter: the iranian economy is already feeling the effects of western sanctions. prices of goods, mainly imports, have more than doubled. >> translator: amid inflation, prices are soaring. it's really tough. >> reporter: for years, iran has secured shipping routes with its trading partners by using dubai located across the persian gulf as a tr

only one that is iran. if they choose to base the policy on the fact that the costs of acquisition of a weapon are prohibited, 2011-2012 there will be no war, no deal. this is a to 13 problem. and ultimately it will be a problem with the united states fundamentally is going to have to wrestle with. syria, the situation there will continue until two things occur. number one, the russians can be dissuaded from their policy of backing -- and there would be some fundamental change on the ground. right now you don't even have a hurting stalemate. you have a situation where the regime still controls the issuance of state power. the opposition will not break but neither can it cause the regime to break. now what to do about this. this of course is the great co-none drum. what do we do? here again i am a believer. in the united states determines that it is in its vital national interest to remove this regime, then it should act comprehensively and decisively in an effort to do it. if it does not believe it it is in

so obvious see disagreement in the israeli political when the issue of iran is of great importance i think that. if there is determination and resolve and persistence in the world that is interesting here we feel a very broad coalition unprecedented abroad all the arab world but syria. most of the west i believe other countries were russia was on it two years ago in the u.n. security council we think you have enough leverage all of us together to condition very dangerous behavior and higher price with every month that passes if you don't stop this. attempt to get nuclear but none of the rounds critics including israel have given hard facts that prove that iran's intention is to build a nuclear weapon or that it iran is in a way near building a nuclear weapon so why is this so much fear and concern first of all that iran wants to have a nuclear weapons we have no doubt i think that the international atomic energy agency in. published a report last november third of the head a weapons group the describe the weapons to approach worked why do we take it seriously they really do ship. the

so if assad falls, that will be bad for iran. iran will be entirely isolated in the region. that seems to me to be a unique confluence of our moral interests and our national interests to isolate iran. how do we do it? well, those are the kind of thing has get disgusted ad nauseum in washington. i'll give you three short bullet points not involving boots on the ground in much the same way we helped nato and libya which did not involve a confluence of national and moral interests, but just moral interests. we can help organize the syrian opposition. we can stop talking about the sear began opposition as if they were crap. we can bring them together. we can help them create constitution, we can help them form a transitional government, we can form safe haven, can he with protect safe hey rens, safety corridors. those things aren't terribly difficult. do we run risks? yes. on the other hand, these are all eminently doable things for the united states and if they weren't, by the way, you should be very worried because about we can't take on the syrian medical taker, i don't know

not speak on of war with iran i don't think that war is something one discusses in good families in public i think it's wrong the renin issue is the most important issue we're dealing with the nuclearization of iran becomes the most important issue of international politics we are. trying as much as we can with the rest of the world i would say to stop iran from becoming nuclear and yet today has been a lot of war with craig from much of israel's political leadership but on the other hand people like yourself have come on record and said that you will not support a war with iran so obvious see disagreement in the israeli political when the issue of iran is of great importance i think that. if there is determination. resource and persistence in the word that is interesting here we feel a very broad coalition unprecedentedly broad all the arab world but syria. most of the west i believe other countries will russia was on it two years ago in the un security council we i think have enough leverage all of us together to condition the rain's going to be heavier and higher price with every

is prepared right now to use military force on iran if it needs to to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons that announcement comes on the heels of a series of meetings scheduled between iran and six world powers the united states france russia china britain and germany well the u.n. has already implemented four rounds of crippling sanctions against iran with another round set to go into effect this summer they're hoping to persuade iran to stop its uranium enrichment program entirely today's announcement seems to be another warning lights to iran that the u.s. and israel aren't messing around here to discuss this is lawrence wilkerson retired united states army colonel and a former chief of staff to colonel. colin powell excuse me colonel wilkerson thanks so much for being on the show and i guess i want to ask you i thought today's announcement sort of in two different ways i thought on one hand as being sort of a warning to iran on the heels of these talks and on the other hand of being sort of a nudge to israel by the way we're still your loyal friends how did you see this but ho

