thomas jefferson was fundamentally a pragmatist. he was a bargainer, a grand bargainer, if you will. and believed fundamentally in the survival and success of the american spirit. he risked his life for it. he called the american revolution a bold and doubtful election between submission and the sword. fully expected during the revolution that he could be executed for treason. because of the intensity of that experience, he watched over it for the next 50 years -- 30, 40, 50 years, like a parent over a child in some ways. and felt so strongly about it at ensuring its survival, short of anything that would kill that experiment he would cut a deal. >> you know, the pursuit of liberty, the belief in the ideal of liberty at the core of who he is and yet his life is a contradiction the way he lived his life. >> true. >> you get at that in the book. >> yeah. it's the central contradiction of his life and the central contradiction of the american experience. thomas jefferson, who wrote the words in philadelphia in the summer of 1776 that w

this moment must have been one of the oddest moments in thomas jefferson's life. here is a man totally accustomed to control and power being negotiated with by a woman he owned. and so everything was turned upside down. but he agreed. and our source for this is one of their children, madison hemmings. and for a long time, for many, many decades a century and more we privileged white oral history over the african-american oral history in terms of the hemmings story. i think now because of annette gordon reed and others we've come to see that the weight is not as disproportionate. >> gavin: promise made, promise kept. >> promise kept. the only people freed in jefferson's will were hemmingses. >> gavin: why the art of power? >> you know this because you've been in the arena. the art of power is the ability to project an ideal, to inspire people to reach a certain place but the capacity to make it real as real as possible. there are two different skill sets being the visionary and orator is one thing and a tactician is another. most people are one or the other. the gr

. >> from the jefferson library of monticello, historian henry -- henry wiencek talks about thomas jefferson's relationship to slavery. jefferson sought financial gain through the ownership and labor of his slaves but america's third president called silent profits. the dr. utilize recent archaeological findings at jefferson's estate, monticello and jefferson's papers in his research. this is just over an hour. >> our guest speaker this afternoon is henry wiencek who will be talking about his book "master of the mountain: thomas jefferson and his slaves". it is a subject the thomas jefferson foundation has been a pioneer in researching and presenting thanks largely to the work of senator stenson who collected essays published earlier this year by the university of virginia press. entitled labor for my happiness:slavery at thomas jefferson at monticello. regarded an authority on the subject. the book was released to coincide with an exhibit on slavery at monticello in the smithsonian national museum of african-american history which is co curated by the staff of the thomas jefferson foundation.

and alec played thomas jefferson. >> alec: i played thomas jefferson. >> tina: and he comes out as thomas jefferson -- and the "maury" audience -- >> alec: and the girl was sally hemmings. the mother -- sally hemmings was there. and she had my favorite line on "30 rock." sally hemmings looks at tracy, tracy on "the maury povich show." says, "your father was a dog, tracy jordan!" referring to thomas jefferson. [ laughter ] "your father was a dog!" >> jimmy: thomas jefferson was a dog. >> tina: yeah. >> jimmy: do you think after the show went to syndication that more people started -- did you get a different following? >> tina: i think it's great the show's in syndication now, and i do think people are seeing it for the first time because it's never been, like, a super hugely-rated show on nbc. so, i think there's a lot of people who have probably never seen it who are seeing it, you know, at midnight. >> tracy: they see it now in my projects where i grew up. >> jimmy: they do. and they never saw it before. >> tracy: not where i grew up. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: no. but now -- >> tracy:

thomas jefferson was surely a senior. his ability to master the best part of his political being, his ability to charm, make people fall in love with him without knowing why, a wonderful early chronicler of washington missed his name as he came in and came from a federalist family who thought that jefferson was the devil in, and it. she is falling in love with this man whose rider described as blue, brown and gray. he was charming and gracious and funny, witty, totally beguiling. her husband who was editor of the national intelligence newspaper comes in and says mr. jefferson, sorry i am late. margaret's head exposed because this is the embodiment of everything wrong in american life and she just found him to be the most gracious man he at she ever met. he could disarm you that way. there is something poetic in the fact that william jefferson clinton is william jefferson clinton. president clinton is still campaigning somewhere. i don't know -- maybe he is starting on the next one. i want to talk a little bit, jefferson t

