gadhafi presided over libya from 1969 to 2011. the longest period of rule of any post colonial arab leader.rm during the 42 years, he was bestowed upon himself the title3 of such as guide and brother leader. deprived citizens of basic civil and human rights, while at the same time, he asserted that his people were in control of their own country and destiny. beyond the borders of libya, gaddafi sponsored acts of terrorism. the most notorious was the bombing of pan am flight 103 in december 1988, which claimed the lives of 270 people, including 189 americans. gaddafi succeeded in rehabilitating himself with the west at the turn of the 21st century by making reparations to the families and hoping his mass of weapons of mass deception programs in 2003. during his rule, he raised the let standards of living and life expectancy of his people, using oil revenues that allowed him to avoid the perils of foreign debt. nonetheless, with the arab spring revolutions already underway in neighboring tunisia and egypt, in mid- february 2011, lib

the international committee of the red cross says it's not leaving libya colonel gadhafi is dead. but the conflict isn't settled yet as people keep fighting and in many cities a virtual this chalk rebuilding the country may take years making libya another long lasting red cross. how does the red cross manage to conduct so many. all around the globe and what are the primary issues the organization has to face we're asking the head of the red cross. the international red cross committee conducts several hundred humanitarian operations in some eighty countries despite its purely humanitarian activities the red cross is not always welcome the volunteers have to take between the warring parties sometimes coming under fire they also have to show diplomacy skills as some regimes especially in africa are not friendly towards any kind of. our list of the current thank you very much for being with us here that are well this week the red cross was meeting with the c.s.t. i was the head of this year's tour which is the main the leading security organization or meeting them outside moscow what

in libya, everything was thrown up in the air. gaddafi was like the spider at the center of the web. the revolution cut the web away, and then there was nothing. it is year zero in libya. let me go back to how i got here. i have been in egypt and then we went over the border to libya. i say we because i am a television reporter and was with a producer and with cameras present. we saw on the walls of the border, a big sign in english that said welcome to free libya. there was a young man there who was perfect. he looked just like rambo. he had long brown hair, he had a bandanna, a vendor of bullets around them. he seemed to be our guide. we drove up, which is in eastern months on 10 city. one of the things that they did in eastern country, was that they destroyed the statues of a green book. the greenback was gaddafi's mat philosophy. they destroyed them with pick axes and hammers. that was an incredible symbol. what this gentleman did is filmed his friends doing that. he then locked himself inside the internet cafÉ, there was one

outside libya is the same why would they succeed in libya. if. the situation in libya is the killing. pace's. the fact that they say they want to transmit the power of transfer the power to the . newly elected prime minister. i don't think they have power anyway to give it to him because. of the militia let's talk about the seats the seats now that belong to members of this national transitional council by the way just to say interesting point you make parallels between libya iraq afghanistan the fledgling democracies pursued implemented by the west perhaps not going according to plan but let's talk about the n.t. see the majority of the seats in the newly elected assembly are held mostly by independence do you think the assembly will be able to work together and compromise . the fabric of libya for the society. divided. firstly between. those who are against. the one who. divided that is fighting on a daily basis between them. in different cities especially in. tripoli and also on the other side this is those who are affected by nato and als

the international committee of the red cross says it's not leaving libya colonel gadhafi is dead later has gone but the conflict isn't settled yet as people keep fighting and many cities are virtually destroyed rebuilding the country may take years making libya another long lasting red cross. how does the red cross manage to conduct so many operations all around the globe and what are the primary issues the organization has to face we're asking the head of the red cross. the international red cross committee conducts several hundred humanitarian operations in some eighty countries despite its purely humanitarian activities the red cross is not always welcome in the volunteers have to take between the warring parties sometimes coming under fire they also have to show diplomacy skills and some regimes especially in africa and not friendly towards any kind of. i will miss the current thank you very much for being with us you better well this week the red cross was meeting with the studio with the head of this year's tour which is the main the leading security organization or meeting them

coming up libya's new authority super good to develop the loyalists accused of bomb blasts there came a year after rebels took control of the country. south america's foreign ministers have condemned britain's thread to storm london embassy duress julian assange on sunday the weekly said sir finally made an appearance in public calling for the u.s. to stop its witch hunt against whistleblowers he was granted asylum last week but remains ensconced in the embassy to avoid extradition to sweden for questioning over sex crimes allegations his r.v. is laura smith. the atmosphere here outside the ecuadorian embassy on monday is much calmer than it was on sunday although there are still few hardcore hangers on police and media and to cool supporters who have set up camp pen and look like they're going to be head for the whole not many but still some keeping witness to what goes on here at the ecuadorian embassy sunday of course saw his first statement since he went into the ecuadorian embassy two months ago there was really a rally kind of a con of like atmosphere with a variety of speakers

