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>> yes, sir. >> and you're saying so did trayvon martin? trayvon martin referred to white people as crackers? correct? >> i don't recall, sir. >> mark, to you, what is the defense trying to do here and did they succeed? >> of course they succeeded. i really am at a loss as to how anybody is going to say this was a good day for the prosecution. understand what happens here. you've only got an audience, your audience is not the people watching tv, your audience is not us here on tv. it's the six people in that jury box. the six people in that jury box are not going to relate to this young lady. >> and i disagree with that, because i was in the courtroom. >> sunny, i'll just explain it to you. they are not going to relate to her. they're not going to relate to this woman saying that "cracker" is not derogatory. they're not going to relate to the mumbling, the stumbling and the other things that are culturally different. >> that's wrong. >> as i said yesterday, save the tape, sunny, because you're going to see when this verdict comes out that t
>> yes, sir. >> and you're saying so did trayvon martin? trayvon martin referred to white people as crackers? correct? >> i don't recall, sir. >> mark, to you, what is the defense trying to do here and did they succeed? >> of course they succeeded. i really am at a loss as to how anybody is going to say this was a good day for the prosecution. understand what happens here. you've only got an audience, your audience is not the people watching tv, your audience is...
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and that trayvon martin was reaching for the gun. that's the story they're going to have to stick to. that's the story that the defense is going to have to sell to this jury, and they want all of the forensics to be consistent with that. >> faith jenkins, lisa bloom and ken padowitz, we are certainly going to be sticking with this story. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, how each side today talked about the gun that was used to kill trayvon martin. very different arguments about why george zimmerman was armed. >>> plus, the day's other news, including a stunning claim from justice clarence thomas in a key ruling over affirmative action. stay with us. it's monday. a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable - secure - agile. and with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of th
and that trayvon martin was reaching for the gun. that's the story they're going to have to stick to. that's the story that the defense is going to have to sell to this jury, and they want all of the forensics to be consistent with that. >> faith jenkins, lisa bloom and ken padowitz, we are certainly going to be sticking with this story. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, how each side today talked about the gun that was used to kill trayvon...
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>> i did not. >> did you give him any commands, trayvon martin? >> yes, i did. >> what commands did you give him? >> i asked to see his hands. >> and where were his hands when you asked to see them? >> under his stomach. >> the final witness of the day was the physician's assistant lindsey fulgate who testified that zimmerman's nose appeared to be broken. she recommended he see an ear, nose and throat specialist for treatment and also noted the cuts to his head. >> approximately two centimeters and zero point 5, respectively. >> how small are they? >> two centimeters would probably be this big, and point 5 is much smaller. >> and based on your observations, in view of the lacerations, did you feel that anything additionally needed to be done regarding this? like any kind of stitches or anything like that? >> that determination is based on how well the skin edges, how well they're together, to begin with. and how deep is the laceration itself. based off the approximation, i did not feel that sutures were necessary. >> in cross examination, the defe
>> i did not. >> did you give him any commands, trayvon martin? >> yes, i did. >> what commands did you give him? >> i asked to see his hands. >> and where were his hands when you asked to see them? >> under his stomach. >> the final witness of the day was the physician's assistant lindsey fulgate who testified that zimmerman's nose appeared to be broken. she recommended he see an ear, nose and throat specialist for treatment and also noted the...
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only trayvon martin could have answered. was he going to start a fight? is this something that he would do? should there be more objections from the prosecution when those questions are being asked? >> probably, but this is cross examination and this is a murder trial. so he has broad leeway in asking his questions. that's why the judge is allowing that. you use the word badgering? badgering is the kind of thing we see on tv shows and movies a lot. basically cross examination is badgering a witness. that's what you do for the entirety of cross examination you try to make them look bad. you try to make them look like a liar. you bring up every embarrassing thing can you about that person. if people are watching this trial and they're not used to watching trials ander that squirming and are uncomfortable? well, this is what happens every day in murder trials across this country. >> we don't often see the jury system working in real time. again, it can be jarring. >> there is no textbook way to xros cross examine. he does not h
only trayvon martin could have answered. was he going to start a fight? is this something that he would do? should there be more objections from the prosecution when those questions are being asked? >> probably, but this is cross examination and this is a murder trial. so he has broad leeway in asking his questions. that's why the judge is allowing that. you use the word badgering? badgering is the kind of thing we see on tv shows and movies a lot. basically cross examination is badgering...
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trayvon martin's on top of him, reaching for the gun. and that he had to pull the gun first and shoot. this is a completely different story. and i would say if you believe any of these witnesses who contradict zimmerman's story, then his entirety of his story is in question. >> faith jenkins, lisa bloom, ken padowitz, stay with me. we have much more to talk about. coming up, testimony from the woman whose 911 call is at the heart of this trial. what did she say about the scream she heard? >>> plus, one of the only witnesses to that struggle speaks out. what did see that night? >>> and president obama's emotional visit to the door of no return, the place said to be the last stop for millions before they were shipped off into slavery. >> african-american, african-american president, to be able to visit this site i think gives me even greater motivation in terms of the defense of human rights around the world. >> the president in africa. i'll have more on that powerful moment. >>> and i love hearing from you. send me your e-mails at reply a
trayvon martin's on top of him, reaching for the gun. and that he had to pull the gun first and shoot. this is a completely different story. and i would say if you believe any of these witnesses who contradict zimmerman's story, then his entirety of his story is in question. >> faith jenkins, lisa bloom, ken padowitz, stay with me. we have much more to talk about. coming up, testimony from the woman whose 911 call is at the heart of this trial. what did she say about the scream she heard?...