liberty. >> jon: thomas jefferson's rightful ideal of liberty. i believe we have a clip of him explaining that. >> law is the tyrant's will and always so when it violates the rights of individual. [ laughter ] >> jon: so what would this look like? >> they would build a huge perimeter around the whole thing, several smaller perimeters, turrets and towers. they say that they may find living within the community is incatible with their existing idea yoj. >> jon: really less of a jeffersonian iew toap why and freedom panic room. not sure it's the option for the return to lib ber tism somebody has to show the lib ranlz progressive what's real freedom looks like. any taker? >> what i do is stand for those willing to risk their lives for man's freedom, man's liberty so they can pursue happy yns. >> jon: you sir, there in the beautiful jacket with matching hints of emotional fragility, that's glenn beck, the guy who loves freedom too much. [ laughter ] he doesn't even have a tv show anymore. he lives on the internet where laws have no meanings and cats c

one of our great treasures is this flag from thomas jefferson's first inauguration in 1800. you can see, looking at this banner, what it says -- the eagle holds these ribbons, and on one it says t. jefferson, president of the united states, and on the other, john adams is no more. that celebration, the union and be out, -- the unit in the out, that is what we are looking for, the relationship. you can look at these inaugurations as touchstones along our national narrative of the changes that have taken place. some of them are technological. the question of george washington writing in a carriage, somebody else in a car, the introduction of radio, television and the internet to record these things -- there are different steps along the way to record, but a continuity -- a kind of reassuring continuity that is important for holidays. you know that thanksgiving in our houses like this. we serve mashed potatoes this way. we have our inaugurations this way. there is very much the same kind of spirit. i pulled a few simple things to give you a sense of the taste and feel of inaugu

so, thomas jefferson is living in a boarding house across the street from the capital, about where the library of congress stands today, and when the time comes he just walks across the street, and he is just just fairly casually. he goes to the senate chamber to the senate chamber happened to be the largest chamber in the capital. the house with meeting in a room that is today occupied by a single senator, is to give you some sense of the portions, because the house wing had not been built yet. only the senate wing had been constructed. thomas jefferson went to this and he was sworn in by his political opponent, and also his vice president, aaron burr, who was also a political opponent. it must have been a tense inauguration. then, he delivered his inaugural address in a voice that was so low that most people in the room, and the room was absolutely packed from all the the descriptions, most people could not hear what jefferson was saying. thomas jefferson, as president, delivered to public speeches in the entire eight years of his presidency. what was his first inaugural address, and

, franklin roosevelt, abe lincoln and thomas jefferson. thomas jefferson hands off power to his secretary of state james madison. so, both secretaries of state historically and vice presidents have been plausible successors. >> you know, in your advice to the president to make sure his second term is a success and not a failure, like we have said, appoint a successor, you also say to go big with things like immigration reform. you tell him to campaign aggressively in 2014. unlike in 2010 against republicans. all of which you think might help but wouldn't lowering unemployment, bringing the economy to full recovery, balancing a budget, wouldn't all of this also help assure a great second term? what am i missing here? >> nothing. the best politics is a good policy. >> right. >> barack obama, of course, believes that his -- that immigration reform is actually good policy. it will help actually bring down the deficit if we can get a bunch of high achieving immigrants to come pay my social security, doing voter -- doing electoral reform is good

some people say that thomas jefferson was a bs but here is the quotation from thomas jefferson in which he talks about jesus christ, thus as we see this is true and what people say is a lie, and the founders wrote an enormous amount. george washington's the five papers in the university of virginia are now in volume 67 of the projected 90 volumes and he wasn't even one of the writers. alexander hamilton, james madison, thomas jefferson spent hours every day writing letters. so, we have just rooms full of writings from these people and if you just cherry pick a citation here and there, you can prove they were christians were deists or baked potatoes. you can prove they were just about anything because they said so much. soa proof text citation is just a quotation offered with very little context, and in biblical discussions, pretexts' are used to prove what god is thinking. in our discussions of the founders once we collectivize the founders, once you create the founders, then you can apply any sentence ever spoke as if it were the opinion of the entire collective, and that is what has h