well libya is out of the new but it's not out of the chaotic rampaging of militant groups libya is not a democratic paradise with independence for its nation at this point neither is iraq neither is afghanistan neither are dozens of nations across latin america and asia i mean we have yet to have a successful intervention on its own terms unless we go back to japan and germany which were absolutely leveled and we haven't left yet i mean the idea that syria is going to be the exception to the rule is going to be the one place where we have military intervention from the west and it does the nation and the region good requires an extreme amount of evidence that we haven't seen yet and the idea that we have a choice of doing nothing or intervening with bombs from from nato planes is is absolutely outrageous we have the opportunity to pursue a cease fire to pursue negotiations to pursue disarmament had a coalition still in korean on regime do you really the sound we're trying. to feed now is really i. think fairly well i think so my claim to i thought i was going on one around. moscow i th

southern part of libya and then the elections itself where. a bit problematic you cannot execute exclude an entire population out of elections it undermines democracy and i'm referring to the people of toronto the city which was ethnically cleanse during the civil war and this is a city that had the majority black population there been completed this place this is almost forty thousand people and they're now confined in refugee camps within their own country mr a lot of you exist out of money and you say how do you exclude people in an exercise of democracy i believe you are going to say but then how do you include us so many different factions that many continue to knock heads with each other. well this is us probably a child and we have to be very realistic person i believe that before even there holding these elections perhaps libya should have had an exercise of national dialogue and national reconciliation and it may ultimately still have to come to that because let's be very realistic we all know how split the country is right now and if

well libya is out of the new but it's not out of the chaotic rampaging of militant groups libya is not a democratic paradise with independence for its nation at this point neither is iraq neither is afghanistan neither are dozens of nations across latin america and asia i mean we have yet to have a successful intervention on its own terms unless we go back to japan and germany which were absolutely leveled and we haven't left yet i mean the idea that syria is going to be the exception to the rule is going to be the one place where we have military intervention from the west and it does the nation and the region good requires an extreme amount of evidence that we haven't seen yet and the idea that we have a choice of doing nothing or intervening with bombs from from nato planes is is absolutely outrageous we have the opportunity to pursue a cease fire to pursue negotiations to pursue disarmament. cone lee still in korean on regime do you really the sound we're trying. to feed now is really not i . think fairly well i think so my point is i thought i was going on one around and landed in

or libya. to cross-talk the new world disorder i'm joined by ryan morel in new york he is the national security analyst of radical islam dot org and a fellow at the clarion phone also in new york we have george say movie he is a fellow at the global policy institute of the london metropolitan university and in austin we cross to alan cooperman he is an associate professor at the l.b.j. school of public affairs at the university of texas all right gentlemen crosstalk rosen if i can and you can jump in anytime you want a few days ago pat buchanan wrote an article that got a lot of attention he said what is driving the world today is sectarianism tribalism and nationalism and he talks about democracy which will mention later why and what do you think about that. i think it's very true you are seeing an increasing sectarian conflict in the middle east not just in syria but also between iran with the radical shiites and then the saudis the radical sunni's but there's also an ideological conflict tha

well libya is out of the new but it's not out of the chaotic rampaging of militant groups libya is not a democratic paradise with independence for its nation at this point neither is iraq neither is afghanistan neither are dozens of nations across latin america and asia i mean we have yet to have a successful intervention on its own terms unless we go back to japan and germany which were absolutely leveled and we haven't left yet i mean the idea that syria is going to be the exception to the rule is going to be the one place where we have military intervention from the west and it does the nation and the region good requires an extreme amount of evidence that we haven't seen yet and the idea that we have a choice of doing nothing or intervening with bombs from from nato planes is is absolutely outrageous we have the opportunity to pursue a cease fire to pursue negotiations to pursue disarmament. still in korean on regime do you really the sound we. face now is really not i. assume fairly well i think so my point is i thought i was going on one around. moscow i think that was negotiatio

