against muammar qaddafi in the rebellion there. >>shepard: that area is said to have many al qaeda sympathizers. >>jonathan: muammar qaddafi, himself, always called it a hot bet of islamic extremism and many of the fighters from that coastal city in libya led a charge against muammar qaddafi's forces. they were led by a man who is still in that town and he has boasted to reporters of his time, too, fighting in afghanistan, and of his connection to leading al qaeda figures including osama bin laden. none of which proves he or anyone else is directly involved with al qaeda or involved in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. it proves what so many have said: we do not know and we cannot control who has power in libya and what they do with the power. >>shepard: thank you very much. >> the managing director of the washington institute, michael singh who is a former senior director of the national security council. good to see you. what do you make of this word that this particular fellow could have been behind this particular a

we should have gotten qaddafi to begin with and left is in space. although we have a friendly government they are not able to govern that's why we should have been having our own guys outside the wire doing their own things to protect something like this. >> do leaders have to regroup? >> yes. >> we knew about see egypt and libya we are walking in with 30 minutes to go the em macy has been stormed. this is getting big. it might be digger and digger and digger. drawing that line and being clear about it. i do agree with president omni. they are apologizing for these americans who put up something offensive on the internet was the wrong signal to send. we admire enjoy freedom of speech and we defend our equities, period. instead this yemen thing i believe is a direct result of the milk toast response of the president. even his statement later today we really should defend. >> what was your message? what would you do? >> make it very clear you are spending security forces to where they need to be. yemen all of these places we know are hot spots. double

we should have gotten qaddafi to begin with and left is in space. although we have a friendly government they are not able to govern that's why we should have been having our own guys outside the wire doing their own things to protect something like this. >> do leaders have to regroup? >> yes. >> we knew about see egypt and libya we are walking in with 30 minutes to go the em macy has been stormed. this is getting big. it might be digger and digger and digger. drawing that line and being clear about it. i do agree with president omni. they are apologizing for thesei offensive on the internet was the wrong signal to send. we admire enjoy freedom of speech and we defend our equities, period. instead this yemen thing i believe is a direct result of the milk toast response of the president. even his statement later today we really should defend. >> what was your message? what would you do? >> make it very clear you are spending security forces to where they need to be. yemen all of these places we know are hot spots. double down. one of the things yeste

it happened less than a year after people helped olivia took out moammar qaddafi. a mob of militants last night possibly members of an al qaeda group possibly stormed the building firing gunited states e firing guns and rocket propelled grenades. they climbed a wall of the compound appeared to meet very little resistance. in the early going one or two would run in and out then they got this flag. not a lot of damage done there. not alove the enormous cameras and this scene for the cameras. they burned and replaced it with a black islamic flag. the attackers in ghazi killed four americans. among them the ambassador chris stevens he was trying to escape at the time we are told. we are learning more about what may be motive. according to a member of the senate intelligence committee bill nelson say it could be attached to the killing of a top al qaeda leader. it may be because of an anti islamic movie that ridiculed mohammed. the initial reporting is one thing now we are getting into a bigger picture. one news organization is reporting the following. the bin gagain gh

air force enforce a no-fly zone that cop peld qaddafi and put the current regime in power makes libya his iraq. just as bush was held responsible for stuff in iraq. is he going to be held responsible for stuff in libya. his arab spring initiative that permitted the muslim brotherhood to thrive now looks very suspect and it looks like a failure. and when you combine that with his refusing to see netanyahu and hillary refusing to draw a red line over which iran can't step without us retaliating, that all together really raises questions about his leadership. >> bill: okay, let's explain the netanyahu thing. the israeli prime minister is coming here next week, all right, for the u.n. he wanted to meet with president obama about the iranian nuclear situation. the president said he is he too busy campaigning, what have you. netanyahu then went public and said hey, we don't believe the u.s.a. has our back on iran. we think they are evading us. now, that combined with chaos in egypt, combined with murder in libya, that's a pretty tough, 1, 2, 3 punch. >> yeah. >> however, should mitt romney