thomas jefferson. george washington took the oath in new york. john adams took his oath in philadelphia. and of course president obama will take his second oath ceremoniously this afternoon right here in washington. what sort of weather are we looking at on this monday inauguration day? while we look at the day planner, temps in the 30s. a mix of clouds and sunshine. the winds which aren't too bad this morning south, southeast at 8. by 11:00 we'll increase some in the 10 to 15 range this afternoon gusting to 20 as high temperatures get 41 by 1:00. we'll be 44 for the high and still 43 by 5:00. but by 5:00, especially north of town, a rain or snow shower will be possible. i'm leaning more toward the snow showers with colder air moving in. you can see the snow showers south of pittsburgh this morning. they're tracking to the east, northeast. they'll stay along or north of the pennsylvania turnpike. we've seen a few clouds develop with the winds blowing off the ridgetops here with that west, southwesterly flow aloft. temperatures are relatively mild

thomas jefferson what did you feel? >> guest: we wanted them looking directly at thomas jefferson and the memorial as it was built was looking towards the airport. >> host: what do you think he would say to thomas jefferson if they had a conversation? >> guest: exactly what he did say. he wrote these wonderful words, let's live up to them. we need desolation defeat the nation to live up to it and we justify our independence on the basis of this declaration that says all people are treated equally and they are endowed with rights. so, now we have this obligation as a nation if we justify our independence they have to live up to eight. >> host: the last book was entitled where do we go from here and your book is a wonderful dream. thank you for this book. if you look at it i did something my teachers told me never to do to books because they are sacred. i dhaka year to some of the pages because i wanted to go back and read. >> guest: that is a better complement to in author. >> host: it is used as you can see. thank you s

and thomas jefferson went to the inauguration. he was sworn in by his cousin john marshall and he was sworn in with byrd, one of his political opponents. it must have been a tense inauguration. then he delivered his inaugural address in a voice that was so low that most people in the room, and the room was absolutely packed, most people couldn't hear what jefferson was saying. thomas jefferson as president for eight years delivered two public speeches in the entire eight years of his presidency. one was his first inaugural address, and the second was his second inaugural address. washington and adams went to give their state of the union addresses in person. but jefferson thought this was too much like the king going to parliament. he was going to strip that away. you set precedent from doing things and from thomas jefferson on presidents did not go to congress to deliver their state of the union address. they sent it up for a clerk to read. they missed an opportunity to take some leadership over the legislative branch. it's not u

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jefferson fought with the early rose to spread democracy to more and more people to this day this issue of how much power voters should have compared to billionaires churches and corporations remains the fundamental point of cleavage between conservatives and liberals for the past thirty years the conservative worldview has prevailed in america since the reagan revolution it says we cannot trust the people to govern themselves and so we must trust the wealthy elite in the market to organize society and with the recent democracy suppressing efforts in virginia and pennsylvania conservatives use this worldview to rationalize their behavior but now with president obama saying we the people five times in a second inaugural it's clear he's trying to put hobbes in his conservative ideology back into the dustbin of history and it's time that we as a nation ask ourselves a fundamental question are we capable of governing ourselves as john locke and thomas jefferson believed or should we simply let the modern day kings the billionaires run things as the days conservatives believe. our founding f

jefferson fought with the early well it's to spread democracy to more and more people to this day this issue of how much power voters should have compared to billionaires churches and corporations remains the fundamental point of cleavage between conservatives and liberals for the past thirty years the conservative worldview has prevailed in america since the reagan revolution it says we cannot trust the people to govern themselves and so we must trust the wealthy elite in the market to organize society and with the recent democracy suppressing efforts in virginia and pennsylvania conservatives use this worldview to rationalize their behavior but now with president obama saying we the people five times in a second inaugural it's clear he's trying to put hobbes in his conservative ideology back into the dustbin of history and it's time that we as a nation ask ourselves a fundamental question are we capable of governing ourselves as john locke and thomas jefferson believed or should we simply let the modern day kings and billionaires run things as the days conservatives believe. our foun

