so did julian castro and michelle obama. and bill the lesson that clint eastwood taught america if you are in a debate with an empty chair, you have got to win the debate. yeah, i guess that was the first debate of this election. [♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: hey, good morning, everybody, good to see you this morning, and welcome to the "full court press," on this wednesday september 5th, coming to you live on current tv all the way across this great land of ours again from charlotte, north carolina capitol of the democratic national convention, and day two of the democratic national convention. what a great night last night. julian castro, giving the keynote speech and michelle obama giving the most powerful speech of the night. we'll hear from elizabeth warren and vice president joe biden here tonight. what a difference between here and charlotte, and the lackluster event in tampa last week. we'll have randi weingarten. but first the current tv update from lisa ferguson. >> hi bill. good morning, everyone. the dny continu

julian castro feels the pressure. why did obama pick you? >> i think that he and i see eye to eye on a lot of issues. i also think it's another signifier of the significance of h himself pan hispanics. >> reporter: his mother immigrated to the country, his brother joaquin is now running for congress. he's expected to win. tonight, he introduced julian. >> ours is a nation like no other. a place where great journeys can be made in a single generation. no matter who you are or where you come from, the path is always forward. >> reporter: you grew up in a community, you wind up going to stanford, and a law degree from harvard, you and your brother. how is that possible? >> we are very blessed to have a family that wanted to make sure we got a good education. >> they studied. >> reporter: julian's mother rosie. >> this or that wasn't as important as having each other and having a good time with the money we did have. >> reporter: she's been a community activist in san antonio for decades. a woman who began taking her twins into the voting booth

de la convenciÓn nacional y nosotros pudimos ir a la casa del seÑor juliÁn castro, Él habla poco castellano su familia lo habla bien, cristina se sentÓ con Él no su casa para hablar sobre el hombre y sus polÍtica. >>> me siento honrado por los sacrificio que mi bieabuela y m ma este donde este hoy. >>> es la historia que se escucha a travÉs de toda la naciÓn y tambiÉn enseÑa que la comunidad latina ha sido importante para estados unidos. >>> mucho orgullo, y muy honrada por esta oportunidad que Él va a tener que le ha dado el presidente y la boconvenciÓn pa dar esta presentaciÓn especialmente porque va a representar a los latinos a nosotros aquÍ tambiÉn en san antonio a todo el pueblo de san antonio. >>> y para ver mÁs de la entrevista con juliÁn castro y su familia en su casa en san antonio los espero maÑana en el noticiero nacional telemundo, con eso vamos a nuestra primera pausa para ver estÁ entrevista, solo tiene que ir a telemundo.com, [ mini ] ¿cuaderno? listo. ¿horario de clases? aquí. ¿regla? acá está. ¿efoca-lizador miniatura? ¿qué es eso? pues...yo. no es

de la convenciÓn nacional y nosotros pudimos ir a la casa del seÑor juliÁn castro, Él habla poco castellano su familia lo habla bien, cristina se sentÓ con Él no su casa para hablar sobre el hombre y sus polÍtica. >>> me siento honrado por los sacrificio que mi bieabuela y m ma este donde este hoy. >>> es la historia que se escucha a travÉs de toda la naciÓn y tambiÉn enseÑa que la comunidad latina ha sido importante para estados unidos. >>> mucho orgullo, y muy honrada por esta oportunidad que Él va a tener que le ha dado el presidente y la boconvenciÓn pa dar esta presentaciÓn especialmente porque va a representar a los latinos a nosotros aquÍ tambiÉn en san antonio a todo el pueblo de san antonio. >>> y para ver mÁs de la entrevista con juliÁn castro y su familia en su casa en san antonio los espero maÑana en el noticiero nacional telemundo, con eso vamos a nuestra primera pausa para ver estÁ entrevista, solo tiene que ir a telemundo.com, al telemundo.com, [ mini ] ¿cuaderno? listo. ¿horario de clases? aquí. ¿regla? acá está. ¿efoca-lizador miniatura? ¿qué es eso