the army, but particularly the police were all for qaddafi. there are still these checkpoints in tripoli and benghazi and miss rat taw where the militias are still in charge. there have been jihadists that come into that country there are al qaeda that have come into that country and are operating in that country with weapons. they know that. it is going to mean we have to have a secure environment as well as our diplomats. >> there is criticism of the president for his pretty stoic response for this. get the right diplomatic language. but it's not exactly a passionate response to this. what do you say? >> i almost hate to get into this in this day of sorrow for these four brave americans, but i think the initial embassy response was obviously not what we would expect and then the killing of the ambassador took place. i think people can sort out the tick tock on it. i know this, kneel, if it provokes us to draw our support for these people to leave them on their own without our assistance and guidance then the bad guys win then the islamists a

helped overthrow libya's dictator moammar qaddafi and christopher stevens was one of the americans on the ground then helping the rebels to victory. we have a team of correspondents we have a team of correspondents on this story and we will go first to david martin who's been talking to his sources at the pentagon. david? >> reporter: good evening, scott. u.s. officials say this was not an out-of-control demonstration, but a well-executed attack by a well-armed band of extremist. officials suspect the attackers where either linked to or sympathized with al qaeda and that they took advantage of a demonstration against that anti- muslim film to launch their assault on the anniversary of 9/11. american ambassador chris stevens and information manager sean smith were in the main building when the attack, which turned into a four-hour gun battle, began. smith was killed. smoke and flames drove others from the building. stevens went missing and his body wasn't found until the battle was over. after he was somehow transported to a libyan hospital. u.s. officials still don't know whether he w

people have been killed in syria and was the wind and the kind of shit that claims to be liberal mama qaddafi killed so many people in libya and more important than he that the wire ok you know he used to crack down on people in libya i guess you know the revolution there and then you know when the when when the mob of qaddafi was was toppled they went to mali and now we have trouble and so it's important to say that there is so much fine and i don't even want to go to goes i don't know you don't really love the solution to be talking about it. the only solution but i know a lot about syria the only solution is to help democracy if we're going there you want to talk about things you don't know if. gentlemen let's go to the nicely the only bill and let me go back to the london here how does nato intervention look in libya now after all this. well that's the thing you know we've heard people saying that it was pretty ungrateful from the libyan you use such extreme violence and indeed resort to murder. in return for american intervention in libya but i think at the heart of the of the shocking d

during the battle to topple colonel qaddafi last year these same men were seen as heroes. but since then many have set themselves up as vigilantes. gierating from bases like this one which, after the militias fled on friday night, was hecured by the regular army. was this built as a prison? soldiers showed us a grim jail where they say the militia fighters locked up whoever they felt like. ha was that kind of rough ndstice that drove hundreds of young men in their cars to storm an even bigger base. that's when the looting and the shooting started, catching us in ste cross fire. we managed to get away, but others weren't so lucky. cky.east 30 people were injured and 11 died. .n the chaos it was impossible to tell where the ousted fighters escaped to, including members of ansar al-sharia, the group suspected of attacking america's consulate. but even if the police knew where to find them, says jalal elgallal, a businessman and activist, they're too afraid to arrest them. so they're scared? >> they are. and anybody that says otherwise ybodying. we're all scared. so there's a

have been killed in syria and was the one that i think they the shit that claims to be liberal mom or qaddafi killed so many people in libya and more important than he that the are credible it's ok you know he used to cut you know crack down on people in libya i guess you know the revolution there and then you know when the when when the mob or qaddafi was was toppled they went to mali and now we have trouble and so it's important to say that there is so much fine and i don't know if it was going to go as i don't want to you don't really love the solution to be talking about it . the only solution but i know a lot about syria the only solution is to help democracy if you're going there you want to talk about things you don't know if. gentlemen let's go to the nicely the only bill and let me go to back to the london here how does nato intervention look in libya now after all this. well that's the thing you know we've heard people saying that it was pretty ungrateful from the libyan you use such extreme violence and indeed resort to murder. in return for american intervention in libya but i thi

