now kathleen sebelius is facing similar attacks. she is featured tomorrow at an awards ceremony at georgetown university at the public policy institute at the invitation of the students. the archdiocese calls her work on the affordable care act the most direct challenge to religious liberty in recent history. despite the criticism, a columnist from the "washington post" from the brookings institution and tenured professor at georgetown where kathleen sebelius is speaking tomorrow. she will speak, right? >> yes. >> at the invitation of the students. >> it was the students' idea. we always have a committee of students who make this decision. she is perfectly typical of the speakers we have. >> you had paul ryan a couple weeks ago. >> the most important lecture is named after someone who died in 9/11, a faculty member. he gave that lecture a few weeks ago. one of the things i note, i was one of the people on the faculty who signed the letter disagreeing with congressman ryan. didn't want him to speak? >> the first words of the letter w

now kathleen sebelius is facing similar attacks. she is featured tomorrow at georgetown yurt at their public policy institute, at the invitation of the students. they call her work on the affordable care act the most direct challenge to religious liberty in recent history. but jack dejoyus supports columnist from the "washington post" from the brookings institution and tenured professor at georgetown where kathleen sebelius is speaking tomorrow. she will speak, right? >> yes. >> at the invitation of the students. >> it was the students' idea. we always have a committee of students who make this decision. she is perfectly typical of the speakers we have. >> you had paul ryan a couple weeks ago. >> the most important lecture is named after someone who died in 9/11, a faculty member. he gave that lecture a few weeks ago. one of the things i note, i was one of the people on the faculty who signed the letter disagreeing with congressman ryan. knew didn't want him to speak? >> the first words of the letter was welcome to georgetown. i wou

i served at that time, governor kathleen sebelius did as well. we found out that despite the mandates there are times when you can actually improve care and do a better job and not have to spend more money. that's called regulatory flexibility. it does occur. the reality is there is waste and fraud and abuse and there's a better way of doing thing than the centers of medicare and medicaid suggest. she said at the time there's a war between medicaid services and states around the country. there's a war. this is coming from the current hhs secretary when she was governor, and all i ask here is pass the rhetoric. let's get down to the reality of what occurs. medicaid is a program that should be administered and run by the states, by people that are closest to those in need, and that's what this program will do for us with the changes in this budget. we don't need 50 different -- 50 -- we have 50 different states. we have 50 different education policies and transportation policies, but somehow we have to have the same policy for medicaid, and i think

some students have invited health and huge services secretary kathleen sebelius to talk at their diploma ceremony. sticking up for dr. tiller the late term abortionist in kansas who was assassinated. author of the new book a faith of our own which exploits how christianity is attempting to influence american culture and politics and fox news religious father jonathan morris the author of the book "god wants you to be happy." so, sebelius, you know her, right? what coonk of her at georgetown. >> students invited her to come, which is true. students don't run the university. in this case it's the jesuits and the board of the university that runs the university. what they are during by inviting the architect and the person implementing the hhs mandate requiring religious institutions to provide abort and contraceptions. they are taking their finger and sticking it in the eyes of the bishop. >> bill: previous segment about the judge and the 10 commandments. you say that the hierarchy who runs georgetown should have said sorry, all right, this is inappropriate. but you have got to remember th

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sebelius just to georgetown university's of 2012. point, that speech was interrupted by anti-abortion protesters. >> i was really delighted to be invited to speak to you, public graduates. having spent my entire live in service -- >> abortion is murder. >> the protesters were quickly escorted out of the room. ,> hold onto your idealism complacency, take chances, and engage thoughtfully with the difficult challenges of time. you will succeed, and through you, we will succeed. >> the controversy with the church after kathleen sebelius play in major role in employers to provide coverage despite beliefs. georgetown is a jesuit university. >> the air show happens this for interes. -- at fort andrews. >> we are moments away from seeing the parachute team comes sky.from the it is the beginning of all the excitement and attractions we weekend.e over the >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome -- >> it is the weekend filled with high-flying twists and turns. show at joint drews.n there is plenty for all to see weekend.t the year's event featu

