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of sydney or melbourne. only about 20,000 lived in australia at the time. but that has changed in the years since as muslims from neighboring indonesia and the middle east sought refuge and opportunity down under. >> there may be as many as half a million muslims residing in australia. they have little chance or opportunity to hear the gospel, but that is starting to change. >> reporter: al-haad television is an arabic television channel, broadcasting christian programming in australia and other parts of the muslim world. it was launched by this man, former muslim, michael l.mosri. he started the channel with his only limited finances, and persevered, despite fierce opposition from the muslim community. he said they air christian programs in a way that muslims understand. >> it is so unfortunate for muslims that we expose religions. >> reporter: you're not afraid anymore? >> no. because the lord will protect. i believe in a special mission like that, the lord will provide extra protection. he died for them.

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but one cigarette seller in sydney says the law goes too far. she's worried it will ruin her business. >> i'm not very happy with it. it takes away the customer's choice. it takes away their ability to make sure they are getting the product they've asked for. >> reporter: as the new law moved through the legal system, it met united opposition from four of the world's biggest tobacco companies, including phillip morris and japan tobacco. they say the law violates consumer rights and property. a japan tobacco official says the firm will examine the court's summary in regard to its future business. nhk world, sydney. >> india's prime minister singh says his government will do all it can to encourage investment. he gave a speech at the ceremony in new delhi, marking the 65th anniversary of the independence from british rule. the prime minister expressed concern over india's economic slowdown and signified a sense of crisis about lingering poverty and inflation in the country. >> translator: if we fail to increase the pace of growth, it will most cer

(sydney pollack) noit gets interesting again. why? i'm afraid when i'm working that i don't have enough story. this is something i always complain about. to myself, to the writers i'm working with. who's going to pay attention to these people if we don't have some sort of a story to lean on? in the times where the films have been successful, and they aren't always, but when they are successful it's because in some way character substitutes story. (sydney pollack) the nerve that got punched in "the way we were" was that these two characters were obvious prototypes here. the wasp american and the ethnic immigrant. the one that has everything and the one that has nothing. the one to whom everything comes easily, the one to whom everything seems difficult. everybody seems to identify with one of these characters. usually both. once you get them captured, once they are playing that game with the people on the screen, this is like you've got them by the throat. you squeeze a little more and more and more. don't let them escape. don't let th

golden dawn you can hear as a culprit comes rushes close a limping diving championship in sydney to. take in the men's three need to springboard. out of gold leaf rushes even to halt the heights to become the new olympic champion in the nice high jump. so let's go straight to the olympics where russia's men's basketball team are i mean for a place in the semifinals as they prepare to take on this you when you're at the two arena in london russia how to finish better than the olympics since the breakup of the soviet union while if you haven't finished lower than the semifinals in the last four some games they're about to face off in about ten minutes time under the winner of this match will face either france or european champions play in argentina face result in the whole of south america not jump in and fight when some top seeds the u.s. let you finish group play with a five no perfect record straight out in the last game the tight. one in women's basketball rushes through to the semifinals following a sixty six sixty three victory over turkey in the last days it was all square off

plus golden dawn five years like how else becomes russia's first olympic diving champions in sydney two thousand after victory in the men's three meter springboard. and golden leap russia's event who called the heights to become the new olympic champion in the men's high jump. so let's go to london where the russian men's basketball team boss through to the semifinals of the twenty twelve olympics after an eighty three points to seventy four victory over the few a year and i guess i like going to ensure that russia will reach the olympics every finals for the first time since the breakup of the soviet union with a comprehensive victory at the o two arena and next up for david plotz side are either france or european champions spain while argentina face brazil in an all south american match up eight weeks and top seeds the usa who finished group a with a five nil perfect record will take on australia in the last game of the day. while the women's basketball rushes through to the semifinals following a sixty six point to sixty three victory over turkey in the last eight it was all square

said with two thousand sydney gold medalist to liberty call before the current russian contingent tries to repeat that success. it was a dream come true but the moment itself felt almost on a real when i was standing on the podium receiving my gold medal i just couldn't believe it was really happening to me it took quite a while for the realisation to sink in that i am an olympic champion. of the sport has changed a lot since my time it has become even more difficult judges now pay attention to many things they didn't before for example during our routines we often catch the ball without watching it behind our back with our legs before you want to wanted any points for doing things like that but nowadays you do. get us to love with i'm sure russia will claim in limpin gold and hopefully even soda in london like we did four years ago and i think our girls could even prevail in the team event i wish them the best of luck. with all kanada has a great personality she's the most decorated gymnast of all time but she never let that go to her head she's so humble i want to hear olympic champio