iran was. ordered by the security council not to enrich and they go rushing along with the united states is building a missile defense shield in the persian gulf what would be the purpose of this if israel had to attack you when they want speak of an attack on iran israel and i'm not a spokesman for the american. the american defense establishment the american president but it's interesting that the americans and the arab countries are in full agreement about the development in iran and that it needs to be stopped israel preparing for any rain attack or some kind of way in retaliation needs to defend itself is never ask anybody to defend it is a living in area in which there were many enemies i think that we see very positive trend of arab countries leaving the camp of. denial negation and coming to the good guys came by presidents about signing peace with us king hussein of jordan saying peace the people who became buddhas after them kept the agreement we wish and hope it would be kept longer

oh, did they tell you it was going to iran? >> they said it was going to malaysian telekom. >> did that make any sense? >> yeah, actually it's a reasonable request. >> so she sold it for $95,000, and off it went to kuala lumpur. we know actually from the indictment of mr. kakavand that he had arranged for your product to be flown via iran air. >> [chuckling] >> right into tehran. do you know even know who the actual recipient of it was? >> in the indictments, there were two companies listed. one of them is-- does deal with electro-optical equipment. >> and also weapons of mass destruction. >> of course. >> that company is a subsidiary of iran electronics industries, a contractor that makes weapons and communication systems for the iranian military. seems like an open-and-shut case against kakavand, but it isn't. >> nowhere else in the world this is considered as a crime. nowhere else except in the united states. >> diane francois is kakavand's lawyer in paris, where he's fighting his extradition to the u.s. she explains that in

our next hour we discuss the tactics being used against another so-called rogue state out of iran the exclusive interview now with the deputy prime minister of israel. with me i have dan meridor the deputy israeli prime minister and minister of intelligence and atomic energy so thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. to be with you the million dollar question is israel preparing for war with iran the one thing we should not speak on of war with iran i don't think the word from the one discusses in good families in public i think it's wrong hearing an issue is the most important issue we're dealing with the nuclearization of iran becomes the most important issue of international politics we are. trying as much as we can with the rest of the world i would say to stop iran from becoming nuclear and yet there has been a lot of war with craig from much of israel's political leadership but on the other hand people like yourself have come on record and said that you will not support a war with iran so obvious see disagreement in the israeli political when the issue of iran is of grea

and that hurts iran and iran wants them stopped. but in general the powers are agreed on the tactics for now. there's always a risk they may come apart later but in the years of this six-power talks they've been able to agree on how to deal with each meeting and they certainly agree on their goal which is to try to ensuring that iran does not have a military nuclear program >> woodruff: steven erlanger with the "new york times," we thank you for taking time to talk with us. >> thank you. >> brown: margaret warner takes the story from there. >> warner: what to make of today's developments and the prospects for resolving the standoff over iran's nuclear program? for that, i'm joined by suzanne maloney, who dealt with iran issues at the u.s. state department in 2005 to 2007. she's now a senior fellow at the brookings institution. and seyed hossein mousavian, a former iranian diplomat. he was on the nuclear negotiating team that agreed to suspend enrichment in 2003-- a deal later repudiated by tehran. he charged with espionage in 2007,

trying as much as we can with the rest of the world there with her to stop iran from becoming nuclear and yet today has been a lot of war with craig much of israel's political leadership but on the other hand people like yourself have come on record and said that you will not support a war with iran so i always see disagreement in the israeli political when the issue of iran is of great importance i think that. if there is determination. resource and persistence in the word that is interesting here we feel a very broad coalition unprecedentedly broad all the arab world but syria. most of the west i believe other countries will russia was on it two years ago in the un security council we i think have enough leverage all of us together to condition the rain's going to be heavier and higher price with every month that passes if we don't stop this. attempt to get nuclear but none of the rands critics including as well have given hard facts that prove that iran's intention is to build a nuclear weapon or that it iran is in a way near building a nuclear weapon so why is this so much fear an