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-- trayvon martin's mother and to parents, right? >> yes. >> okay. and -- did you end up lying about not going -- why you didn't go to the wake, the funeral? >> yes. >> and why did you lie about not going to the funeral or to the wake? >> i felt guilty. >> felt guilty about what? >> by them finding out i was the last person -- that i was the last person who talked to they son. >> you'll have to say it again. >> that i was the last person that talked to they son. and i didn't go to the wake -- >> you just saw right there quite a moment in the courtroom happening moments ago. the star witness for the prosecution describing her last moments speaking with trayvon martin and why she was not forthcoming about why she did not go to his funeral, claiming she was in the hospital when, in fact, she just didn't want to go. she claims it was too traumatic for her to see her friend in a coffin. we're joined now by msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom, who's been watching it trial all along for us. it seems, lisa, they're now going to go back into sessi
-- trayvon martin's mother and to parents, right? >> yes. >> okay. and -- did you end up lying about not going -- why you didn't go to the wake, the funeral? >> yes. >> and why did you lie about not going to the funeral or to the wake? >> i felt guilty. >> felt guilty about what? >> by them finding out i was the last person -- that i was the last person who talked to they son. >> you'll have to say it again. >> that i was the last person...
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trayvon martin. first, the latest on everything that happened today from martin savidge who joins us now. so, what new evidence do we hear today in the courtroom? >> reporter: it was photographs, anderson. i've seen all the photographs in this case, but i had not seen these before. these were photographs of the body of trayvon martin laying on the ground. i don't care who you are, they have a strong impact to see a young person you know lying lifeless on the ground. so clearly it would impact the jurors and it impacted everyone else in the courtroom. on top of that, we saw the gun that george zirm uszimmerman us, that's the cal tech 9. and then we saw the sweatshirt, very powerful. that's not a piece of evidence to the family, it's an icon. it represents the racial profiling they believe george zimmerman is guilty of. >> the sergeants gave very emotional testimony about finding trayvon martin on the scene. tell us about it. >> reporter: yeah, this was another one of those aspects that humanizes trayv
trayvon martin. first, the latest on everything that happened today from martin savidge who joins us now. so, what new evidence do we hear today in the courtroom? >> reporter: it was photographs, anderson. i've seen all the photographs in this case, but i had not seen these before. these were photographs of the body of trayvon martin laying on the ground. i don't care who you are, they have a strong impact to see a young person you know lying lifeless on the ground. so clearly it would...
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>> i watched them hook up the leads to the ekg machine to trayvon martin. >> was trayvon martin pronounced dead at the scene? >> yes, sir. >> what are they trying to do? >> it's a murder case. you have to prove that he died. it's as simple as that. every juror, as well as every spectator knew that he died of a gun shot wound. but it's so much more vivid and real when you hear that officer talk about seran wrap and vaseline. it lends an immediacy and frankly a tragedy. you think of this boy dying on the floor like that. you know, sure, it doesn't tell you anything about whether it was self-defense or whether it was murder, but it gives a vividness that the prosecution wants and the jury won't forget. >> mark, the defense really didn't have much to ask this police sergeant. what's the thinking when there's very little cross-examination? is it just that not a lot to dispute or just to get the person off the stand? >> jeff just said it. the prosecution wasn't proving anything. this was an emotional ploy to get in this -- to deal with stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the evidence. t
>> i watched them hook up the leads to the ekg machine to trayvon martin. >> was trayvon martin pronounced dead at the scene? >> yes, sir. >> what are they trying to do? >> it's a murder case. you have to prove that he died. it's as simple as that. every juror, as well as every spectator knew that he died of a gun shot wound. but it's so much more vivid and real when you hear that officer talk about seran wrap and vaseline. it lends an immediacy and frankly a...
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trayvon martin that day, on february 26th. would you agree that the phone records are the best records about that in terms of the length of the calls, whatever the times are? >> yes, sir. >> if i may have a moment, your honor. >> yes, you may. >>> lisa, we're now in the redirect here. they're taking a moment. let's focus in on the last 8:00 or so. what's the objective of the state? >> the defense made some in roads telling about how her interview changed with the interview, at her deposition and at the trial. what the prosecutors are doing saying she was asked different questions at different times by different individuals. >> thank you, lisa. >> what you're talking about, sir. >> that's what i'm asking you. are you saying that english is your third language? that you spoke creole and spanish first? >> i spoke three languages in my house. >> does your mother speak english? >> not that well, sir. >> does she speak english. >> not that well, sir. >> i understand she may have an accent or some limitations, but do you speak to her
trayvon martin that day, on february 26th. would you agree that the phone records are the best records about that in terms of the length of the calls, whatever the times are? >> yes, sir. >> if i may have a moment, your honor. >> yes, you may. >>> lisa, we're now in the redirect here. they're taking a moment. let's focus in on the last 8:00 or so. what's the objective of the state? >> the defense made some in roads telling about how her interview changed with...
