with only a little more than 2 million bowling competitively. >> there's two parts to bowling. there's really the sport side and then more of the recreational side. the sport side of bowling is is where you're seeing a lot of decline. the recreational side is actually kind of seeing growth. >> hicklin's father introduced him to bowling. today father and son bowl together all the time. >> i'm really proud of him, you know, because at 13 he said he wanted to make bowling balls, and i remember back then, i said, oh, no, we ear not going to have you have an engineer degree to make bowling balls. he kept with his dream all the way through, you know, his passion. >> hicklin is proof that a career in science, technology, engineering, and math can be cool. >> i think it's fun in general. the people that are the richest in this country get it from science and technology more times than not, not from necessarily playing sports or those kind of other things. those are also high-profile and good, but i would tell you that it's a lot of fun to sit in my chair and be able to help design bowl

these are your headlines for wednesday september nineteenth two thousand and twelve simpson bowles that was obama's bipartisan deficit commission in two thousand and ten but it keeps coming up mitt romney paul ryan joseph biden they've all along it around as a political football in recent speeches or interviews we will talk to former republican senator a senator and he was the co-chair of the simpson bowles commission alan simpson about the facts and how he proposes to fix the deficit and the august u.s. housing starts number came in below analyst expectations today while mortgage lending declined to its lowest level in sixteen years for two thousand and eleven according to a report from federal regulators also fed ex which is an economic bellwether its global growth forecast i could go on the point is this is all more evidence the u.s. economy and any kind of we're covering his slow going at best so how do you sell us deficit reduction as a top priority in this environment plus the u.k. city of bristol launches its own currency and it reportedly is off to a pretty solid start as the u.

these are your headlines for wednesday september nineteenth two thousand and twelve simpson bowles it was obama's bipartisan deficit commission in two thousand and ten but it keeps coming up mitt romney paul ryan joseph biden they've all flung it around as a political football in recent speeches or interviews we will talk to a former republican senator a senator and he was the co-chair of the simpson bowles commission alan simpson about the facts and how he proposes to fix the deficit and the august u.s. housing starts number came in below analyst expectations today while mortgage lending declined to its lowest level in sixteen years for two thousand and eleven according to a report from federal regulators also fed ex which is an economic bellwether its global growth forecast i could go on the point is this is all more evidence the u.s. economy and any kind of recovery is slow going at best so how do you sell us deficit reduction as a top priority in this environment plus the u.k. city of bristol launches its own currency and it reportedly is off to a pretty solid start as the u.k.'s

erksine bowles let me start with you. here we are at the edge of the fiscal cliff, how the heck did we get here? >> because for decades we've made promises in washington we simply can't keep. and to me it's really frightening. i think that we face the most predictable economic crisis in history, fortunately for us it's also the most avoidable, but the fiscal path we are on is simply not sustainable in these deficits are like a cancer, a cancer that will destroy our country from within. if we don't put some of this mindlessness and senseless partisanship aside and decide we're going to pull together rather than pull apart. >> darren: senator simpson let me ask you, i think people sitting at home hearing that there are all these temporary tax cuts and automatic spending cuts that are about to take effect they think, why do politicians do this? >> well they do it so they can get re-elected mainly. if they can go to the left, if the lefties can go to their base and say they're working their tails off trying to get this thing,

erksine bowles let me start with you. here we are at the edge of the fiscal cliff, how the heck did we get here? >> because for decades we've made promises in washington we simply can't keep. and to me it's really frightening. i think that we face the most predictable economic crisis in history, fortunately for us it's also the most avoidable, but the fiscal path we are on is simply not sustainable in these deficits are like a cancer, a caer tt will destroy o country from within. if we don't put some of this mindlessness and senseless partisanship aside and decide we're going to pull together rather than pull apart. >> darren: senator simpson let me ask you, i think people sitting at home hearing that there are all these temporary tax cuts and automatic spending cuts that are about to take effect they think, why do politicians do this? >> well they do it so they can get re-elected mainly. if they can go to the left, if the lefties can go to their base and say they're working their tails oftrying to get this thing, as erks

