of unions, particularly private sector unions, not public sector unions. >>eil: that's the point on the message, is why we have a stark correlation between non-- nonunion factory jobs growing, and union factory jobs. >> in a tough economy those jobs pay more than the $3 an hour you get when you're a nonunion worker and those jobs get cut first. >> neil: adam, what do you think of that. >> well, i don't think it's any shocker, first of all, that as we've already been saying that there's been a shift. this shift has been going on for a long time. and we could, at some point we'll stick a fork in the unions because clearly, they're dwindling. having said that, there's also no shock that these organizations are going to act in their self-interest. we could do whole shows on other sectors of the economy that do in their best interest, washington, wall street, i don't know, television broadcasters. we shouldn't expect anything, but the union to try to get the deal for their employees. >> neil: if they're not doing that, okay, and i don't know where you took that

and the european union. and i thought about a year ago in brussels i think this is a very interesting time for the british to call for a referendum even if it's going to be two thousand and seven in europe is still on the mend and if we can we look at the european union and we look at the eurozone this is something but this is very bad timing because they still need to mend the process and that means more europe and that's not everyone doesn't want that right now. exactly we need more europe right now and all the measures that have been taken to tackle the debt crisis in europe at the beginning didn't seem to be coordinated but at the moment we can see that they do have a have an impact on the economies and on the societies and short britain decide to run out they are out of the decision making process they are out of influencing this democratic process of influencing rules and we saw that give you an example in the emissions trading system that was very much influenced by the city of london because the city

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and the european union. and i think about a year ago in brussels i think it's a very interesting time for the british to call for a referendum even if it's going to be two thousand and seventy i mean europe is still on the mend and if we can we look at the european union and we look at the eurozone this is something but this is very bad timing because they still need to mend the process and that means more europe and that's not everyone doesn't want that right now. exactly we need more europe right now and all the measures that have been taken to tackle the debt crisis in europe at the beginning didn't seem to be coordinated but at the moment we can see that they do have a have an impact on the economies and on the societies and should britain decide to run out they are out of the decision making process they are out of influencing this democratic process of influencing rules and we saw that give you an example in the emissions trading system that was very much influenced by the city of london because the ci

and the european union. and i think about a year ago in brussels i think it's a very interesting time for the british to call for a referendum even if it's going to be two thousand and seventeen europe is still on the mend and if we can we look at the european union and we look at the eurozone this is something but this is very bad timing because they still need to mend the process and that means more europe and that's not everyone doesn't want that right now. exactly we need more europe right now and all the measures that have been taken to tackle the debt crisis in europe at the beginning didn't seem to be coordinated but at the moment we can see that they do have a have an impact on the economies and on the societies and should britain decide to run out they are out of the decision making process they are out of influencing this democratic process of influencing rules and we saw that give you an example in the emissions trading system that was very much influenced by the city of london because the city of

unions be blaming themselves? i am dave asbin. welcome to forbes on fox. steve, and elizabeth and rick and mike and bill. steve, who do unions have to blame for >> the public sector salaries are unaffordable . private sector, people are find figure you want real growth, you can't be strangle in the work rules. in chicago, unions made a few concessions because conventions are saying we'll not come and can't get anything done. >> there is a sense that the unions care more about the political power than jobs. look at what happened to boeing 747 and twinkies . american airlines. they went bankrupt. >> i will not deny that unions haven't played a roll in shooting themselves in the foot. they did to some deagree. you do find that 50 percent of it was due to anticollective bargaining agreements that we are seeing in the states . right to work legislation . these things are taking a toll. we are seeing the thing that is unions spent so many years fighting for is now codified as part of federal law. it is not over yet. cal

or union policy. the lack of support from supposedly prounion slave owners all the more worrisome in the light of the bad that was around that time coming from virginia battle fields. it was becoming painfully clear that the con fed armies con vetting -- purchases for them by slaves. building fortifications in places artillery. as you see here in the artist sketch carrying weapons and carrying for the sick and wounded cooking and cleaning and other tasks. raising the crops that fed the population. and fed the army. more and more republican leaders conclude they'd tempting fight the war without the enemy was impossible. concluded on the contrary that union armies must become more aggressed. must become more ruthless toward the confederate leadership and the supporters and in particular concluded that union armies must free slaves systemically and in large numbers. they must take slaves away from the confederacy and use them to strengthen the union war effort. slaves like these working on confederate fo