i think julian castro did a great job, too. michelle obama didn't just talk about the heart which i think we saw from ann romney. she actually talked about policy and what barack obama has done for the country and why it's good for families, why it's good for america. that was an unusual thing for a first lady to come out and do sort of a litany of how policy is connected to people's lives. i thought that was really impressive. >> rick, if you were still there with old governor romney you'd be thinking, dammi tirt, day on get a hurricane and they get a different hurricane, a verbal hurricane. a series of speeches. not a good day for republicans, you could say. >> i think michelle did a great job. i have been to a lot of revivals. we have heard a lot of this before. the democrats have to be very careful. they cannot replicate 2008. i'm here in charlotte. i don't feel that energy that we did in 2008. i think they have got be very careful. the other thing i would say, they have a big problem on their hands right now with israel. t

su madre hoy lo hace con su pequeÑa hija karina, juliÁn castro se apoya en su familia en momentos de estrÉs y su presencia serÁ Útil cuando esta noche pronuncie el discurso principal en la convenciÓn democrata. >> (en inglÉs). >> es bueno tener a mi familia aquÍ, me siento apoyado y siempre es bueno poder relajarse con la familia. aÚn en situaciones tan estresantes,. >> ya tiene listo su discurso. >> todavÍa no, estoy practicando y todavÍa (en inglÉs) todavÍa estoy trabajando mmm... pero creo que voy a estar preparado antes de. >> del martes creo. >> lleva semanas practicando su discurso y su espaÑol con el primero le va mejor. >> y ¿cuÁl sera su mensaje?. >> ¿quÉ es es lo que aporta a la convenciÓn y la campaÑa del presidente obama?. >> hablarÉ de la familia que mi abuela vino de mÉxico cuando era una niÑa. mi mamÁ logrÓ ir a la universidad y mi hermano joaquÍn y yo logramos estudiar derecho y nos convertimos en abogados, conseguimos nuestros sueÑos. ese es el sueÑo americano. >> su hermano gemelo joaquÍn castro es candidato al congreso federal, si lograro

. >> keynote speaker julian castro touched the crowd with his story of humble beginnings the first hispanic to deliver a keynote speech at the dnc. he talked up the president but delivered a punch to mitt romney. >> i don't think governor romney nent meant any marm. he has no idea how good he's had it. mitt romney quite simply doesn't get it. >> it was a democratic party so speakers served up a lot of red meat. >> if mitt was santa claus, he would fire the reindeer and outsource the elves. >> women still earn just 77 cents for every dollar men make. maybe 23 cents doesn't sound like a lot to someone with a swiss bank account, a cayman island investment. >> put simply, women in america cannot trust mitt romney. >> i want to bring in ruth marcus, columnist for "washington post" and political reporter nick con sore ri. let's talk about michelle obama. it was called a resounding trium triumph. what do you think she accomplished? >> i think it was very important as we saw with ann romney's speech. spouses serve a very validating humanizing function, it's not that people don't know president obam

: first thing you need to know, it's pronounced julian castro. the j. is silent, not julian. if you get the spanish wrong, don't worry, san antonio's mayor never mastered espanol. >> i grew up in the household with my mother and grandmother mostly speaking english. i understand it. speaking it back a always the challenge. >> reporter: julian castro's grandmother immigrated to san antonio from mexico and worked as a community activist in snan anton antonio's chicano movements. julian castro and his twin brother went to stanford university and harvard law school. now he's a rising star in the democratic party tapped to give the keynote speech at the democratic convention, the same speech an unknown barack obama gave at the convention in 2004. >> you get talked about as someone who could be the first hispanic governor of texas, some people even suggesting the first hispanic president of the united states. do you like that kind of talk? can you handle that kind of pressure? >> i'd be lying if i said that's not flattering. of course it's flattering to

