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[ laughter ] >> stephanie: it's jon huntsman sr., right harry? [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> harry reid as a respect source, who could have had that much information, john huntsman's dad sounds like the source. if anyone knows the machinations that bain took it would be the guy in charge of the finances. >> i -- i guess my favorite part of all of this is that nobody is letting up. and it's fun to speculate who it might be, but i stand by my assertion that reid would not go out with this if he didn't have somebody he thought was really credible. and i don't know if you saw the new ad that the obama campaign has out that is attacking mitt romney with his time with marriott international. >> stephanie: yeah. >> they engaged in this really shady tax-avoidance scheme, and romney was there and present when that took place. but in terms of that all ad they are talking about how much did he pay? >> stephanie: yeah yesterday we did the italian thing where bain ripped the italians off. and then the el salvadorian death squads. jon huntsman, sr., we'll call h

that guy, it turns out, was the jon huntsman major announcement. the big deal in florida a year ago today was that jon huntsman locked up the endorsement of bush. not that one -- actually, not that one either. nope. nope. try again. one more. yes, that one. jeb bush jr. the promised major announcement from the jon huntsman for president campaign was an endorsement by george w. bush's brother's son, who has never held public office, and that is called defining down the term "major announcement." then a short while later in the campaign, it happened again. rick santorum promises big announcement on friday. rick santorum's campaign released a statement promoting a major campaign announcement on friday at 6:00 p.m. okay, setting the tone for the weekend of coverage. here we go, friday at 6:00 p.m., be there or miss out on a big announcement in the republican presidential campaign. here's how we covered the anticipation of the big announcement the night before it was to happen. >> rick santorum, bless him, said today he would have a big announcement tom

that guy was the jon huntsman major announcement. the big deal in florida a year ago today was that jon huntsman locked up the endorsement of bush. not that one. actually not that one either. nope. try again. yes. that one. jeb bush jr. the promised major announcement from the jon hunts for for president campaign was george w. bush's brother's son who never held public office. that is called defining down the term major announcement. a short while later it happened again. rick santorum promises big announcement on friday. his campaign released a statement promoting a big announcement on friday at 6:00 p.m. setting the tone for the whole weekend of coverage. here we go. friday at 6:00 be there or miss out on a major announcement. here's how we covered the anticipation of that announcement the night before it was due to happen. rick santorum, bless him, said he will have a big announcement tomorrow in iowa. there no indication that is the big announcement is that he is quitting, but it's never a good sign when you say you are having a

at that point jon huntsman's campaign was not a joke. he was still seen as a potential contender in the race. political reporters flocked to florida where this major announcement was set to take place, and then this was it. >> people like jon huntsman, i believe, are the best person for the job. to begin with i would say that his resume and experience, in my opinion, is just far better than any other candidates in the race. >> who's that guy? that guy, it turns out, was the jon huntsman major announcement. the big deal in florida a year ago today was that jon huntsman locked up the endorsement of bush. not that one. actually not that one either. nope. try again. one more. yes, that one. jeb bush jr. the promised major announcement from the jon huntsman for president campaign was announced by george w. bush's brother's son who has never held public office. that is called defining down the term "major announcement." a short while later it happened again. rick santorum promises big announcement on friday. his campaign released a statement p

that guy, it turns out, was the jon huntsman major announcement. the big deal in florida a year ago today was that jon huntsman locked up the endorsement of bush. not that one -- actually, not that one either. nope. nope. try again. one more. yes, that one. jeb bush jr. the promised major announcement from the jon huntsman for president campaign was an endorsement by george w. bush's brother's son, who has never held public office, and that is called defining down the term "major announcement." then a short while later in the campaign, it happened again. rick santorum promises big announcement on friday. rick santorum's campaign released a statement promoting a major campaign announcement on friday at 6:00 p.m. okay, setting the tone for the weekend of coverage. here we go, friday at 6:00 p.m., be there or miss out on a big announcement in the republican presidential campaign.

