now, you might ask, who is jesse benton? jesse benton was ron paul's press secretary in the 2008 presidential election. he was rand paul's campaign manager during his 2010 senate run and then he was ron paul's campaign manager during his 2012 presidential run. so this is a guy who has been as anti-establishment, and as pro-paul as any republican in the country. in fact, for rand paul, the son, to get to the senate, he first had to win a primary against mitch mcconnell's hand-picked candidate in kentucky. it was the true believer conservative outsiders against that entrenched washington establishment. now one of the truest of the true believers is moving into a key position on mcconnell's campaign. but in some ways the move shouldn't be too much of a surprise. to a degree people i think really don't appreciate, ron paul's dramatically changed the face of the republican party. not on everything, of course. his attitudes on foreign policy and on the drug war haven't gotten him very far. but his positions on the size of governme

so you have jesse benton who was rand paul's campaign manager against the successor for the senate seat in kentucky. now mitch mcconnell is bringing benton on board. they brought them all on board. that seems to not be happening in the common tear yat. so aren't people like the folks at fox news risking the situation in which they are seen as the establishment and they lose all of the energy on their own side in the same way that the national republican senate snee and all these guys had to bare the brunt of their own wing? >> i think you're right, but i think you're hitting the conundrum about fox. it's not a tea party association. it's owned by rupert murdoch, more or less. so therefore, when the chips are down, they are going to go with romney. murdoch himself has been skeptic of romney. that's where the interests are. the tea party people, the grass roots have nowhere to go. i think the grass roots people would say we have some place to go, possibly some day a third party. but i think if romney loses, which increasingly seems likely to me, even if he wins, they are going to be a rea