of unions, particularly private sector unions, not public sector unions. >> neil: that's the point on the message, is why we have a stark correlation between non-- nonunion factory jobs growing, and union factory jobs. >> in a tough economy those jobs pay more than the $3 an hour you get when you're a nonunion worker and those jobs get cut first. >> neil: adam, what do you think of that. >> well, i don't think it's any shocker, first of all, that as we've already been saying that there's been a shift. this shift has been going on for a long time. and we could, at some point we'll stick a fork in the unions because clearly, they're dwindling. having said that, there's also no shock that these organizations are going to act in their self-interest. we could do whole shows on other sectors of the economy that do in their best interest, washington, wall street, i don't know, television broadcasters. we shouldn't expect anything, but the union to try to get the deal for their employees. >> neil: if they're not doing that, okay, and i don't know where you took that conversation, but they're

>> unions are keeping scores. food worker's union that is trying to unionize walmart so corrupted andismanaged their symptom they needed workers to keep their own pensions afloat. their pension is in crisis . kick, y can shake your head. but your head as much as you want. the government's own filing show they are 40 or 50 percent underfunded and the union dues for corrupt gifts and political donations and lobbying and trips . the officers of the union. they have a 401 k and profit sharing plan. why don't the members have that? they don't. what is good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander, john tammy. >> if walmart were the explorer. why do people line up to get jobs? >> hold olet him finish and i will get back to you rick. >> would you rather an apple store or a blockbuster video? we know the answer. when walmart moves in a place, it attracts other places and walmart is a winner and symbol of success. if you keep them out other businesses will not go to newark to begin with. >> rick, walmart has sc

unions by definition are a monopoly. a monopoly is like a tax on businesses, if you want the economy to get even stronger, then get rid of all unions so the free market can operate and more people can become employed, not less. >> and we can pay them almost nothing. 'cause that's what happens without unions, we don't have living stages and reliance on government. >> and people get paid nothing without unions. what about the what, 83, 85% of people that are not in unions? they're getting paid something? >> they are paid 10 to 30% less and far less likely to have-- >> but they have jobs, caroline. look at the auto industry. >> but they're not living wages. >> until the industry went out of business. >> that was actually-- >> unsustainability. >> ten less airlines, 70,000 less jobs, but by god well paid. i was on a flight and i don't think anybody said they were overpaid. >> brenda: thanks, guys. get ready to get fee'd up again. and starting tomorrow, it could cost you. and cavuto at the bottom of the hour, but first, stimu

union membership in the u.s. is on the decline and that could spell trouble for the democratic party. michigan, the latest state to implement right to work laws, that make it more difficult to unionize lost 42,000 union members just last year. total union membership nationwide fell by 400,000 workers last year to 14.3 million, the lowest rate of union membership since the '30s. joining me is chief economist to the afl-cio. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> you're in "the new york times" article that discusses the workforce and unions and one of the individuals quoted, a professor at clark university and he says it's a time for unions to stop being clever about excuses for why membership is declining and it is time to figure out how to devise appeals to the workers out there. why do you believe these union numbers are dropping so significantly? >> well, remember, the key to being in the survey is to have a job. and we have a very weak labor market. the big part of that drop came in the publi

and the european union. let about a year ago in brussels i think this is a very interesting time for the british to call for a referendum even if it's going to be two thousand and seventeen europe is still on the mend and if we can do we look at the european union and we look at the eurozone this is something but this is very bad timing because they still need to mend the process and that means more europe and that's not everyone doesn't want that right now. exactly we need more europe right now and all the measures that have been taken to tackle the debt crisis in europe at the beginning didn't seem to be coordinated but at the moment we can see that they do have a have an impact on the economies and on the societies and short britain decide to run out they are out of the decision making process they are out of influencing this democratic process of influencing rules and we saw that give you an example in the emission trade system that was very much influenced by the city of london because the city of londo

and the european union. and i think about a year ago in brussels i think this is a very interesting time for the british to call for a referendum even if it's going to be two thousand and seven in europe is still on the mend and if we can we look at the european union and we look at the eurozone this is something but this is very bad timing because they still need to mend the process and that means more europe and that's not everyone doesn't want that right now. exactly we need more europe right now and all the measures that have been taken to tackle the debt crisis in europe at the beginning didn't seem to be coordinated but at the moment we can see that they do have a have an impact on the economies and on the societies and short britain decide to run out they are out of the decision making process they are out of influencing this democratic process of influencing rules and we saw that give you an example in the emissions trading system that was very much influenced by the city of london because the city o