from thomas jefferson which he talks about jesus christ. thus we see that this is true in what people say is a lie. and the founders wrote an enormous amount. george washington papers at the university of virginia are now in volume 67 of the projected 90 volumes and he wasn't even one of the writers. alexander hamels and m. james hamilton and thomas jefferson spent hours every day writing letters. so we have rooms full of writings from these people. if you just cherry-pick the citation here and there, you can prove that they were christians or deists are libertarians or baked potatoes. you can prove that they were just about anything, because they said so much. so a proof text citation is a quotation offered with a very little context and in biblical discussions proof texts are used to approve what god is thinking. in our discussions of the founders, once you collectivize the founders, once you create the founders and the high mind, then you can apply any sentence that any one of them ever spoke as if it were the opinion of the entire colle

alexander hamilton, james madison, thomas jefferson spent hours every day writing letters. so we have rooms full of writings from the people handy feature a pic of vacation here and there come you can prove they were christians were ds or unitarians are baked potatoes and you can prove, because they said so much. it proves vacation is a quotation offered very little contact. and biblical discussions, texts are prove what got us thinking. in our discussions of the founders, was to collect device, once you create a high mind, you can apply to any sentence that anyone of them never spoke as if it were the opinion of the entire collective and that's what's happening. that's what a lot of people today do and spend an enormous amount of money doing it. they take from a david burton's original intent is the one i focus on the most year. you've got thousands of quotations by hundreds of people listed as founding fathers, about half of the were not supporters of the comp to shame. samuel adam said john hancock and pesce kenrick, george mason, people who are anti-featherless leaders

from the notion that was that on which this country was founded when when thomas jefferson and his compatriots when he and and george mason and john adams the two of them along with ben franklin edited the declaration of independence and then we was forty three people signed it every one of them the moment that they signed it became traitors to great britain and were doing and the declaration was that they would be hung until dead every single one of them these men fought in a revolutionary war at least many of them fought revolutionary war about a third of them watched everything they had as a consequence of that revolution and they did it because they believed in a nation of by and for the people and an active government that could actually produce happiness the declaration of independence uses the word of happiness the first time in the history of civilization that that word had been used in a founding document. dolly madison ran into the burning white house are about to be actually was the day before it was burned in the war of eight hundred twelve is as big as the with the british and the

standing, looking, having a point of view of thomas jefferson. what did you feel? >> guest: welcome one of the things we want them looking directly at thomas jefferson. and if you'll notice, the memorial was built of his can of looking towards reagan airport. >> host: when you talk about the conversation would've had, what do you think dr. king would say to thomas jefferson if they had a conversation? >> guest: exactly what he did say. he wrote these wonderful words, let's live up to them. we need as a nation to live up -- we justified our independence on the basis of this declaration that says that all people are created equal, and they are endowed with rights. so now we have this obligation as a nation that we justified our independence on that we have to live up to its. >> host: his last book is entitled where to go from your book and your book "martin's dream" is a wonderful dream. i thank you for this book. if you look at it, i did something my teacher sovereign entity with the book because they are sacred. i dogeared some of the pages because i wanted to go b

from the notion that was that on which this country was founded when when thomas jefferson and his compatriots when he and and george mason and john adams the two of them along with ben franklin edited the declaration of independence and then i believe was forty three people signed it every one of them the moment that they signed it became traitors to great britain and were doing and the declaration was that they would be hung until dead every single one of them these men fought in a revolutionary war at least many of them fought revolutionary war about a third of them lost everything they had as a consequence of that revolution and they did it because they believed in a nation of by and for the people and an active government that could actually produce happiness the declaration of independence uses the word happiness the first time in the is story of civilization that that word had been used in a founding document. dolly madison ran into the burning white house or just about to the action as the day before it was burned in the war of eight hundred twelve is as big as the with the british and

thomas jefferson looks into the alamo county courthouse with the will, a letter that says i want this acted upon, you think the court is going to delay? only because jefferson did i say. he didn't want to press it. anything else? >> john barnes has emerged in philadelphia. income from investments were going into a john barnes account on which jefferson hosted a tory authority, power of attorney. $4000 of these went into that account and he said right of you use this money for the purposes and so he was using it like a good way of shorts money as collateral in this ingenious method of financial madness that makes today's financial managers the click takers. he was very skillful enough to have access to the money. there's a list of people. that's what he was able to live with the debt. >> did you see the letter written after jefferson started by randolph tried to revive the bill? he wrote to the lawyer in new york who is apparently controlling the funds and said, can we please revive this because i would like to get those funds and free some slaves. i don't know if you >> petite teen 16