i think libya went well. ok george you want to talk about libya well i don't see how one can saying that things are going well in libya we will look at the situation now. where there is no government there i mean essentially. local militia you know running their neighborhoods. you know even when it comes to. the trial of gaddafi son i mean the central government is unable even to bring the man into custody. the other day there was news stories about these. muslim monuments that were destroyed so. you know it it's gone well for the united states and of the united states suffered minimal casualties nato suffered minimal casualties for the victims of the nato bombs i don't think it's going well at all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in we're going to go to a short break and after that short break in your discussion of the new world order state. goals started here. for going global that's not. only my right. to. choose your place to take your stuff and. to. make your statement. spread the word. coupon stream th

well libya is out of the new but it's not out of the chaotic rampaging of militant groups libya is not a democratic paradise with independence for its nation at this point neither is iraq neither is afghanistan neither are dozens of nations across latin america and asia i mean we have yet to have a successful intervention on its own terms unless we go back to japan and germany which were absolutely leveled and we haven't left yet i mean the idea that syria is going to be the exception to the rule is going to be the one place where we have military intervention from the west and it does the nation and the region good requires an extreme amount of evidence that we haven't seen yet and the idea that we have a choice of doing nothing or intervening with bombs from from nato planes is is absolutely outrageous we have the opportunity to pursue a cease fire to pursue negotiations to pursue disarmament and a coalition still in korea nonracial do you really sound which. was really i presume you have been fairly well i think some of my claim to i thought i was going on one around. moscow i think

well libya is out of the new but it's not out of the chaotic rampaging of militant groups libya is not a democratic paradise with independence for its nation at this point neither is iraq neither is afghanistan neither are dozens of nations across latin america and asia i mean we have yet to have a successful intervention on its own terms unless we go back to japan and germany which were absolutely leveled and we haven't left yet i mean the idea that syria is going to be the exception to the rule is going to be the one place where we have military intervention from the west and it does the nation and the region good requires an extreme amount of evidence that we haven't seen yet and the idea that we have a choice of doing nothing or intervening with bombs from from nato planes is is absolutely outrageous we have the opportunity to pursue a cease fire to pursue negotiations to pursue disarmament. still in korean on regime do you really the sound we. face now is really not i. assume fairly well i think so my point is i thought i was going on one around in. moscow i think that was negotia

i think libya went well. ok george you want to talk about libya well i don't see how one can think that things are going well in libya when we look at the situation now . there is no government there i mean essentially just local militia you know running their neighborhoods. you know even when it comes to. the trial of gaddafi son i mean the central government is unable even to bring the man into custody. the other day there was news stories about these. muslim monuments that were destroyed so. you know it it's gone well for the united states and of the united states suffered minimal casualties nato suffered minimal casualties for the victims of the nato bombs i don't think it's going well at all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in we're going to go to a short break and after that short break in your discussion of the new world order state. wealthy british. that's not on the title. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with much cause or there are no holds barred look at the

i think libya went well. ok george you want to talk about libya well i don't see how one can saying that things when going well in libya when we look at the situation now. there is no government there i mean essentially it's just. militia you know running their neighborhoods there's you know even when it comes to. the trial of gaddafi son i mean the central government is unable even to bring the man into custody. the other day there was news stories about these. muslim monuments that were destroyed so. you know it it's going well for the united states and of the united states minimal casualties nato suffered minimal casualties for the victims of the nato bombs i don't think it's going well at all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in we're going to go to a break and after that short break in your discussion of the new world order state . you. want. it with the book. you. we're the bad. mood. download the official location cell phone choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorite. t.v. is not requi

well libya is out of the new but it's not out of the chaotic rampaging of militant groups libya is not a democratic paradise with independence for its nation at this point neither is iraq neither is afghanistan neither are dozens of nations across latin america and asia i mean we have yet to have a successful intervention on its own terms unless we go back to japan and germany which were absolutely leveled and we haven't left yet i mean the idea that syria is going to be the exception to the rule is going to be the one place where we have military intervention from the west and it does the nation and the region good requires an extreme amount of evidence that we haven't seen yet and the idea that we have a choice of doing nothing or intervening with bombs from from nato planes is is absolutely outrageous we have the opportunity to pursue a cease fire to pursue negotiations to pursue disarmament had a coalition still in korea nonracial and you really sound which. was really i. think fairly well i think so my claim to i thought i was going on one around to plan b. in moscow i think that