at that point jon huntsman's campaign was not a joke. he was still seen as a potential contender in the race. political reporters flocked to florida where this major announcement was set to take place, and then this was it. >> people like jon huntsman, i believe, are the best person for the job. to begin with i would say that his resume and experience, in my opinion, is just far better than any other candidates in the race. >> who's that guy? that guy, it turns out, was the jon huntsman major announcement. the big deal in florida a year ago today was that jon huntsman locked up the endorsement of bush. not that one. actually not that one either. nope. try again. one more. yes, that one. jeb bush jr. the promised major announcement from the jon huntsman for president campaign was announced by george w. bush's brother's son who has never held public office. that is called defining down the term "major announcement." a short while later it happened again. rick santorum promises big announcement on friday. his campaign released a statement p

guest host is former utah governor jon huntsman. during the break we listened to all of our selections. >> kenny chesney. >> when ac/dc becomes muzak you know you're getting old. that would be me, too, not becky. >> i bet you "back in black" is probably muzak somewhere. ♪ >> at least in 1981, check the record i think 1981, ac/dc goes to muzak, you hear it in shopping malls you know you're getting old. >> what a great idea, muzak. >> when foo fighters, when that becomes muzak you know we're really, really getting old. >> that's close. you are happy. checking u.s. equity futures down. >> it is, requesting black in black" is in muzak. >> it is a classic. >> so is "hells bells." >> dow jones down 50 points, last week of august didn't help the sell in may go away this year and we have the fiscal cliff and the election in europe but other than that we know exactly what's going to happen. >>> congressman paul ryans awe were just talking about accepting the nomination to become the gop vice presidential candidate. in his speech he critici

that guy was the jon huntsman major announcement. the big deal in florida a year ago today was that jon huntsman locked up the endorsement of bush. not that one. actually not that one either. nope. try again. yes. that one. jeb bush jr. the promised major announcement from the jon hunts for for president campaign was george w. bush's brother's son who never held public office. that is called defining down the term major announcement. a short while later it happened again. rick santorum promises big announcement on friday. his campaign released a statement promoting a big announcement on friday at 6:00 p.m. setting the tone for the whole weekend of coverage. here we go. friday at 6:00 be there or miss out on a major announcement. here's how we covered the anticipation of

they were not going to get mayor bloomberg, they were not going to get jon huntsman because jon huntsman probably harbors in addition to the future as he walks away and does an independent run that is unlikely to win he poisons the well and his party. a bloomberg wet look at it and think i would be a spoiler. it's unlikely i could win. i would probably spoil it for the democrats who knows who. it's a crapshoot. so buddy roemer, former governor of louisiana, who tried in the republican campaign and didn't really succeed so that was about the best he could do. and i think he really needed to get maybe it's 100,000 signatures to even be credible for them and then their idea was whoever won the lottery they would pick someone from the opposite party or independent so that you would bypass politics. it's nice to think that way but we tried that. jesse, the former fighter -- jesse ventura in minnesota tried that and the thing is you have no party base. it's nice in theory but it doesn't work so i think they were doomed from the beginning that they raised a lot of money than the announced they

in an interview with greg sergeant at the washington post today, jon huntsman's dad, jon huntsman, sr., who is one of romney's biggest longtime supporters, blotted down rumors he was harry reid's source on the mitt romney didn't pay taxes for ten years allegation. but mr. huntsman nevertheless told greg this, quote, i feel very badly that mitt won't release his taxes and won't be fair with the american people. mr. romney ought to be square with the american people and release his taxes like any other candidate. i have supported mitt all along, i wish him well, but i do think he should release his income taxes. one of mr. romney's biggest supporters. the romney campaign may not want to talk about it. they may want to talk about anything other than this, but the story keeps getting bigger, not smaller. chris hayes joins us in just a moment. this is new york state. we built the first railway, the first trade route to the west, the greatest empires. then, some said, we lost our edge. well today, there's a new new york state. one that's working to attract businesses and create jobs. a plac

so it is a sound bite, i agree with jon huntsman. can't have governing by sound bite for presidential election every day in a new cycle a new sound bite. i think joe biden is an asset to the ticket, he's going to demonstrate that in the debates. his foreign policy experience, i didn't get anything on the china issue, but this ticket of paul ryan and mitt romney has the least foreign policy experience of many tickets on both sides for many years. so again i think vice president biden because of his foreign policy experience and his connection with average voters in pennsylvania, with workers, middle class, is a huge asset to the ticket. >> so has anybody asked you frankly do you think biden ought to be replaced? >> no. and that's not going to happen. he's an asset. he is somebody that brings votes to the ticket in pennsylvania and the midwest. no. he has been a very good vice president and he showed that in the last election. he brought votes to the ticket. no. i think it's a one day story and we should move on. >> governor huntsman,

