father john nan morris is a fox news contributor. and author spirrow joins us also. you can ask yourself why, you can try and figure out answers, whether it's gun violence, or whether it's video games -rblgs o, movies, mental health, relationship between a parent and child. put all of that aside and look at it in a simpler way, there are two forces in this world. one is good and one is evil. luckily the good usually wins, but in this case the evil won out. >> i think you're onto something. at the same time we can't say the devil made him do it, right? in walking through this fire out and being with the people in the back here in the makeshift memorial, they are telling me we going to be better, we are going to be better. i think what you said, bill, yes we have forces of evil in our own lives, we have forces of good. it's time to double down on love. it just doesn't take a village it takes everyone in that village. bill: let me get the rabbi in here. once they they get the good is argue with the good and make the good go against the good. how do we go about understan