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as well as the palestinians to claim their palestinian state. of the one nine hundred sixty seven borders through their you and this is a significant rather some belief for the palestinians because it has taken place within the united nations general assembly which already has a number of physicians on the palestinian question that have been bending and not implemented up to this moment especially the know the one hundred ninety four. that calls for the return of palestinian refugees into their homeland and palestine more than sixty seven million not just our state is now mr gets to go ahead to how we got to the free go ahead mr gaffney go ahead before we go to the break yeah one one ninety one ninety four again. misinterpretation and the warping the whole thing what resolution one ninety four talks about the resolution of refugee problem filing following the war that palestinian refugees jewish refugees pray tell me i have to jump in here so i have to jump in here we have to go to a break after that short break we'll continue our discussion on

not just the palestinians. we should fight arabs and jews to preserve that. >> my opinion is that both sides, people are tired, fatigued and brainwashed and they will not reeble in a way that they would march? the streets. people are saying i care about my four corners and my garden, and it's out of my control and i don't see this rebellion happening. >> clearly i'm the optimist of 2002 of us. in fact, i believe that rather than creating two separate states, one israeli and one palestinian, that we should have a one-state solution where everyone shares in the same land and has equal rights. i know i'm in the minority with this idea. still, the situation in the west bank and in israel is so complicated now that you have a scrambled situation, where the israelis are living amongst palestinians, and palestinians are living amongst israelis, and the question really is how to separate the two people. one of the israeli intellectuals that dealt with this binational situation which we are in is the former deputy mayor

as opposed to palestinians to claim their palestinian state. of the one nine hundred sixty seven borders through their you and this is a significant rather some believe for the palestinians because it has taken place within the united nations general assembly which already has a number of physicians on the palestinian question that have been bending and not implemented up to this moment especially the know the one hundred ninety four. that calls for the return of palestinian refugees into their homeland and palestine more than six or seven million not just our state is now mr gets to go ahead to how we got to the free go ahead mr getting ahead before we go to the break what one ninety one ninety four again. misinterpretation and the war pigs the whole thing what resolution one ninety four talks about the resolution of refugee problem filing following the war that palestinian refugees jewish refugees pray tell me i have to jump in here so i have to jump in here we have to go to a break after that short break we'll continue our discussion on pale

they created a palestinian state. instead, they sought israel's destruction and were joined by newly formed terrorist organizations. the truth is that camp david in 2000 and again in 2008, israel made far reaches for peace. they were met with rejection and even terrorism. in 2005, israel dismantled and entire communities and uprooted thousands of people from their homes. rather then use this opportunity to have a peaceful future, the palestinians and gaza -- thousands of rockets were fired into cities. areas have been turned into a launching pad for rockets into israel he cities and a haven for global terror and an ammunition dump for iranian weapons. they refuse to accept responsibility and make the tough decisions for peace. israel remains committed to peace. we need a peace that will endure, a peaceful that will secure the peace of israel. we have extended our hand for peace to president abbas. we want the palestinian state to recognize israel as a jewish state. that is right, two states for two people. in fact, pr

negotiations can be established in palestinian state and by the way israel is not against a palestinian state israel is against a one sided clear relations we want to negotiate to have security first of all and that the palestinians will recognize that israel is not just a state but a jewish state and a homeland for jews and we want to live in peace that's all we just don't want to do in some area will become another terrorist base as we already have and i mean proponents of course say the peace talks might go better if we're between two more say equal entities rather than israel the powerhouse in a comparable light weight palestine is not a valid point. no because the whole negotiations is to establish a new palestinian state and the oslo accords that was signed in ninety three spoke about the fact that the establishment of a new palestinian state can be only through direct negotiations so now what mahmoud abbas does it's not a step forward it's a step aside or even you know a step. back because it doesn't lead to a new palestinian state is just one sided resume and meaningless it will

leader of the palestinian authority in the west bank is somehow driven in his policies. by hatred of the jews which and i presume that the systematic security cooperation between the p.a. and israel is the highest expression of that i mean this is you know this is beyond childish to make such arguments i mean really you know the issue here is israeli occupation of palestine the issue here is reverse arresting and reversing israeli impunity which allows it to continue. attacking and colonizing palestinians in the occupied territories those are the real value having to go to eighteen times and there has to be a resolution. is that a serious question. is that a serious question did an aerial. question anyway only answer that. any point in those negotiations except withdrawal to the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries in accordance with un resolutions did israel at any point in those resolutions accept. scuse me in those negotiations accept the resolution of the palestinian refugee question in accordance with the relevant un resolutions and international law did israel at an