: first thing you need to know, it's pronounced julian castro. the j. is silent, not julian. if you gethe spanish wrong, don't worry, san antonio's mayor never mastered espanol. >> i grew up in the household with my mother and grandmother mostly speaking english. i understand it. speaking it back a always the challenge. >> reporter: julian castro's grandmother immigrated to san antonio from mexico and worked as a community activist in snan anton antonio's chicano movements. julian castro and his twin brother went to stanford university and harvard law school. now he's a rising star in the democratic party tapped to give the keynote speech at the democratic convention, the same speech an unknown barack obama gave at the convention in 2004. >> you get talked about as someone who could be the first hispanic governor of texas, some people even suggesting the first hispanic president of the united states. do you like that kind of talk? can you handle that kind of pressure? >> i'd be lying if i said that's not flattering. of course it's flattering to a

and a look at julian castro. the young american mayor who is delivering the keynote address from his mother's influence. >> she gave me a sense that public service could be noble. >> to what supporters say about his similarities to the president. >> i'm very flattered by the comparisons. >> shep: how he's set to make history tonight. plus, michelle obama scheduled to take the stage to talk up her husband. but there is one thing you should absolutely not expect to hear her say. and how her speech could compare with that of ann romney at the rnc. but first from fox's tuesday night live from charlotte, the democratic national convention is now officially underway. and how is this for timing? today the national debt clock topped $16 trillion for the first time in u.s. history. we'll have more on that a little later with gather are you willis. we'll three hours away from the headliners, including the first lady, michelle obama. she checked out the stage yesterday. president obama says he can not compete with the first

i'm julian castro. >> reporter: first thing you need to know, it's pronounced julian castro. the j is silent. not julian. but even if you get the spanish wrong, don't worry. san antonio's mayor has never mastered spanish either. >> i understand it better than i speak it. i grew up in my household with my mother and grandmother mostly speaking english. i understand it, but speaking it back is always the challenge. >> reporter: julian castro's grandmother immigrated from mexico and worked in the chicano movement in san antonio. from the humble beginnings, julian and his twin brother went on to stanford university and harvard law school. now he is a rising star in the democratic party, tapped to give the keynote speech at the democratic convention, the same speech an unknown barack obama gave at the convention in 2004. >> you get talked about as someone who could be the first hispanic governor of texas. some people even suggested the first hispanic president of the united states. do you like that kind of talk? can you handle that kind of pressure? >> i'd be lying if i said that'

so did julian castro. >> maria, you tweeted last night. i follow you on the twitters. you said you're so proud to be a latino democrat right now. that was during castro's speech. i want to play a small clip of it right now. >> and because he knows that we don't have an ounce of talent to waste, the president took action to lift the shadow of deportation from a generation of young, law-abiding immigrants called dreamers! republicans tell us that if the most prosperous among us do even better, that somehow the rest of us will, too. folks, we've heard that before. first they called it trickle down. then they called it supply side. now it's romney/ryan. or is it ryan/romney? either way, their theory's been tested. it failed. our economy failed. the middle class paid the price. your family paid the price. mitt romney just doesn't get it! >> i want to go back to the first part of that where he talked about lifting the shadow of deportation. because in truth the shadow you could argue has gotten a little bit darker under president obama he deported 1.4 million illegal immigra

the star was julian castro and the impact he may have on his voters? >> that's a huge impact, ashleigh. he pushed all the right buttons and said all the right things, and he helped the audience understand the immigration experience and realizing the sacrifices his mother and grandmother had to go through. but he also captured the audience in a very special way, ashleigh, by speaking spanish. that phrase he said at the very end, may god bless you, that is something very dear to many latinos, and i know that personally because that's what my mother tells me every time i leav leave, son, may god bless you, and i'm sure that connected with many hispanic voters. also the clip where he talked about the fact that his grandmother and mother worked very hard jobs for him to be able to hold a microphone instead of a mop. i think that resonated with many latino voters. >> i don't think you can argue the power of the two of them together, julian and joaquin, out on that stage together. they dressed the same as well, the same shirt, different ties. but it was inter