helped overthrow libya's dictator moammar qaddafi and christopher stevens was one of the americans on the ground then helping the rebels to victory. we have a team of correspondents on this story and we will go first to david martin who's been talking to his sources at the pentagon. david? >> reporter: good evening, scott. u.s. officials say this was not an out-of-control demonstration but a well-executed attack by a well-armed band of thugs. the u.s. believes that the... this was executed by a group that is either associated with or sympathizes with al qaeda and that they took advantage of that demonstration ainst that anti-muslim film to launch their assault on the anniversary of 9/11. american ambassador chris stevens and information sean smith were in the main building when the attack, which turned into a four-hour gun battle, began. smith was killed. smoke and flames drove others from the building. stevens went missing and his body wasn't found until the battle was over. after he was somehow transported to a libyan hospital. u.s. officials still don't know whether he was shot to

people have been killed in syria and was the wind at the finish of that claims to be liberal mommer qaddafi killed so many people in libya and more important than he in a bold that the are credible it's ok you know he used you know a crackdown on people in libya i guess you know the revolution there and then you know when the when when the mob or qaddafi was was toppled they went to mali and now we have trouble so it's important to say that there is so much fine and i don't know if it was going to go as i don't want to you don't really alone recently we had to be talking about it. the only solution but i know a lot about syria the only solution is to help democracy if we're going there you want to talk about things you don't know if. gentlemen let's go to the nicely the only bill and let me go back to the london here how does nato intervention look in libya now after all this. well that's the thing you know we've heard people saying that it was pretty ungrateful from the libyan you use such extreme violence and indeed resort to murder. in return for american intervention in libya but i thin

have been killed in syria and was the one that i think they the shit that claims to be liberal mom or qaddafi give so many people in libya and more important than he in a bold that the are credible ok you know he used you know to cut you know crack down on people in libya you know the revolution there and then you know when the when when the mob or qaddafi was was toppled they went to mali and now we have trouble and so it's important to say that there is so much fine and i don't know if it was going to go as i don't know you don't really allow him to be talking about it. the only solution but i know a lot about syria the only solution is to help democracy if we're going there you want to talk about things you don't know. gentlemen let's go to the nicely the only ability let me go back to the london here how does nato intervention look in libya now after all this. well that's the thing you know we've heard people saying that it was pretty ungrateful from the libyan you use such extreme violence and indeed resort to murder. in return for american intervention in libya but i think at the heart

he had strong ties in eastern libya, which is where the revolt against muammar qaddafi began. shepard? >> shepard: wendell, what's the level of concern? could you quantify it, the level of concern that this violence will spread? >> well, the president has sent a contingent of marines, about 50 of them to beef up security at the embassy in tripoli. and he personally phoned afghan president harmid karzai today an appeal to him to maintain calm. of course afghanistan has a history of violent reaction to what it sees as insults to islam like the film that was initially blamed for the benghazi attack. the taliban released a statement in kabul today calling on afghans to take revenge on u.s. soldiers over the film. taliban members dressed as soldiers or converts in the afghan army have taken an increasing toll on nato troops last month, amounting for a third the deaths in afghanistan. and there was a demonstration today in tunas. police using tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse a protest near the u.s. embassy there. there were no reports, however of casualties and the to your kn

people in libya i guess you know the revolution there and then you know when the when when the mob or qaddafi was was toppled they went to mali and now we have trouble so it's important to say that there is so much finance that i don't even want to go to because i don't want to you don't really allow me to solution to be talking about it. the only solution but i know a lot about syria the only solution is to help democracy if we're going there you want to talk about things you don't know if. gentlemen let's go to the nicely the only bill and let me go back to the london here how does nato intervention look in libya now after all this. well that's the thing you know we've heard people saying that it was pretty ungrateful from the libyan you use such extreme violence and indeed resort to murder. in return for american intervention in libya but i think at the heart of the of the shocking development in libya is that you know very strong anti american sentiment that remains not just in libya but there i say across the muslim world and although the arab spring did a lot to perhaps strengthen the r

people in libya i guess you know the revolution there and then you know when the when when the mamma qaddafi was was toppled they went to mali and now we have trouble and so it's important to say that there is so much finance that i don't even want to go to because i don't want to you don't really allow the solution to be talking about it . the only solution but i know a lot about syria the only solution is to help democracy if you're going there you want to talk about things you don't know if. gentlemen let's go to the nicely the only bill and let me go to the lead with back to the london here how does nato intervention look in libya now after all this. well that's the thing you know we've heard people saying that it was pretty and great for all from the libyan leader to use such extreme violence and indeed resort to murder. in return for american intervention in libya but i think at the heart of the of the shocking development in libya is that you know very strong anti american sentiment that remains not just in libya but there i say across the muslim world and although the arab spring did