well libya is out of the new but it's not out of the chaotic rampaging of militant groups libya is not a democratic paradise with independence for its nation at this point neither is iraq neither is afghanistan neither are dozens of nations across latin america and asia i mean we have yet to have a successful intervention on its own terms unless we go back to japan and germany which were absolutely leveled and we haven't left yet i mean the idea that syria is going to be the exception to the rule is going to be the one place where we have military intervention from the west and it does the nation and the region good requires an extreme amount of evidence that we haven't seen yet and the idea that we have a choice of doing nothing or intervening with bombs from from nato planes is is absolutely outrageous we have the opportunity to pursue a cease fire to pursue negotiations to pursue disarmament i had a coalition still in korea nonracial do you really. was really i. think fairly well i think so my claim to i thought i was going on one. side moscow i think that was negotiations really. i

largely the for the many and i think that's what it's really about syria libya. iran. and of course iraq before that we're all in some ways war to us ambitions in the middle east so one after another the u.s. has targeted each of these states so this is absolutely nothing to do with human rights violations exactly involve the you know the u.s. allies is a saudi arabia and bahrain are the worst human rights violators in the middle east this is really about the geopolitical agenda of subordinating a large swath of the middle east to. the u.s. military economic agenda ok herb you want to get in there is have air time gentlemen herb go ahead well i was going to say i mean this case i displace i marxist analysis is really absurd where is the united states where is the evidence of the united states involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment the idea that the united

largely poverty for the many and i think that's what it's really about syria libya. iran. and of course iraq before that we're all in some ways faulting u.s. ambitions in the middle east so one after another the u.s. has targeted each of these states so this is absolutely nothing to do with human rights violations exactly involve the u.s. really though the u.s. allies is a saudi arabia and bahrain are the worst human rights violators in the middle east this is really about a geopolitical agenda of subordinating a large swath of the middle east to. the u.s. military economic agenda ok herb you want to get in there if have air time gentlemen herb go ahead well i was going to say i mean this case i displace i marxist analysis is really absurd where's the united states where's the evidence of the united states involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment the idea that t

well to move to libya now what's the situation there in your opinion how does a country like libya is going to rebuild itself one of the after months very few people talk about is that many of those who fought in libya now went to the area and are now fighting in mali for example we have no sort of a civil war going on or some really extreme muslim took over the north a part of mali many of those fought before that and worked with weapons everything were trained in libya so we see sort of the fallout of this war in libya in the neighboring countries is there a chance that the type of situation we see right now in libya could be repeated in syria as of today the situation for me in syria looks much worse than in libya because i mean the whole environment you know with the middle east conflict. is one problem the other problem is that right now there seems to be so many other countries. who have their own interests within syria supporting one side or the other turkey with the kurdish problem so they are supporting the movement just to prevent the kurds within syria to have their own you

now what's the situation there in your opinion how does a country like libya want to rebuild itself and one of the aftermath very few people talk about is that many of those who fought in libya now went to the area and are now fighting in mali for example were we have no sort of a civil war going on or some really extreme muslim took over the north part of mali many of those fought before that and worked with weapons everything were trained in libya so we see sort of the fallout of this war in libya in the neighboring countries is there a chance that the type of situation we see right now in libya could be repeated in syria as of today the situation for me in syria looks much worse than in libya because i mean the whole environment you know with the middle east conflict. is one problem the other problem is that right now there seems to be so many other countries. who have their own interests within syria supporting one side or the other turkey with the kurdish problem so they are supporting the movement just to prevent the kurds within syria to have their own you know autonomy then

largely poverty for the many and i think that's what it's really about syria libya. iran. and of course iraq before that we're all in some ways faulting u.s. ambitions in the middle east so one after another the u.s. has targeted each of these states so this is absolutely nothing to do with human rights violations exactly involve the u.s. or you know the u.s. allies is a saudi arabia and bahrain are the worst human rights violators in the middle east this is really about the geopolitical agenda of subordinating a large swath of the middle east to. the u.s. military economic agenda ok herb you want to get in there is have air time gentlemen herb go ahead well i was going to say i mean this this case i this case i marxist analysis is really absurd where's the united states where's the evidence of the united states involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment the idea

i think libya one well. george you want to talk about libya well i don't see how one can saying that thing isn't went it's going well in libya we will look at the situation now. there were there is no government there i mean essentially is just. militia you know running their neighborhoods there's you know even when it comes to . the trial of gaddafi son i mean the central government is unable even to bring the man into custody. the other day there was news stories about these are the muslim monuments that were destroyed so. you know it it's gone well for the united states and of the united states suffered minimal casualties nato suffered minimal casualties for the victims of the nato bombs i don't think it's going well at all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in we're going to go to a short break and after that short break in your discussion of the new world order state. it was the plant that was responsible for causing the world's worst industrial disaster and now it had been abandoned in a condition where