is so important to palestinians. here in gaza a lot of significance because the palestinian territories geographically noncontiguous we have the west bank. in the west bank in particular societally with the power of mahmoud abbas and here in gaza particular associated with the power of hamas now recently of course we've had the two thousand and twelve gaza war a seven day war with the state of israel and palestinian resistance groups including the resistance wing of hamas as part of the brigades used force against the state of israel in the conflict is. starkly different in terms of positioning with the state of israel in terms of engaging with the state of israel in comparison to mahmoud abbas who is seen in the western world as much more moderate in comparison to have presenting a more hardline position including armed resistance against the state of israel so what we have here is a palestinian political dynamic as well if the western world and indeed the u.n. does not support this increased status for the palestin

gaza and israel claims its bombardment of the gazans is in self-defense at the same time denying the palestinians in the besieged trip the same right to work in israel possibly achieve in this operation called pillar of cloud beyond perpetuating still another cycle of violence. and. to cross-talk the gaza crisis i'm joined by harry fear in gaza he is a documentary filmmaker and activist in amman we have money in rabbani he is coeditor of and in pittsburgh we cross to greg roman he is the director of the pittsburgh jewish community relations council all right gentlemen crosstalk roles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want to here a year in gaza can you give us an update what you've seen over the last twenty four thirty six hours of the last time frame that you just said we've seen the killing of two baby children one two and one four year old earlier today we saw the killing of a fifteen year old to israel these are collateral damage but to us and to the gazan people these are. unacceptable murders ok craig how do you assess the situation there's a lot of rumors of a cease fire in

palestinians don't. so in the absence of even-handed american mediation, which we haven't seen, obviously, the palestinians have to find other ways to create leverage against the israelis or the israelis are going to continue to think that perpetual occupation is a viable policy option. unfortunately that's what the past 20 years of u.s. mediated negotiation has let us do. >> let me push back to the point that you had in 1999 and 2000 the best effort, and last effort of bill clinton, camp david meeting and from his perspective, what he's written about since and spoken about since, yasser arafat did not come prepared to make a deal, yasser arafat waiting for a sign-off from the various arab leaders, he didn't get that, and he didn't have the courage to lead, and that was the moment. there have been other moments, missed opportunities, even often said, under arafat he never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity, and you also have the failures of the two palestinian factions to come together. so isra

leader of the palestinian authority in the west bank is somehow driven and his policies. by hate. rid of the jews which i presume that the systematic security cooperation between the p.a. and israel is the highest expression of that i mean this is you know this is beyond childish to make such arguments i mean really you know the issue here is israeli occupation of palestine issue here is reverse arresting and reversing israeli impunity which allows it to continue. attacking and colonizing palestinians in the occupied territories those are the real deal but we in fact have eighteen times and there hasn't been a resolution. is that a serious question. is that a serious question did an aerial. question anyway only answer that. any point in those negotiations except withdrawal to the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries in accordance with un resolutions did israel at any point in those resolutions accept. scuse me in those negotiations accept the resolution of the palestinian refugee question in accordance with the relevant un resolutions and international law did israel at any point i

ok hamas does not care about how many palestinian civilians are killed because they don't do anything in terms of building infrastructure protect they and therefore as you know you want to kill israeli as they really are some schoolyards. in why israel cares about civilians. still i mean i mentioned here gentlemen gentlemen nothing's been mentioned here they did the gaza strip is under siege go ahead i would still like to know which arabic newspaper reflects this absolutely ridiculous distorted version of recent history we are now being served up. secondly. is is are the claims that greg norman is making about how mass somehow a justification for mass murder by israel in the gaza strip whether in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine or today or in the next round now peter you mentioned the seeds i mean there are underlying factors here there is the occupation there is that continuously deprived right of self-determination of the palestinian people and of course in more recent years there is a siege and blockade of the gaza strip that's the context what we're seeing now is a sy

authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms of would just like to make two observations to what really are first of all in terms of recognition and so on while he. entirely correct to say that that recognition does not yet exist there are in fact and we've just seen it in the past few days now. and there have been for a while primarily through through the egyptians negotiations between israel and hamas and direct negotiations to be sure but negotiations going on for quite some time and that appear much more serious than any talks that have taken place between between israel and the palestinian leadership. and secondly regarding how mouse's position on a two state settlement and has in fact frequently. more or less explicitly stated that it would accept a palestinian state on the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries it's a different formulation emerging from a different approach than that of the p.l.o. leadership in the west bank granted but in effect the