some students have invited health and huge services secretary kathleen sebelius to talk at their diploma ceremony. sticking up for dr. tiller the late term abortionist in kansas who was assassinated. author of the new book a faith of our own which exploits how christianity is attempting to influence american culture and politics and fox news religious father jonathan morris the author of the book "god wants you to be happy." so, sebelius, you know her, right? what coonk of her at georgetown. >> students invited her to come, which is true. students don't run the university. in this case it's the jesuits and the board of the university that runs the university. what they are during by inviting the architect and the person implementing the hhs mandate requiring religious institutions to provide abort and contraceptions. they are taking their finger and sticking it in the eyes of the bishop. >> bill: previous segment about the judge and the 10 commandments. you say that the hierarchy who runs georgetown should have said sorry, all right, this is inappropriate. but you have got to remember th

in other words, it's impossible to be more pro-aworse than kathleen -- abortion than kathleen sebelius. megyn: we did do research, and be certainly he was a contributor to her campaign, and she did veto a lot of legislation that would have restricted certain abortions including even in the third term of pregnancy, so she is, obviously, not a pro-life person. and that's, you know, one of the reasons i'm sure president obama put her in that position, because he is a pro-choice president. your point is that's all well and good, but what is she doing speaking at a catholic university? >> that's just it. they knew this all along, they know exactly what her status is, and she's being rewarded. i've had this debate with catholics on the left all the time. the catholic church regards racism to be evil. i would condemn them if they brought a rayist to speak -- racist in to speak at any of their catholic exercises. that's why they will not condemn, they will never condemn a pro-abortion catholic from speaking at a catholic university because in their hearts they're not really opposed to abortion

. >> georgetown university, kathleen sebelius and the catholic bishops. >> what they are saying is not consistent with what they say, and it is shocking they would've and in reality. >> she is obviously a very qualified, intelligent woman. i think her political views should not be a reason not to have her speak. >> kathleen sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, has been invited to speak and an awards ceremony at georgetown university, a catholic university. the bishops are not happy about it, mark. >> the bishops are post, -- o pposed, a, to the obama healthcare plan, the affordable care act, and to the provisions that would provide contraception coverage. at the same time, what seems to be overlooked is that it does bring health care to those with disabilities, those without health insurance, children, the elderly, the destitute. that seems to have been missed in debate. >> sebelius is pro-choice. >> absolutely, but this is the university. a university is supposed to have a wide diversity of views. she is not getting an honorary degree. god bless the president of the u

health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius has been invited to speak at georgetown university this weekend but the invitation is sparking some debate about contraception and religious freedom. karen gray houston has more on this. >> reporter: georgetown is the nation's oldest catholic and jesuit university. the question being raised is whether the school had you had play host for a speaker responsible for a public policy that provides payment for birth control. >> personally, i think georgetown has a tradition of having both sides of any issue being heard whether or not it is in line with catholic values or not. >> reporter: besides, it was a student group that invitedded kathleen sebelius to speak at the public policy institute awards ceremony. >> that is i aposition that oversees some of the largest government programs and some of the largest budgets and that is directly relevant to the things that we are interested in. >> reporter: it is the u.s. conference of catholic bishops waging the campaign. >> we didn't ask for this tight. we like to get along and we like to cooperat

it would look to me, it looks to me like for kathleen sebelius and others that value is limited. it's small and dispensable. here's where i would remark upon the apparent casualness with which the administration adopted -- not the mandate as much but the exception. the very, very narrow exception such that it excludes all of these religious institutions. i'm not even sure it excludes churches but i may come back to that. but it seems to me that the exemption reflects the view that these organizations, catholic hospitals, et cetera, have value to the people who are operating them religious value because it adds a religious motivation for them. and it has a religious satisfaction for them. but these are private delights. and so far so good you might say from the view of the public square but that's just private. it seems the value of these institutions lies entirely with their efficient delivery of secular services. that the hospitals are doing a good job healing people or the catholic grade cools have good test scores. then so much the better. but that's pretty much it. the basic