let's look at julian castro. he tied his family's story to that of his grandmother's who emigrated from mexico as a young orphan. let's watch. >> the american dream is not a sprint or even a marathon. but a relay. our families don't always cross the finish line in the span of one generation, but each generation passes on to the next the fruits of their labor. my grandmother never owned a house. she cleaned other people's houses so he could afford to rent her own, but she saw her daughter become the first in her family graduate from college. my mother fought hard for civil rights so instead of a mop i could hold this microphone. >> mayor castro got some major attack lines on romney. listen to this one about how romney just doesn't get it. >> mitt romney quite simply doesn't get it. a few months ago, he visited a university in ohio and gave students there a little entrepreneurial advice. start a business, he said. but how? borrow money if you have to from your parents, he told them. gee, why didn't i think of that?

. >>> importancia del voto latino se hace evidente al ser un alcalde de san antonio juliÁn castro quien diga el discurso principal esta noche, hablarÍa la primera dama. >>> hablar de los valores de su esposo que ha prometido ayudar a la comunidad. >>> latinos podrÍan ser incrÉdulos, pero las estadÍst a estadÍsticas afirman que pueden ayudar. el alcalde de los Ángeles vaticina que los latinos van a responder. >>> vas a ver que los latinos van a votar para el presidente obama en nÚmeros aproximadamente 70%. si eso no es entusiasmo, si eso no es apoyo no sÉ que es. >>> los demÓcratas no estÁn dispuestos a ceder ni un solo voto, no dan por sentado que un grupo vaya a votar por el presidente obama automÁticamente. la mayor parte del programa es dedicado ala mujer y los asuntos que son de importancia para ellos, en particular la salud, sistema reproductivo, el tema de las pastillas anti conceptivas, el tema del aborto han sido mencionados, las oradoras han dicho que no pueden confiar en romney y si fuera electo presidente seria un paso para atrÁs para las mujeres. este estadio se

we're talking about san antonio julian castro following in the footsteps of bill clinton and barack obama, hoping he'll appeal to the growing latino population. here's a look at the man and the mission that he's facing. >> it's been my pleasure to serve as mayor. >> reporter: meet julian castro, popular latino mayor of san antonio, texas, and a darling of the democratic base who will deliver the keynote speech at the national convention in charlotte. democrats have a long tradition of rolling out the party's rising stars for such an honor. >> the keynote speech is to set the tone for the entire convention. >> we will have a new president of the united states. a democrat born not to the blood of kings but to the blood of pioneers and immigrants. >> bill clinton gave the keynote speech. barack obama has given a keynote speech. i'm julian castro. >> reporter: castro knows the burden is on him to appeal to latinos as well as inspire a broader audience of voters. >> the choice that we have to make in this election is whether to continue to invest so that everyone can reach the american dream o

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and the democrats have a new star in san antonio mayor julian castro. but the evening belonged to first lady michelle obama as her husband and daughters watched from the white house, her message was simple. president obama is just like you. susan mcginnis is in charlotte with more this morning. good morning to you, susan. >> terrell, good morning. michelle obama had this arena captivated and the crowd roaring last night in a speech that's being called emotional and intelligent. she laid out her case for giving her husband one more term. michelle obama had everyone on the convention floor on their feet. >> i love michelle. i love her. >> some had tears in their eyes as mrs. obama spoke passionately about her husband. >> i have seen firsthand that being president doesn't change who you are. no, it reveals who you are. >> she says this president is a man whose upbringing and family values mean he'll look out for all americans. >> when it comes to rebuilding our economy, barack is thinking about folks like my dad and like his grandmother. that's why he cut