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>> no. >> you ended up speaking to trayvon martin's -- trayvon martin's mother. and to the parents. right? >> yes. >> okay. and did you end up lying about not going -- why you didn't go to the wake, the funeral? >> yes. >> and why did you lie about not going to the funeral or to the wake? >> i felt guilty. >> you felt guilty about what? >> because i was the last person -- i was the last person who he talked to. that i was the last person to talk to their son. and i didn't go to the wake. no respect. >> ms. jeante lerks, since that time, have you heard the recording -- telephone recording where there's cries for help and then a shot? have you heard that on tv and stuff? >> yes. >> okay. the cries for help, are you able to say whose voice that is or voices that is? >> trayvon. sounded like trayvon. >> let me have a moment, your honor. i don't have any further questions. thank you. >> thank you. cross? >> would this be a good time for a short break for everyone? >> you okay if we take a short break? >> yeah. okay. ladies and gentlemen, we'll take a 15-minute recess. >> wow. well, that
>> no. >> you ended up speaking to trayvon martin's -- trayvon martin's mother. and to the parents. right? >> yes. >> okay. and did you end up lying about not going -- why you didn't go to the wake, the funeral? >> yes. >> and why did you lie about not going to the funeral or to the wake? >> i felt guilty. >> you felt guilty about what? >> because i was the last person -- i was the last person who he talked to. that i was the last person to...
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turning it into trayvon martin was profiled. we turn to the latest on that and the other key developments. this captivating testimony, what stood out to you? >> there were a number of thi s things. this is a young lady going up against don west. they were going toe-to-toe. west was able to question the credibility of some of the statements she made implying she said certain things in testimony. she was saying something different when she got on the witness stand. sometimes it was the words she attributed to george zimmerman. sometimes she left out the racial remarks. it went back and forth like that. other times, it was less about the testimony and more about a test of wills. take a listen. >> so the last thing you heard was some kind of noise like something hitting somebody? >> trayvon got hit -- >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. you don't know that trayvon didn't, at that moment, take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face, do you? >> no, sir. >> the no, sir could b
turning it into trayvon martin was profiled. we turn to the latest on that and the other key developments. this captivating testimony, what stood out to you? >> there were a number of thi s things. this is a young lady going up against don west. they were going toe-to-toe. west was able to question the credibility of some of the statements she made implying she said certain things in testimony. she was saying something different when she got on the witness stand. sometimes it was the...
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or did he attack trayvon martin with the intent to kill him? >> good morning, please be seated. >> reporter: in opening statements yesterday, the prosecution wasted no time trying to answer that question. >> good morning. >> they always get away. >> reporter: repeating e expletives that zimmerman used over and over again, when he called the dispatch line. the prosecution painted an aggressive picture of zimmerman who profiled a teen in his neighborhood. >> the truth about the murder of trayvon martin is going to come directly from his mouth. from those hate-filled words that he used to describe a perfect stranger. >> reporter: jurors and spectators riveted to the prosecution's depiction of what happened that night. >> you will know in your head, in your heart, in your stomach that george zimmerman did not shoot trayvon martin because he had to. he shot him for the worst of all reasons, because he wanted to. >> reporter: the defense opened with a bizarre attempt at humor. >> knock, knock, who is there? george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all
or did he attack trayvon martin with the intent to kill him? >> good morning, please be seated. >> reporter: in opening statements yesterday, the prosecution wasted no time trying to answer that question. >> good morning. >> they always get away. >> reporter: repeating e expletives that zimmerman used over and over again, when he called the dispatch line. the prosecution painted an aggressive picture of zimmerman who profiled a teen in his neighborhood. >>...
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they weren't saying it was trayvon martin. but again, the judge said their testimony would not be allowed. i spoke with one of the forensic audio experts, tom owen. you don't believe that's george zimmerman yelling for help. what makes you say that? >> that's correct. i conducted a study in 1985 and many since that time about people when they scream. about 40% of all 911 calls are screaming and distressed voices of one form or another. so i'm asked constantly to help untangle these sort of 911 calls, both acoustically and otherwise, so i developed a system of using pitch transposition to be able to compare regular voice against higher frequency voice or screaming voice. >> when somebody screams, it is a far different voice than they use when they're talking. >> that's correct. that's correct. but if you say the word help me, your articulation, whether screaming it or not, your articulation is very similar, the way you move your mouth and lips and tongue and so on. so as a result of that, that creates acoustical energy that can
they weren't saying it was trayvon martin. but again, the judge said their testimony would not be allowed. i spoke with one of the forensic audio experts, tom owen. you don't believe that's george zimmerman yelling for help. what makes you say that? >> that's correct. i conducted a study in 1985 and many since that time about people when they scream. about 40% of all 911 calls are screaming and distressed voices of one form or another. so i'm asked constantly to help untangle these sort...