these are your headlines for wednesday september nineteenth two thousand and twelve simpson bowles it was obama's bipartisan deficit commission in two thousand and ten but it keeps coming up mitt romney paul ryan joseph biden they've all flung it around as a political football in recent speeches or interviews we will talk to a former republican senator a senator and he was the co-chair of the simpson bowles commission alan simpson about the facts and how he proposes to fix the deficit and the august u.s. housing starts number came in below analyst expectations today while mortgage lending declined to its lowest level in sixteen years for two thousand and eleven according to a report from federal regulators also fed ex which is an economic bellwether its global growth forecast i could go on and the point is this is all more evidence the u.s. economy and any kind of we're covering his slow going at best so how do you sell us deficit reduction as a top priority in this environment plus the u.k. city of bristol launches its own currency and it reportedly is off to a pretty solid start as

this week the two men who tried to tackle the fiscal crisis last year, simpson-bowles plan is back in the decision 2012 spotlight now. welcome both. it's like going to the mall with justin bieber hanging out with the two of you. but senator, there's something to that, you go around the country and talk in great detail about what you proposed. what is the reaction you get? >> people are thirsting for somebody not to give them bs and mush and erskine and i gave them numbers. we don't have power point or charts, we just tell you where your country is. the trajectory of debt and deficit and interest is as same as portugal, iraq, iran -- greece. >> poland is still in -- i won't go -- but it's sad and we take questions. we don't filter the questions. they can ask anything they want. they can be from aarp, seniors, teachers and they'll give us a standing ovation, thirsting for somebody to tell them the truth where their country is going. >> republican and democrat do that who really care about each other. >> you don't think we're getting that in this debate in this campaign season? >> i don'

hence, the name, simpson-bowles. now it put everything, everything on the table and the result was a truly bipartisan plan to reduce america's debt by $4 trillion over ten years through spending cuts and tax reform. now you can see that green line is sort of where our debt is going over the next decades to come. and if the commission's proposals are followed, that is the blue line. that's what would have happened. under the six-step plan, federal workers would have been subject to a three-year pay freeze and the commission would also reduce the oversaul size of the government workforce through attrition. the comprehensive tax plan involved would lower personal income and corporate tax rates while broadening the base of people who pay taxes. capital gains and dividends would be taxed as ordinary income. now back door government spending for certain industries would also be removed. things like the government subsidies for the ethanol industry. a portion of the money raised there would go directly to paying down long-t

got a bowling ball here, gang. any gravity pulling on the bowling ball? any gravity pulling on the bowling ball now? how many say, no there's no gravity pulling on it when it moves? stand up. we know gravity pulling on that, yeah? how come the gravity don't speed it up? it's moving upwards down. yeah, yeah, yeah. gravity pulling straight down, straight down. let me show you. gravity pulling straight down. is there any component of that force along this direction? no, no, if gravity was kinda pulling at an angle like that, guess which way it would accelerating when i let go? it would start accelerating that way, see that? i mean, let's suppose, like this was a hill. and now gravity is pulling on it. does this force here have any component along the tabletop? answer end with a 'p', begin with a 'y' and the answer is yup, it do. it's kinda pulling down here. in fact, there's a way to do that where you kinda take the little rectangle. you guys been into vectors? and this component here, makes it accelerate down the incline. this component doesn't do any work