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jefferson the art of power. >> the lesson for president obama from thomas jefferson is to use the dinner table. just bring people around. come to the president's house >> reporter: you mean literally have dinner >> yes literally reporter: like sit and chat that's what jefferson did. every night congress was in session. i wouldn't want to have dinner with members of congress every night but i didn't run for the job. he did. >> reporter: david gergen offers another suggestion about socializing for political gain >> and the first nearly four years of his presidency, barack obama played i think 104 rounds of golf. he played with one democrat the entire time. and with one republican john boehner. that was it. there were 102 opportunities to play with other members of congress, build up relationships. >> reporter: at the start of his first term, president obama invited historians including david mccullough to the white house. looking for guidance from past presidents. >> washington, adams lincoln reporter: but mr. obama may be surprised at one a digs to the list whom mccullough now considers o

jefferson, the art of power. >> the lesson for president obama from thomas jefferson is to use the dinner table. just bring people around. come to the president's house >> reporter: you mean literally have dinner >> yes, literally reporter: like sit and chat that's what jefferson did. every night congress was in session. i wouldn't want to have dinner with members of congress every night but i didn't run for the job. he did. >> reporter: david gergen offers another suggestion about socializing for political gain >> and the first nearly four years of his presidency, barack obama played i think 104 rounds of golf. he played with one democrat the entire time. and with one republican john boehner. that was it. there were 102 opportunities to play with other members of congress, build up relationships. >> reporter: at the start of his first term, president obama invited historians including david mccullough to the white house. looking for guidance from past presidents. >> washington, adams, lincoln reporter: but mr. obama may be surprised at one a digs to the list whom mccullough now considers

series. >> i remembered it once i read it. -- john adams and thomas jefferson died on the same day. destiny, loved the question. if you've got other questions you want answered about the president, about weather, about anything, we'll be glad to answer t thank you for sending in your questions. we get to as many as we can. we get so many gate ones. we'll do another one tomorrow. >> they can send video too. >> please, video submission. >> that is a good way to jump to the front of the line. >> that is a good point. >> someone else catching our attention, julie wright with the latest on our traffic. >> tucker is so funny, he make me laugh with these stories of the president. because i see you doing all work in the morning. >> that is why we call him the professor. >> got to get it right. >> i don't call him the professor. >> go to traffic, julie. >> i have another name. inner loop of the beltway as you guys travel inbound coming from oxon hill to alexandria. the crash occurred before 210. that is why this is complicated and that is why this is starting to slow inner loop of the beltwa

jefferson had been shot by their slaves. [ laughter ] because he's a reasonable man -- of course, not as reasonable as this debate's sanest voice the motor city madman, ted tugent! who, it turns out, is crazy for tolerance. telling worldnet daily, "there will come a time when the gun owners of america -- will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus. case closed. [cheers and applause] case closed. if rosa parks had had a gun, she wouldn't have been sitting in the back of that bus, she could have carjacked it. [ laughter ] of course, the nuge has long been an inspiration for the civil rights movement. in the words of the old negro spiritual, "free at last, free at last, wango tango! i'm free at last." we'll be right back. [cheers and applause][cheers an] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you for rejoining our broadcast already in progress. nation, longtime viewers know i love my sponsors like i love my children-- if my children gave me money. whraf laugh. [ laughter ] that's why i leap, like a mother tigress, to their defense if anyone attacks them.

and if thomas jefferson was reading locke, we start to see how these ideas were transatlantic, were moving all over the world well before we think of the global exchange that we have today. these other books show us how people were living, how they were interacting with each other. they also show us how we shaped our economy as we, again, struggle with how we redefine ourselves to new economies, to new political structures throughout the world. we can come to places like this, and we can understand how adjustments were made, how a community could redefine itself and take advantage of opportunities that might not have existed before. and what i love so much about libraries and about history and about research is five people can look at the same book and walk away with five completely different stories and interpretations. seeing what's important to them and making it into something that is relevant for an unimaginable number of commitments. so we -- communities. so we might say that history is a set of facts, but really history is an interpretation. and liar prayers are the -- libraries are