. ♪ [ticking] >> even though there's a total embargo in this country against any trade with iran, iran still gets high tech materials and components for a variety of weapons from right here in the u.s.a. this man set up a trading company in philadelphia. you are charged with trying to buy a centrifuge that could be used to make biological weapons, like anthrax. >> yes. that's what they say. >> do you know how much money you have? >> no. >> i mean, does 17 billion sound about right? he is the richest man in russia who just bought the worst team in the nba. but as you'll see, he's not like any other owner of a big time american sports franchise. he's an adrenaline junkie with a few unusual toys. >> see? [gun clicking] >> and he owes some of his fame and fortune to a bevy of party girls. >> frankly speaking, i like women. >> coal has made jim rogers and his company rich, and that's why we were surprised to hear what this power baron has to say about what coal does to the environment. you know, there are a lot of people, many of them in your industry, many people that you probably know, wh

here's what iran's president ahmadinejad said about sanctions to iran's parliament late last year. this is the guy who a year before had told the same audience that western sanctions were a hanky that he blows his nose in. this is -- he's not exactly a refined guy. but anyway, this is what he said much more recently. the west has imposed the most extensive and dastardly sanctions ever. every day our banking agreements and transactions are being monitored and blocked. this is the heaviest economic onslaught on a nation in history. that's ahmadinejad. now the purpose of this pressure is not punishment. it's not what we're trying to do. it is to convince iran that the price to be paid for pursuing a nuclear weapons capability is just too high and the time is now to make good on its commitment to the international community. but iran's leadership have no doubt about the resolve of the united states or about israel's sovereign right to defend itself. as the president has said, we take no options off the table. of course, iran's nuclear program is not the only regional issue that is of c

and iran than it is the europeans and the asian countries in iran. point two would be, i share elliot's -- let me just say one more thing. if anyone knows under secretary of state wendy sherman, they would know she is tough, she is very smart, and i think she is a perfect choice to lead these negotiations. the second point, i think the p-5 is a patio tension problem here. in two respects. one i share he will lots, and here's where i agree, doubt that president francois hollande was the steal in the p-5 plus one. china is a major problem. the letter of the law -- the security council resolutions, but they become iran's lead trade partner, subverting the sanctions on a de facto basis. the key country might be russia. russia does not. to see iran go nuclear, russia is closer geographically than anybody else. russia has influence. and i would hope that president obama would work with president putin to see if president putin could be a partner in trying to isolate the iranians and convince the iranians they've got to turn towards a diplomatic agreement o

to iran that the u.s. may be willing to use a terrorist group against iran sort of poisons the well for these negotiations that are supposed to be occurring in good faith and it really says to iran. how can the united states and its allies credibly urging iran to not support terrorist groups when it appears that we may be opening the door to openly supporting terrorist groups against iran and that was jim all of the policy policy director for the national iranian american council. and we turn now to the present capital of the world the state of louisiana has a higher prison rate than any other country take a listen. a look at these statistics that will really put things into perspective forty thousand inmates are one and eighty six louisianans are behind bars there's more than two thousand private prisons in the state and they hold more than half of louisiana's inmates private prisons are a one hundred eighty two million dollar industry there so as you can see in louisiana the prison industry is profitable

iran. have never let a foreign power determine. through invasion determine what the outcome is going to be now they do have experience with the united states having overthrown most deck and installed the shah. that set the stage for a very troubled period in dealing with iran the people of iran are very concerned when their nuclear scientists are sas unaided how does that happen who's doing it is this a decision is being made in high ranks of government. so we should forget about trying to conquer other countries that's an auld model that's old thinking from hundreds of years ago. we tried that in iraq it did not work we tried it in afghanistan it did not work we keep trying it we tried it in libya it does not work there people want us to try it in syria it will not work and it's not going to work in iran and the sooner that we understand that the better it is because then we look at what are our options what's interesting according to polls the majority of americans seven out of ten americ