state simply palestinian territories the palestinian people do not have rights like israelis do as a result of the status of national entity and so this is a bid by mahmoud abbas to upgrade the status of the palestinian territories. to try and move towards a recognition of the palestinian territories palestine and here in gaza this has a lot of significance because the palestinian territories geographically contiguous that we have the west bank and gaza in the west bank particularly associated with the power of mahmoud abbas and here in gaza particular associated with the us recently of course we have the two thousand and twelve gaza war seven eight day war with the state of israel and palestinian resistance groups including the resistance wing of hamas as part of the brigades used force against the state of israel in that conflict now that is starkly different in terms of positioning with the state of israel in terms of engaging with the state of israel in comparison to mahmoud abbas to seen in the western world as much more moderate in comparison to hamas present in the hardline po

is so important for palestinians. to the end of the day we have in here in the middle east we have an israeli state and then we have a normal palestinian state or simply palestinian territories the palestinian people do not have rights like israelis do as a result of the status. national entity and so this is. but status of the palestinian territories. to try and move towards a recognition of the palestinian territories as palestine and here in gaza this has a lot of significance because the palestinian territories geographically noncontiguous we have the west bank and gaza in the west bank particular associated with the power of mahmoud abbas and here in gaza particular associated with the power of hamas now recently of course we've had the two thousand and twelve gaza war seven eight day war with a state of israel and palestinian resistance groups including the resistance wing of hamas as part of this on brigades used force against the state of israel in that conflict that is starkly different in terms of positionin

authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms i would just like to make two observations to what really are first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that recognition does not yet exist there are in fact and we've just seen it in the past few days now. and there have been for a while primarily through through the egyptians negotiations between israel and hamas and direct negotiations to be sure but negotiations going on for quite some time and that appear much more serious than any talks that have taken place between between israel and the palestinian leadership. and secondly regarding how mouse is positioned on a two state settlement and has in fact frequently. more or less explicitly stated that it would accept a palestinian state on the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries it's a different formulation emerging from a different approach than that of the p.l.o. leadership in the west bank granted but

palestinians are preparing for u.n. observer status recognition with the vote just hours away as i mentioned just now i spoke to an excel ski's press secretary for the israeli prime minister he told me that his country has never did rail the palestinian struggle for statehood. we called to mahmoud abbas for years to come and return to the table of negotiations and israel i want to. remind you that israel did everything israel could to proceed to give a chance to this to this process we stopped building stopped building in today in some area for turn months what no government before this government and at the end of the of this. of this step of israel nothing happened palestinians didn't get back to the negotiations they did back very symbolically and it was done in two weeks and it began failed so i think that israel done everything he could to bring back this process but again we have to provide security to israel. close vote and at the united nations is expected in about two hours time from now i'll still be here then

i've spoken to dozens and hundreds of palestinians since this operation has been launched and all palestinians i've spoken to expect things to get greater than they already have been over these last forty eight hours people are expecting a ground incursion we're getting reports various reports about that saying that it may last several days we've had three reports now of the i.d.f. the air force's very afterwards leafleting north parts of the gaza strip in arabic we've seen leaflets saying that we're going to invade the gaza strip so yes people are prepared for that well that is a psychological warfare tactic whether it's going to happen or not we remains to be seen but everyone is on high alert and the gaza strip is as much a cost that i place and it was a week ago dan huge i could jump in there go ahead i love how humanitarian gesture by the i.d.f. is interpreted psychological warfare what they're telling people to do in these leaflets is to not be human shields in front of missile launching facilities nobody has mentioned so far that three israeli civilians were killed in syria my locky in