i think libya went well. ok george you want to talk about libya well i don't see how one can saying that things are going well in libya when we look at the situation now. there is no government there i mean essentially. local militia you know running their neighborhoods. you know even when it comes to. the trial of gaddafi son i mean the central government is unable even to bring the man into custody. the other day there was news stories about these. muslim monuments that were destroyed so. you know it it's gone well for the united states and of the united states suffered minimal casualties nato suffered minimal casualties for the victims of the nato bombs i don't think it's going well at all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in we're going to go to a short break and after that short break in your discussion of the new world order state. the from. brighton. song from feinstein. who's closed on tati dot com. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse som

largely poverty for the many and i think that's what it's really about syria libya. iran. and of course iraq before that we're all in some ways faulting us ambitions in the middle east as a one off or another the us has targeted each of these states so this is absolutely nothing to do with human rights violations and the recently involve the u.s. or you know the u.s. allies as a separate arabia and bahrain are the worst human rights violators in the middle east this is really about a geopolitical agenda of subordinating a large swath of the middle east to. the u.s. military economic agenda ok herb you want to get in there is have air time gentlemen herb go ahead well i was going to say i mean this this case i disqualify marxist analysis is really absurd where's the united states where's the evidence of the united states' involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment

i think libya went well. george you want to talk about libya well i don't see how one can thing that thing isn't went gone well in libya when we look at the situation now. there is no government there i mean essentially is just. militia you know running the neighborhoods. you know even when it comes to. the trial of gaddafi son i mean the central government is unable even to bring the man into custody. the other day there was news stories about these. the muslim monuments that were destroyed so. you know it it's gone well for the united states and of the united states suffered minimal casualties nato suffered minimal casualties for the victims of the nato bombs i don't think it's going well at all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in we're going to go to a short break and after that short break between your discussion of the new world order state. and. the swiss the plant that was responsible for causing the world's worst industrial disaster and now it had been abandoned in a condition where it had become a s

in libya. that all coming a year after rebels took control of the country. it is a pleasure to have you with us here on our today. live in moscow and south america's foreign ministers have condemned britain's threat to storm ecuador's london embassy to arrest julian assange on sunday the wiki leaks editor finally made an appearance in public calling for the u.s. to stop its witch hunt against whistleblowers but he was granted asylum last week but remains ensconced in the embassy to avoid extradition to sweden for questioning over sex crime allegations with us reporters are. the atmosphere here outside the ecuadorian embassy on monday is much calmer than it was on sunday although there are still few hardcore hangers on police and media and to cool supporters who have set up camp here and look like they're going to be headed for the long haul not many but still some keeping witness to what goes on here at the ecuadorian embassy sunday of course his first statement since he went into the ecuadorian embassy two months ago there was really a rally kind of a con o

largely poverty for the many and i think that's what it's really about syria libya. iran. and of course iraq before that we're all in some ways faulting us ambitions in the middle east so one after another the u.s. has targeted each of these states so this is absolutely nothing to do with human rights violations or recently involved the u.s. really though the u.s. ally this is a saudi arabia and bahrain are the worst human rights violators in the middle east this is really about a geopolitical agenda of subordinating a large swath of the middle east to. the u.s. military economic agenda ok herb you want to get in there and have air time gentlemen herb go ahead well i was going to say i mean this this case i this case i marxist analysis is really absurd where's the united states where's the evidence of the united states involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment th

largely poverty for the many and i think that's what it's really about syria libya. iran. and of course iraq before that we're all in some ways faulting us ambitions in the middle east so one after another the u.s. has targeted each of these states so this is absolutely nothing to do with human rights violations exactly involve the u.s. or you know the u.s. allies is a separate arabia and bahrain are the worst human rights violators in the middle east this is really about a geopolitical agenda of subordinating a large swath of the middle east to. the u.s. military economic agenda ok herb you want to get in there if have air time gentlemen herb go ahead well i was going to say i mean this case i disclose i marxist analysis is really absurd where's the united states where's the evidence of the united states involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment the idea that th