. >> i joined a bowling league. craig: you joined a bowling league? that is very impressive m >> i learned to bowl on youtube. craig: that's not possible. >> you can learn anything on youtube. i learned how the do a smoky eye. craig: what is the? >> a makeup trick. craig: oh, i thought it was -- >> you know what it is. craig: i thought it was a sex thing. >> maybe it is. craig: geoff, is that a sex thing? geoff: you know it is. craig: it sounds like a sex thing. i went out of the house, met a guy and gave him a smoky combrifmente >> we're talking about your life. craig: you learned to bowl. did you ever watch "the big lebowski." >> there is not enough bowling in that. my shy a 189. craig: whoa! >> thank you. it would have been better but i was drinking and threw the end of the game. craig: what does that mean? a high of 189? >> i got four strikes in a row. the more strikes you get, the higher your score goes. craig: many americans bowl. i think it is a popular past time here. you don't need referees. >> you really only need internet access to learn ho

it's really not by the way simpson bowles proposes to treat capital gains like regular income and it cuts defense spending as two examples that are pretty much the opposite of what romney is calling for romney proposes to eliminate capital gains tax for the so-called middle class and increase military spending so let's get away from all this political rhetoric let's have a cold hard conversation about the u.s. national debt which is now above sixteen trillion dollars larger than the g.d.p. and let's talk about how some symbols in today especially as the hysteria at the moment it's all about this. i. i'm talking about the icy cold fiscal cliff so joining me now from wyoming is former u.s. senator who was co-chair of president obama's simpson bowles fiscal commission alan simpson himself so first thank you so much for being on the show today senator it's a pleasure to the northwest college which you're wonderful and i was on the border for. all right all right and we're happy that they hosted you to do this interview now let's talk simpson bowles because i have to say senator simpson a

erksine bowles let me start with you. here we are at the edge of the fiscalliff, how the heck did we get here? >> because for decades we've made promises in washington we simply can't keep. and to me it's really frightening. i think that we face the most predictable economic crisis in history, fortunately for us it'i also the most avoidable, but the fiscal path we are on is simply not sustainable in these deficits are like a cancer, a cancer that will destroy our country from within. if we don't put some of this mindlessness and senseless partisanship aside and decide we're going to pull together rather than pull apart. >> darren: senator simpson let me ask you, i think people sitting at home hearing that there are all these temporary tax cuts and automatic spending cuts that are about to take effect they think, why do politicians do this? >> well they do it so they can get re-elected mainly. if they can go to the left, if the lefties can go to their base and say they're working their tails off trying to get this thing, a

simpson bowles everybody. crazy of the media when people talk about the simpson bowles commission recommendation there were no commission recommendations can you that was part of that a little bit there were co-chairs this was a commission that was set up by president obama and if we had was it was actually eighteen i mean if they if they were but if they had received those kind of supermajority their proposal would have gone to congress what they proposed for social security was the overall budget deficit and of course we argued social security shouldn't be part of that because it doesn't add to the doubt but they they would have decimated social security and that's not hyperbolic to say that they really would have destroyed. over a number of you knows that is one of the reasons why jan schakowsky just basically she refused to vote for it the president and other leading democrats have very obliquely talked about praised the bowles simpson proposal after after the the whole larger suggestions imploded mr simps

so i think that president obama most importantly dropped the bowles-simpson commission. we pushed debt because of all of the things that happened, the t.a.r.p. and the bailouts and all that kind of stuff. we pushed the debt to uncomfortably high levels and the academic literature says when it gets that high it's growth and something that you tacked about a lot and we didn't argue against it. that's why it's fair to attack this. >> i agree with you on that. we spoke to alan simpson a few moments ago and we reminded everybody, that paul ryan who pointed out in his speech that president obama dropped simpson-bowles voted against it because it wasn't perfect. that wasn't the right thing to do. >> well, i mean, it wasn't up on capitol hill. they didn't submit it as a vote because president obama didn't really work with everybody on the hill to get a plan that people could come behind and support. you know, the fact is that what needs to happen is that you need to have a president that works with members of the other party, comes up with something that he says is going to be g