he also advised jon huntsman in their presidential campaigns. -- jon huntsman and dan quayle in their presidential campaigns. he spoke recently comparing the 2012 presidential elections. this is just over one hour. >> behave yourself tonight. thank you so much for coming tonight. this is a beautiful than you. enjoy yourselves, but behave yourselves also. there are a lot of valuables in the area. pretty excited about the night. before i introduce our guest, i want to talk about gen next. i am a ceo at gen next. our purpose is in our name, gen next. we are trying hard to create opportunities for future generations and facing challenges. we do not want to kick the can down the road for things that we could have solved. we want to get as much as we can out of the way as possible. and in doing that, we tried to attract and leveraged talent. we have relied unsuccessful, busy people, having them learn about and get engaged in economic issues, security, education. tonight is no different. you are inundated with political ads or mail, or you wrote or you just pay taxes, so you know the politic

huntsman voted in two thousand and ten claiming his governor's mansion in utah has as fisher as his official address even though he was no longer governor and no longer lived in the mansion just like it was voter fraud when indiana's republican secretary of state charlie white the top election fish official in the state was found guilty of several felony charges like lying on voter registration forms voting in the wrong precincts and submitting false ballots. the one i'm most interested in hearing is the explanation from none other than republican mitt romney who likely committed voter fraud back in two thousand and ten when he voted for scott brown in massachusetts by claiming he lived in son's unfinished basement so either quarter billionaire mitt romney who owned mansions in california new hampshire but not in massachusetts was sleeping in his son's unfinished basement without his butler maid or chauffeur all pretty unlikely or he committed voter fraud and should face five years in jail and a ten thousand dollars fine so which is admit yes voter fraud rarely happens but when it d

york that's voter fraud just like it was voter fraud when former republican presidential candidate jon huntsman voted in two thousand and ten claiming his governor's mansion in utah as his fish as his official address even though he was no longer governor and no longer lived in the mansion just like it was voter fraud when indiana's republican secretary of state charlie white the top election fish official in the state was found guilty of several felony charges like lying on voter registration forms voting in the wrong precincts and submitting false ballots. the one i'm most interested in hearing is the explanation from none other than republican mitt romney who likely committed voter fraud back in two thousand and ten when he voted for scott brown in massachusetts by claiming he lived in son's unfinished basement so either quarter billionaire mitt romney who owned mansions in california new hampshire but not in massachusetts was sleeping in his son's unfinished basement without his butler maid or chauffeur all pretty unlikely or he committed voter fraud and should face five years in j

a little speculation it's jon huntsman sr. i have no idea. this was an article in gawker, i may be wrong. daily codes, excuse me. yet, does that make sense? is there scuttlebutt about who the source may be and why? >> there is history of huntsman and romney and bangle and way back so he would have some familiarity. also there is the mormon connection with harry reid being mormon, so is huntsman and romney. there is been talk maybe that's the source. but one thing about harry reid, you can say a lot about harry reid, but this is not a guy who's going to back down, first of all. nobody's going to bully him out of this. he doesn't have much to lose. he may not even run for reelection. from what i've seen, this is a guy who doesn't make up stuff. i mean, he's partisan. he gets into the rhetoric but is a pretty straight shooter and i think it's based on something. and i don't understand why all the pressure on him to release his sources. i read a lot of news articles based on anonymous sources and we just take them for granted. >> interesting issu

. >> people like jon huntsman, i believe are the best person for the job. >> jeb bush jr., i'm sorry. you are i'm sure a nice guy, but you are not a major announcement. in the crucial swing state of ohio as we talked about last night on the show, the republican secretary of state announced yesterday this morning there was going to be a major announcement. a major announcement about voting in ohio. even though i am a nerd to big announcement announcements, this from the ohio secretary of state is worth paying attention to. not only is ohio critically important as the ultimate swing state in presidential politics, but voting rights in ohio are due for a major announcement. the whole country ought to be paying attention to ohio. we all remember the ohio voting disaster that was the presidential election of 2004. an estimated 170,000 ohioans leaving their polling place without voting. the lines were just too long. by the way, that is a significantly larger number of voters than the number of victory with which he won ohio. in the next election, ohio fixed that problem and instead of havin

huntsman. the host of huffington post live and daughter of utah governor and former presidential candidate jon huntsman. thank you for joining us. >> i wish i was interest in person in california. thanks for having me. >> jennifer: so do all my crew wish you were here in person. are you at all surprised that single women skew more heavily democratic? >> well, i don't. i'm not surprised. but in this particular election it's frustrating because i think we have an opportunity the republican party does--we have an opportunity to bring over a lot of those women. unfortunately women care a lot about the heart and soul of the candidate, as you know. we want to connect. we want to be able to trust our command center chief, and people talk about romney not being able to connect not relatable, and that strongly effects women more so than men i think. that's the biggest challenge. i don't know how he's going to convince the women that he is their guy. >> jennifer: what would you do to get more single wome