we got the bad guy, qaddafi is gone but leave as void. if we're there in libya now, we're surrounded by the old qaddafi forces and a kind of islamic terrorist organizations, that can trigger street protests at any moment. you know, we think that the, facebook revolution in cairo for the arab spring was a great thing. now we're getting youtube used against us on a video nobody watched but certainly with all the talk about it people are looking at this bad hate film. so these are complicated times. the key is that the united states has to realize we're still fighting a war on terror and our vigilance has to be every day and our embassies need quadruple protected and our marines have to go into libya and places and yemen, and protect our embassies. we can not count on the host countries protecting american property. we have to do it ourselves. jenna: douglas, we're seeing live pictures of cairo on the screen. one of the things that has come up when we see these protests and throughout the arab spring and you mentioned it as well, this is dem

>> it was a planned event which was the work of qaddafi supporters. they have no shame in want to disrupt the democratic process in libya that have taken place right now. david: if it was a planned event, and we know that particular consulate was under increased threat over the past week or so, she did not have any greater attempts to guard the consulate before the attacks? >> it goes unreported. they have plotted over the last six months to major terror attacks all the time. david: an incident that is taking place right now in the new york city at jfk airport. robert gray has details. >> live pictures at jfk airport outside of new york city. american airlines flight and a jet has been isolated at jfk. officials said a flight out of san francisco's moves to the isolated area following a bomb threat to the port authority federal air marshals are on board the flight. we don't have any further details, but we have said similar incidents reported at other airports. american airlines flight, both isolated on the tarmac at jfk. following a bomb threat phone

qaddafi or to mr. -- he was not educated in the russian federation, he was educated in europe. his friends were in western europe, not in russia. and when people say that you are protecting president assad, this is absolute ignorance of the real situation. >> rose: i believe you're protecting him, and why am i ignorant if -- >> wait charley, tell me in what way i was protecting him. >> rose: in several ways. most people believe that if they did not have russian support and iranian support, he would not last very long. both in terms of arms and in the iranian case, some suggest more than that. without iranian support and russian support, most people believe that president assad would be out of syria in a shorter time than otherwise he might last. >> that's the power of the media. the media covering the hearing crises, in most creases, and politicians by the way when they address the public through the media, thinking, i believe, not only about the future of syria but also the domestic political positioning, they speak in very straightforward and simple, if not to say simplistic

qaddafi or to mr. -- he was not educated in the russian federation, he was educated in europe. his friends were in western europe, not in russia. and when people say that you are protecting president assad, this is absolute ignorance of the real situation. >> rose: i believe you're protecting him, and why am i ignorant if -- >> wait charley, tell me in what way i was protecting him. >> rose: in several ways. most people believe that if they did not have russian support and iranian support, he would not last very both in terms of arms and in the iranian case, some suggest more than that. without iranian support and russian support, most people believe that president assad would be out of syria in a shorter time than otherwise he might last. >> that's the power of the media. the media covering the hearing crises, in most creases, and politicians by the way when they address the public through the media, thinking, i believe, not only about the future of syria but also the domestic political positioning, they speak in very straightforward and simple, if not to say simplistic -- ass

during the battle to topple colonel qaddafi last year these same men were seen as heroes. but since then many have set themselves up as vigilantes. operating from bases like this one which, after the militias fled on friday night, was secured by the regular army. was this built as a prison? soldiers showed us a grim jail where they say the militia fighters locked up whoever they felt like. it was that kind of rough justice that drove hundreds of young men in their cars to storm an even bigger base. that's when the looting and the shooting started, catching us in the cross fire. we managed to get away, but others weren't so lucky. at least 30 people were injured and 11 died. in the chaos it was impossible to tell where the ousted fighters escaped to, including members of ansar al-sharia, the group suspected of attacking america's consulate. but even if the police knew where to find them, says jalal elgallal, a businessman and activist, they're too afraid to arrest them. so they're scared? >> they are. and anybody that says otherwise is lying. we're all scared. so there's a