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sponsored by the letters d-n-c and will be delivered by julian castro. that's him on the left by his brother, joaquinn, texas state rep, running for mayor. this is the first time a latino ever filled that coveted keynote spot. but what is it bringing people to the polls? people who look like them or policies that benefit them. krystal, we talked about this before the show, it is been putting people on the stage, it is about the policies the party is all about. when you have party like the gop hostile to hispanics as well as women, as well as guys, as well as blacks, it'll be hard -- >> hostile people. >> absolutely. it is hard it bring people into the party. as lindsay graham said, they are not creating enough angry white men to continue on the path that they are on. the demographics are moving against them if they are going to continue to be that way. and if hispanics show up and deliver this for barack obama, the gop will have to come to jesus and change their stance on immigration. >> i think that's right. much has been written about the fact that thi

we'll hear from julian castro, the mayor of san antonio and also a twin. his brother is in politics as well. michelle obama has a speech in prime time and her job will be very similar to ann romney's job, which is accent wait the personal and highlighting president obama as a father and family man. dana bash, what do you expect her to say? >> looking back four years ago, she was kind of seen as a potential liability. she was kind of harsh and the goal was to soften her. >> now she's so much more popular -- >> he wishes he had her approval numbers. >> which tends to happen with first ladies. kind of val dater for her husband. and her speech will talk about her own accomplishments and some of the things she's done in the white house with children and with -- >> the whole health. >> nutrition and things like that. those are some of the things i'm told she'll talk about. >> the big event will be julian castro's speech. i didn't realize that's the first time a latino -- that stuns me for democrats and republicans. i find it shocking. >> it is given how importan

marco rubio's and julian castro. rubio saying my dad worked at the bar at the back of the room so i could stand at the front of the room and julian castro saying my mom and grandmother held a mop so i could hold the mic. little variations on the theme, julian talking more about his mom doing community organizing so that everyone could have that chance and marco rubio talking about individuals making it on their own. i think we learn a lot about, we tend to sometimes see the hispanic communities as a monolith. i think that would be a lot of fun. i think both of them are obviously future superstars of their party. >> melinda, the jon stewart last week was mocking the rnc calling it the road to jeb bush 2016. i wanted to e-mail them and say no, you should call it the road to losing to hillary in 2016. i see everybody's going to lose to hillary. the most interesting competitor for hillary i think is condoleezza rice, which would be an extraordinary campaign, two smart women, widely admired, tough as nails. it would be an

vamos a hablar para conocer un poco más del orador julián castro, vamos ahora con jorge buenas noches. >> gracias, el presidente de méxico peña nieto coordina el traspaso con el equipo de calderón. aclaro que es un euqipo de transcición y no serán quienes lo acompañaran. >> enrique capriles de venezuela sería vencedor en el simulacro este fin de semana frente al presidente hugo chávez. la revelación fue hecha hoy por el diario español quién dijo tener acceso. >> en colombia el presidente santos comienza paz con la farc. y desde bogotá por acabar con esto. >> en colombia ya no hay dudas. hace seis mesese inició negociaciones con la farc >> con la firma de un acuerdo marco entre el gobierno nacional y las farc, que establece una hoja de ruta para llegar a un acuerdo final que temrine esta violencia entre hijos de una misma nación. >> este acuerdo nacio gracias a canales de comunicación del anterior gobierno. tres los las premisas que se mida en años y no meses. >> aprender para no crear falsas expectativas. lograr el fin del conflicto y no su prolongacion. y no ceder nad

y ademÁs, con solo 37 aÑos de edad, juliÁn castro, el alcalde mÁs joven de una ciudad metropolitana, y darÁ el discurso principal de la convenciÓn democrata, marÍa elena salinas lo entrevistÓ, y entrevistas mias con el senador marco rubio, y jeff bush. rubio nos dijo quÉ sintiÓ al ser descartado a la vicepresidencia, y el hermano de bush explica por quÉ a republicanos les cuesta seducir a votantes hispanos, y ann romney, presenta el lado humano de su esposo, y dice que su familia tambiÉn es una fanmilia de inmigrantes, comenzamos. ♪. ♪♪. ♪. ♪. >>> vamos al punto, con jorge ram ramos. >>> vamos al punto. acabamos de regresar de la convenciÓn republicana en tampa, y vamos a ver el inicio de la convenciÓn democrata en charlotte en carolina del norte, estamos en dos formas distintas de ver el presente y futuro, pocas veces en la historia en estados unidos, tienen opciones tan diferentes. comenzamos con blanca rosa que se adelantÓ y estÁ en charlotte cuanta convenciÓn democrata, blanca rosa. >>> es el turno demÓcratas, los Últimos detalles para la convenciÓn que