not so when the rhythmic gymnastics gets underway at the london games he said done with two thousand sydney gold medalist your neighbor sickle before they current russian contingent tries to repeat that success. it was a dream come true but the moment itself felt almost on a real when i was standing on the podium receiving my gold medal i just couldn't believe it was really happening to me it took quite a while for the realisation to sink in that i am an olympic champion. of the sport has changed a lot since my time it has become even more difficult judges now pay attention to many things they didn't before for example during our routines we often catch the ball without watching it behind our back with our legs before you want to wanted any points for doing things like that but nowadays you do. yoga with i'm sure russia will claim in limping gold and hopefully even soda in london like we did four years ago and i think our girls could even prevail in the team event i wish them the best of luck. kanada has a great personality she's the most decorated gymnast of all time but she never let that

champ and since the sydney games claiming the man's meat to springboard . and two point three eight rushes is the new olympic champion in the high jump winning the event in style. the odds are lympics first why russia has moved up to fifty in the overall medal table after grabbing another three goals on day eleven of the competition those came in a flood diving and synchronized swimming with more than them. wriggles won silver and won bronze day eleven of the london two thousand and twelve summer olympics has proved to be one of the most fruitful for the russian team with a first victory resurfacing in the synchronised swimming pool not. a martian a produced in the flawless performance to win the do its event and prove the country's domination of the sport to the two thousand games in sydney russia has been the nation to beat both in duis and teams competitions. it was a brilliant showpiece and romesh had a very complicated performance and they did their best to see it was clear for both the judges and the crowd they were head and shoulders above their oppo

event russia have dominated the jew at arras team event in this sport since sydney two thousand. it was a brilliant showpiece and had a very complicated performance and they did their best if it was clear for both the judges and the crowd they were head and shoulders above their opponents they are one of the best two it's in history and now we all people fingers crossed for the team competition where we should add another goal to our tally. and in the meantime he has a heart after gold in the men's three meter springboard russia's first winner in this event at the olympics for twelve years it's the heart of the second medal at these games after claiming silver in the men's synchronized diving with yevgeny course that's over. and russia's third goal came in the men's high jump. finished his first outdoor title defending champion andres so north was down in twelve. and as well as those three goals russia also took silver in the men's greco-roman wrestling. finishing as runner up in the ninety six to the grand final. and jane asked earlier mostafa to try and her second bronze at the

. >> great stuff from sydney. a number of the great performances of the games came you willitish rower. \ see him if you stay here on bbc world news. a kenyan set a blistering pace in his race. seven of the 8 finalists beat their personal best. we want to talk live to a former kenyan international athlete. is it that you drink warm beer instead of cold? what makes people -- the kenyan s so dominant? benjamin, can you hear me? we are asking what makes the kenyans so dominant? >> hello. i cannot hear you. >> we are not getting a perfect line. i will try one more time. can you tell us what makes kenyan runners so dominant in their field? >> what makes them dominate these events, especially the long and the middle distance, we have got a lot of role models. it is the training for the 1,500 meters. we come from generations of modest means. canyons -- kenyans are choosing to do the middle and long distance running. the physical activities they are doing on the things that lead them to dominate. >> benjamin, a quick ques

sydney, new york, chicago, l.a. all cities with mass transit, fine arts, architecture. they're all near bodies of water, have easy access to transportation. charlie, anything mathematical, logical? i don't know. you guys have all the experience in finding fugitives. don... ...remember how you could never lay off low and outside pitches? what?! sorry, but low and outside, you couldn't stop swinging at those pitches, no matter how many times you missed, no matter how much it hurt your average. charlie, what are you talking about? charlie: everyone has something they like to do, they can't help doing. you can't help but swing at low and outside pitches. what does andric do? what can't he stay away from? remember when we first talked to him, he was listening to opera? said he'd been at the opera the night they found lisa bayle's body. all four cities where he's lived, they have world-class opera companies. hey, you're right. see if there's any major operas in l.a. right now. that's why he sold his credit cards to a drug dealer for almost no money. yeah, to create a false tr

do we have sydney close five? -- close by. we will pass the microphone to the mayor for a couple of quick words. we have a fire chief and the police chief. >> good morning, everyone. 106 years since our earthquake. we do have a grandson? she was with us in 2009. goopublic works is here. this reminds us of the 3000 people but passed away in 1906 from the devastating earthquake, but the rebirth of our city is with us. i have been in all of these other positions where we are always prepared. and we are already engaged in recovery efforts. we were there with a whole staff. we have six we assure you that when the next big event happens, that water system will be there for us to deliver water with that 24 hours. a huge change from depending on this fountain. we are handing it off to generations of youth in the city to understand -- make sure they're prepared. go to our website, it tells you all the things there. iti is about having those items prepared.w we will survive. that is how we get ready and celebrate and honor the people wh