. >> well, you mentioned bowles simpson, sir, and you voted against that. >> i like that part of bowles simpson, but you talked a good game, but you don't deliver the goods. what do you-- >> no, here is what people do. if you don't like the plan that someone's put on the table. put your plan on the table and pass that budget through congress, and mitt romney offered a plan, president obama hasn't done any of that. he disavowed bowles simpson and offered all the it i haves -- alternative plans. the even bowles simpson, it didn't address the primary driver of our debt. health care programs. starting going bankrupt. i don't want a pass a bill to fix the fiscal crisis when i know it doesn't fix the fiscal crisis. >> neil: he's saying it didn't go far enough. charles payne, ben stein, dagen mcdowell and adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. >> i think it was a good place to start, to ryan's point, it was with respect to social security or medical spending, you know, and the ideal spending cap. if we adhere to spending caps we wouldn't be in this position in the first place, so i take his poi

simpson bowles everybody. makes me crazy of the media when people talk about the simpson bowles commission recommendation there were no commission recommendations can you that was part of that a little bit there were co-chairs this was a commission that was set up by president obama and if they had was it was actually a take that if they if they were but if they had received those kind of supermajority their proposal would have gone to congress what they proposed for social security was the overall budget deficit and of course we argued social security shouldn't be part of that because it doesn't add to the doubt but they they would have decimated social security and that's not hyperbolic to say that they really would have destroyed. over a number of you knows that is one of the reasons why jan schakowsky just b.c. he refused to vote for it the president and other leading democrats have very obliquely talked about praised the bowles simpson proposal after after the the whole larger suggestions imploded mr simp

he disavoided simpson-bowles and offered no alternate. we took what we liked in simpson-bowles and added more reforms. i didn't support simpson-bowles is because it didn't address the primary driver of our debt which is health care programs. health carry entitlements going bankrupt. i don't want to pass a bill to fix the fiscal crisis when i know it doesn't fits the fiscal crisis. that is why we took the good ideas and combined with necessary reforms that prevented that crisis. that is what mitt romney and i propose. we need three things: pro growth economic policies. that is what regulation and energy policy is about. spending cuts. we prepared lots different spending cuts. also, critical entitlement reforms that are market based that give people more control over their lives. it doesn't make changes for people in or near retirement but reforms programs if my generation so they are this for my generation when we retire. that is how you get ahead of the problem and prevent european-like austerity. >>neil: a lot of this reminds me of europ

and simpson bowles was. >> i disagree, my friend. if you get more of those people saying, i'm not going to have to pay a lot. and 8 out of 10 americans are for all americans putting some skin in the game. so, don't think you've got to-- >> and we're probably as well, but you don't have to get on your liberal high horse about that, but i'm saying the fact of the matter is it's out of control, that's all i'm saying, out of control. we're going to take a break and when we come back, it used to be that. >> i love that idea of watching someone become an activist, so many of the issues that are important to me, like want to get to my knees and thank them. >> anyway, even the star of the latest fox movie "won't back down", well, we'll be covering the upcoming presidential debates, and the president and vice-president, and this wednesday, colorado, hollywood stars are all over it and why not i'm covering it. continues on fox business network, and each night, 8 p.m. eastern time right through midnight, so. get fired up. >> you go crazy with y

to bowl. who are you bowling for? he said i'm bowling for opponent. he ran up and kicked the ball. you have can't make it up. he is joe biden. i think people relate it to. i do. he's fine. >> greg: i think they were sitting in separate chairs but they seemed extremely cozy. i guess -- aren't there reporters somewhat jealous he gives more access to a biker? >> eric: i just love your analogy. american people looking at him like hey, what are you doing there? you like joe being joe. with 57 days left, keep the ladies off your lap. >> kimberly: euphoric. if you give a better speech than the president, you're better than me. check me out, ladies. >> bob: he's not on his lap. >> greg: they were in a booth or two separate chairs i'm not sure. i think -- i think he is on a booth. he's leaning forward. >> dana: i thy he is sat on his lap. i think that is what the poole report said. >> greg: dana, you sit on a lot of laps. >> dana: what? >> kimberly: glad you said that about her not me. >> dana: here is