>> guest: i was born in iran. my parents devoted everything they had to the education of their children. a semi from grade school through high school. i was raised part of my years in iran by catholic nuns. >> host: in french? >> guest: in french. we had a wonderful coeducational school. it was run by nuns. >> host: were your parents will be? >> guest: not excessively rich, but they were part of the upper-middle-class. >> host: would you consider your family to be a secular family or a devout family? >> guest: i would say life has opposites. divisions don't mean much to me. my parents, they were muslim. my mother was not a practicing muslim. she prayed, she tested. she fasted. i consider myself a staple of women's studies, and i would say my first teacher was my mother. >> host: when did you come to see the united states? where did you go to university? >> guest: i arrived in the united states of america on december 17, 1967. i went to cal state in california where i earned a bachelor's degree of arts in french li

is prepared right now to use military force on iran if it needs to to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons that announcement comes on the heels of a series of meetings scheduled between iran and six world powers united states france russia china britain and germany well the u.n. has already implemented four rounds of crippling sanctions against iran with another round set to go into effect this summer they're hoping to persuade iran to stop its uranium enrichment program entirely today's announcement seems to be another warning lights to iran that the u.s. and israel aren't messing around here to discuss this is lawrence wilkerson retired united states army colonel and a former chief of staff to colonel. colin powell excuse me colonel wilkerson thanks so much for being on the show and i guess i want to ask you i thought today's announcement sort of in two different ways i thought on one hand as being sort of a warning to iran on the heels of these talks and on the other hand of being sort of a nudge to israel by the way we're still your loyal friend how did you see this hope that's

a threat from iran. with that i would be glad to this yield you some time. >> you need not turn this into a personal situation. now with regard to the east koes. we both know it would take a missile from iran, which is the only reason for this. it's clear they cannot be defended against by the system. it doesn't work for that threat. does iran have an icbm? no, they don't. it's not in process. does north korea have one that works? does iran have a war head to present a threat to us? no, they don't. they will not, and i would assume should he not be president next year, the next president would also say the same thing. no, they will not have one. i'm assuming that you would argue against closure of the missile defense site that's within 300 miles of your district. i similarly think that people on the east coast believe that we should have a ro bust protection as we look to iran and the emerging threat. i hope people will not support the president's perhaps secret deal to diminish the defense capability. t

that set the stage for a very troubled period in dealing with iran the people of iran are very concerned when their nuclear scientists are sas unaided how does that happen who's doing it is this a decision is being made in high ranks of government. so we should forget about trying to conquer other countries that's an old model that's old thinking from hundreds of years ago. we tried that in iraq it did not work we tried it in afghanistan it did not work we keep trying it we tried it in libya it does not work there people want us to try it in syria it will not work and it's not going to work in iran and the sooner that we understand that the better it is because then we look at what are our options what's interesting according to polls the majority of americans seven out of ten americans said yes to diplomacy with iran to the lawmakers hear their voices every member of congress has improved hearing when we get close to an election so. if we're far away from an election it sometimes becomes more difficult to hear. and there are other voices. the voices of other interest groups of the voice

i think it makes clear what iran's position is. and, i think it torques up the position, that we'll give away more and legitimize more of iran's nuclear program. and, from mahmoud ahmadinejad's point, why not? it has always worked in the past and perhaps he opens it will work this time. >> eric: and, when they start the meetings tomorrow in vienna, it may not be working? >> i'm afraid for some including the obama administration it will not get through. in the media today there are stories written by commentators and others basically describing, this is a done deal. the iranians are going to given their enrichment to 20% of the u-235 isotope, done at the fordo facility and will shim the 20% uranium out of the country and basically everything is done, what could go wrong? i think in that atmosphere, what he is doing is saying, if i can get that far, without making any concessions, if i raise the temperature maybe i can get even more. >> eric: and, there are 60 scientists working and there are claims the iranians cleaned up the parchi

