fran, i want to start with you. you're going to get a chance to look at these photos now with us overnight. what do you see? >> you know, john, what you see is all the forensics, to me, that investigators will find there. so the twists in the metal all will tell them about the force of the blast. they'll be able to tell what kind of explosives, definitively, were used. were the bombs constructed in the same way. the circuit board. every one of these small component pieces, regardless of how small it is, every one of them has the ability, some ability, to be traced. and i think people find that surprising. whether it's a pressure cooker, or a manufacturer for a black nylon bag or a circuit board or wires or even a battery, all of that has potential for investigative leads that will allow the investigators to take that information, put it together with witness interviews, with photographs, with cell phone information, and try to stitch together the narrative and the chronology of what happened that morning. >> so, let

fran, be precise. obviously this is very sensitive information you're getting from a federal law enforcement source of yours. tell us precisely what you can. >> wolf, this federal law enforcement source tells me that there is an arrest that has been made in the boston bombing case. based on two independent videos showing the suspect at the bombing site, it was unclear to me it sounded as if one of them actually showed the placement. but i want to be clear, it's very chaotic. obviously this is moving very quickly, but what was perfectly clear to me was according to this official an arrest has been made and it is based not on one but two different video images of the suspect at the bombing site. >> do we know anything at all, fran, that you can report on this individual who has now apparently been arrested in connection with the bombings at the boston marathon? >> wolf, as i say, information is coming in, you know, minute by minute. but i think we need to be, as you know, careful, because initial informa

fran, this is what i want to do. the boston globe released some dramatic video of twin bombings near the finish line at the boston marathon. the video is disturbing. you'll hear the first explosion and a few seconds later you'll hear the second explosion. i'll play it and we'll assess what we just saw. watch this.

fran townsend, you worked with the justice department. you were a homeland security adviser to president bush. you have to be very sensitive what you say, so you don't undermine eventually some sort of prosecution. >> that's right. because oftentimes as you're gathering, for example they got great forensic evidence that they've been exploiting over the last 48 hours. you want to be able to keep that a secret so that when you're actually, if you get someone in custody and you interview them, you don't want to show your cards publicly. you don't want them to know what you have because you want to be able to test them in an interview and elicit as much detailed information as you possibly can. >> all right. i think some folks are beginning to walk through those doors. this is about to get started. let's see. they said originally it started around five minutes after, 11 minutes after the top of the hour. but let's see if they start coming in. maybe -- it's not unusual, fran, for there to be some last-minute issues they want to make sure they

the fbi to do immediately so as to stop somebody if they were trying to flee. >> hold on a minute, fran, i want to bring in tom fuentes, former assistant fbi director into the conversation.

fran townsend also with us. fran, from an investigative standpoint, who is in charge mere? >> the key is once the federal law enforcement officials acknowledged that they had deemed it a terrorism investigation, the feds then become the lead investigators. but let's be clear. the boston police have done a terrific job and they sit together with the fbi and the joint terrorism task force in boston, so they're working this as partners but the federal lead in this right now becomes the fbi. that allows them to access all the national security apparatus, including the cia and any intelligence they may be able to bring to bear. >> john king, just from the investigative standpoint, can you just kind of run through what we know because there were so many different reports today about a fire at jfk library, then authorities say it is related, now they say it doesn't seem to have been related to these attacks. in terms of there were two explosions we know about. how many devices do we know were found that did not go off? >> well, we're waiting for a definitive answer on that because

national contributor fran townsend, you're getting new information, fran, what are you picking up? >> reporter: a federal law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation said to me the fbi has indeed classified this as a terrorist attack, but they've made clear to me they do not know at this time whether those responsible for the attack were a foreign or domestic group. they do not know that answer yet, wolf, and that's their highest priority. there was no threat to the marathon in advance of the marathon today. they are going back now to see if there was something that was missed, either by federal or local officials. fbi confirmed there is no one in custody, and this law enforcement official also said to me that the two explosions that we've shown the tape of, wolf, along that end of the marathon route, it looks horrific, but i was told by the source that both packages that caused those explosions were small and that as of right now, initial tests, there does not appear to be used c-4 or other high-grade explosive material,