. >> yeah, i have to emphasize again this is speculation, but jon huntsman, sr. >> bill: really? >> that has been the scuttlebutt in washington. >> bill: that would be interesting, because of course he is from nevada and mormon and i'm sure he knows harry reid. >> and there is no love lost between huntsman and -- >> bill: huntsman and romney. all right. you heard it here first. we'll be right back. >> announcer: on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." ♪ >>it's the place where democracy is supposed to be the great equalizer, where your vote is worth just as much as donald trump's. we must save the country. it starts with you. collide. gavin newsom shifts into high gear for answers on the gavin newsom show. ♪ >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> bill: all right. 12 minutes before the top of the hour here on this friday morning. a terrific showing by our u.s. team, usa in london. sports editor for the nation magazine in studio for us to talk about it the next hour. especially the american women. you can follow him on line or on twitter. you jus

. >> people like jon huntsman, i believe, are the best person for the job. >> jeb bush jr., i'm sorry. you are, i'm sure, a very nice guy. you are not a major announcement. >>> in the crucial swing state of ohio, as we talked about last night on the show, the republican secretary of state announced yesterday this morning there was going to be a major announcement. a major announcement about voting in ohio. now, even though i am a big nerd to big announcements, this from the ohio secretary of state is worth paying attention to. not only is ohio critically important as essentially the ultimate swing state in presidential politics, but voting rights in ohio are really due for a major announcement. the whole country ought to be paying attention to ohio and the voting processes. we all remember the ohio voting disaster that was the presidential election of 2004. an estimated 170,000 ohioans leaving their polling place without voting. because the lines there were just too long. by the way, that is a significantly larger number of voters than the number of victory by which george w. bush won

huntsman. the host of huffington post live and daughter of utah governor and former presidential candidate jon huntsman. thank you for joining us. >> i wish i was interest in person in california. thanks for having me. >> jennifer: so do all my crew wish you were here in person. are you at all surprised that single women skew more heavily democratic? >> well, i don't. i'm not surprised. but in this particular election it's frustrating because i think we have an opportunity, the republican party does--we have an opportunity to bring over a lot of those women. unfortunately women care a lot about the heart and soul of the candidate, as you know. we want to connect. we want to be able to trust our command center chief, and people talk about romney not being able to connect not relatable and that strongly effects women more so than men i think. that's the biggest challenge. i don't know how he's going to convince the women that he is their guy. >> jennifer: what would you do to get more single wome

jon huntsman sr. even called for romney to release more returns. i'm quoting huntsman sr. saying i feel very badly that mitt won't release his taxes and won't be fair to the american people. mr. romney ought to square with the american people and release his taxes like any other candidate. i've supported mitt all along. i wish him well. but i do think he should release his income taxes. >> it's not just republicans calling for the release. it's his best friends. the republicans want him to put this issue behind him. the more we talk about taxes, the more the american public is reminded of how broken our tax system is. those who make their income off investment get a break. if they just release it so we can move on to other things. but it's not going to go away. he can stand strong all he wants, but it's going to remain. >> jonathan capehart and victoria defranchesco soto. thank you. >> have a got night. >>> coming up, the truth about republicans attempt to suppress the vote. what should democrats do about it? >>> but first, cats go crazy on a special friday summer break. s

in an interview with greg sergeant at "the washington post" today, jon huntsman's dad, one of mitt rom northeast romney's longsupporters, he swatted down rumors he was harry reid's source on the mitt romney didn't pay taxes for ten year allegations. but mr. huntsman nevertheless told greg sergeant this, quote, i feel very badly mitt won't release his taxes and won't be fair with the american people. mr. romney aught to square with the american people and release his taxes like any other candidate. i've supported mitt all along and wish him well, but i do think he should release his income taxes. so says one of mr. romney's biggest supporters. the romney campaign may not want to talk about it. they may want to talk about anything other than this, but the story just keeps getting bigger not smaller. chris hayes joins us in just a moment. >>> was there ever any year when you paid lower than the 13.9%? >> i haven't calculated that. i'll be happy to go back and look. >> did romney pay 10% in taxes, 5%, zero? we don't know. >> right, you don't know. nevertheless, that's the new ad from the o