>> i'm going to let the palestinians speak for themselves. >> let me tell you what the palestinians said after the meeting and that is that they're going to go ahead with this. you have the decade -- deputy secretary of state along with david hale who's been telling the palestinians this ad infinitum along with other members of the government that they are going to go ahead and do this. in addition to that you have more and more governments coming out and saying that they are going to support the palestinian bid despite the arguments that you have made. i'm wondering, i have seen the demarche, and i'm wondering if you don't think you presented your case strongly enough, why it is you're going to begin a very very small minority when this vote happens and you are on the losing side? >> again i'm not going to prejudge a vote that's going to happen tomorrow. obviously we will see speak to the results of the vote after the vote. we are in a position as we panel along in terms of this notion which has been floated around for more than a year that it does not help the peace process, where we a

state or simply palestinian territories the palestinian people do not have rights like israelis do as a result of the the status of national entity and so this is a bid. to upgrade the status of the palestinian territories. to try and move towards a recognition of the palestinian territories as palestine and here in gaza this has a lot of significance because the palestinian territories geographically noncontiguous we have the west bank and gaza in the west bank particular associated with the power of mahmoud abbas and here in gaza particular associated with the power of hamas now recently of course we've had the two thousand and twelve gaza war seven eight day war with the state of israel and palestinian resistance groups including the resistance wing of hamas as part of the brigades used force against the state of israel in that conflict that is starkly different in terms of positioning with the state of israel in terms of engaging with the state of israel in comparison to mahmoud abbas who is seen in the western world as much more moderate in comparison to have mass presenting a mo

i've spoken to dozens and hundreds of palestinians since this operation has been launched and all palestinians i've spoken to expect things to get greater than they already have been over these last forty eight hours people are expecting a ground incursion we're getting reports various reports about that saying that it may last several days we've had three reports now of the i.d.f. . forces very afterwards leafleting north parts of the gaza strip in arabic we've seen leaflets saying that we're going to invade the gaza strip so yes people are prepared for that but that is a psychological warfare tactic whether it's going to happen or not we remains to be seen but everyone is on high alert and the gaza strip is. that i place and it was we can go dand you just jump in there go ahead. i love how humanitarian gesture by the i.d.f. is interpreted psychological warfare what they're telling people to do in these leaflets is to not be human shields in front of missile launching facilities nobody's mentioned so far that three israeli civilians were killed in syria. in southern israel by missiles that we

authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms of i would just like to make two observations to what you were said earlier first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that recognition does not yet exist there are in fact and we've just seen it in the past few days now. and there have been for a while primarily through through the egyptians negotiations between israel and hamas and direct negotiations to be sure but negotiations going on for quite some time and that appear much more serious than any talks that have taken place between between israel and the palestinian leadership. and secondly regarding how mouse's position on a two state settlement has in fact frequently. more or less explicitly stated that it would accept a palestinian state on the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries it's a different formulation emerging from a different approach than that of the p.l.o. leadership in the west bank grant

declaration of palestinian statehood. giving abu maysan some legitimacy and supporting his leadership is critical. >> this is scheduled for the general assembly for november 29th. he lost in the security council which would have been statehood supposedly. now it is a symbolic gesture in the general assembly. hillary clinton said today in ramallah to abu massen, also known as mahmoud abbas, by his proper name, said do not pursue this. this will only create problems for you in congress. you will lose money, you will lose legitimacy, not gain legitimacy. why do you think that's an important step? >> that one vote will hurt but it can be compensated for elsewhere. the point is this man and movement that he heads and this government that he heads in the west bank, is struggling for legitimacy. what hamas has done is become the center of attention and the driving force in -- on the palestinian street -- >> hasn't the train left the station for abbas and fayyad and the others in that wing of the palestinians. >> i was going to s

authority suddenly has a revelation the palestinian authority israel's collaborators the palestinian authority israel slaves and the palestinian authority suddenly discovered being israel slaves the slave master needs us as much as we need them because they do all the dirty work for israel they set up the torture chambers they were press all demonstrations against israel in the west bank they are israel's collaborators so the palestinian authority discovered they can make they can't put punitive sanctions on us because if they do our palestinian authority might collapse and israel didn't like the alternative option the alternative option would be chaos in the west bank norman and so so if there are these suddenly did exactly what khaled mashal did in gaza sort of into jenin we literally got twenty minutes twenty seconds i want to ask you what will happen do you think that this big bone of contention along the way the israeli settlement expansion if this goes through what's going to happen to that is it going to be frozen will what's going to happen briefly if you can. no it won't be

as this argument but to answer the question the fact that the palestinian authority is not. acting in a responsible way is an argument for my side not for yours israel has tried to live in peace with its neighbors it's bent over backwards to grant political rights to the pals already harry and they still do that the palestinians are under siege in gaza feel that israel is trying to make peace with. israel is trying to kill them they've described the last few days as a massacre i will give you a rough direct quote israel is destroying our people and trying to destroy and it is our right and duty as palestinians to defend ourselves and fight for our rights that is the message from gaza norman what is the end game what can the israelis do that they haven't done already ourselves no they know i'm going to norman norman what can the israelis do now that they haven't done before and we will succeed from their point of view. i don't think i don't think there will be there may be a ground incursion but there won't be a ground invasion because both turkey and egypt will be on the pho