fran townsend also with us. fran, from an investigative standpoint, who is in charge mere? >> the key is once the federal law enforcement officials acknowledged that they had deemed it a terrorism investigation, the feds then become the lead investigators. but let's be clear. the boston police have done a terrific job and they sit together with the fbi and the joint terrorism task force in boston, so they're working this as partners but the federal lead in this right now becomes the fbi. that allows them to access all the national security apparatus, including the cia and any intelligence they may be able to bring to bear. >> john king, just from the investigative standpoint, can you just kind of run through what we know because there were so many different reports today about a fire at jfk library, then authorities say it is related, now they say it doesn't seem to have been reled to these attacks. in terms of there were two explosions we know about. how many devices do we know were found that did not go off? >> well, we're waiting for a definitive answer on that because w

fran townsend joining me now as well. fran served as homeland security on the bush administration and also juliette kayyem, department of homeland security. what jumped out at you today? >> well, in terms of what we saw, if you notice, it was only law enforcement now. it was the head of the fbi here and our u.s. attorneys, all of the politicians are gone. this is all about the investigation. for me and fran, people that know the fbi, this is an incredible change from the fbi accused around 9/11 of just close holding all of the information. this was a calculated risk on their part. we hope that they are looking at the right people. it's clear whatever else they had in the film discloses enough information for them to take this risk. they need to know more about these people. but they are being cautious as well. finally, this crowd you sourcing aspect of this that the fbi is doing, it's very equivalent to the july 7th attacks in london. this is what the british police did. this is -- has to do with how many pictures there a

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fran knows in the case as well. we have stopped many of the terrorist plots attempts through good intelligence. there wasn't a whole lot of chatter, we don't know if this is the lone wolf type plot or not. there wasn't a lot of advance notice. wasn't any and really not any chatter or intelligence to act upon. and that's usually our best effective tool to preventing these types of acts from taking place. very hard to secure an opening gathering, an open stadium, shopping mall, if you don't have good intelligence beforehand. so i think these teams on high states of alert right now and our european counterparts, a lot of discussion going on in the event this is a foreign terrorist plot to coordinate. if i could add one last thing. i talked to the white house yesterday. this is one of the moments that really transcends politics. i told them this is not a republican or democrat issue. we're all americans today standing against terrorism. >> you know what? we all thank you for that, chairman mike mccall, a republican, it

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fran, give us your thoughts on what we just heard from governor deval patrick? >> i think he's trying to assure the people it will come to a conclusion and people will be brought to justice. interesting he didn't acknowledge the special agent in charge in boston, acknowledged the recovery of the pressure cooker. we talked about that this morning. the lid, there are pictures now out with the forensics. we know law enforcement has gone through these videotapes and are focused on particular individuals. they've gotten a lot of investigative work done today. and they are much closer. it was interesting to me, wolf, he didn't really want to acknowledge the -- all of the investigative progress that's pn made, other than to say they's encouraged by it and it will take time. look, they want to build themselves space to complete this thing on their own time frame. i do think it's interesting that he doesn't think there's going to be a press conference today, as you reported, wolf. it's been pushed back, it's been delayed. we don't know if it's going to happen. you know,

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fran, what are you hearing from your sources? >> jake, as jane harman alluded to, we're now hearing from law enforcement source familiar with the investigation that this appears to be a well-planned and coordinated event. they're not using the word "attack" but this is the sort of language it looks very much like it's headed in that direction now. >> and we're told by federal law enforcement sources that authorities have found other devices in boston, not just one but other devices they're working to render safe. but the federal source says the bombs seemed small. >> the one source i spoke to, a federal source, said to me there was -- he acknowledged there was a third device. they weren't sure what they had. they were attempting to disarm it safely now. >> we're 0 going to go to chris cuomo, he's on his way to the scene in boston. what are you hearing, chris? >> hi, jake, how are you? can you hear me? >> yes. >> how are you? this is what we understand. we're trying to get on the plane up to boston. they just issued a ground stop