. >>> thomas jefferson once said that a room without books is a life without meaning. and we have looked at some great books and we have this fair this month that we want to encourage you and hopefully it will add some meaning to your life. tell us more about the antiquarian book fair. >> the book fair is hosted by the abaa, which is the antiquarian book sellers association of america. >> uh-huh. >> it's associated also with the ilab, which is the international league of antiquarian book sellers. so there will be international book sellers also attending and exhibiting. >> what about discovery day? >> there will be, on sunday between i believe 1:30 and 3:00, there will be discovery day at the fair, on which you can bring in books that you think might be of some value or you want to find out, you know, more about them. >> that's exciting. >> and there will be -- some of the members will be there to evaluate them and tell you about them. and i believe that will be free on that sunday. >> that's great. >> for the discovery day. i believe you still have to pay admission to

jefferson had been shot by their slaves. [ laughter ] because he's a reasonable man -- of course, not as reasonable as this debate's sanest voice the motor city madman, ted tugent! who, it turns out, is crazy for tolerance. telling worldnet daily, "there will come a time when the gun owners of america -- will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus. case closed. [cheers and applause] case closed. if rosa parks had had a gun, she wouldn't have been sitting in the back of that bus, she could have carjacked it. [ laughter ] of course, the nuge has long been an inspiration for the civil rights movement. in the words of the old negro spiritual, "free at last, free at last, wango tango! i'm free at last." we'll be right back. 2i-ppa @, @[cheers and ap] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you for rejoining our broadcast already in progress. nation, longtime viewers know i love my sponsors like i love my children-- if my children gave me money. whraf laugh. [ laughter ] that's why i leap, like a mother tigress, to their defense if anyone attacks them. i am e

jefferson had been shot by their slaves. [ laughter ] because he's a reasonable man -- of course, not as reasonable as this debate's sanest voice the motor city madman, ted tugent! who, it turns out, is crazy for tolerance. telling worldnet daily, "there will come a time when the gun owners of america -- will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus. case closed. [cheers and applause] case closed. if rosa parks had had a gun, she wouldn't have been sitting in the back of that bus, she could have carjacked it. [ laughter ] of course, the nuge has long been an inspiration for the civil rights movement. in the words of the old negro spiritual, "free at last, free at last, wango tango! i'm free at last." we'll be right back. uyr22.cc2![cheers a] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you for rejoining our broadcast already in progress. nation, longtime viewers know i love my sponsors like i love my children-- if my children gave me money. whraf laugh. [ laughter ] that's why i leap, like a mother tigress, to their defense if anyone attacks them. i am especia

alexander hamilton, james mat disson, thomas jefferson, spent hours every day writing letters. so we have rooms full of writings from these people, and if you just cherry picked a citation here and there, you can prove that they were christians or deists or unitarians or baked potatoes or just about anything. because they said so much. so proof tech citation is a quotation offered with very little cop text, and in bulb lick cal discussions they're used to prove what god is thinking in our discussions of the founders, once you collectivize the founders, opposite you create the founders, the hive mind, then you can apply any sentence that any one of them ever spoke as if it were the opinion of the entire collective, and that is what happened. that is what a lot of people today do, and they're making an enormous amount of money doing it. they take -- david barton, the original intend the one i focus on the most here, and in that book you have thousands of quotations by hundreds of people listed as founding fathers, about half of whom were not supporters of the constitution. samuel

king would say to thomas jefferson if the had a conversation? >> guest: exactly what he did say. he wrote wonderful words to be of let's live up to them. we need as a nation -- we justify our independence on the basis of this declaration that says our people are created equal and endowed with rates so now we have an obligation as a nation. if we justify our independence they have to live up to it. >> host: his last book was titled where do we go from here coming and your book, "martin's dream" is a wonderful dream. i thank you for this book. if you did something to be to look at it and i did something my teachers told me never to do. aandahl geared some of the pages because i wanted to go back and read. >> host: it is used as you can see. thank you so much for being on "after words." good luck with the book. >> guest: thank you. >> that was "after words," book tv's signature program a much authors of the latest nonfiction books are interviewed by journalists, public policy makers, legislators and others familiar with their material. "after words" airs every weekend on booktv at 1