that set the stage for a very troubled period in dealing with iran the people of iran are very concerned when their nuclear scientists are sas unaided how does that happen who's doing it is this a decision is being made in high ranks of government. so we should forget about trying to conquer other countries that's an auld model that's old thinking from hundreds of years ago. we tried that in iraq it did not work we tried it in afghanistan it did not work we keep trying it we tried it in libya it does not work there people want us to try it in syria it will not work and it's not going to work in iran and the sooner that we understand that the better it is because then we look at what are our options what's interesting according to polls the majority of americans seven out of ten americans said yes to diplomacy with iran to the lawmakers hear their voices every member of congress has improved hearing when we get close to an election so. if we're far away from an election it sometimes becomes more difficult to hear. and there are other voices. the voices of other interest groups or the voic

to iran that the u.s. may be willing to use a terrorist group against iran sort of poisons the well for these negotiations that are supposed to be occurring in good faith and it really says to iran you know how can the united states and its allies credibly urge iran to not support terrorist groups when it appears that we may be opening the door to openly supporting terrorist groups against iran and iran sees this as another example of the u.s. possibly or ultimately pushing for regime change is that the case and why i think that the supporters of the in the make itself actually that's that's that's the. stated goal which is really unfortunate because this is not a democratic organization they function as a colt they don't have democratic values as far as the administration's view i think what this really is is a deal that they're making with the m.e. k. in order to facilitate the safe transfer of any k. members out of this camp in iraq to a different location because the iraqis don't want to be there and h

oil back and forth between iran and china or iran and india and now how are our china and india going to respond to a u.s. blockade of iran it it's not going to make the us any friends and i think eventually the writing is going on the wall is going to be so clear for all to read that the u.s. will either have to back down or risk a very large shift away from the dollar as the global reserve currency as the global currency for the oil trade really solely for we will come to a head eventually and exactly how it would be resolved i don't know but will there be a role and get all of that and i'll get to sure you that the role of the dollar will be diminished relative to the role today and just a couple seconds here but do you think the role of gold and the scenario that we see playing out with iran and these countries in trade. what's happening is the world is becoming more multi-polar the us share of the global economy has been declining for years the bric share has been increasing you reach a point where the size of the u.s. economy the u.s. is share of global trade is just too small t

which is iran. no bigger priority for ajc preventing iran from obtaining nuclear weapons availability, how do you judge the president's record on this matter and how would a republican approach differ? let me start with you, bill. >> last word is always better. >> you are being so nice. >> a question of friends. i think there has been a great deal of continuity here. with regard to -- the iranian and north korean situations. it is very frustrating. and you know, one of the things that we, one of great frustrations to me is that -- we tend to be self-critical in america, we should be, and the unwillingness of russia and china to be more supportive of efforts to block nuclear weapons. i don't fully understand it. if i was russia living next door to iran the notion of some of these craze xwrem havipeople ha nuclear weapons would make me more nervous. that is a frustration. and constraint on our approximately see that we have to deal with. given that, i believe that what we have been doing is, is, the b

this missile defense is presumably to deal with iran. iran does not have an icbm now. there is considerable question as to whether they could or would produce some. and if they were, they would have to have a nuclear weapon, unless they're going to deliver marshmallows to the east coast. so we need to be very careful how we spend our money. it's been very, very clear from this administration that iran will not be able to build a nuclear weapon. so they don't have a weapon, and they don't have a missile. so why are we spending at least $5 billion on a system that in and of itself is questionable? clearly, if we're going to spend money, we ought to make sure the technology works. some questions about whether this technology would work against a sophisticated icbm. the indication it does not work against a sophisticated ibm that has multiple warheads an multiple decoy. we need to get the technology right before we spend the money. my amendment would say we can move forward with some planning, and that's it. but the decision about deploying a missile defense system on the