well to move to libya now what's the situation there in your opinion how does a country like libya is going to rebuild itself one of the after months very few people talk about is that many of those who fought in libya now went to the area and are now fighting in mali for example were we have no sort of a civil war going on or some really extreme muslim took over the north a part of mali many of those fought before that and worked with weapons everything were trained in libya so we see sort of the fallout of this war and libya in the neighboring country is there a chance that the type of situation we see right now in libya could be repeated in syria as of today the situation for me in syria looks much worse than in libya because i mean the whole environment you know with the middle east conflict. is one problem the other problem is that right now there seems to be so many other countries. who of their own interest was in syria supporting one side or the other turkey with the kurdish problem so they are supporting the movement just to prevent the kurds within syria to have their own yo

on the way to libya. i went. >> reporter: less than a week there, he was captured by the forces for reconnaissance mission, and he was taken to tripoli and held in solitary confinement and what he calls psychological torture in the high security prison. >> this is where i have been 85 days when i was first captured. >> reporter: there are times when he thought his life would end there. >> i thought i would be in prison for 20 or 30 years or executed. i was involved before nato was involved so i had no idea that nato was involved until i escaped prison and then i went back to the front line and continued doing it. >> reporter: after leaving libya the 23-year-old graduate of georgetown university wants to go back to front lines, but this time, he is destined for syria. he says he is better prepared for the journey. >> i know people in libya and knew people in syria before and i have been working and living in the region four years, and it is not like i threw a dart at the map and just went over there. >> an

well to move to libya now what's the situation there in your opinion how does a country like libya going to rebuild itself one of the after months very few people talk about is that many of those who fought in libya now went to the area and are now fighting in mali for example were we have no sort of a civil war you know some really extreme muslim took over the north a part of mali many of those fought before that and worked with weapons everything were trained in the bia so we see sort of the fallout of this war and libya in the neighboring countries is there a chance that the type of situation we see right now in libya it could be repeated in syria as of today the situation for me in syria looks much worse than in libya because i mean the whole environment you know with the middle east conflict. is one problem the other problem is that right now there seems to be so many other countries. who of their own interest was in syria supporting one side or the other turkey with a kurdish problem so they are supporting the movement just to prevent the kurds within syria to have their own you kn

largely poverty for the many and i think that's what it's really about syria libya. iran. and of course iraq before that we're all in some ways faulting u.s. ambitions in the middle east so one after another the u.s. has targeted each of these states so this is absolutely nothing to do with human rights violations exactly involve the u.s. really though the u.s. allies especially arabia and bahrain are the worst human rights violators in the middle east this is really about a geopolitical agenda of subordinating a large swath of the middle east to. the u.s. military economic agenda ok herb you want to get in there it's half air time gentlemen herb go ahead well i was going to say i mean this this case i this case i marxist analysis is really absurd where's the united states where's the evidence of the united states involvement in syria i mean obviously the united states would love to see assad fall but we're not entirely happy about what the consequences of that might be and that is a continuing conversation that is taking place in our state department at the moment the ide

clearly what we have now in libya for instance is a government that is fine. then what was the case if it got to no one is saying he was a democrat but only the other day some attorneys who had come from the international criminal court were arrested by the new government and i just being held indefinitely i mean at least on the gaddafi he had actually cooperated with the international courts when he handed over the lockerbie bombers so this is clearly the generation rather than progress all right gentlemen i'm struck by and we're going to short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the american empire state with our teeth. well the. syrians technology innovation all the list of elements from around russia we've. covered. by isolation and prejudice. aging. do it with caution. jump to the top. ignore the playing. stage a show. and . start. welcoming you crossed on time did a little to remind you we're talking about america's exceptional empire. ok george i'd like to go back to you in new york i mean where earlier in the program we he

left wing politician but i can on berlin stance on a range of international issues including syria libya and iran. as one of the world's major economic and political powerhouses germany has a lot of influence which it can exert over global situations not to talk with me a little bit more about what germany is doing on the global stage right now i'm joined by. the foreign policy spokesperson for the left body here in germany thanks very much take into. syria is of course the major flash point in the world right now what's germany's view on situation the moment i would love to know what my position is on syria and i think i'm the only side i can take that those people are still peacefully demonstrating for the right for the democratic and human rights. but the german government officially they don't cite something truly until you once . repression within the country sure enough but officially them taking any other sides with the rebels or whatever but informally and we see it from their involvement you know this by ship on the ground another step. invites syrian petitions for the time ther