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they weren't saying it was trayvon martin. but again, the judge said their testimony would not be allowed. i spoke with one of the forensic audio experts, tom owen. you don't believe that's george zimmerman yelling for help. what makes you say that. >> that's correct. i conducted a study in 1985 and many since that time about people when they scream. about 40% of all 911 calls are screaming and distressed voices of one form or another. so i'm asked constantly to help untangle these sort of 911 calls, both acoustically and otherwise, so i developed a system of using pitch transposition to be able to compare regular voice against higher frequency voice or screaming voice. >> when somebody screams, it is a far different voice than they use when they're talking. >> that's correct. that's correct. but if you say the word help me, your articulation, whether screaming it or not, your articulation is very similar, the way you move your mouth and lips and tongue and so on. so as a result of that, that creates acoustical energy that can
they weren't saying it was trayvon martin. but again, the judge said their testimony would not be allowed. i spoke with one of the forensic audio experts, tom owen. you don't believe that's george zimmerman yelling for help. what makes you say that. >> that's correct. i conducted a study in 1985 and many since that time about people when they scream. about 40% of all 911 calls are screaming and distressed voices of one form or another. so i'm asked constantly to help untangle these sort...
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we know she was on the phone with trayvon martin. she said the very last thing trayvon martin say was "get off get off" and then the phone went dead which implies zimmerman assaulted him. the problem she has is she told different stories prior to coming to trial and telling that story. she told benjamin crump the family attorney for the martin family she heard a bump and heard the phone cut off. she didn't say she heard the words "get off get off." she wrote a little to trayvon martin's mother "why are your following me" and then the phone cut off. >> we'll continue to follow this trial and have other news of the day. quick break and back with "jansing and company" after this. [ whispering ] shhh. it's only a dream. and we have home insurance. but if we made a claim, our rate would go up... [ whispering ] shhh. you did it right. you have allstate claim rate guard so your rates won't go up just because of a claim. [ whispering ] are we still in a dream? no, you're in an allstate commercial. so get allstate home insurance with claim ra
we know she was on the phone with trayvon martin. she said the very last thing trayvon martin say was "get off get off" and then the phone went dead which implies zimmerman assaulted him. the problem she has is she told different stories prior to coming to trial and telling that story. she told benjamin crump the family attorney for the martin family she heard a bump and heard the phone cut off. she didn't say she heard the words "get off get off." she wrote a little to...
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. >> did you hear any sounds from trayvon martin's body? >> i did not. >> did other sanford police department officers approach you and trayvon martin while you were giving him those commands or shortly thereafter? >> sergeant raimondo. >> and did either you or sergeant raimondo attempt to get a pulse from trayvon martin? >> sergeant raimondo did. >> was sergeant raimondo able to get a pulse? >> no, sir. >> did you and/or sergeant raimondo move trayvon martin's body after he failed to get a pulse? >> yes, i believe there was -- >> i'm sorry? >> i believe -- we moved him, yes. >> how did you move him? >> we turned him rightside up. >> you moved him from his stomach to his back? >> correct. >> to your knowledge, did you move or disturb any evidence that was around his body or on his body when you rolled him over? >> no, sir. >> did trayvon martin respond in any way to physically or verbally when you rolled his body over? >> no, sir. >> after rolling his body over, did you see anything that appeared to be a gunshot wound? >> after moving it? a
. >> did you hear any sounds from trayvon martin's body? >> i did not. >> did other sanford police department officers approach you and trayvon martin while you were giving him those commands or shortly thereafter? >> sergeant raimondo. >> and did either you or sergeant raimondo attempt to get a pulse from trayvon martin? >> sergeant raimondo did. >> was sergeant raimondo able to get a pulse? >> no, sir. >> did you and/or sergeant raimondo...
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. >> did you hear any sounds from trayvon martin's body? >> i did not. >> did other sanford police department officers approach you and trayvon martin while you were giving him those commands or shortly thereafter? >> sergeant romondo. >> did either of you attempt to get a pulse from trayvon martin? >> sergeant romondo did. >> was he able to get a pulse? >> no, sir. >> did you and/or the sergeant remove trayvon martin's body after he failed to get a pulse? >> yes, i believe it was a joint. >> i'm sorry. >> i believe we moved him, yes. >> okay. how did you lomove him? >> we turned him right side occuup. >> to your knowledge, did you move or disturb any evidence that was around his body or on his body when you rolled him over? >> no, sir. >> did trayvon martin respond any any way either physically or verbally when you rolled his body over? >> no, sir. >> after rolling his body over, did you see anything that appeared to be a gunshot wound? >> after moving it at a later -- yes. after he was moved around, yes. >> yes, sir. where was that? >> it
. >> did you hear any sounds from trayvon martin's body? >> i did not. >> did other sanford police department officers approach you and trayvon martin while you were giving him those commands or shortly thereafter? >> sergeant romondo. >> did either of you attempt to get a pulse from trayvon martin? >> sergeant romondo did. >> was he able to get a pulse? >> no, sir. >> did you and/or the sergeant remove trayvon martin's body after he failed...
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was zimmerman or martin the aggress aggressor. i'll speak with trayvon martin's stepmother. she says she lost a child she raised, the young man she calls not just a stepson but a son. >> i'm the one that took him to the football games. i'm the one that was there when he was sick. >> we'll hear more from her shortly. first, martin savidge. >> reporter: what jonathan good saw the night trayvon martin died goes to the heart of the zimmerman case. >> that night that you saw the person who you now know to be trayvon martin was on top, correct? >> correct. >> and he was the one who was raining blows down on the person on the bottom, george zimmerman, right? >> that's what it looked like. >> reporter: good lives in the subdivision where the shooting took place. he was watching from his patio about 15 to 20 feet away. zimmerman that night was wearing a red and blackjack et. market, a dark hooded sweatshirt. >> the color of clothing on top what did you see? >> it was dark. >> the color of clothing on the bottom? >> it was a light white or red color. >> reporter: he witnessed physical
was zimmerman or martin the aggress aggressor. i'll speak with trayvon martin's stepmother. she says she lost a child she raised, the young man she calls not just a stepson but a son. >> i'm the one that took him to the football games. i'm the one that was there when he was sick. >> we'll hear more from her shortly. first, martin savidge. >> reporter: what jonathan good saw the night trayvon martin died goes to the heart of the zimmerman case. >> that night that you saw...