huntsman, rick perry, mitch daniels. even sanford was on the list before he had his hike up the appalachian trail, by which i mean he went to argentina with his mistress. the romney campaign's big new ad, their big new campaign effort that they let reporters know about in advance because they want people to think this was a big deal, to let people know it was coming because they wanted to make a huge deal out of it, it's outrage over the obama administration doing what mitt romney and other republican governors asked them to do, which presumably they didn't find outrageous when they were concerned about it, but now they find it outrageous. they're feigning outrage in order to have something to talk about that is not mitt romney's tax returns. in this case, mitt romney is wheaton college, pretending for political purposes to be outraged about something they have done themselves, which they palpably do not find outrageous. if they did, they wouldn't have done it voluntarily. but you know, there is something else going on h

huntsman, rick perry, mitch daniels. even sanford was on the list before he had his hike up the appalachian trail, by which i mean he went to argentina with his mistress. the romney campaign's big new ad, their big new campaign effort that they let reporters know about in advance because they want people to think this was a big deal, to let people know it was coming because they wanted to make a huge deal out of it, it's outrage over the obama administration doing what mitt romney and other republican governors asked them to do, which presumably they didn't find outrageous when they were concerned about it, but now they find it outrageous. they're feigning outrage in order to have something to talk about that is not mitt romney's tax returns. in this case, mitt romney is wheaton college, pretending for politicapurposes to be outraged about something they have done themselves, which they palpably do not find outrageous. if they did, they wouldn't have done it voluntarily. but you know, there is something else going on her

her father, jon huntsman, former utah governor, former u.s. ambassador to china, ran unsuccessfully for the gop nomination. abby is 1 of 60 huntsman family grandchildren and is the only one to marry outside her religion. she is no longer active in the faith. >> there are a lot of wonderful parts to the church, the family aspect is what i loved most about it. but it's very black and white still. there's no gray area. you either live by the mormon doctrine, or you do not. >> reporter: in this modern world, some old-school rules still govern the mormon church and that means no non-mormons allowed inside their temples. ann romney's parents, as non-mormons, were not allowed to see their own daughter married inside the temple in what's called a sealing ceremony. the same was true and abby huntsman's parents were married. her grandparents as non-mormons had to wait outside on the couch. what about the fact you and i right now could walk across the avenue into st. patrick's cathedral, no one would care or wonder what our religious affiliation is. i ca

huntsman, rick perry, mitch daniels. even sanford was on the list before he went to argentina with his mistress. the romney campaign's big new ad, their big new campan effort they let reporters know about in advance because they wanted people to think this was a big deal, to let people know it was coming. they wanted to make a huge deal out of it. it's outrage over the obama administration doing what mitt romney and other republican governors asked them to do. which presumably they didn't find out when they were asking about it, but now they find it outrageous. they're feigning outrage in order to have something to talk about that is not mitt romney's tax returns. in this case, mitt romney is wheaton college, pretending for political purposes to be outraged about something they have done themselves which they palpably do not find outrageous. if they did, they wouldn't have done it voluntarily. but you know, there is something else going own here. which is important, and it's actually a genuine side to the outrage factor

today, romney's former finance chairman, jon huntsman, sr., became the latest republican to ask for more information on romney's tax returns. he says, i feel very badly that mitt won't release his taxes and won't be fair with the american people. i have supported mitt all along, i wish him well, but i do think he should release his income taxes. there is more. moubting public pressure for romney to come clean. a new cnn poll shows 63% of the voting public, what do they want? they want to see more returns. nearly 7 of 10 independent voters say the exact same thing. the gop, you know what they are? they are struggling with how to deal with this, and it really shows. this is what rnc chairman reince priebus said today when asked a question about the birther movement. >> just as much of a distraction as it is for people to ask for more and more tax returns. and all of these other issues. >> really? so he's now comparing 67% of independent voters to birthers. their logic is flawed. how is he going to win swing states talking like that? that's their problem. mitt romney would do anything to ma

huntsman, rick perry, mitch daniels. even sanford was on the list before he had his hike up the appalachian trail, by which i mean he went to argentina with his mistress. the romney campaign's big new ad, their big new campaign effort they let reporters know about in advance because they wanted people to think this was a big deal, to let people know it was coming. they wanted to make a huge deal out of it. it's outrage over the obama administration doing what mitt romney and other republican governors asked them to do. which presumably they didn't find outrageous when they considering with about it, but now they find it outrageous. they're feigning outrage in order to have something to talk about that is not mitt romney's tax returns. in this case, mitt romney is wheaton college, pretending for political purposes to be outraged about something they have done themselves which they palpably do not find outrageous. if they did, they wouldn't have done it voluntarily. but you know, there is something else going on here. whic