cities expelling three hundred thousand palestinians before the state of israel was even announced in one thousand forty eight the result of which would lead to a military offensive by neighboring countries which overwhelmingly objected to the establishment of israel in the land of palestine but they were no match the military superiority of the israeli. army israeli military effectively cleansed much of the territory and following the one thousand and forty eight war they encompass seventy eight percent of palestine now although a ceasefire was declared peace would remain a far away thought as now seven hundred thousand palestinian refugees fled into neighboring arab states in many ways this was the catalyst for the escalating instability in the region and one nine hundred sixty seven another war led to the israeli occupation of the remainder of historic palestine the land that we recognize today as the west bank and gaza it became clear that while the un and other arab countries verbal each championed the plight of the palestinians there would be no international effort to actually

european countries for instance in twenty eleven palestinian sort and finally received membership in the un's cultural agency unesco majority of european states either abstained or objected the bid by the u.n. vote on thursday the czech republic became the only country to say no to the palestinian resolution and many of those who abstained last year decided to support them. well this is this this increased recognition this increase in status in the united nations is a manifestation of increased world international solidarity with the palestinian situation and this will actually bring hopefully a manifest improvement for the palestinians in respect of their access to international law and to have the rule of law applied to their relationship with the state of israel so here in gaza where we just witnessed an israeli military operation exacted on the gaza strip in which fifty nine children were killed seventeen babies were killed palestinians are hoping that this increase in legal status will deter. a another or missile like that in which palestinians believe that the crime of facing w

i've spoken to dozens and hundreds of palestinians since this operation has been launched and all palestinians i've spoken to expect things to get greater than they already have been over these last forty eight hours people are expecting a ground incursion we're getting reports various reports about that saying that it may last several days we've had three reports now of the i.d.f. . forces very afterwards leafleting north parts of the gaza strip in arabic we've seen leaflets saying that we're going to invade the gaza strip so yes people are prepared for that well that is a psychological warfare tactic while there is going to happen a lot we remains to be seen but everyone is on high alert and the gaza strip is as much a cost that i place than it was a week ago dan you just to jump in there go ahead. i love how humanitarian gesture by the i.d.f. is interpreted psychological warfare what they're telling people to do in these leaflets is to not be human shields in front of missile launching facilities nobody's mentioned so far that three israeli civilians were killed in syria. in southern israel

for the palestinian leadership is set to receive huge support for united nations recognition of a palestinian state today, despite strong u.s. and israeli opposition. >> in europe is also divided on the move. a majority of the 27-nation european union including france and spain, is expected to back the palestinians. germany, on the other hand, said it would abstain, and britain is expected to do so as well. >> hundreds of palestinian flags flying in support of statehood. people await the outcome of the united nations vote with bated breath. many have been waiting for this for a long time. recognition of a palestinian state by the united nations. >> today is a very important day for the palestinian people. we are excited. we are happy. we think the international community will not be disappointed at this time. i hope. >> palestinians are pushing to have their united nations status of credit to that of a so- called non member observer state, which does not include voting rights but brings with it the symbolic recognition of statehood. it would also mean the possibility of access to the internat

with an independent palestinian state because the palestinian people are certainly not going to disappear any more than the israeli side. a one state solution with safeguards for both communities. that may not be the best choice as far as israel is concerned, but the choice lies with israel. >> i will go so far. of course that is a very important test for israel. that is why we need them to enter negotiations in the race. and with the right generosity as well. but we do need the palestinians to play their part in that. and negotiation requires the parties to conclude successful and be prepared to make the necessary compromises. it's important test for both sides and are about in the u.n. general assembly should be determined by her determination to see them make a success of the negotiations rather than to demonstrate the palestinian cause is more important than israeli security for israeli security more important than the other way around. it is supporting negotiations. >> speaker, weaver today consequences for palestinians that they place preconditions on peace talks. what does the fore