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sometimes she said trayvon martin said get off, get off, sometimes she said that trayvon martin said what are you talking about? i mean there are differing accounts of what she overheard trayvon martin saying to george zimmerman? >> well, most certainly there appear to be inconsistencies and that's what a defense attorney's job is, to make sure that those inconsistencies are highlighted. and i think don west is doing that. but i will tell you, i don't understand the trial strategy of having a teenage witness who heard what she is saying was the last moments of trayvon martin's life on the witness stand for so long. this is reminiscent for me of his almost three-hour long opening statement in comparison to the 32-minute prosecutor opening statement. he doesn't seem to have a great courtroom sense into when it's too much. with this witness you get in, you get out. make the point, make the point she has been inconsistent and leave her alone. the longer she stays on the witness stand, i've got to tell you, carol, she does seem to me to be more and more sympathetic. she's very authentic.
sometimes she said trayvon martin said get off, get off, sometimes she said that trayvon martin said what are you talking about? i mean there are differing accounts of what she overheard trayvon martin saying to george zimmerman? >> well, most certainly there appear to be inconsistencies and that's what a defense attorney's job is, to make sure that those inconsistencies are highlighted. and i think don west is doing that. but i will tell you, i don't understand the trial strategy of...
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martin, the last person to talk to trayvon martin other than george zimmerman. >> ms. jeantel, i would like to direct your attention to page 209 of the deposition. i'm going to give it to you to read, and take as much time as you'd like. this is the question about what you told mr. crump at the telephone interview. where trayvon martin said why are you following me. are you oriented a bit? >> as you can see here. >> you need to read it to yourself and let us know when you're finished. >> you can start with line 14 or 15. that's when you tape itself was played. do you remember that? >> yes. >> remember in the deposition we asked about this. >> yes. >> we actually played a recording. >> yes. >> for you? >> yes. yes. >> take your time to read it. >>> we're continuing to watch the trial. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." a key witness action rachel jeantel, is reading testimony she provided earlier, going through it, according to the requirement from the zimmerman defense team, they're asking her to go back and read it. we'll have the day's other news, t
martin, the last person to talk to trayvon martin other than george zimmerman. >> ms. jeantel, i would like to direct your attention to page 209 of the deposition. i'm going to give it to you to read, and take as much time as you'd like. this is the question about what you told mr. crump at the telephone interview. where trayvon martin said why are you following me. are you oriented a bit? >> as you can see here. >> you need to read it to yourself and let us know when you're...
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so he had an attitude about trayvon martin, attributing the attitude about trayvon martin, these people who he didn't think belonged in his neighborhood. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, there is a new senator from the state of massachusetts, but i don't have to tell you who he is, i told you who would win the race months ago. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, the people who are trying to rewrite the law on treason. [ female announcer ] research suggests cell...
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>> when you told her what happened, did you use the words that trayvon martin spoke? >> being followed? >> no, about the -- >> no. >> you cleaned it up, in other words? >> yeah. he was just being followed. >> you just said a man was following him. >> yes. i didn't go -- she had asked -- i didn't tell any detail. i just told her that testifies being followed. >> uh-huh. and did you -- did you basically explain the short form. >> yeah. >> the short version that you had cleaned up the language and you had beak said he was being followed? >> that's it. >> and then did you -- >> that is it. he was just being followed. >> and did you tell her that you thought it was just a fight? >> yes. >> did you tell her that trayvon martin had said -- >> no, i didn't tell her that. >> but you told her that -- >> i told her on the on the text -- not on the text but on the letter. >> and the letter is something that you and your friend wrote down? >> yes. >> and that was a letter that you thought you might be able to give to. >> that was plan a to give it to her because i didn't plan to s
>> when you told her what happened, did you use the words that trayvon martin spoke? >> being followed? >> no, about the -- >> no. >> you cleaned it up, in other words? >> yeah. he was just being followed. >> you just said a man was following him. >> yes. i didn't go -- she had asked -- i didn't tell any detail. i just told her that testifies being followed. >> uh-huh. and did you -- did you basically explain the short form. >> yeah....
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she is the one on the phone with him, with trayvon martin. she says she was when -- and the phone records indicate she was. it was when this began when she is like somebody is following me. she is problematic. >> she problematic and there are inconsistencies, but one thing she is not inconsistent on is problematic for zimmerman which is, hey, i'm being followed. i'm being followed. what is going on here? and she hears that and express itself to the jury. they will try to diminish her saying you lied and didn't go to the wake and now the reason you say you didn't go is because you didn't want to see his body. so there are inconsistencies and there will be jury instruction that says if you disbelieve one part of someone's testimony you candice count the entire testimony. >> if you want to. >> it is the discretion of the jury. the key issue for her is what was trayvon doing immediately before he was shot? >> well let's let her describe that. this is what she said in court before megyn's coverage began. >> i asked him how the man look like and he
she is the one on the phone with him, with trayvon martin. she says she was when -- and the phone records indicate she was. it was when this began when she is like somebody is following me. she is problematic. >> she problematic and there are inconsistencies, but one thing she is not inconsistent on is problematic for zimmerman which is, hey, i'm being followed. i'm being followed. what is going on here? and she hears that and express itself to the jury. they will try to diminish her...