. >> taking a look at the day ahead, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius delivers a speech to georgetown's class of 2012 amid a firestorm of criticism. the archdiocese of washington and other religious groups objected to the selection by the catholic university because of her work in support of president obama's health care overhaul and employer coverage of contraception. >> still ahead, catching up with new redskins quarterback robert griffin and his special gift to tonight show host jay leno. >> and a preview of this weekend's annual air show at joint base andrews. >> is another perfect day, a beautiful friday. i will be back to talk >> d.c. schools, after-school programs, we are thrilled to present the 2012 d.c. schools jamboree. >> good morning, washington. >> good morning, d.c. schools. is 6:11, traffic and weather every ten minutes. >> they have greater energy in the morning. it's check in with adam caskey. >> they came to the weather center about a week ago today. a great group of kids. a live look from arlington on top of washington-lee high school, a beautif

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kathleen sebelius speaks today at georgetown, go. >> having spent my entire life. [shouting] >> [crowd booing] [shouting] child killing. >> bill: they are mad because sebelius is a very proabortion person. even vetoing a bill that would have prevented late term abortions in kansas. that's how extreme she is. and she is invited to georgetown university, a jesuit college. it's just inexplicable. dumb, yes, and a lot of other things. thank you very much, guys. pinheads and patriots up next featuring me on the rachael ray program today. boy, was she surprised. p and p just over two minutes away. bill. >> if you get into the pony and the mashed potato, it's all over. i can do the twist. >> can i do the "saturday night fever" deal, too. vitwo things to say. number 1; rachel ray read "killing lincoln" and she is very busy. it was a very smooth ride over there. so she and all the people who work with her are patriots. that's it for us tonight. check out the fox news factor web site, different from bill o'reilly.com. we would like to you spout off about the factor. anywhere

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first of all, kathleen sebelius is the former governor of kansas. she is catholic and she was in charge of the policy and addressing the policy once it became so controversial. what is the political impact of what happened at georgetown? we should point out georgetown's president john edejoya is the same university president who supported sandra fluke when she was attacked over that whole issue earlier in the month or earlier in the spring. >> you know, we've seen catholic political leaders have controversies like this before. remember with john kerry when he was running for president and the issue of whether he would be able to receive communion. it's a reminder we've got to return this year of the culture wars and the reason that could be important is, there's a group of voters, white, catholic who's tend to live in plays like ohio that we know is going to be a key state. they might be democratic on their economic leanings, but concerned about some of these social issues. so this could possibly hurt the president i think with those voters. you kno

. >> kathleen sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, has been invited to t a ton university, and the bishops are not happy about that, mark. why not? >> the bishops are opposed, a, to the affordable care act, and to the provision that would providfor ntraception coverage. at the same time, what seems to be overlooked is that this brings health care to those with disabilities, those without health insurance, and children, the elderly, destitute. that seems to have been missed in the debate. >> sebelius is also pro-choice. >> absolutely. but this is a university and universities are supposed to have a diversity of ews. god bless the president of the university, who has stood up for the principal. the catholic church can do whatever it wants. it is a jesuit institution, but if it wants to be respected university, it cannot be shutting out people because they don't agree with them all the time. >> secretary sebelius has spoken at howard university, george washington university, this would not be an issue at all. this is a catholic university. it is between the cardinals and the

-- kathleen sebelius spoke to them. the antiabortion protestor interrupted her speech screaming judas. the demonstrator argued that georgetown violated catholic doctrine by inviting sebelius to speak to a graduating class. she supports abortion rights and contraception coverage. she quoted president kennedy's views on church and state. >> kennedy talked about his legion of religion in the public square, and he said he believed in an america and i, quote, where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populous or the public acts of its officials. >> georgetown said the school invites a wide variety of speakers and she was chosen by students in the school's public policy snout. >>> and some of the most powerful people in the world in maryland tonight. the president is hosting the largest group of people. the global economy talks all agendas and the president is talking about the importance of feeding the world's hungry. jennifer davis has details. >> reporter: leading the charge t