there are jon huntsman mormons, harry reid mormons and even little girls who grow up idolizing marie osmond and end up having questions about their faith like me. that is the story i'm trying to tell, that human side to the faith that gets lost in the spin cycle. >> i think a lot of people get stuck on the idea of polygamy. right? i know that is not the entirety of the faith or the culture but a lot of people are like, what is that part about? >> in the book i talk about being a 14-year-old mormon girl sitting at girls camp in the summer in the high sierras and asking the grownups about mormon history of polygamy and whether or not we'd be expected to be polygamists some day in heaven. mormons today do not practice polygamy. there are ultra orthodox splinter groups. you see photos from the desert in southern utah, northern arizona. but most mormons marry one spouse. >> i want to ask you about the cultural depiction of mormonism. it seems as though mormonism has come into its pop cultural own. you've got mormons in the pop culture and pop culture dealing with mormonism in some positiv

the only candidate who has done that this year has been a republican, jon huntsman, you remember him. but i don't know whether romney has the gutteds or belief to go it. that is something that could change the dynamic this race as well. >> rose: do you guys agree with that, if he talked about breaking up the banks and maybe the renewal of glass steagle that we would have -- >> he is not be in favor of glass stealing, he says that. >> rose: i see. >> there is a lot of substantive and stylistic things that would be involved in that choice. they have failed to make him be a happy warrior. and i think that's what he needs to be, maybe above all us. >> rose: the nature of a happy person. >> one of the upsides of ryan is when he has campaigned with ryan so far he has been a more relaxed, a happier warrior out there. but in our interview, and in other media appearances he's done, even sometimes with friendly outlets, conservative outlets, he's to use a good mormon word he's kvetchy and he get as knowed. >> rose: i didn't know that was a mormon word. >> he has not learned to turn all the stuf

i said i cannot vote for newt gingrich, but i saw jon huntsman on there. i knew he was the one who had not taken the grover norquist pledge, he was willing to negotiate, willing to perhaps raise taxes if we had to. i said that the person for me, so i voted for him. afterward i went to a friend's house and i forget if it was 72 people or 92 people here in lexington had voted for jon huntsman. she cannot understand it. i said i can understand it because i was one of them. people respect him for not taking the grover norquist pledge. host: when it comes to how you vote as an independent, is it just fiscal matters? caller: not necessarily. in fact, i saw mr. obama on the television this morning talking about education for people that come from disadvantaged backgrounds. i really respect him for trying to help these kids from the inner cities and places like that to get a college education. so it has to do with education. it has to do with a number of issues. these are things that i think are very important for the country. host: all independents for the first

the only candidate who has done that this year has been a republican, jon huntsman, you remember him. but i don't know whether romney has the gutteds or belief to go it. that is something that could change the dynamic this race as well. >> rose: do you guys agree with that, if he talked about breaking up the b and maybe the renewal of glass steagle that we would have -- >> he is not be in favor of glass stealing, he says that. >> rose: i see. >> there is a lot of substantive and stylistic things that would be involved in that choice. they have failed to make him be a happy warrior. and i think that's what he needs to be, maybe above all us. >> rose: the nature of a happy person. >> one of the upsides of ryan is when he has campaigned with ryan so far he has been a more relaxed, a happier warrior out there. but in our interview, and in other media appearances he's done, even sometimes with friendly outlets, conservative outlets, he's to use a good mormon word he's kvetchy and he get as knowed. >> rose: i didn't know that was a mormon word. >> he has not learned to turn all the stuff--

huntsman, the general perception among most voters in the public was and, unfortunately, is that all the republican candidates were slavishly devoted to the religious and moral agenda of the christian right. and, of course, the media loved this attention to social issues like gay rights and similar issues because they love all the delicious sound bites that candidates like michele bachmann and rick perry and newt gingrich provided which allowed the, by and large, liberal media to spin their own narrative that all republicans are anti-gay. michele bachmann blamed it on two natural disasters last year, both a hurricane and an earthquake. newt beginning limp, -- gingrich talked about the sanctity of marriage, and said that president obama was conducting a war on religion simply because he allows gays to serve in the military. while most people find such remarks amusing if a bit wacky, they are designed to whip up hatred against gays and lesbian in order for these candidates, these particular candidates, to grab a bigger chunk of the christian right voters who make up a large portion of