now what's the situation there in your opinion how does a country like libya want to rebuild itself and one of the aftermath very few people talk about is that many of those who fought in libya now went to the area and are now fighting in mali for example were we have no sort of a civil war going on or some really extreme muslim took over the north a part of mali many of those fought before that and worked with weapons everything were trained in libya so we see sort of the fallout of this war and libya in the neighboring country is there a chance that the type of situation we see right now in libya could be repeated in syria as is today the situation for me in syria looks much worse than in libya because i mean the whole environment you know with the middle east conflict. is one problem the other problem is that right now there seems to be so many other countries. who have their own interests within syria supporting one side or the other turkey with the kurdish problem so they are supporting the movement just to prevent the kurds within syria to have their own you know autonomy then

and many other i don't want to make comparisons libya is a very different country than syria somalia is a very different country but the notion that the victors of a political struggle because this is still a political struggle in syria when the victors are those with the guns that always bodes ill for women for children for civilians syria is not libya syria has a long history of of civil society mobilization and organizations they have many things that was not possible in libya it's not the same i don't want to equate them but the danger is that you will have certain parallels certain similarities such as unaccountable militias who will not put themselves under the accountability of a new government that is a very dangerous reality and as diplomats have already acknowledged if there is another bigger explosion in syria if the entire syrian body politic explodes it will be an explosion not an implosion as libya was there is the danger because it is becoming sectarian because of that sectarian character that is only now becoming dominant in syria in a country that was not traditional

what are precisely what does nato achieve in afghanistan and also since libya keeps getting quoted as an example of nato humanitarian intervention as you quite rightly said they acted as an air force for the opposition never mind the western countries and also gadhafi weapons up till six weeks before that bombing campaign began and that was then provoked a further civil war in libya the most appalling abuse of human rights of african people who happened to be living in libya and a lot of companies coming in to clean up the oil there what was nato really doing there was it about human rights and protecting lives always it really about oil and influence and i just ask that question i think an awful lot of other people are asking that question and was around the subject of expenditure at the point that was being made in the western countries particularly western europe or all of all of europe for that matter going through problems of maintaining social welfare and health service systems the public don't know and not in a mood to spend more on defense when they see hospitals being closed

i've got plenty more to come in the program including again the nasal box regime trends in libya the lack of stability remains as dozens of suspected conduct in the loyalists are rested after a bomb attacks in tripoli. for elise are investigating the case of the twenty nine year old man who they suspect was planning a massacre similar to the one unders break unleashed in july last year the news comes days before they know where to mask. he received his that act for causing the deaths of seventy seven in twin attacks so. cold. and off weaponry and explosives to kill dozens of people that was the discovery of the czech police when they raided at twenty nine year old man's apartment in the city of a strong man was reported by his neighbors to have some mental problems that's why the police decided to take action and later they arrested this man he was carrying a remote detonator for an explosive device on him when he was detained but it's also been revealed by the czech police that an explosive device made of an aircraft bomb was found in his apartment and they did it could have killed

now what's the situation there in your opinion how does a country like libya want to rebuild itself and one of the aftermath very few people talk about is that many of those who fought in libya now went to the area and are now fighting in mali for example were we have no sort of a civil war going on or something really extreme muslim took over the north part of mali many of those fought before that and worked with weapons everything were trained in the area so we see sort of the fallout of this war in libya in the neighboring country is there a chance that the type of situation we see right now in libya that could be repeated in syria as of today the situation for me in syria looks much worse than in libya because i mean the whole environment you know with the middle east conflict. is one problem the other problem is that right now there seems to be so many other countries. who have their own interests within syria supporting one side or the other turkey with the kurdish problem so they are supporting the movement just to prevent the kurds within syria to have their own you know aut

still ahead libya marks one year since the fall of tripoli but the celebration is anything but joyous as continued tribal violence threatens to send the country further into chaos. plus the resentment on the rise in part because time as the u.s. continues to blur the legal lines when it comes to its deadly drone strikes. this week in the case of no region mass murderer anders breivik reached its conclusion the right wing fanatic who admitted killing seventy seven people was declared sane by judges has been jailed for a maximum of twenty one years for his bombing and gun rampage in australia and otay island last year brave big smirk when he heard the verdict in which he says he will not appeal during his final statement here dollar guys for killing even more people and has always existed on his senate see and that the killings were part of this fight against islam cation of no way you countries were suffering a rise in far right activities before the tragedy but as tests are sillier reports critics ideas are fueling even more hatred towards immigrants and islam. there is no doubt about