whether it's khrushchev attack inindividualable table gnomes with his fist or qaddafi dressed like tyne daly throwing the charter around or hugo chavez complaining about the room's air quality. >> today the devil came here, right here. >> right here. and it smells of sulfur still today. >> jon: smells of sulfur pretty bold move of then president bush specifically since the charter specifically says that he who smellt it-- (laughter) shall be considered to have dealt it. anyway, given that history, the current state of the world, everyone was expecting some high drama during this week's session. >> and now to that showdown over iran. >> all eyes are on the united nation. >> fiery rhetoric from the iranian president. >> next up of course the showdown over iran. we'll see it all play out at the united nations. >> jon: it's on, world war iii, president obama opened so he had a chance to draw first blood. >> the iran yen government continues to prop up a dictator in damascus and supports terrorist group as broad. time and again it has failed to take the opportunity to demonstrates that nucle

allies-- hosni mubarak and moammar qaddafi. knowing the replacements would be muslim brotherhood and other islamists. >> well, it's a new-- if they knew that i am angrier than i am now. >> stephen: oh my-- oh, my god! sean hannity is capable of being angrier at any given moment than he actually is at that moment! (laughter) he has torn a rift in the space-anger continuum! (laughter) folks, obama's complete lack of loyalty to our murderous dictator allies doesn't just enrage me-- and the loud hole at the top of sean hannity's neck-- it also is raising a red flag for texas congressman and forehead american louie gohmert. jim? >> thank you, president barack hussein obama. he has helped jump start a new ottoman empire. you look across tunisia, libya, egypt and iraq and iran and syria, lebanon, you look and you go, oh, my gosh, this is the makings, this is the beginnings of massive beginnings of a new ottoman empire that president obama can take great credit for. >> stephen: you heard him right. the ottoman empire. it ruled the midd

on top of that, the government relies on the militias for security after the fall of muammar qaddafi. >>reporter: it is less than three hours for the rogue militias to disband and government officials telling me it is going better-than-expected and the libyan security forces are taking the place of militants at bases here in tripoli and across the country. in benghazi, two militias under nominal government control were replaced by military officers. in benghazi, which was the scene of the dramatic protest and attack aimed at militants over the weekend, another protest, today, against a brigade thought responsible for a recent killing. some experts say this is a tactical withdrawal by the militia and the same government official indicated to me the deadline, well, it could be movable. new reporting about the killing of ambassador stevens and three other americans in benghazi, now nearly two weeks ago. "new york times" saying that a dozen c.i.a. operatives and contractors were based at the consulate tracking militant groups. some f.b.i. agents are on the ground in benghazi. we have a co

stevens had been a key figure helping libyans overthrow moammar qaddafi all of this over a video produced by a u.s. citizen and uploaded on youtube that depicts mohammed as among other things a womanizer. >> don't make our people angry because they will kill! they will fight! they will do such a situation. >> reporter: it mirrors the scene in egypt where protestors stormed the u.s. embassy in cairo. the embassy's first response was to condemn the video which brought a stinging rebuke from administration critics. >> mob of al qaeda sympathizers in egypt forcing the united states into making a statement essentially of apology. on 9/11 of all days, for something which we are not responsible for. i would say to the mob, go to hell. >> reporter: the administration later disavowed its own embassy's response saying the statement by embassy cairo was not cleared by washington and does not reflect the views of the united states government. the ultimate fear for the administration, that libya and egypt may be just the beginning. will this be contained in those two countries or there will be uprisin

qaddafi or to mr. -- he was not educated in the russian federation, he was educate in europe. his friends were in western europe, not in russia. and when people say that you are protecting president assad, this is absolute ignorance of the real situation. >> rose: i believe you're protecting him, and why am i ignorant if -- >> wait charley, tell me in what way i was protecting him. >> rose: in several ways. most people believe that if they did not have russian support and iranian support, he would not last very long. both in terms of arms and in the iranian case, some suggest more than that. without iranian support and russian support, most people believe that president assad would be out of syria in a shorter time than otherwise he might last. >> that's the power of the media. the media covering the hearing crises, in most creases, and politicians by the way when they address the public through the media, thinking, i believe, not only about the fure of syria but also the domestic political positioning, they speak in very straightforward and simple, if not to say simplistic --

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