jefferson had been shot by their slaves. [ laughter ] because he's a reasonable man -- of course, not as reasonable as this debate's sanest voice the motor city madman, ted tugent! who, it turns out, is crazy for tolerance. telling worldnet daily, "there will come a time when the gun owners of america -- will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus. case closed. [cheers and applause] case closed. if rosa parks had had a gun, she wouldn't have been sitting in the back of that bus, she could have carjacked it. [ laughter ] of course, the nuge has long been an inspiration for the civil rights movement. in the words of the old negro spiritual, "free at last, free at last, wango tango! i'm free at last." we'll be right back. Êejvzzé] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you for rejoining our broadcast already in progress. nation, longtime viewers know i love my sponsors like i love my children-- if my children gave me money. whraf laugh. [ laughter ] that's why i leap, like a mother tigress, to their defense if anyone attacks them. i am especially protec

ask thomas jefferson. look at our history. without a free press there's not a free america. without a free fox, there's not a free america. fair and balanced means something, especially in a media that's in the tank. >> john: somebody really wants uncle rupert to give him a contract. well, i gotta say, thank you peter johnson. not just for having a name that's doubly phallic but for reminding us that america is a freedom loving nation that never got any freedom until october 7 1996 when roger ailes liberty loving network put an end to 220 years of o'reilly free tyranny 1781, bring it up. general george washington defeats cornwallace. in about 215 years, as soon as media monday on laci peterson is get regulated. january, 1863, abraham lincoln signs the emancipation proclamation. telling america's slaves you are finally free. until 1996. 1920 american women win suffrage but continue suffering for another

john meacham's new biography of thomas jefferson. when you think there is not more to be said about thomas jefferson, one comes along, writes popular, readable, somewhat controversial book. so presidents have been in the news as well. >> host: it is hard to mention dead presidents and not talk about bill o'reilly and his two books, killing lincoln, killing kennedy. both best-sellers this past year. >> bill o'reilly and his writing partner, martin dugard, i actually interviewed bill o'reilly about his process. o'reilly says, his partner does the research. he does the writing. the idea is to write history like a thriller. not in an academic sense. there are very few footnotes there. you basically have to trust him where he got his information from. kind of like history as a page turner. he is promising to announce his next book, which in o'reilly fashion, he says is going to, you know, blow the walls down, be the biggest book in nonfiction history. we'll see about that. yes, his point, o'reilly's point is that history is often treated

jefferson emmen terry, police are describing the dog, similar to a pit bull. the victim, an adult may need rabies shots if they can't find the dog. >> a look at a man wanting for attacking a girl on the way to school in maryland. a 16-year-old girl fought him off in fort washington yesterday morning. she told news 4 last night she kicked him and he ran off. police say the man frequents the area around lourdes drive and fort washington road. >> in an exclusive interview, the victim of an attempted rape told news 4 the police changed her story and reported it as an armed robbery. according to human rights watch that is happening too often. this woman claims a man put a knife to her throat and forced her to an alley. she disarmed him, screamed rain, that forced the attacker to flee. >> i did not feel like a victim until i started dealing with the police. they actually changed my conversation with the assailant. he asked for my purse. i said no. because nauof that he took me i the alley. human rights watch will release a report accusing the d.c. police of failing

jefferson to abraham lincoln and provide ford the military recruitment of people of african-american descent, both of whom were slaves and who were not slaves. this also was a break because african-americans were not allowed to serve either in the united states army or the in the state militias because of the difference between military service and citizenship claims but the emancipation proclaimations did not cover all the slave states. left out areas under federal control. the tension between who is really going to complete the process. lincoln encouraged the bored states to do it themselves, even gradually, and he was going to offer federal assistance. what is more is that, as important as the emancipation proclaimation was, it was mar measure and that's gets to the issue of the 13th amendment. what was going to happen once the war inned was the emaps pacing proclaimation retain it legal authority, or would it effectively be overthrown by the courts? the press for the 13th 13th amendment came to secure emancipation. but we have to remember the emancipation proclaimation would only

jefferson. [laughter] you can tell, by the way, that i have a lot of fun doing this. the other challenge was just looking at how this progressed. you can look at different presidents and see who really was clever, who was just remarkably clever, who was really, you know, the smartest. i mean, along the way there was president johnson, the first president johnson is the first one to come up with the phrase and the concept of racial discrimination. it was the first time discrimination had ever been used in the distinction between race, religion, etc., discrimination in the fact as opposed to judging the size of eggs or something, being discriminate. and so by giving it a name, by giving it a fame it started -- a name it started to have it own life. the ability of a president to name something, i'm jumping ahead a little bit, but in 1934 franklin d. roosevelt was going to give his annual address to congress and was from day one in this country the president at the beginning of the year would give a