so i think that president obama most importantly dropped the bowles-simpson commission. we pushed debt because of all of the things that happened, the t.a.r.p. and the bailouts and all that kind of stuff. we pushed the debt to uncomfortably high levels and the academic literature says when it gets that high it's growth and something that you tacked about a lot and we didn't argue against it. that's why it's fair to attack this. >> i agree with you on that. we spoke to alan simpson a few moments ago and we reminded everybody, that paul ryan who pointed out in his speech that president obama dropped simpson-bowles voted against it because it wasn't perfect. that wasn't the right thing to do. >> well, i mean, it wasn't up on capitol hill. they didn't submit it as a vote because president obama didn't really work with everybody on the hill to get a plan that people could come behind and support. you know, the fact is that what needs to happen is that you need to have a president that works with members of th other party, comes up with something that he says is going to be go

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and this defense can carry this team to the super bowl. they are getting great play from their offense and alex smith but this is a super bowl caliber defense. >> now to the team that kept the 49ers from going to the super bowl a year ago, the giants. it looked again like eli manning and his group headed for an ugly loss. eli had a very poor first half against tampa bay and comes to life and throws over 500 yards in the game and puts up 25 points in the fourth quarter. how does he keep coming up with the fourth quarter magic? >> last year it at the super bowl, rodney harrison says he likes eli manning better in the fourth quarter than tom brady. i think it's his composure. it doesn't matter if it's cruz or nicks or bennett. any of these guys. he believes in them. they believe in him. and this was a big, big fourth quarter win for them today because they would not have wanted to be 0-2 and going on the road on thursday. once again, eli manning just came up huge. >> tony, thanks again. see you next week. we turn to mike florio of profootball

i mean, he said he was looking at the principles of bowles/simpson and simpson/bowles that those principles included pro growth tax reform across the board, getting rid of the deduction. he opposes that. he wants to raise taxes on the well to do. he demagogued on the middle class tax cut as did mr. biden. he sort of said, you know, government is not always the problem. you know what, government in my opinion is frequently the problem. government gets in the way of commerce, government gets in the way of investment, government gets in the way of success and the rate of return. he's a man of government. i didn't see anything different today. he's still a man of government and republicans who oppose that, they're going to hurt the poor, the elderly, the disabled, and they're going to have dirty air. i just don't agree with him, i'm sorry, i'm not in his camp. >> you know, john harwood, it seemed like the only big applause lines that he had this evening were when he said, surplus, try a tax cut, deficit too high, try another, feel a cold coming on, take two tax cuts, roll back regulation and ca

stacked within each other, bowls like this. all their designs, you can kind of get a glimpse around this. they have this flawless symmetry blending all the way around. it looks like that place. it looks like that landscape. i look into this and i see the sharp edges of the land. i see the way the earth is shaped out there. i see the routes in their vessels. i mean, to understand these, this one came out of a 13th century site in southwest colorado and i would sit with these bowls for hours and hours, drawing them into my sketch book because that was the only way i could really understand the complexity of how they got their symmetries to match up because i could never get them to match up in my drawings. i could never do a 100 percent accurate rendition of these because every line was meaningful, every line meant something about how you paint the next line, which is what it's like walking out there, looking for those shapes, looking for water, looking for springs, looking for places where the rain has fallen. it's all the same

and this defense can carry this team to the super bowl. they are getting great play from their offense and alex smith but this is a super bowl caliber defense. >> now to the team that kept the 49ers from going to the super bowl a year ago, the giants. it looked again like eli manning and his group headed for an ugly loss. eli had a very poor first half against tampa bay and comes to life and throws over 500 yards in the game and puts up 25 points in the fourth quarter. how does he keep coming up with the fourth quarter magic? >> last year it at the super bowl, rodney harrison says he likes eli manning better in the fourth quarter than tom brady. i think it's his composure. it doesn't matter if it's cruz or nicks or bennett. any of these guys. he believes in them. they believe in him. and this was a big, big fourth quarter win for them today because they would not have wanted to be 0-2 and going on the road on thursday. once again, eli manning just came up huge. >> tony, thanks again. see you next week. we turn to mike florio of profootball