some of fighting we've witnessed in years between israelis and palestinians if indeed the truce holds it will mean that roughly one point seven million gazans will have a spine now from what we've seen eight days of heavy bombardment at the same time it brings with spikes to roughly a million israelis who live in the south of israel and who've been on the receiving end of constant barrage of rockets but i say if it holds because it is perceived as being rather fragile it certainly is a truce that came by surprise it followed a day of deadly violence in which some twenty eight israelis were injured in the first bus bombing in tel aviv since two thousand and six and there were massive israeli air strikes over gaza so the sense on the ground particularly in the hours leading up to the announcement of the cease fire was that israel was going to go ahead with a ground offensive and to know who has said that he is willing to give this truce a chance he says however he does hold open the possibility to reopen the conflict at a later stage he said and i'm quoting i know that there are citizen

is so important for palestinians. today we've seen widespread demonstrations across ramallah with hundreds of people in the west bank demonstrating supporting manifesting mass aport of this policy to try and get an increased status here in the gaza strip we've seen literally thousands of people supporting. mahmoud abbas's policy and this bid for statehood so here is a strong excitement that the walls will finally recognize the palestinians rights increased sense there is a minority here in the gaza strip the feels that this is not in the palestinian longtime interest particularly with respect to the palestinian refugees rights of our time not being the palestinian refugees who live outside of the middle east who are refugee in the forces well if it's if it's successful i'll be a manifest victory for the palestinian cause if it's on successful hamas will almost certainly be strengthened people will see passes presidency as very much weaker hamas will definitely be strengthened here in the gaza strip something that isra

from the palestinians with sanctions too over this vote in the u.s. of course lawmakers they want to be might cut a part of the sign to the big success of the u.s. in the remodelers emboldened tonight but it could actually have a negative impact broad impact on the west bank and gaza. you know i think that one thing that susan rice said was correct about the only thing she said that was correct was that this is not going to have a huge impact on the ground it's not going to make things significantly different by itself on the ground besides the question of joining international agencies such as the international criminal court or the international court of justice the other aspect that we're looking at here is that this becomes a marker in the shift of discourse on this question globally here in the united states we've been talking for some years about how the us political opinion political discourse has changed away from the traditional uncritical support for israel it has not yet changed the policy but it has massively shifted at the level of discou

authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms of i would just like to make two observations to what you're really are first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that recognition does not yet exist there are in fact and we've just seen it in the past few days now. and there have been for a while primarily through through the egyptians negotiations between israel and hamas and direct negotiations to be sure but negotiations going on for quite some time and that appear much more serious than any talks that have taken place between between israel and the palestinian leadership and secondly regarding how mouse's position on a two state settlement and has in fact frequently. more or less explicitly stated that it would accept a palestinian state on the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries it's a different formulation emerging from a different approach than that of the p.l.o. leadership in the west bank grante

than the palestinians are killing israelis. who do you think holds the high moral ground, if either side does right now, in terms of opinion outside of the immediate region? >> well, i mean, that's a difficult question to ask, because certainly outside the region, there are impressions that are gleaned from the news, from what people read in the newspaper, but really, it's here where history of this conflict doesn't begin last wednesday when the fighting began. we go back a hundred years here and therefore, the high moral ground, if you want to debate that here in the middle east, you will spend the rest of your life speaking yourself blue in the face and you will not come to a conclusion about who holds the higher moral ground. >> anderson, one of the key aspects of this is the involvement of iran. i interviewed shimon peres yesterday, who was very firm about iran have been training and tooling hamas, financing them, supplying them with their long-range rockets and so on. do you think all that is entirely accurate? do you beli

palestinian state. recognizing a palestinian state but the united states, israel and others are not celebrating. we will get the details ahead. the senate is working to change the law. the law that lets cops and the feds read our e-mails. they can just read them if the messages are more than six months old. a change coming that could affect all privacy. i am still on air today because my staff didn't win the record $588 million powerball jackpot. the deal was, if they won, obviously they were thought coming to work and the stage manager was going to anchor and i was going to hang out on their boat. but, no, there are two winners, obviously we hate them. we will talk about them unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b." >> first from fox at 3:00, the united nations general assembly hold a historic vote any moment on recognizing an independent palestinian state. it is expected to pass overwhelmingly despite opposition from the united states and israel which are in a vast majority of the

