tonight a look at remember rich with philip mudd. >> the first al qaeda guys we had at ci detention centers were idealogues. they were very smart guys who had built up an understanding of what they wanted to do that was intellectual. and they were flavored with emotion. over the course of 12 years with homegrowns like these kids you have emotionally driven kids who have just a flavor of ideology. that really is a fundamental shift in the war on terror. >> rose: we conclude with a conversation with michael strahan, former nfl all-star for the new york giants, and now a television star on "live with kelly and michael" >> and i never assumed that i know everything. i never assume that i'm the be. and i always figud there is somebody i could learn from. and the same thing that drives me now is the same thing that drove me on the football field. it's not, you know, trying to reach and have success, it's more my fear of failure is really what pushes me. >> rose: philip mudd, michael strahan next. >> funding for charlie rose was provided by its following:. >> additional funding provided by these f

philip mudd in washington, i want to start with you and pick up what bret stevens was talking about. there seems to be a pattern here, which is if you look at the london bombings, they seem to resemble this one in this sense. second generation, first generation immigrant but clearly almost always muslim immigrants. something goes wrong in their assimilation and that is a trigger that puts them on the path to radicalization. when you were in the cia you must have been studying these london bombers, for example. do you think this is something to make 0 of that. >> a better example in terms of what we saw in london is minneapolis that was energized by what happened including american support for -- as a law enforcement and intelligence practitioner is inclusiveness in america. as a law enforcement tool, i worried all along when i was in the business that americans would start to say as a result of events like this that there are real americans and other americans. that kind of mentality if we ever get it will accelerate i think these cases of radicalization. kids like this when they tak

in washington philip mudd, stephen flynn, jessica stern served on the national security council staff. and brett stevens won a prize this week for his columns in "the wall street journal." thank you all. stephen, when you watched the response to what happened in boston, what were your thoughts in terms of our ability to handle these attacks? >> i thought it was impressive and drove home a core realism with terrorist attacks. it's our response because it's local. it's the bystanders, neighbors supported by the local fire department and police and emergency management folks. there's little question that americans took great solace in people's response. that's an important message that we can hand tl and we can bounce back quickly. i teach at northeastern university, a mile from when the attacks went off. what was extraordinary for me was that the city was back up on monday. the trains were moving. students were going to classes. i went to do some interviews and the taxi drop ped me off right n the corner. free coffee was given out by starbucks. even though there was uncertainty about wh

mudd. >> no doubt. >> let me ask you. given what we just heard from chris and the quality of some of the images that we've seen, how fast do you think this investigation will be able to proceed? >> at this point my guess shs and it's in contrast to what i might have said as recently as yesterday. my guess is relatively quickly. not because, for example, we'll be able to improve the video, but when you increase exponential lit number of eyes on this target, and by that the number of people in boston who are looking for these guys, if they haven't fled, they can't leave their apartment, and so i think just the prospect that somebody says you might get 1,000, 10,000 people calling but one of them got the right guy, my neighbor is this guy. they are going to go down. >> how can we be sure that these are the right guys? >> we can't. you know, this is not -- the arrest stage of a case is probably cause. we don't even know if we're there yet, but we're a long way from proving this case. >> we've got two kids, and they got backpa

we'll set down with philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey and terrorism expert philip mudd. plus the bombings raise new questions about the drive for immigration reform and gun control. we'll ask our sunday panel how the attack will influence those debates. and our power player of the week. the man who followed president bush every step of the way. all right now on "fox news sunday." >>> hello again from fox news in washington. at the end of the week that saw the first mass bombing in the u.s. since 9/11, we're going to focus today on one central question -- where do we stand now in the war on terror? first, let's get the latest on the investigation from boston police commissioner ed davis. as we welcome you, commissioner, i know i speak for people across the country when i say, congratulations, sir. job well done. >> good morning, chris. thank you very much. >> let's start with the suspect, dzhokhar sar nevatsarnaer. what's his condition? have police spoken to him yet? >> the questioning is going to be done by a special team brought in by the fbi. as far as i know, that has

tonight a look at remember rich with philip mudd. >> the first al qaeda guys we had at ci detention centers were idealogues. they were very smart guys who had built up an understanding of what they wanted to do that was intellectual. and they were flavored with emotion. over the course of 12 years with homegrowns like these kids you have emotionally driven kids who have just a flavor of ideology. that really is a fundamental shift in the war on terror. >> rose: we conclude with a conversation with michael strahan, former nfl all-star for the new york giants, and now a television star on "live with kelly and michael" >> and i never assumed that i know everything. i never assume that i'm the best. and i always figured there is somebody i could learn from. and the same thing that drives me now is the same thing that drove me on the football field. it's not, you know, trying to reach and have success, it's more my fear of failure is really what pushes me. >> rose: philip mudd, michael strahan next. >> funding for charlie rose was provided by its following:. >> additional funding provided by the

joining me now from washington philip mudd, former deputy director of the cia counterterrorist center, also a deputy director of the fbi national security branch. his new book is called takedown inside the hunt for al qaeda. i'm pleased, really pleased to have him here on this program. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: so tell me what your take is on this-- on them, the two brothers. on what they did, where they came from, whether there is some election with-- link with people in chechnya that might have had some influence on them. what is the mudd appraisal of this? >> my first a operational is these two kids, i take the younger kid's word not because of what he says but because i look at the characteristics of the event and say from start to finish, where you have a kid who didn't try to hide himself in front of surveillance cameras, pretty basic devices. they didn't seem to have and after-action plan. they picked about the softest target you could find in boston. i look at this and say if they had an operational linkage back home i can't figure out what kind of capabilities that kind