simpson-bowles, bowles-simpson. the commission put together by president obama to find a solution to the country's fiscal problems containing a mix of spending cuts and tax increases designed to reduce the budget deficit to 2.2% of gdp. everyone praised it and then everyone ran away from it. two congressmen stepped up and introduced a plan in the house. >> this is the only bipartisan way to solve the nation's problems. this is the only budget that has a chance of getting through both the house and the senate. >> we have been viciously attacked from the left and the right and when you know you have a good deal is when the left and the right are pounding the snot out of you. >> well, their efforts got them a total of 38 votes including themselves. joining me now are the two congressman who introduced the simpson-bowles based budget. j 38 votes. 38 votes. congressman cooper, how frustrating was that moment? i remember when you introduced it. i thought for sure there would be 80. i think we knew it wouldn't pass. what h

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they use an open source, and he has to keep it until the super bowl. and josh, i will not pick on you, this was a game designed largely for fun. he said it best, he said i'm taking a flier, it's huge or going to collapse. you went for the hail mary and i respect that. >> the odds are against you, but if you get one right you end up winning. clearly this is one i got wrong and i'm stuck with it forever, i feel like i will be on the show every two weeks apologizing for it, but i'm comforted in the fact that i would never own it personally because i'm not smart enough to figure out if they can turn it around. it needs a transaction or stand alone. >> some people think -- you wonder what the stock could get through in a deal. >> it's a $3 billion cap. the talk is there is a billion or billion and a half in. there is users not moving to an iphone tomorrow, there's the pros. but 17 straight days it has closed below where it's been broken. it's been broken for a long time and it's getting worse on top of which they have earnings on september 27th, and you do

gerri: has not been to the super bowl in 16 years. >> a long time. what they have is $80 million according to forbes and revenue strictly from advertising. they do something that a lot of other teams and not able to do, and that is keep all of their merchandise sales. they have separated in many ways from the nfl in that regard where they get all of it. if you're a team like the cowboys of the yankees are manchester united in soccer, you can do things like that. a regular everyday kind of team, the north since, with all due respect, they can't do that. the cowboys went off the field with sometimes if you on that team may be better than many on the field. gerri: so they have all kinds of advantages, including the fact that they are -- their stadium has been financed by taxpayer dollars. this is common. cities all over the country do this to keep these teams in their towns, whether it's football or baseball or whenever sport. >> it's interesting. i look and say, if i'm in honor of a team but i want is taxpayers to fund my stadium. the other point, me t

how about asking the man who commissioned simpson-bowles how he feels about simpson-bowles? and, you know, he won't answer the question. but he puts out a nice two-minute ad that says he's going to reduce the debt by $4 trillion but never tells us how. he's going to create a million manufacturing jobs but never tells us how. the fact of the matter is, david, when i hear you talk about mitt romney, i think you're talking about president obama. >> i want to end with this. as you know, political reviews are tough things sometimes, and there was a tough review for you as the keynoter at the republican convention. this was from politico, john harris and tim mack in reviewing your speech. the headline, christie delivers a primetime dud. they write, there's no mistaking what a successful keynote speech for chris christie would have looked and sounded like. there would have been an electric reaction from the crowd in the convention hall. it would have been followed by waves of effusive media commentary about how people had just heard the future of the republican party. there is no m

he feels about sim son-bowles. he won't answer the question. but he puts out a nice two-minute ad that says he's going to reduce debt by $4 trillion. but never tells us how. he's going to create a million manufacturing jobs, but never tells us how. the fact of the matter is, david, when i hear you talk about mitt romney, think you're talking about president obama. >> i want to end with this. as you know, political reviews are tough things. it was a tough review for you as the keynoter as the republican convention. this was politico, john harris and tim mack in reviewing your speech. the headline on it, christie deliver as primetime dud. write there's no mistaking what a successful keynote speech from chris christie would have looked like and sounded like. it would have been followed by waves of media commentary about how people had just heard the future of the republican party. judged by these standards, there's no mistaking what the new jersey governor delivered, a primetime belly-flop when notably failed to clear