fran joins me, as well as tom. tom, in terms of what happens overnight, where the investigation is now, juliette earlier was saying critical right now that law enforcement just wants to make sure there are no other devices still out there. what are the other arms of this investigation? >> the forensic work will continue. it's going to be very difficult, i'm sure they brought lights out to help them do the crime scene. and actually both crime scenes where both bombs went off. as far as the rest of the work, there are a number of records that they're going to need to obtain, seasons that have to be written, prepared, types, ready to give to businesses for telephone records, internet records, the cell tower, how many phones were hitting off of the cell phone towers that were in close promiseproximity. so work will be going on around the clock. any identity of international perps of interest or others, that work would be daytime ov overseas, so that work will be continuing in other countries if there are leads that are

fran, let me bring you back in. assess what whdh is now showing is this. >> well, wolf, what will happen is, the fbi, in particular, and forensics lab at quantico will take these photographs, the fragments that have been sent to quantico, and this is the painstaking process. when the chief of police in boston says this will be methodical and they will be cautious, this is the sort of painstaking investigative steps, they'll try to measure up fragments, small fragments of what's left to what they see in these photographs, and try to see what they can learn in particular about the construction of these specific devices. they'll then try to see what they can learn about the device that's not pictured from the other bomb site in boston. they'll look for things like fingerprints, dna samples. you may find dna samples of victims, wolf, but you also may find dna samples of hair, and skin samples from the bomb maker himself. those are the sorts of details that they will begin to try and get from the crime scene, the forensi

we take a look at north korea's true capacity for destruction and talk with christiane amanpour and fran about best how to cool things down. first, the very latest from on the ground in seoul, south korea. the state department taking making it clear they want to shift the focus in this situation to diplomacy, to dial back the tough talk, the rhetoric. what are the south koreans saying? >> reporter: well, it's having two impacts. in the government, what we're seeing is a racheting up of tone to reassure the korean population, sort of trying to keep up with the u.s. show of force. the defense minister yesterday saying that if the country detects there's some sort of imminent nuclear threat, imminent nuclear attack from north korea, south korea will not rule out the possibility of a preemptive strike, so some strong words from the south korean government. but there's also this growing sense among the general population that the show of force from the united states may be part of the problem. one of the major newspapers here saying that it's having the effect of cornering a rat. that rat ref

fran, this is what i want to do. the boston globe released some dramatic video of twin bombings near the finish line at the boston marathon. the video is disturbing. you'll hear the first explosion and a few seconds later you'll hear the second explosion. i'll play it and we'll assess what we just saw. watch this. >> just had an attack. oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god. >> you can see the aftermath of these twin bombings near the finish line at the boston marathon. a horrific, horrific scene, something no one expected on the day where nearly 27,000 participants in the boston marathon, half of them or so had just crossed the finish line. the other half were still running, but, of course, they immediately shut down the boston marathon and took major, major action. one member of the house homeland security committee now telling us on capitol hill that they've been briefed by law enforcement sources who call this a sophisticated, coordinated, planned attack. let's talk about the video that we just saw, tom

tell me what we know, fran. do we know any hard evidence yet that could lead us to a potential suspect? >> well, there are clearly persons of interest. we know that there is one saudi national who was wounded in the leg who is being spoken to and investigative leads are being run. but we should be clear with our viewers, piers, the fact that someone's a person of interest, that can go either way. the leads will get run and the person will be cleared, or the person may be later, if they are confirmed made a suspect. but there will be many persons of interest and interviews done, surveillance camera video looked at. there will be forensics done and that's the break they're looking for. but i suspect there's an awful lot of evidence and i suspect you will see developments in the next 24 hours. >> from all that you've seen and heard so far, where is it leading your head as to potentially what is behind this? >> we just don't know who was responsible for this. we don't know if it was islamist terrorism, some form of

fran townsend you're our homeland security analyst. you worked as the homeland security adviser to president bush. this pressure cooker type of bomb, i've been told that they are fairly, pretty evident in afghanistan, pakistan, maybe in iraq and not all that complicated to develop and certainly as gloria said you can go on the internet and get the instructions how to build them. >> that's right, wolf. the component pieces are readily available. it's easy to buy a pressure cooker. the circuitry to put it up -- hook it up to the timing device is not very complicated. and so you're unlikely to get sort of the kind of intelligence and leads that they had hoped for from looking at the signature of the bomb. what we haven't talked about, wolf, the special agent in charge in boston did say the component pieces they collected have been sent to the bomb analysis center in quantico, virginia. they'll be looking for fingerprints, dna, the sorts of things while not a signature for a bomb will lead you -- may lead you to an individual. you know, we

