ricky campbell was a prisoner. very fascinating he had to say. he was in longer than i was. ricky addresses the club, sad thing. barbara walters did an interview about swimming pool. this was a minimum. it wasn't a camp. >> bars on -- >> correct. >> you have the door, no cells open cubicles or things like that. they even look you in at night. there's officers but you could get out to go to the restroom. there are no particular cells unless you get in trouble then you go into the s.h.u. the holding area. it's prison. it's punishment. you will do this at a certain time, you will do that at a certain time. you will follow the rules. you run out of minutes and you have emergency at home, too bad. if someone dies, you hear ney to the chapel. you go to the chapel. i know particular case from two friends. oh, your mother died and by the way you owe us $22 on the account. i know i did wrong and there were people in prison that did wrong, there's a certain human quality, if you want to psychologically rebuild someone who committed a crime, so prison is no joyride. i don't care if it'

ricky campbell was a prisoner. very fascinating he had to say. he was in longer than i was. ricky addresses the club, sad thing. barbara walters did an interview about swimming pool. this was a minimum. it wasn't a camp. >> bars on -- >> correct. >> you have the door, no cells open cubicles or things like that. they even look you in at night. even lock you in at night. there's officers but you could get out to go to the restroom. there are no particular cells unless you get in trouble then you go into the s.h.u. the holding area. it's prison. it's punishment. you will do this at a certain time, you will do that at a certain time. you will follow the rules. you run out of minutes and you have emergency at home, too bad. if someone dies, you hear ney to the chapel. you go to the chapel. i know particular case from two friends. oh, your mother died and by the way you owe us $22 on the account. i know i did wrong and there were people in prison that did wrong, there's a certain human quality, if you want to psychologically rebuild someone who committed a crime, so prison is no j