>> unions are keeping scores. food worker's union that is trying to unionize walmart so corrupted and mismanaged their symptom they needed workers to keep their own pensions afloat. their pension is in crisis . kick, you can shake your head. but your head as much as you want. the government's own filing show they are 40 or 50 percent underfunded and the union dues for corrupt gifts and political donations and lobbying and trips . the officers of the union. they have a 401 k and profit sharing plan. why don't the members have that? they don't. what is good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander, john tammy. >> if walmart were the explorer. why do people line up to get jobs? >> hold olet him finish and i will get back to you rick. >> would you rather an apple store or a blockbuster video? we know the answer. when walmart moves in a place, it attracts other places and walmart is a winner and symbol of success. if you keep them out other businesses will not go to newark to begin with. >> rick, walmart ha

and everyone knows that q so and european union they go hand in hand i mean that's the whole idea of the strong bloc strong union from what it seems from the outside because of the sort of the economic crises there have been so many social problems that arose when example nationalisms on the rise in almost every single country of europe right now and then people say that with the hero. it has brought euro for europe farther apart northern part and southern part and you know it only made rich countries richer like germany and you know the countries that are on the periphery as they they made it made them even more incapable do you think taken into consideration everything we've said that you were a peon union has a future. oh i think it does because. i think first of all that the euro i agree with you the euro is a key part of the of the european union now and if the euro zone really broke up it would might be the end of that but i don't believe that's going to happen because they've got to move more rapidly and they've got to that's the best way to to do it to do rather than. me not

great i don't like unions i think unions very important i think that there is a collateral relationship between huge the middle class all i've ever said about unions is the government should be refereeing there should be no laws but even if they were in those unions that are there you have it both ways so you can't have it both ways because you know the collective bargaining of the unions the people these people need workers the larger the company that you're talking about with the one percent in the in the c.e.o. he needs workers and those workers have value and they can somewhat stopping a c.e.o. from just firing all the workers once they sign a union contract nothing. nothing at all but the when they just do that every time but they wouldn't do that every union could make the case absolutely yes the wardens are the owners saying listen we here value we can train our guys and we can take care of the health benefits there are things that the union can do to make this a better run physically in industries that you could just fire everybody because they're not skilled jobs in their lives

union members are the government unions to remain and volunteer to pay the union dues when the unions can't clickively bargain on their behalf. they are paying dues for nothing. having seen the success that scott walker has had balancing the budget to 250 many surplus, the other considers around the governor, democrats and republicans will look to follow that lead. the union strength and pow her diminish further. >> another blow for them. >> it. and in the private sebbor where the unions flourish in decade after the world ward had no competitors because the allies and enemies were in rubble. the unions enjoy their heyday. now with the international competition if you stay in business and the unions maintain the artificially high wages and tough work rules, in the auto industry, you go bust. that's why union are in decline in private sector. >> bret: next up, friday lightning round. ♪ so, i'm working on a cistern intake valve, and the guy hands me a locknut wrench. no way! i'm like, what is this, a drainpipe slipknot? wherever your business takes you, nobody keeps you on the rd like

union movement is getting those new workers, the people joining the labor force. and when you look at how unevenness of the recession has affected different states, you see that the union movement is very successful in states right to work states. union membership was up in texas and oklahoma and georgia and north carolina, tennessee. so, it's not -- these numbers are national and patterns of job growth and patterns of job construction taking place and peeling behind the numbers you see the success of the labor movement where people did not expect. >> it's an interesting article and will continue to follow the numbers and see what this means and impact of upcoming elections. thank you very much, bill. >> thank you for having me. >> absolutely. >>> coming up, gut check and joined by congressman tammy duckworth. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels l

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last month we had our quarterly meeting with the trade unions. so this represents now one full-year since we first approved the pla. and we had updates on upcoming trade packages to make sure that the unions are informed of work that is coming down the pipeline. sorry, wrong mic. as well as reports on the progress that webcor has made in working with the veterans organizations in the bay area and we'll have ted wang from webcor come up and speak to that in a few minutes. as well as the work as the unions have done with tech 21 and local schools. so there has been a lot of good progress made on that front and there continues to be no work shortage issues or other impediments to our project. and we had no reportable incidents in safety in the last month. in terms of trade packages as you know at the last board meeting or the october board meeting we awarded the substructure package. $120 million on that package and the slide says the bids are due january 10th. we do through the question from bidders process have requests to extend that bid date and