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just described by fran. give us your perspective of what you saw, and obviously, your reporting on what you heard. >> yeah, certainly everything fran just said, you know, can be supplemented by the ear witnesses and eyewitnesses that we talked to about the running gun battle, intermittent with explosions that seemed to be thrown out of the car. we also know that as dawn broke this morning in watertown, and quite frankly, all along the route, from watertown back into cambridge, the police were searching for items. we really didn't know what they were. but then suddenly we came across a scene where a bomb squad was very, very interested in a tiny piece of dirt, it seemed to us. because we were so far away, in the median of one of these roads. the bomb squad came in, they did an air blast charge to see if it was -- you know, this is kind of what they do to make sure whatever it is is not a bomb. so they were very cautious about going back over. now, based on fran's information, the route of this chase, to make

coming from cnn's fran townsend. our security expert saying that a lid to a pressure cooker much like this one. a six-liter pressure cooker, believed to be what caused the blast. fashioned with ball bearings. the lid to a pressure cooker found across the street from the finish line of the bofrp marsto marathon. a lid to a pressure cooker, much like this one. found across the street from the finish line there at the boston marathon, and, again, that's what investigators will use to try and put together -- piece together exactly what happened. and in the wake of all of this, of this terror attack on monday in boston, you know, it has gotten people really envelopner around the country. people are tennesseei attending and that is car races. miguel marquez will join us to talk how they keep crowds safe at other events. >> reporter: it will be difficult, don. people around the world are watching boston, hoping learn lessons. when it comes to security at big events, despite the number of people attending, each prevents a di

you want to bring in fran. >> one more question. do you have a sense whether they are going to appeal again to the public for -- to try to help identify this person or is this something that at this point they don't feel that's necessary? do you know? >> i think that would be necessary. and i'm sure they'll continue to appeal it. and even if they had a suspect in custody, they would still be appealing to the public to get additional information to provide ample evidence or more evidence to support the prosecution down the line. so they would always be continuing to seek the public support all through this process of the investigation. there is going to be as much or more investigation that would need to be conducted after a person is in custody as much as getting them to the point of being in custody. >> right. >> all right, tom, let's consider another source. we have fran townsend with us now. what are you hearing? >> wolf, anderson, so, look, i've been on the phone, as has tom fuentes, as you just heard from him, i've spoken to tw

if it's foreign and these people are experienced, i'd say they're out of the country. >> fran townsend, are you hearing any intelligence about where people are beginning to think, in other words, does the fbi know a bit more and perhaps believe it may be home-grown for that reason, or are they thinking perhaps no, this is looking more and more like al qaeda? >> no, you know, piers, i think they've been very deliberate about leaving all those options open, right, because what's really important to them is to find the individuals and once you've got them, you'll know for certain what the motivation was. right now, the real -- first and foremost for public safety reasons, right, you've got two guys who successfully detonated these two bombs, killed three, injured more than 180, you want to get them off the street for public safety reasons, because we know for sure they know how to construct and detonate these things successfully. and of course, you want to do it because you want to bring them to justice. but i think it's a real indication they haven't decided what the motivation is. is it

fran, let's go through the pictures. we were talking about suspect number two, wearing the white cap. there are eight still photos, i want to put up on the screen, so viewers in the united states and around the world can get a better look at this individual. you see, fran, the baseball cap backwards on his head. you see his outfit there. he could pass for anyone almost, boston, a lot of college students, he's walking around at the end of the boston marathon, pretty casually. >> he is, wolf. you used a word earlier to describe him as cocky. and let's focus on that for a second. because i think you're absolutely right. you don't get cocky and confident with a bomb in your backpack unless you've thought about this, unless you've planned it. and the likelihood is, these guys did sort of what we call operational surveillance. they did dry runs before. so when the fbi special agent in charge says they're especially interested in those who were inside the restaurant, the forum restaurant, outside of which they put the one bomb

when you say federal law enforcement authorities, fran, have now formally designated this a terror attack, what goes into a definition like that? >> reporter: well, there's no question that it was a planned, coordinated attack intended to cause causalities. the point about this being small 5: packages, wolf, we're fortunate there would have more greater causalities if the packages themselves had been larger. while we know there are causalities and that's tragic, it's fortunate that this wasn't either a higher grade explosive or a larger device, which would have caused more causalities. >> let me bring tom fuentes into this discussion, former assistant fbi director, also a cnn contributor. the two explosive devices, tom, small packages, not to include a c-4 or other plastic explosives, what does that say to you? >> somebody amateurish put that together and probably wasn't a well trained terrorist who either would have had access to a more potent device that would have caused much more damage and bigger causalities, had it been. >> more sophisticated device would have been a more powerful e