stacked within each other, bowls like this. all their designs, you can kind of get a glimpse around this. they have this flawless symmetry blending all the way around. it looks like that place. it looks like that landscape. i look into this and i see the sharp edges of the land. i see the way the earth is shaped out there. i see the routes in their vessels. i mean, to understand these, this one came out of a 13th century site in southwest colorado and i would sit with these bowls for hours and hours, drawing them into my sketch book because that was the only way i could really understand the complexity of how they got their symmetries to match up because i could never get them to match up in my drawings. i could never do a 100 percent accurate rendition of these because every line was meaningful, every line meant something about how you paint the next line, which i

i think he'll say that he's for the bowles-simpson plan to deal with the debt. i think you'll see -- >> so you think all of a sudden you'll have a compromiser, all of a sudden everyone will hold hands? >> i think the voters will send a message in the house and senate races that they want both parties to work together. >> what would that somebody. >> the message will be -- >> more democrats, more republicans? >> no, i think it's going to be a very, very strong message that says we've had enough of you guys or we'll have a third party. i think you will see a fair number of incumbents thrown out. >> who ends up with the senate? >> i think democrats barely keep the senate. >> how about the house, it becomes less republican? >> yeah, i bet you democrats get ten new seats. but i think those elected will be reformers. this is a crucial time in history. i see the president getting -- it will still be close. i think romney will do well in the debates. challengers do well in the debates. >> hispanic vote. they come out? the young people? >> they'll come out again. now, ge

simpson bowles was a missed opportunity. we're now looking at a fiscal cliff that could result in another downgrade of our credit thatand a big problem for the economy. chris: the president seems to be -- everybody think he is wants to have done that. he wants to have agreed to simpson bowles but find a way of kissing it without marrying it. he wants to say i'd like to do it, i just can't do it because the republicans won't join me. if they won't join me, i'll be hung out there. will there be any movement with by the president toward a simpson-bowles compromise? will he take the lead to try to do that or let it hang out there for a while. >> not before election day. he thinks he'll get a simpson bowles like deal after winning re-election where he thinks he'll face a chastened republican party having lost the house and the senate. chris: the president believe he is can beat what he thinks is a right-leaning party this november. what he considers the grownup the jeb bushes and other moderate republican conservatives will come

simpson-bowles is a balanced approach. in the ryan plan, they just cut $4 trillion and want to give a $5 trillion tax cut to the upper income. >> you also have no partner. we can't balance the budget with no revenue. and both mitt romney and his running mate have said they will offer zero revenue. >> ifill: let me ask you this, mayor reed and mayor parker. this is a convention where everyone is talk about an election. everyone is talking about battleground state. your state is not one. your state is not one. your state is not one. how do you know your priorities are even being heard in an election like this, mayor parker? >> again, cities are functioning very well at a very high level. people continue to move to cities. cities are where you go to find a job, to find an education and build your own future. cities are thriving with or without help from the government. we just need-- actually in large instoonsz to stay out of the way. one of the things you see mayors united on is we'd like to see direct funding to major u.s.

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simpson bowles was a missed opportunity. we're now looking at a fiscal cliff that could result in another downgrade of our credit and that's a big problem for the economy. chris: the president seems to be -- everybody think he is wants to have done that. he wants to have agreed to simpson bowles but find a way of kissing it without marrying it. he wants to say i'd like to do it, i just can't do it because the republicans won't join me. if they won't join me, i'll be hung out there. will there be any movement with by the president toward a simpson-bowles compromise? will he take the lead to try to do that or let it hang out there for a while. >> not before election day. he thinks he'll get a simpson bowles like deal after winning re-election where he thinks he'll face a chastened republican party having lost the house and the senate. chris: the president believe he is can beat what he thinks is a right-leaning party this november. what he considers the grownup the jeb bushes and other moderate republican conservatives will co