and the european union. and i think about a year ago in brussels i think this is a very interesting time for the british to call for a referendum even if it's going to be two thousand and seventeen europe is still on the mend and if we can we look at the european union and we look at the eurozone this is something but this is very bad timing because they still need to mend the process and that means more europe and that's not everyone doesn't want that right now. exactly we need more europe right now and all the measures that have been taken to tackle the debt crisis in europe at the beginning didn't seem to be coordinated but at the moment we can see that they do have a have an impact on the economies and on the societies and should britain decide to run out they are out of the decision making process they are out of influencing this democratic process of influencing rules and we saw that give you an example in the emissions trading system that was very much influenced by the city of london because the city

melissa: still, unions, i mean that's not a reason for dropping from the union. you like the idea they get me great benefits that looks good. i don't think a lot of people believe down the road the reality of it is they will not actually receive that money and those benefits because the tax base doesn't support it. do people realize that and realize unions are not working in their best interests in i don't think so. >> no, i think that's a god point, but what was really prior to that, there will be a change in state laws. there is a change. you see, in wisconsin where collective bargaining rights are now limited, and i think you'll have that throughout the country, and i think pople will support that because, again, there are wages and benefits and pensions that the state and local governments can't afford. the point is a good one, but that's the way i see that. melissa: you know, of course, more right to work states where if you were not compelled to join the union, a lot chose not to. could be because they thought it was not in their best benefit or couldn't af

bound to a federal union or european union or state of the united states of europe they can of course leave or negotiate the treaties so ok tony i mean i'm not saying the united states of europe is a bad idea but the people signed up for it. i think in ireland and they sleep many many people who are reluctant to both north and so i think this country when we join the european union but i think very very quickly people realize the economic benefits you know we've been safely got you know free trade across borders and i think one of the most important things is that when we're speaking about the various you know groups ethnic groups of people around europe i don't see that anyone has lost their ethnic identity their cultural identity and certainly if anything in ireland today the cultural identity of people the stronger since we joined the european union so i don't think people here are not a reluctant members i think they realize that in the global economy that we have today we have no choice but to work together in cooperation federalism even in ireland today we have still got our two

already enjoys special favors from the union how much further do you. i think the boundaries can really be pushed here while the way that the e.u. works is that powers are continually taken form democratically elected national institutions and powers a stain centered at the center of the e.u. around brussels where course the most of the decisions in the you are now made and that's away from the populace of the each nation and it's very undemocratic and powers can actually be returned to nation state so renegotiation the way that david cameron envisages it where he would hope to hijack a future discussion on a possible future treaty isn't actually going to deliver. deliver of a turn of powers so really the only way forward is for david cameron to say we must exit the european union and that's the only way forward that's the only way that britain can get back important control of very key policies and that's to exit the european union so that's what must be done that's really is the only workable turnitin the option is quite simply to either stay in the e

of unions, particularly private sector unions, not public sector unions. >> neil: that's the point on the message, is why we have a stark correlation between non-- nonunion factory jobs growing, and union factory jobs. >> in a tough economy those jobs pay more than the $3 an hour you get when you're a nonunion worker and those jobs get cut first. >> neil: adam, what do you think of that. >> well, i don't think it's any shocker, first of all, that as we've already been saying that there's been a shift. this shift has been going on for a long time. and we could, at some point we'lltick a fork in the unions because clearly, they're dwindling. having said that, there's also no shock that these organizations are going to act in their self-interest. we could do whole shows on other sectors of the economy that do in their best interest, washington, wall street, i don't know, television broadcasters. we shouldn't expect anything, but the union to try to get the deal for their employees. >> neil: if they're not doing that, okay, and i don't know where you took that conversation, but they're no

or union policies. and this lack of support from supposedly pro-union slave other thans was all the more worrisome in the light of the bad news that was around that time coming from virginia battlefields in the middle of 1862. , and meanwhile, it was becoming painfully clear that confederate armies were everywhere benefiting greatly from the forced labor performed for them by slaves; building fortifications, placing artillery as you see here in this artist's sketch, carrying weapons, caring for the sick and wounded, tending horses, driving wagons, cooking and cleaning and sundry other tasks, raising the crops that fed the populations and fed the army. more and more republican leaders now, therefore, concluded that attempting to fight the war without offending the enemy was impossible. concluded on the contrary that the union army must become more aggressive, must become more ruthless toward the confederate leadership and it supporters, b and in particular concluded that union armies must free slaves sys