. >> well, yes, but it's, you know, basically, as fran said, if you're already working, you stay at it. if everyone else be ready. but the fbi's always in that. that's how you live seven days a week the entire time you're in the bureau as an agent and as a senior analyst. so, in a way, you're always at a level-one alert. you're not off, you know, going home -- >> but you don't always check all outgoing flights leaving the states. >> they haven't done it yet. >> that's what they are planning, apparently, on doing. >> planning to do it should they be called to. >> what does that mean, every flight, you're flying united to london, to rome, every flight will now be checked before those planes take off? >> i'm not sure what degree of checking they want to do. the flight manifests are already checked. you have a great deal of intelligence work done on international flights coming or leaving the united states, so in terms of that, what we're talking about here would be a higher elevation of maybe hand searching every single person getting on a plane to a greater degree that's going on now. bu

fran townsend is with us, as well. let me bring her into this conversation. the public defender, he's a lawyer, he's a graduate of yale, yale law school. obviously, they brought in someone who's a highly qualified to represent this suspect, fran. >> absolutely, wolf. and what we're learning is he will lead a team of public defenders in representing the defendant here. you know, it's interesting, wolf, we really learned for the first time, we understood that the suspect had these injuries, dzhokhar has these injuries, but what we're learning now is he actually has the ability to speak. it may be limited, it may be to a single word, but that tells you something about when investigators during the public safety exception were questioning him. clearly, he nods most times in this transcript, but he does say the word "no," so we know he can speak. and at the end of the transcript, the judge makes the observation on the record that he is competent, he's lucid, and that he's alert. also very important in terms of understanding the defendant's condition. >> if i can j

"outfront" tonight, former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and fran townsend. what is the latest can you tell us from your reporting of what we know right now? there are so many question marks. >> and there remain a lot of questions, erin. we know that this was a well planned, coordinated attack that had the two bombs go off. we're told by law enforcement authorities that they were what they refer to as crude devices. that is it wasn't a high grade explosive. as bad as those explosions look, they could have been much worse if it was a high grade explosion. what they're looking for, we see many injuries from the flying glass. they'll look to see if there were other things put in the explosives packages to increase the likelihood of injury. >> often they do, right? they put all kinds of things whether it's ball bearings, nails -- >> exactly. that's right. so they're looking for that sort of thing. they made clear to me while they're calling -- the fbi has designated this a terrorism event, they don't know whether it was perpetrated by a domestic group or a foreig

tom, first to you and then fran, same question, what do you make of this? >> well, this is, you know, not uncommon. back in 2006, the canadians uncovered a plot later referred to as the toronto 18, and it was a collaborative investigation in canada between their intelligence service and the royal canadian mounted police and the fbi and at the time i was still running international operations at the fbi. we provided assistance to them, phone record checks and people traveling around, you know, with connections to the u.s., to make sure there was no related u.s. plot, which there was not. so this sounds very similar to that. at least with that regard. this is also that case was one i referred to where the individual who was the mastermind took one course in mechanical engineering and figured out on his own how to make a bomb, and, you know, and detonate it remotely by telephone. sodevices can be done, if a person has training, education, and aptitude to do it. >> again, let me etal size, underscore, bold, what we're watching for and waiting for, this has zero

also senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin, fran townsend, john king, juliet is here. also jeff beatty. fran townsend, from your perspective, what stands out, what questions do we need now answered in the coming days? >> reporter: well, it's motivation, and the president -- the president himself said that in the white house briefing room. we want to know in the coming days what motivated these two men who had spent most of their lives in the united states. we know some about the suspect. we know that they had some relationship, if you will, or belief in an extreme form of islam. and i think that's why you heard, anderson, the president say that we shouldn't sort of assume bad motives to an entire group. i know from talking to a number of sources across the federal government they're concerned about hate crimes. and they don't want to see that happen. so this is -- they're trying to keep the american public focused on the actions of these two people. one's dead, one's in custody. we will get to the bottom of what the motivation is. to stay focused on the fact that the a