please, join me in welcoming the secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. thank you. [applause] thank you, thank you. [applause] if you think that counts for your exercise for today -- [laughter] it momentum -- doesn't. dean montgomery, members of the faculty, family, friends, graduates, to-be-announced award winners, the student leaders and, again, the graduates, it really is my honor to be with you this morning, and i want to start by saying congratulations. last weekend on mother's day i was at the university of kansas when our younger son received his master's degree, so i know something about the hard work that all of you have been doing and the effort that got you here today. and i also have long and strong ties to this school. i married a georgetown law grad. i'm a hoya mom, the mother of a double georgetown graduate. so in my family, hoya comes second only to rock chock jayhawk. [laughter] and i was really delighted to be invited to speak to you, the public policy graduates. having spent my entire life i

life, religious liberty being two among them and here kathleen sebelius not only fought for abortion rights, but is the chief architect and the one implement can this hhs mandate that the bishop has said has been the most outrageous attack on religious liberty in recent history. so coming to speak it would be fine i'm sure with the bishop if she came to speak in a debate. that's what universitied are for. but coming to speak at a commencement activity or event is obviously an award. bill: so the school says, we need to have this discussion. there's nothing wrong with that. we can debate these issues. but why would the school invite her? what is in it for the school? >> it's a great question. there must be a reason. they are not inviting her to debate. they are not having her to a discussion. they have given two explanations that don't pass the gable test and are childish. number one, we don't support necessarily her beliefs. hmm ... you are going to invite her as a commencement speaker? two, the kids made us do it. they actually said that. they said the students wanted her to come. t

to prevent georgetown university from having hhs secretary kathleen sebelius as the school's commencement speaker because of her role in implementing the president's health komplg for contraception. joining me is gail lemon. first of all, this whole controversy over a au commencement speaker. the president of georgetown is standing birm. he also issued a very strong support of sandra fluke when that controversy emerged that kathleen sebelius should be the commencement speaker. again, engaging on this whole question of contraception and what will women should have access to. >> right, and this whole question about the war on women and women at the center of the campaign is not going away. you know, it depends on which way you frame it. some people are framing it as reproductive freedom and some as religious freedom. the white house wants women's votes. the obama campaign is focused on women. we saw the barnard speech monday, "the view" on monday, the life of julia be the week before. i think this whole discussion cuts both ways because in some ways are you going to a yinnate people who wou

. >>> today health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius will address the public policy institute. everything is expected to move forward as planned despite objections from the catholic archdiocese. it says that she is an inappropriate choice for the jesuit school. sebelius played a role in the birth control rule that mandates all employers provide employees with contraception coverage. >>> students in frederick county, maryland, have the day off today. schools are closed ahead of this weekend's g-8 summit. it begins this evening at nearby camp david. greece's financial crisis will likely dominate the meeting. >>> and the summit will close -- will be closed to the public. protesters are organizing rallies and demonstrations in frederick. occupy frederick has several protests planned. the protesters are also planning a so-called people's summit there. another group calling itself the one campaign plans to paint the roads leading to camp david with tweets from its supporters. >>> police in western maryland say they are prepared for the protests. they say they're also prepared to fig

it would look to me -- it looks to me like kathleen sebelius and others that that value is limited. it's small and defensible. here's where i would remark upon the apparent casualness with which the administration adopted -- not the mandate as such, but the exemption, the very, very narrow exemption, it excludes all of these religious institutions. i'm not even sure it excludes churches, but i may come back to that. but it seems to me that the exemption reflects the view that these organizations catholic hospitals, etc., have value to the people who are operating them, religious value, because it adds a kind of religious motivation for them. it has a kind of religious satisfaction for them. so far, so good you might say from the view of the public square, but that's just private. now, from the public square, it seems to me that the value of these institutions lies entirely with their efficient delivery of secular services. that the hospitals are doing a good job healing people or the catholic -- kids in the grade schools, then so much the better. but that's pretty much it. the basic

the feud is over graduation speaker kathleen sebelius. the health and human services secretary played a key role in the new birth control mandate that employers including most religious ones provide employees with contraception coverage. on monday, the president of georgetown said the archdiocese was upset with sebelius over the birth control controversy. the archdiocese says that the president is missing the point. the real concern here is violating religious freedom and issued a statement saying, "the selection of a featured speaker whose actions as a public official present the most direct challenge to religious liberty in recent history, the fundamental issue with health and human services secretary mandate is not about contraception." >>> a small catholic college in ohio says it's dropping health insurance coverage for students. the franciscan university of stubenville says it does not want to comply with the federal mandate that the plan provide free birth control. the school issued a statement saying the rule violates the consisten