melissa: still, unions, i mean that's not a reason for dropping from the union. you like the idea they get me great benefits that looks good. i don't think a lot of people believe down the road the reality of it is they will not actually receive that money and those benefits because the tax base doesn't support it. do people realize that and realize unions are not working in their best interests in i don't think so. >> no, i think that's a god point, but what was really prior to that, there will be a change in state laws. there is a change. you see, in wisconsin where collective bargaining rights are now limited, and i think you'll have that throughout the country, and i think people will support that because, again, there are wages and benefits and pensions that the state and local governments can't afford. the point is a good one, but that's the way i see that. melissa: you know, of course, more right to work states where if you were not compelled to join the union, a lot chose not to. could be because they thought it was not in their best benefit or couldn't a

>> i don't want britain to leave the european union. i want britain to reform the european union. we have set out the whole areas where we want to go speak members are shedding their heads off. they must desist. let's hear the answers. the prime minister spin we've been very clear about what we want to see changed. their whole series of areas social and legislation, employment legislation, environmental legislation we're europe has gone far too far. we need to properly safeguard the single market. we also want to make sure that ever close the union doesn't apply to the united kingdom. these are the things that we are fighting for. let me put it to him again. we want a renegotiation and then out referendum. what does he want? what doesn't he know? >> ed miliband. >> so, mr. speaker, four hours since the big speech, he can't answer the most basic question of all. whether he is for yes, whether he is for yes or whether he is for no. and why can he answer, mr. speaker? why can't he say unequivocally that he will vote yes in a referendum? because he is frightened because of the people

time to create a fiscal union. you need time to create a banking union. you need time to allow the european heads of state to get together and create a roadmap for what kind of regulatory and constitutional changes you will need to get to the point that you actually have greater integration of european economic governance. >> so the eurozone, the major issue at the moment is the so-called banking union and we've heard a lot on how they should be introduced, what are the key points that should be deciding and how it should progress. another major issue is the so-called eurobond, thereby european union countries would issue joint and several liability bonds. now that would require certainly a new institutional framework, which guarantees, for example, it would be now the germans would pay for italy's debt. >> at the end of the day, europe and the eurozone face an existential question: can we become the united states of europe? can we have the more powerful members, like germany or the netherlands, essentially foot th

he said that countries were becoming as weaker because of the current situation within the european union and the euro zone crisis and the fact that countries did not have great control over their own economic policies so he wasn't mincing his words today he also went on to say that the british public felt disillusioned with the european union and felt disappointed with the lack of apparently democracy and accountability from all the directives that get handed to other member states from brussels this is what david cameron had to say there is a gap between the e.u. and its citizens which has grown dramatically in recent years and which represents a lack of democratic accountability and consent that is yes felt particularly acutely here in britain what are you saying to a lot of people did saying quite confrontational but it was also trying to stress the fact that look please don't denounce britain for having nice new style of thinking should be encouraged and he believes that with this he might be able to make you with a better place. although david cameron failed to mention a specific da

the national union of teachers the biggest teachers' union in the u.k. has commissioned a survey which says that morale among teachers has dropped dramatically they talked about the highs and lows of life in the classroom incredibly low morale but also frustrated at continual criticism and interference from the government they said and the figures are quite staggering actually fifty five percent of teachers surveyed said that morale was either very low and that's up from forty two percent just eight months ago so it's really on a declining trend seventy seven percent said that they didn't feel that specific education policies of the government so specialist schools free schools were taking education in the right direction in this country and just five percent felt that this current coalition government impact on the education system was positive and had more specific about what the teachers don't like about the government's policies here. well there are specifics that they don't like they don't like this continuing interference they say that every new go

looking at unions in u.s. they have operated tough a history of intimidation tactics, union representatives come on fox news, the network is fair and balanced, they allow people to speak, they are falling back to the abyss of irrelevant from which they came, they say that unions built america, unions did not build america, americans build america. they would throw around accusations, i don't remember, the tea party, the lineup over there at msnbc, said that the tappertaries are speaking through -- tea partiers, speaking through valued racist. and meanwhile, the unions are saying off with the heads of a rich, it is dubbal standard? standard? yes. am i surprised, no. they risked this celebrity president into office, you talk about big oil and big pharma. if people look at top political donors, 15 of the top 20 are unions they give all their contribution to democratic candidates. neil: you are right about that. and all union money, better than 400 million to the campaign, by far the largest from a single industry