after all, the palestinians of the gaza strip, the palestinians of the west bank, the palestinians in the -- they are all one people. they all say one objective. it helps the israeli military. in the midst of this recent violence, people front of what is the root cause of this. and the blockade that has been imposed on the gaza support. 1.7 million. i'm going to ask you this. in a matter of days, over a week, the palestinian authority is going to go to the united nations and ask for nonmember observer status for palestine, is that not a joke when you are talking about state recognition on some level when you really have two countries, the west bank and gaza run by different groups and without any political unity? >> absolutely not. this is something that will be presented by the general assembly on behalf of the plo. as i explained to you earlier, the plo remains the sole representative of the palestinian people. on the contrary, it will definitely contribute to the expediting of the israeli military occupation. it will put the palestinians for the first time -- palestine will be an o

that's the palestinian view. also speaking israel's offered various terms of negotiations not been accepted. wolf, the backdrop is the u.s. tried hard to lobby to stop this from happening. it still went down. some diplomats see it as an embarrassment to president obama. last year a threat of a u.s. veto stopped the palestinians from getting what they really wanted, which was full membership. this is u.n. different terminology. they're getting closer to a state, some say symbolic and others say opens to the u.n. international criminal court where the palestinians could go after israeli soldiers or vice ver versa. >> once they have a final vote, richard, let us know. gaining status at the u.n. as a nonmember observer state gives the palestinians access to other important global organizations including as richard mentioned the international criminal court here in washington at the same time a bipartisan group of u.s. senators warned they might cut off u.s. aid to the palestinians if they were ever to use that access

leader of the palestinian authority in the west bank is somehow driven and his policies. by hate. rid of the jews which and i presume that the systematic security cooperation between the p.a. and israel is the highest expression of that i mean this is you know this is beyond childish to make such arguments i mean really you know the issue here is israeli occupation of palestine issue here is reverse arresting and reversing israeli impunity which allows it to continue. attacking and colonizing palestinians in the occupied territories those are the real value having to go to eighteen times and there has to be a resolution. is that a serious question. is that a serious question did an aerial. question did any. any point in those negotiations accept it withdrawal to the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries in accordance with un resolutions did israel at any point in those resolutions accept. scuse me in those negotiations except the resolution of the palestinian refugee question in accordance with the relevant un resolutions and international law did israel at any point in those negoti

the palestinian health ministry has given a higher toll of 34 palestinian children dead. at least 11 israeli children have been wounded in rocket attacks in israel. at the united nations, relief officials expressed alarm amount of children killed. >> attacking schools and religious sites as well as reported the targeting of homes and media outlets in the past 48 hours raised serious concerns about israel's commitment to its obligation under international human rights and humanitarian law. >> children are showing signs of severe distress including an inability to sleep, being afraid to go out in public, clinging to parents, bedwetting, nightmares, and withdrawal. the children are surrounded by images of death and destruction. there are constant funerals going on in the streets. there's a lot of chaos and panic. >> we will have more on gaza after headlines. syrian warplanes are continuing to bomb a suburb of the capital damascus for a second day in a bid to strike rebel-held areas. opposition activists say syrian government attacks have killed at least 23 people since monda

leader of the palestinian authority in the west bank is somehow driven in his policies. by hate. rid of the jews which and i presume that the systematic security cooperation between the p.a. and israel is the highest expression of that i mean this is you know this is beyond childish to make such arguments i mean really you know the issue here is israeli occupation of palestine issue here is reverse arresting and reversing israeli impunity which allows it to continue. attacking and colonizing palestinians in the occupied territories those are the real deal but we in fact have eighteen times and there has been a resolution. is that a serious question. is that a serious question did an aerial. question did any. any point in those negotiations accept it withdrawal to the nine hundred sixty seven boundaries in accordance with un resolutions did israel at any point in those resolutions accept. scuse me in those negotiations accept the resolution of the palestinian refugee question and accordance with the relevant un resolutions and international law did israel at any point in those neg

what will it mean for the palestinians? you saw how he did help to broker the ceasefire. >> the egyptians have played a role in trying to bring the palestinian factions together and to try to come up with some sort of reconciliation between all of the different sides, and i think that they will continue to play that role. the bigger problem is that this occupation is not egypt's fault. it is israel's fault. and it's unreasonable to expect egypt or turkey or any other country to put pressure on palestinians. what should be done instead is quite the opposite. the united states is the largest funder of israel. the united states gives $3 billion a year in u.s. taxpayer money to israel in addition to weapons, in addition to political support. if we're going to be serious about moving forward, the role has to come from the united states, pressure from the united states. it's not enough to demand that it come from egypt. >> diana buttu, many thanks for your time. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >>> back in the u.s., get ou of th