he ended up using a koran that was owned by thomas jefferson, which helped dampen some of that controversy. >> is this the most religiously diverse congress there's ever been? >> it is considered the most diverse congress ever. that sort of reflects the changes in american society. although congress hasn't kept up with all the changes exactly in american society. think about protestants. congress is still majority protestant, about 56%. >> but protestants went -- the number of protestants went down a little bit, the number of catholics went up. >> exactly, but for the first time ever protestants are less than half of the country, but they still make up most of congress. catholics went up this time around as well so they make up about 30% of congress. >> what about people who say they have no religion? >> they're the most unrepresented group right now in terms of religion in congress. about 20% of the country says they have no religious affiliation. we did have one atheist member of congress a few years ago. pete stark was the first person to say i'm an atheist. kyrsten sinema is the first

and thomas jefferson went to the inauguration. he was sworn in uzz by his cousin john marshall and he was sworn in with byrd, one of his political opponents. it must have been a tense inauguration. then he delivered his inaugural address in a voice that was so low that most people in the room, and the room was absolutely packed, most people couldn't hear what jefferson was saying. thomas jefferson as president for eight years delivered two public speeches in the entire eight years of his presidency. one was his first inaugural address, and the second was his second inaugural address. washington and adams went to give their state of the union addresses in person. but jefferson thought this was too much like the king going to parliament. he was going to strip that away. you set precedent from doing things and from thomas jefferson on presidents did not go to congress to deliver their state of the union address. they sent it up for a clerk to read. they missed an opportunity to take some leadership over the legislative branch. it's n

in march 4th when we inaugurated back then 1801, thomas jefferson gave a speech saying "we are all republicans, we are all federalists, we're all of one common principle." well, i don't expect to hear that from this president because he is combative, and he does feel the will of the world. the 1800 election may have been the most important election in world history because it was the first time power had been peacefully transferred after an election and this great healing moment. i think this president feels the way roosevelt did in '37. >> well, of course, nobody believes thomas jefferson and john adams snuck out of town ahead of time because he didn't want to be there to witness his defeater making that speech. so it wasn't exactly a healthy time but second terms have been rough. if i were obama, i wouldn't be paying attention to either of those speeching. i would be paying attention to the man on whose holiday this inauguration falls. >> martin luther king. >> martin luther king, because that is really what can make obama stand out. it was what made people excited about him in the first ina

i think this president feels the way roosevelt did in '37. >> of course, nobody believes thomas jefferson and john adams snuck out of town ahead of time because he didn't want to be there to witness his defeater making that speech. so it wasn't exactly a healthy time but second terms have been rough. if i were obama i wouldn't pay attention to either of those speeches. i would be paying attention to the man on whose holiday this inauguration falls. >> martin luther king. >> martin luther king. >> because that is really what can make obama stand out. it was what made people excited about him in the first inauguration was this moment in history. it's yet another moment in history and it comes on the 50th anniversary of the march on washington, the 150th anniversary of the emancipation proclamation. >> interesting he'll take the oath on lincoln's bible and martin luther king's bible. >> if i were him i would pay attention to one of the best inaugural speeches at the time which is i think not exactly the same but most similar was 1865. >> lincoln's second term. >> lincoln's speech used the wo

jefferson who himself was not too keen on the idea of heavy handed patents on ideas and intellectual property as he wrote nine hundred thirteen that ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe for the moral and mutual instruction of man and improvement of his condition seems to have been peculiar and benevolently designed by nature when she made them like fire expanse of all all over space without lessening their density in any point and like the air and which you breathe move and have our physical being incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation jefferson one concluded inventions then cannot in nature be a subject or property society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them as an infringement of men to pursue ideas which may produce utility but this may or may not be done according to the will and convenience of the society without claim or complaint from any one. given the activism we've seen on the internet over the last few years one could conclude that just as jefferson described patent and copyright laws should be changed according