looking at unions in u.s. they have operated through a history of intimidation tactics, union representatives come on fox news, the network is fair and balanced, they allow people to speak, they are falling back to the abyss of irrelevant from which they came, they say that unions built america, unions did not build america, americans build america. they would throw around accusations, i don't remember, the tea party, the lineup over there at msnbc, said that the tappertaries are speaking through -- tea partiers, speaking through valued racist. and meanwhile, the unions are saying off with the heads of a rich, it is dubbal standard? standard? yes. am i surprised, no. they risked this celebrity president into office, you talk about big oil and big pharma. if people look at top political donors, 15 of the top 20 are unions they give all their contribution to democratic candidates. neil: you are right about that. and all union money, better than 400 million to the campaign, by far the largest from a single indust

i have to say that, i'm a union member and i love my unions, i think in general the days of the unions are over, this is the kind of last hurrah for unions to trying to use up a political power play. 50 years from now if there still is an america, i pray there is, unions will be looked upon as sort of quaint artifacts. >> neil: adam. >> when the states are right to work states, that won't be an option available to governors like happene in michigan. by the way, i don't like recall votes the same way i don't like ballot initiatives. i think the politicians shoul have the chance to serve out their term except in extraordinary circumstances and then vote them the hell out if you don't like them. >> neil: that's the most sensible thing you've ever said. (laughter) kidding. adam, i want to follow-up on one thing, a difference between what happened in wisconsin anand what's happening now in michigan. right to work the issue in michigan. it was really about collective bargaining in wisconsin. so, it would be tougher still to try to ease the governor out of office, right? >> i assume that's ri

and the european union. and i think about a year ago in brussels i think this is a very interesting time for the british to call for a referendum even if it's going to be two thousand and seventeen europe is still on the mend and if we can we look at the european union and we look at the eurozone this is something but this is very bad timing because they still need to mend the process and that means more europe and that's not everyone doesn't want that right now. exactly we need more europe right now and all the measures that have been taken to tackle the debt crisis in europe at the beginning didn't seem to be coordinated but at the moment we can see that they do have a have an impact on the economies and on the societies and short britain decide to run out they are out of the decision making process they are out of influencing this democratic process of influencing rules and we saw that give you an example in the emissions trading system that was very much influenced by the city of london because the city

said the european union should want us to say because the european union without pretense, without europe's strongest powers from a country in many ways invented the market, which plays by the rules come into force for liberal economic reform would be a very different kind of european union. it is hard to argue the e.u. would not be greatly diminished by britain's departure. let me finish today by saying this. i have no illusions about the scale of the task ahead. i know there will be those who say the vision i've outlined will be impossible to achieve, but there's no way our partners the british people have set themselves on a path that if we are comfortable being in the e.u. after 40 years, we never will be. i refuse to take such an attitude for britain or europe because the courage and conviction. i believe we can to vote for a more flexible, adaptable and open european union in which the interest of all its members can be met. with courage and conviction, i believe we can achieve a new settlement in which bert can be comfortable in all our countries can thrive. and when that referendum

union workers cost more. unionized factory work end earn $55 a week on average than nonunion counterparts and that doesn't include benefits. a brionna schaffer says that's why this is costing union jobs. when you see the numbers and you see states making gains, you step back and say, someone has to realize the math here. what do you read out of it? >> i think we associate manufacturing with unions. over the last number of years manufacturing has been moving away from hiring union workers and it's not a surprise why. the fact is they do negotiate higher time, their workers but that comes with a cost to the whole economy, making it less dynamic, less easy for businesses to hire more workers and at a time when we have 8% unemployment, that's not something that a lot of businesses can afford. >> now, a lot of those same union leaders say, you get what you pay for, and there are offering cut raitt salaries to workers who might appreciate the jobs, but in the end, aren't going to be very happy in those jobs. what d

stemming from conservatives busting up union since the time of reagan and when unions declined so too does the middle class a share of national income so isn't this the real reason why the little plus. is suffering dan you're going to say correlation is not causation this is the whole line of reasoning the middle class and lower income groups in the united states are suffering because of government tom you know one i dispute a lot of the income inequality statistics there is income inequality and obviously the level is always those that were the worst in the developed world when it well you know they asked in a developed world it would households which is whatever your household run for the hills splitting fifty thousand dollars amongst five people and amongst two people it's two completely different things secondly lower income folks tend to spend money on products where competition is really active you know in wal-mart the higher income folks don't they invest in services that are really locally geographically based they put their money in mitt romney swiss bank this is all done tom