a 22-yard pickup to sydney rice, tom. he's been hurt a lot but when he's healthy, he's a great receiver. >> excellent play by olsen. it was thrown down the field. >> was he lost in the zone? he was wide open. >> it looks that way. they cleared it out and should have stayed in t zone and guarded the upside passing route there. >> and now a flag. do the raiders have 12 guys on the field? i think they do. miles burris stepped off the field. the raiders may have had 12 players on the field. out of illinois community college, we have a replacement referee. he's been a referee in d 1 and d 3. the raiders have a dozen on the field. >> i'm not sure what the call was. i mean, it seemed that they had 12 guys, but they picked it up and said no. >> but the ball hadn't been snapped so it hadn't been a penalty. >> 1st and 10 on the 39 yard line, eye formation behind russell wilson. here's the draw to tur bin. he's a powerful runner, and got tripped up by bilukidi, the 6th round draft pick out of florida state. he could be a factor. >>

with two thousand sydney gulp medalist your neighbor soko but before the current russian contingent tries to repeat that success. it was a dream come true but the moment itself felt almost on a real when i was standing on the podium receiving my gold medal i just couldn't believe it was really happening to me it took quite a while for the realisation to sink in that i am an olympic champion. the sport has changed a lot since my time and it has become even more difficult judges now pay attention to many things they didn't before for example during our routines we often catch the ball without watching it behind our back with our legs before you want to i wanted any points for doing things like that but nowadays you do. with i'm sure russia will claim in limping and hopefully even in london like we did four years ago and i think our girls could even prevail in the team event i wish them the best of luck. with the kanada has a great personality she's the most decorated gymnast of all time but she never let that go to her head she's so humble i want to hear olympic champion you've achieved eve

about one gold at the sydney olympics in two thousand and assessed her compact his chances of repeating that success. i guess it was a dream come true but the moment itself felt almost on a real when i was standing on the podium receiving my gold medal i just couldn't believe it was really happening to me it took quite a while for the realisation to sink in that i am an olympic champion. playing the sport has changed a lot since my time and it has become even more difficult judges now pay attention to many things they didn't before for example during our routines we often catch the ball without watching it behind our back with our legs before you want to i wanted any points for doing things like that but nowadays you do. get us to love with i'm sure russia will claim in limping and hopefully even sober in london like we did four years ago and i think our girls could even prevail in the team event i wish them the best of luck. with the kanada has a great personality she's the most decorated gymnast of all time but she never let that go to her head she's so humble i want your olympic cham

gold since the sydney games in two thousand and scored ninety eight point nine three points out of a possible one hundred in their free routine this result was added to their top scoring routine from the technical round on thursday and that was enough for a big gold china took silver ahead of space. and in the past half an hour three time european champion a pencil done up has claimed russia's a false wrestling gold at the london x. after winning the men's fifty five kilogram freestyle category by beating. of georgia in the final four meanwhile russia have reached the final of the men's volleyball off a four set win over bulgaria the russians looked on course for a comfortable victory before the bold areas rather late in the third set however they really found their form in the fourth and are now guaranteed a silver medal in the final against either olympic assume medalist brazil or italy however russia have failed to reach the final of the men's basketball after losing sixty seven fifty nine thousand european champions spain david landslide lead by eleven points at the halfway stage

all round standings after the second and final day of qualifying russia had won every single gold in sydney to. thousand and four much unction elaina says the team looks set to repeat this feat just in the ninety's and i'm really pleased with how the girls perform today in their in the first place they looked really confident out there and showed no signs of nerves this doesn't happen very often when are competing in the world's biggest event they talons are currently in second was this which is a bit of a surprise for me a new team can we need any given time you never know what my how does the brave but in the meantime kenya's david rudisha has set the first athletics world record at the tournament with victory in the men's eight hundred races thought favorite set a blistering pace from the start i went on to become the first athlete to run one minute forty one with a time of one minute the o.t. point nine one seconds the race was so fast or light finalists that personal or season's messed times seventeen year old nigel amos of botswana took silver with another kenyan to be quite a complet