kathleen sebelius says she believes the administration struck the right balance between religious rights and human rights. watch this extraordinary exchange. >> congressman, i'm not a lawyer and i don't pretend to understand the nuances of the constitutional balancing tests. if you are talking about the preventative services. >> you would agree it's a legal issue. the last time i was in the supreme court i think you and i were there the same day during the oral argument. this mandate is going to wind up in the supreme court. to me it is -- we talk about the politics all we want to, i want to talk about the law. i want to talk about balancing religious liberty with whatever else you think it's appropriate to balance it with because you used the word "balance." which of those three tests is the appropriate test for to us use when considering religious liberty? >> again, congressman, i'm not going to wade into constitutional law. i'm talking about the fact that we are implementing the law that was passed by the congress and signed by the president which direct our department to develop a pa

it may not be a warm welcome for kathleen sebelius. set to deliver a commencement speech at georgetown. catholics are upset because she helped shape the federal contraceptive mandate and it's being called the ring of fire, total eclipse of the sun expected to happen this sunday. the best views texas to california. just don't look directly at it. it will hurt your retina. gretch? >> gretchen: never before seen evidence in the case surrounding trayvon mart machine florida has gone public. so how will this affect the case? here to break it all down, peter johnson, jr. good morning to you. we see a couple new piece of evidence. this surveillance video of trayvon martin, the teenger in a 7-11 buying skittles and something else before this attack happened. and now we're seeing more injuries and information about george zimmerman. >> you're right. this is interesting and revealing. we now know that trayvon martin had trace amounts of thc, which is the active ingredients in cannabis, marijuana, in his system. we also know that there is a witne

sebelius' speech to some georgetown university grads today. >> judas! >> the demonstrators were upset that georgetown violated catholic doctrine by inviting sebelius to speak to a graduating class. she supports abortion rights and contraception coverage. during her speech sebelius quoted president kennedy's views on church and state. >> kennedy talked about his vision of religion and the public square and he said he believed in an america and i quote, "where no religion body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populous or the public acts of its officials." >> georgetown says the school invites a wide variety of speakers and students in the schools public policy institute chose sebelius. >>> a man who stabbed 14 people killing five of them knew what he was doing according to mental health experts. laura evans is everywhere at 11:00. >> elias abuelazam had a lack of empathy for his alleged victims. jurors have heard all the evidence of abuelazam charged with a 49-year-old in the summer of 2010. he tried to flee israel because

that is to say having kathleen sebelius speak. what do you make of it? >> another one of those things that just -- so many people on both sides of this issue. paul ryan got demagogued for speaking there, and now this comes up. you know, i mean, rick made a point of this during the campaign, that this is -- it's not an issue about contraception, it's forcing a religious institution to do something that was outside the scope of their belief and it's fine if they want to protest sebelius, if they want to protest ryan, i just don't know that it matters all that much. >> something to be said for opposing viewpoints and at least hearing the other side. >> a university. >> it's a great university. >> apparently the students chose sebelius. i think it's clear whether it's georgetown under president dejoya or notre dame under father jenkins are clearly inserting themselves into this debate. and they want to be part of it. because catholics are facing a huge identity crisis right now. voting for president obama by 56% when right to life issues are central to their

sebelius to speak at an awards ceremony. sebelius is the architect of the provision implying employers to offer insurance that includes access to contraceptives and birth control. the washington archdiocese says the health care law stumps on religious freedom because it doesn't allow catholic institution to be exempt from the birth control mandate. it is a challenge to the bishops. >> what do you say to that? >> i think the administration at georgetown has done a good job at standing up for the students and i think they're being supportive of the student body. >> reporter: she says her group, the school's public policy institute only want sebelius to talk about the public service and not about the mandate or con stra sepgz. none of the top officials could go on camera with us. john dejoya said -- it is committed to the free exchange of ideas. >> while firmly entrenched in this controversy, georgetown university has become a symbol of the broader political battle between the kcatholic church an the obama administration. >> re