libya more typical of nato what nato did the u.s. sort of britain and france did was get permission from the u.n. security council to protect civilians with a no fly zone mission which they almost immediately abandoned in favor of acting as an air force for the terrible rebel army and regime change against gadhafi this is what's more typical of nato pushing their way or because these were forces things got for that for good reason and i can learn the jeremy german mind agree with jeremy in london jump in. i have to agree on that with john on this point nato is giving for itself the role of intervention afghanistan intervention in nato intervention west however it pleases that was the whole blair i agenda surrounding nato now nine hundred ninety the warsaw pact gave itself up and collapsed nato should have done the same at that time instead we have this massive global force has it made the world safer has it made the world more secure has improved the civil liberties all over europe and north america you all know the answer to that qu

as opposed to gadhafi libya prepares for his transition of power to a newly elected assembly continued violence threatens to derail hopes for democracy . and it's getting dangerously tense on the border between egypt and israel as karo bombs militants while a new leader struggles to stop violence in the post mubarak trick. and on screen international news and comment live from the new center here in moscow the russian quarter of in the case of the controversial feminist punk band pussy riot says it will delay its verdict until next friday the members of the group are facing three years in jail for storming the altar of russia's main cathedral and belting out what they call a protest punk prayer the tron is deeply divided russian society and triggered strong reactions from abroad peter oliver is following the case and you'll find some sexual images in his report well and the eighth day of the pussy riot trial the judge has set a date for the verdict to be announced of the seventeenth of august at three pm moscow time now this follows from the defendants giving their own closing speeches

in afghanistan, and libya, and elsewhere. in poland, we continue to have a strong relationship as we address the challenges of afghanistan and elsewhere. and we have been pleased with the success of our efforts with both countries. >> in the 30 or so seconds we've got left, what about fast track for arms sales to india? what's the state role in that initiative. >> we are working very closely with the partner of defense and we anticipate the relationship is going to blossom. we have an on opportunity to double that over the next few years. we think that it's a real opportunity for the united states and india to >> pentagon and industry leaders are doing their best to turn up the heat on lawmakers to avoid automatic defense cuts they say will devastate u.s. national security. unless congress strikes a broader deficit reduction deal by january 2nd, dod will lose another $500 billion over the coming decade. the aerospace industries association claims that could cost some 2 million jobsthatdod industry are exaggerating and that th

libya more typical of nato what nato did the u.s. sort of britain and france did was get permission from the u.n. security council to protect civilians with a no fly zone mission which they almost immediately abandoned in favor of acting as an air force for the terrible rebel army and regime change against gadhafi this is what's more typical of nato pushing their way or because these were forces things got for that for good reason because i can learn that jeremy german minded agree with jeremy in london jump in. i have to agree on that with john on this point nato has given for itself the role of intervention afghanistan intervention in nato intervention where so ever it pleases that was the whole blair i agenda surrounding nato now nine hundred ninety the warsaw pact gave itself up and collapsed nato should have done the same at that time instead we have this massive global force has it made the world safer has it made the world more secure has improved the civil liberties all over europe and north america you all know the answer to

that i've ever seen anywhere in the world in terms of human life lost and destruction as post gadhafi libya prepares for its transition of power to a newly elected assembly to new violence threatens to derail any hopes for democracy. and it's getting dangerously tense on the border between egypt and israel and as cairo bombs militants while a new leader struggles to stop violence in the post mubarak country. global news from the heart of moscow this is r.t. life with me rule received shy russian court reviewing the case of the controversial feminist punk band pussy riot says it will not now announce its verdict until next friday the members of the group of facing three years in jail for storming the altar of russia's main cathedral belting out what they call a protest punk prayer of a child is deeply divided russian society and triggered strong reactions from abroad. has been following this case i should advise you you may find some sexual images in his report. well and the eighth day of the pussy riot trial the judge has set a date for the verdict to be announced of the seventeenth of augu

i decided to go to libya. i called my girlfriend and said sorry, i'm on my way to libya and i went. >> reporter: after less than a week, he was captured by gadhafi's forces while on a mission for rebels. he was taken to tripoli and held in sol dare confinement. >> this is where i spent 85 days when i was first captured. >> reporter: there were times he thought his life would end there. >> i thought i would be in prison for 20 or 30 years or possibly executed. i was captured before nato was involved. i had no idea nato was involved. after escaping prison, i went to the front line. >> reporter: now, after leaving libya, the 33-year-old graduate of georgetown university wants to go back. this time, he's destined for syria. he's better prepared than most. >> i know people in libya. i have been in syria before. i have been working and living in the region for years. itis not like i threw a dart on the map and went there. >> reporter: as the casualties mount, he says he knows this journey will be more dangerous than