i want to talk to fran townsend on the phone. she has been following leads all day. thanks for joining us. all the agencies involved in this investigation at the local level, federal level, how does that complicate an investigation or is there seamless cooperation? >> i can tell you in all the terrorism investigations i've worked what you hope for and work toward is seamless coordination and a single investigative plan and that never happens. different investigators following different leads give different weight and credibility to it and so they have to work through what are their highest priorities? how valuable is the information and what are the next steps? that they're working through that doesn't mean there is conflict. there is sort of a natural process by which they're kind of -- their elbows are up and they're working the details. these are smart people working way long hours and sometimes come at it from a different point of view particularly between the feds and the locals. >> fran, we know there is an individual spotted in surveillance video at lord & tay

fran townsend, thank you so much. thanks for being with us. stick around. a lot to talk about this morning. meantime, investigators say they are reviewing reports that tamerlan tsarnaev may have been involved in a gruesome triple homicide two years ago that remains unsolved today. that happened in waltham, massachusetts, nearby here. former acquaintances say one of tsarnaev's close friends 25-year-old brandon met was found murdered in a suburban boston apartment in 2011, along with two other men. they had all their throats slashed and their bodies were found covered in marijuana. and this just in to cnn, the gas station manager who helped the man carjacked by the tsarnaev brothers last thursday night, he is speaking to cnn. he called police after the victims entered his star, instead he was frightened. >> after maybe ten seconds i called the police. he came here, he was inside, and he closed the door, and i called the police. but i remember a gun, they want to shoot me. he was very, very -- he screaming, and he was nervous. so -- for me to tell you. >> we a

what's next, fran? >> reporter: oh, well, there's a whole bunch of things, don, that are going on behind the scene that the american public won't see, so you can be sure that they are going -- continuing to go through the photographs and video and be sure that there's more evidence against the suspect who is in the hospital than we've seen publicly. there's also telephone records, cell phone records and credit cards and bank records and travel records, all of that in an effort to try to paint a picture of what his contacts were and paint a moment-by-moment picture of what led up to the bombings at the finish of the boston marathon. in addition to that they are going to send leads around the world principally to dagestan and to russia, to try and understand that connection and the travel history there, but you can expect that there will be leads sent around the world, and all of that takes time. we know that they will try to question the suspect. it's not clear yet whether or not they are doing that and

john and drew, i appreciate the reporting, fran as well. at the risk of embarrassing my next guest, people did heroic things yesterday. boston medical center, dr. natalie stavish. she was certainly one of them. she was running her race with her dad near the finish line when the explosions hit. she swung into action helping to try to save lives. dr. stavish, thanks so much for being with us. >> thanks so much. >> we talked two hours ago, and i don't want to make you constantly relive this, but i do think it's sort of important to highlight what you and others did, which was running toward this blast to try to do what you could to help. you had finished this race or you were in the final stretch of the race, you were exhausted, you heard the blast and you knew you had to do something. >> i did. i did. i think a lot of us, especially a lot of us who go into the medical field have this instinct, right, this instinct that we need to be there, we can be there, and we can help. and that instinct kicks in and you can think of nothing else. you also

fran, nick, appreciate it. juliette's going to stick around because we want to talk about other potential influences on the suspects. and later tonight, i really hope you stick around for this. you're going to meet a first responder, a firefighter, a par mettic from the lynn fire department here in boston. received his medical training just in time on the day of the bombing to save a young girl's life. >> i don't know if it was just tunnel vision or fate or whatever it was, but i just looked and focused and i just saw this one child in the middle of the street just sitting there with this dazed, shocked look. >>> there's a lot of breaking news tonight, a lot of new information coming into us. the chairman of the house intelligence committee casting doubt on the notion that times square was the alleged marathon bombers' next target. he also suggested there are more persons of interest in the case. now, we don't have an answer to that, i just want to be clear on that. we do know that authorities arrested two peop

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