castro. >> yes, julian castro, exactly, he's the youngest mayor of the seventh largest city in his country. an extraordinary story. he has an identical twin brother who will be appearing on that stage to introduce him. so don't think it's an optical illusion. once it happens there will be two of them on the stage. i talked to him earlier, he watched barack obama when he cave a keynote speech, and of course, it really turned him into a giant national figure. and he said he cannot, cannot bear to think that people are going to judge him against that speech. he's so nervous. >> like barack obama, the son of a single mother. also a harvard law school grad. his twin brother joaquin is coming to the stage right now to introduce him. he's running for congress in san antonio, up on the ballot in november. >> and, again, this is the postcard of the future, as they like to say, with the changing demographics in this country. but he is the first hispanic keynote speaker at a democratic national convention. a quick thought, donna? >> barbara jordan, 1976, of course, barack obama, 2004, this is an oppo

presentó a su hermano gemelo, el alcalde de san antonio julián castro. >>> hace 4 años estados unidos estuvo al borde de una depresión, el presidente tomó acción y ahora hemos visto 4,5 millones de nuevos empleos, ahora tenemos que hacer una elección, un país donde la clase media paga más para que los ricos paguen menos. >>> pero una encuesta dice que el porcentaje ha bajado a un 47% los que tienen una opinión desfavorable subió al 49%, por eso era una buena idea es que hablara alguien que es más popular que el mismo presidente . >>> barack conoce el sueño americano porque lo ha vivido y quiere que en el país todos tengan la misma oportunidad y él cree que cuando usted ha trabajado duro y bien y ha entrado por la puerta de la oportunidad, no tiene que cerrarla tras de usted, tiene que darle la oportunidad a otros, si la casa blanca ha cambiado a mi esposo, cuando se trata de su carácter, su convicc. > barack obama sigue siendo el mismo hombre. >>> la primera dama quería recordar a las personas qué clase de hombre es el presidente barack obama y el presidente vio el disc

these are rising stars and twins julian and joaquin castro. they are live with us next hour. >>> tonight at the dnc, bill clinton will take the stage. we're bringing in the big guns this morning. we'll talk to robert gibbs. he'll stop by to talk to us. and much more. "starting point" live from charlotte, north carolina. >>> two california democratic delegates have been kicked out of the convention for getting completely drunk. one passed out, and the other was accused of impersonating a member of congress. they knew he wasn't a real number of congress because he was buying his own drinks with his money. so they knew right there. [ male announcer ] what if you had thermal night-vision goggles, like in a special ops mission? you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep, you'd be targeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. trade co

the keynote speech from julian castro mayor of san antonio. then first ly, michelle obama, making the case in primetime for four more years for the president. >> announcer: from nbc news, "decision 2012." the democratic national convention live from charlotte, north carolina. >>> good evening from charlotte, the arena home to the bobcats. tonight it is noisy and about the democrats. we get our first primetime glimpse of the message they have planned. days after tampa, 63 days until the election and a lot has changed as we said at the top of the broadcast since the days of hope and change, the last democratic convention in '0 #. tonight we hear from a man billed as a rising star, young mayor of san antonio and from a more established star, first lady, michelle obama. our team is in place for all of it including the largest fleet

vamos a hablar para conocer un poco más del orador julián castro, vamos ahora con jorge buenas noches. >> gracias, el presidente de méxico peña nieto coordina el traspaso con el equipo de calderón. aclaro que es un euqipo de transcición y no serán quienes lo acompañaran. >> enrique capriles de venezuela sería vencedor en el simulacro