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. >> did you hear any sounds from trayvon martin's body? >> i did not. >> did other sanford police department officers approach you and trayvon martin while you were giving him those commands or shortly thereafter? >> sergeante ramondo. >> did you or sergeant raimondo attempt to get a pulse from trayvon martin? >> sergeant raimondo did. >> was sergeant raimondo able to get a pulse? >> no, sir. >> did you and/or sergeant raimondo move trayvon martin's body after he failed to get a pulse? >> yes, i believe it was a joint. >> i'm sorry? >> i believe we moved him, yes. >> okay. how did you move him? >> we turned him right-side up. >> so you moved him from his stomach to his back? >> correct. >> to your knowledge, did you move or disturb any evidence that was around his body or on his body when you rolled him over? >> no, sir. >> did trayvon martin respond in any way either physically orb verbally when you rolled his body over? >> no, sir. >> after rolling his body over, did you see anything that appeared to be a gunshot wound? >> after moving a
. >> did you hear any sounds from trayvon martin's body? >> i did not. >> did other sanford police department officers approach you and trayvon martin while you were giving him those commands or shortly thereafter? >> sergeante ramondo. >> did you or sergeant raimondo attempt to get a pulse from trayvon martin? >> sergeant raimondo did. >> was sergeant raimondo able to get a pulse? >> no, sir. >> did you and/or sergeant raimondo move trayvon...
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trayvon martin's clothing? >> yes, sir. >> what was that? >> i felt a cold can, sir. >> where did you feel the cold can? >> in his jersey pocket, sir. >> did the can feel empty or full? >> full, sir. >> when you say jersey pocket. describe that. >> like a sweatshirt where you would put your hands into a pocket in the front, sir. >> in center? >> yes, sir. >> do you know whether or not the can that you felt, do you know if it was in a bag? >> i do not. >> did you examine the can or remover it from his sweatshirt? >> no, sir. >> why not? >> wasn't on my list of priorities. >> did you find an exit wound when you sat himt up and zernled for one? >> no, sir. >> what did you do next? >> i laid him back down. >> did you continue cpr after you laid him down? >> we -- yes, sir, i did. >> was rescue called to that scene? >> yes, sir. >> did they respond? >> yes, sir. >> did rescue take over the cpr efforts after they arrived? >> yes, sir. >> what did you see the rescue personnel do to treat or assess trayvon martin? >> i
trayvon martin's clothing? >> yes, sir. >> what was that? >> i felt a cold can, sir. >> where did you feel the cold can? >> in his jersey pocket, sir. >> did the can feel empty or full? >> full, sir. >> when you say jersey pocket. describe that. >> like a sweatshirt where you would put your hands into a pocket in the front, sir. >> in center? >> yes, sir. >> do you know whether or not the can that you felt, do you know if...
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so he had an attitude about trayvon martin, attributing the attitude about trayvon martin, these people who he didn't think belonged in his neighborhood. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, there is a new senator from the state of massachusetts, but i don't have to tell you who he is, i told you who would win the race months ago. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, the people who are trying to rewrite the law on treason. "i'm part of an american success story," "that starts with one of the world's most advanced distribution systems," "and one of the most efficient trucking networks," "with safe, experienced drivers." "we work directly with manufacturers," "eliminating costly markups," "and buy directly from local farmers in every region of the country." "when you see our low prices, remember the wheels turning behind the scenes, delivering for millions of americans, everyday. "dedication: that's the real walmart" from capital one... boris earns unlimited rewards for his small business. can i get the smith contract, please? thank you. that's three new paper shredders. [ bori
so he had an attitude about trayvon martin, attributing the attitude about trayvon martin, these people who he didn't think belonged in his neighborhood. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, there is a new senator from the state of massachusetts, but i don't have to tell you who he is, i told you who would win the race months ago. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, the people who are trying to rewrite the law on treason. "i'm part of an american success...
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martin, trayvon martin complained? >> yeah. >> what was he complaining about? >> that a man just kept watching him. >> i object to the narrative form of the testimony as opposed to the questions of what was said and what the response was. >> okay. if your objection is narrative, it is overruled. you may ask your next question. >> after he said that, did you say anything back to him, or did he say anything back to you? >> yes, i asked him how the man looked like. he just told me the man -- the man looked creepy. >> he said the man looked creepy? >> creepy white, excuse my language, cracker. >> okay. they're having trouble hearing you. take your time. >> creepy ass cracker. >> okay. creepy ass cracker. >> just looking at him. i said, oh. >> okay. i know you grew up in a haitian family. make sure everybody can hear you. try to speak as clear -- >> can you repeat what your answer was, please? >> creepy ass -- what's the question? >> the question was they want you to repeat your answer. when you said what you asked him -- >> i asked him how the man looked like. he l
martin, trayvon martin complained? >> yeah. >> what was he complaining about? >> that a man just kept watching him. >> i object to the narrative form of the testimony as opposed to the questions of what was said and what the response was. >> okay. if your objection is narrative, it is overruled. you may ask your next question. >> after he said that, did you say anything back to him, or did he say anything back to you? >> yes, i asked him how the man...