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. >> all i know is that lauren sydney, a guest on our show today, said i went on this morning and almost all the seats are gone. i went, ah, ah, it's really happening. straight today, go over to rehearsals. >> of course you are. i've got nothing to do since this show started. it's perfect. >> hodi, thank you for coming to eat a couple of crabs with us the other day. >> there is nothing like a crab feast at kathie lee and frank's house. first of all, everyone's up to their elbows in that red stuff, that old bay seasoning. no. you really get in there. >> remember how many birthday calls i got that day. no. i can't come. i was up to my elbows literally. >> it was andy's birthday. and today, by the way, is al roker's birthday. happy birthday. >> i'm officially 59. there's no way around it. approaching 60. >> wait till next year. >> i'm going to make a it the best year of my life, i just decided. it's attitude. i feel great. i'm excited. right after that, went up to boston for a family wedding. >> this was a swanky little event, wasn't it? >> it was elegant and beautiful. frank daughter's vic

>> 12 years ago in sydney, concludes with the greatest of all time. it would not work for michael phelps. the third leg of the 100 meter medley. he hit the pool with the lead. his signature stroke left the final impression of excellence. nathan adrian brought it home. phelps gave thanks to his teammates and opponents and everyone in the building. smiles of relief and acceptance. there is kobe bryant. the greatest swimming career of all time comes to an end. one week ago some question if you would even medal. what a difference. >> i refuse to believe this is the end. >> i am with you on that. we will see in four years. >> here is the latest count. united states has 54. china remains in second with 53. the host country is the third. now that the final race is over for phelps, he says he is retired. dear dear fitzpatrick is in london with reaction. >> i could not be more happy, but those words from michael phelps as he goes out with another gold medal. he and his teammates won a gold in the four by 100 medley. he says that is the perfect way to go out. >

we have a question from boulder, colorado and sydney joins us. good morning to you. i know you're a college student there. what do you have for our panel here this morning? >> through my university e-mail, i receive advertisements from companies that pay decently for answering survey. they all have a one-time fee. how do i know if they're a scam or not? >> that fee is a red flag. i would be wary of these companies that say you make money filling out surveys and then they pay a fee approximately many times, maybe it's worth looking into, but it's not going to give you the type of money you'd want from a paid job. if they want your personal information, social security numbers, all those are red flags. if you

. >> the day in 1993 when sydney was chosen to host the 2000 olympics, the games by which it today everyone is drudge. records and laurie. it was here that the true heroine of the games shone through. the second aboriginal athlete in history to become an olympic champion. a major anniversary of the game. but she was not the only aussie to captivate the home crowd. 2 golds on the opening day, both of which won by the man who would be known as "be torpedoed." -- "the torpedo." no longer they were called "the best ever games." it was a triumph for australia. 15 golds. the $6 billion gains that will never be forgotten. -- games that will never be forgotten. >> day 14 at the olympic games in london. medals are being awarded at a rapid rate. we now go to andrew lindsay. another great day, andrew. >> yes, as you say, medals being handed out everywhere. the first gold medal in athletics for turkey. meanwhile, there was a record- breaking race for the usa. teamomen's 500 meter relay have smashed the record in winning the gold medal. the team set a time of half a second better than the world's best.

a couple in sydney, australia is more than happy after employees at a mcdonald's save their daughter. the parentsows daughter up to the counter. tichip.choked on a employees worked three minutes her breathing again. a rare sight in oklahoma in the of wildfires. take a look. it appears to be a smoke funnel cloud. the fires has caused a ton of dozens ofstroying homes and buildings. you see that if you are in the area. like a tornado. how does that happen? >> the intense heat from the sunshine creates air and gives a twist to it. a dust devil you see sometimes in big fires. you see those flames sometimes. always unusual to see. something like that does not do any damage. >> any chance of rain? >> a few showers but our best chances will be on friday. let's have a look at the drought situation. in the areas in yellow, north we west and south of metro, a moderate drop across much the d.c. metro area and then drought situation. even the western shore is under a severe drought. couple of areas picked up brain. virginia, 2300. to hundredshington, of an inch. the 60's andin 70's. 93 today, our

this is the event, piers, he was in as a 15-year-old in sydney in 2000. for michael phelps to be caught at the finish in his signature, his bread and butter race, i'm sure that even though he's very happy about this record -- >> he won't like it. >> no. >> a lot of experts saying tonight he eased up, which is unlike him. as he did, the south african went through hard and that's how he beat him. very unlike michael phelps to let that happen. >> a mistake. he looked upset afterward. that's part of the reason. people remember four years ago the 100 butterfly where michael caught his competitor right at the very end. this was the complete reverse of that. very disappointing finish for michael. >> do you think he's trained as hard as he did for beijing? do you think the hunger has been there? >> no, it can't be there. dominique knows this for sure. it can't be there. he said he didn't want to train. if it's not in the tank, if you haven't put the money in the bank, how do you withdraw it? and i think that's what we're seeing with michael as well. >> and this i