we can do it these of the iran for the middle east. >> for those -- vis-a-vis iran for the middle east. >> for those who are clamoring to go to war with iran to prevent them, you say no. >> it could destabilize the entire region. it is extremely costly for us. a war with iran, just think, could we really extricate ourselves from afghanistan? they have a lot of panic ability into afghanistan, the iranians. they share a border -- they have a lot about availability into afghanistan, the iranians. they share a border. >> what do you think is going to happen with iraq and iran? >> it will take time to stabilize itself, iraq, because we have done a lot of damage to it. we kind of destroyed the fun doesn't -- fundamental sense of iraqi nationalism, and as a result, more specific ethnic and religious differences. >> could it be a federation of the kurds and the sunnis and shiites? >> in the ideal, yes. but in the meantime, there's so much tension and rivalry between the different elements that it could be very easily destabilized. this is why an israeli war with iran would be so damaging to us

iran would suspend its enrichment. that would be a very strong indication that iran was serious. i doubt that iran will agree to that. third, and i think steve is right to be concerned. where is the potential deal here between 0 and 3.5? will iran be willing to agree to intrusive 24/7 iaea inspections? they haven't been? iaea inspectors haven't been in the plant, the one that president obama revealed publicly in autumn of 2009, and iran has been playing fast and loose. i think the administration is going to play on all three of the counts, i think. how much they'll get is uncertain. >> i would just add, i think the inspection point is important. it looks as if the iranians are going to give up on keeping the iaea out, because there is indication they're cleaning the place up. but intrusive inspections, signing additional protocol would be key signs that iran is actually stopping. >> let me understand one point. there is no doubt in my mind there is a difference between doing a whole deal and an interim step. one of the reasons you would still accept an interim step is because the

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oil sanctions which are by far the toughest sanctions against iran at this point i think what iran is calculating here is that this is the right time to try to strike a deal with the united states in particular knowing of course the united states is the primary actor here and that the europeans are responsive primarily to the lead taken by the united states and so from their point of view the timing is right they certainly don't want to go on necessarily with the oil sanctions going into effect fully after the middle of this year. they obviously have an interest in trying to prevent that of possible but they also know that there are some very serious political obstacles domestically in the united states to the u.s. coming forward with a plan that's going to work with us go back to the comments made by america's ambassador those comments were made on israeli army radio now of course israel had previously hinted that it may be able to go ahead with a preemptive strike on iran at some point it's been talked about for a long time all we where we are the moment any closer to that happening

that iran rejected a couple of years ago. i think because the europeans and the obama administration understand that patience is wearing thin in israel, and, that this pretext that negotiation is actually bringing us closer to a real solution, a real solution being the end of the iranian nuclear weapons program is just not sustainable. >> eric: prime minister netanyahu says he doesn't think iran is serious and let's look at the remarks of the u.s. ambassador to israel who made these remarks last tuesday, dan shapiro said the following, addressing a business group in israel and he said: it would be preferable to resolve this diplomatically and through the use of pressure rather than use of military force but that doesn't mean that option is not fully available. and it's not just available, but it is ready. the necessary planning has been done to ensure that it is ready. what do you make of this, the u.s. ambassador says everything is ready for potential military strike. >> two things. one, our military has plans for almost eve

can iran release which the internet on and off at will? this reporter thinks the plan places limits of what is technically possible. >> the iranians want certain organizations that do business abroad like banks, for example, to keep their internet access, to retain their link to the outside world, and to discriminate between groups that are not allowed access and groups that are is an enormous challenge in terms of technology. >> three years ago, the internet gave the world a window on iran's green revolution. for most outsiders, it was their first chance to assess the full scale of popular discontent, but will iran's internet silence dissident voices? loggers -- bloggers said it will not. >> people will find a way to put together shadow social networks, which are not visible from the surface. i am very optimistic theory the whole thing is the government tries to do things, and the people, the millions of people, find a way to do their own thing and fight their own causes, and i think that is amazing. >> bloggers vs irans cyber police -- t