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he said that after he shot trayvon martin, he got on top of trayvon martin, on his back, and he took his arms, and he spread them out. that didn't happen. you want to see the pictures of trayvon martin by a civilian who went out there that night before the police got there and snapped off a photo on his phone. trayvon martin's hands are underneath his chest. >> joining me now, zachary carter, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of new york and kendell coffey, former u.s. attorney, now an msnbc legal analyst. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thanks, reverend are. >> zachary, what do you think about the prosecution's strategy in targeting what they called george zimmerman's web of lies, and how the defense is responding? >> well, i think that the prosecution appears to -- they prepared very well a case in which they'll be able to juxtapose events that occurred on a very definite timeline that is tracked by cell phone conversation, by 911 calls, various 911 calls, all of which are going to be able to fix when certain events occurred in time. and if you think of that a
he said that after he shot trayvon martin, he got on top of trayvon martin, on his back, and he took his arms, and he spread them out. that didn't happen. you want to see the pictures of trayvon martin by a civilian who went out there that night before the police got there and snapped off a photo on his phone. trayvon martin's hands are underneath his chest. >> joining me now, zachary carter, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of new york and kendell coffey, former u.s....
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he was going after trayvon martin. less than four minutes after that defendant hung up, with sean, rachel, the girl in miami, heard trayvon martin say what are you following me for? and then trayvon martin's went dead. the first two officers to trayvon martin's body found it exactly like that defendant left. it face down, his hands clutching his chest. he was dressed in white tennis shoes and long khak i pants and a dark hooded gray sweatshirt and had a plastic dark gray watch on his left wrist, the little ear buds that he was talking to rachel on the phone were right next to his head and his phone was right next to his body. >> those are the highlights of prosecutor's opening statement to the jury. six women, four of them white and one of them hispanic and the defense co-counsel, taking a decidedly different approach less dramatic and subdued and using attempted humor trying to lighten the mood of the jury which is always risky. >> this is a sad case, of course. as one of you fellow jurorors commented in the selection
he was going after trayvon martin. less than four minutes after that defendant hung up, with sean, rachel, the girl in miami, heard trayvon martin say what are you following me for? and then trayvon martin's went dead. the first two officers to trayvon martin's body found it exactly like that defendant left. it face down, his hands clutching his chest. he was dressed in white tennis shoes and long khak i pants and a dark hooded gray sweatshirt and had a plastic dark gray watch on his left...
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trayvon martin's friend takes the stand for the second day. the teenage girl who has a unique way of making sir sound like an insult. >> he did not tell me that, sir, he just told me he trying to get home, sir, but the man was still following -- following him, sir. >> and the last moment of trayvon martin's life captured on a chilling 911 call. >> [ inaudible ] >> do you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there is gunshots. >>> we'll break down today's testimony and more on the woman
trayvon martin's friend takes the stand for the second day. the teenage girl who has a unique way of making sir sound like an insult. >> he did not tell me that, sir, he just told me he trying to get home, sir, but the man was still following -- following him, sir. >> and the last moment of trayvon martin's life captured on a chilling 911 call. >> [ inaudible ] >> do you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there is gunshots. >>> we'll break down...
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trayvon martin's friend takes the stand for the second day. the teenage girl who has a unique way of making sir sound like an insult. >> he did not tell me that, sir, he just told me he trying to get home, sir, but the man was still following -- following him, sir. >> and the last moment of trayvon martin's life captured on a chilling 911 call. >> do you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there is gunshots. >>> we'll break down today's testimony d
trayvon martin's friend takes the stand for the second day. the teenage girl who has a unique way of making sir sound like an insult. >> he did not tell me that, sir, he just told me he trying to get home, sir, but the man was still following -- following him, sir. >> and the last moment of trayvon martin's life captured on a chilling 911 call. >> do you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there is gunshots. >>> we'll break down today's testimony d
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you were in the bathroom and because of what trayvon martin was saying, you were paying more attention at this moment than you had been previously? >> yes, sir. >> and that you knew at this point that he had run and that he had lost the man, correct. >> yes, sir. yes, sir. >> and that his voice had changed. >> yes, sir. >> and you thought it was because he was tired from running? >> he sounded tired. >> you don't know how far he may have run. >> objection. >> overruled. it will not last time for that question. >> you don't know how far he had run. >> no, sir. >> and you have this conversation with him for a couple of minutes and then he says he sees the man again? >> yes, sir. >> and are you really paying attention now? >> i was really paying attention, sir. >> i am sorry? >> i had been paying attention, sir. been paying attention, sir. >> after you are talking to him on the phone, he seems out of breath for a couple of minutes. he says to you he sees the man again, and you pay particular attention now. >> i had been paying attention, sir, when i had called him back. >> so the answer i
you were in the bathroom and because of what trayvon martin was saying, you were paying more attention at this moment than you had been previously? >> yes, sir. >> and that you knew at this point that he had run and that he had lost the man, correct. >> yes, sir. yes, sir. >> and that his voice had changed. >> yes, sir. >> and you thought it was because he was tired from running? >> he sounded tired. >> you don't know how far he may have run....
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>> correct. >> very close by to where trayvon martin's body was. right? >> yes, sir. >> within feet? >> yes, sir. >> okay. and what was he doing? mr. zimmerman. >> standing on the walk. did he look towards you as you were coming towards him? >> yes. >> do you remember at that point whether or not there was anybody else present? >> there may have been but i'm not 100% sure. >> and flashlight on m-zimmerman at that point? >> yes, sir. >> and could you tell he was wearing the clothe wes talk about, the orange-red jacket? >> yes, sir. >> at that point could you see the injuries to his nose when you first put the flashlight on him? >> yes, sir. >> were they similar as to the picture we have seen a little while ago? >> yes, sir. >> even more, was it actual bleeding at that point? >> that's correct. >> and his eyes were watered in. >> yes, sir. >> both eyes. correct? >> yes, sir. >> and what did you first say to him. >> i asked him if he had seen what happened. >> his response? >> yes. >> did that seem like an appropriate response in anything wrong with the way
>> correct. >> very close by to where trayvon martin's body was. right? >> yes, sir. >> within feet? >> yes, sir. >> okay. and what was he doing? mr. zimmerman. >> standing on the walk. did he look towards you as you were coming towards him? >> yes. >> do you remember at that point whether or not there was anybody else present? >> there may have been but i'm not 100% sure. >> and flashlight on m-zimmerman at that point? >>...
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he's accused of killing trayvon martin. he has pled not guilty and claims he shot trayvon martin in self-defense. the hearing today focused on the 911 call made the night trayvon martin was killed. the judge heard arguments on whether the jury will hear this testimony from prosecution experts about who they believed was screaming on the 911 call that night. >> the screams don't match at all so that's -- that's what tells me that, okay, it's not george zimmerman. >> in a very high-pitched, very loud screams, that's how we describe screaming, the words that were at a scream level were almost entirely those of trayvon martin. >> the hearing on this issue will resume tomorrow morning. we also saw this dramatic moment in the hearing when the 911 call itself was played with mr. zimmerman sitting right there in the courtroom. >> does he look hurt to you? >> i can't see him. i don't want to go out there. >> they are sending him. >> does he keep yelling help? >> yes. >> silence in the courtroom for that 911 call with the screaming.
he's accused of killing trayvon martin. he has pled not guilty and claims he shot trayvon martin in self-defense. the hearing today focused on the 911 call made the night trayvon martin was killed. the judge heard arguments on whether the jury will hear this testimony from prosecution experts about who they believed was screaming on the 911 call that night. >> the screams don't match at all so that's -- that's what tells me that, okay, it's not george zimmerman. >> in a very...
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trayvon martin's friend takes the stand for the second day. the teenage girl who has a unique way of making sir sound like an insult. >> he did not tell me that, sir, he just told me he trying to get home, sir, but the man was still following -- following him, sir. >> and the last moment of trayvon martin's life captured on a chilling 911 call. >> [ inaudible ] >> do you think he's yelling
trayvon martin's friend takes the stand for the second day. the teenage girl who has a unique way of making sir sound like an insult. >> he did not tell me that, sir, he just told me he trying to get home, sir, but the man was still following -- following him, sir. >> and the last moment of trayvon martin's life captured on a chilling 911 call. >> [ inaudible ] >> do you think he's yelling
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they don't know who george zimmerman is and who trayvon martin was. but tonight i spoke with a woman named alicia stanley, trayvon martin's stepmother who knew him from early on in his life, since he was 3 years old, raised him as her own. trayvon lived most of his childhood and teen years with her and his father, tracy, until they split up shortly before the shooting next year. i don't think a lot of people know your story and your relationship with trayvon. you were his stepmother for a long, long time. >> yes, for 14 years. you could say 14 1/2 years. >> how much role did you have in raising him? >> hands on. i mean, i've been with his father for 14 years. trayvon was about 3 when i met his father. and ever since then, i mean, trayvon has been in my life. i've been nothing more than a mother to him, you know, he was raised with my girls. i have two daughters. >> so he lived in your house? >> yes, he lived in my house with me and his father and my girls. and trayvon wanted to live with us. and trayvon was to our house in my home 85% to 90% of the ti
they don't know who george zimmerman is and who trayvon martin was. but tonight i spoke with a woman named alicia stanley, trayvon martin's stepmother who knew him from early on in his life, since he was 3 years old, raised him as her own. trayvon lived most of his childhood and teen years with her and his father, tracy, until they split up shortly before the shooting next year. i don't think a lot of people know your story and your relationship with trayvon. you were his stepmother for a long,...
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here he testified he sees trayvon martin on top or basically, a person dressed the same way trayvon martin was and testifies to the mma. he testifies that he saw ground and pound. he testifies that he saw the injuries, that he heard essentially the cries for help. no one came, and that there did not seem to be any will -- ill will or spite evidenced by george zimmerman, which is really important that the prosecution has to prove that to prove the killing was done with the depraved mind to have second degree murder e. overall, no, he's not 100% a good witness for the defense, but he comes very close. >> jane, i mean, we get down to injuries, some of the medical experts that gave evidence today didn't think they were too severe. he never actually had an x-ray to prove he had a broken nose, the assumption is he may have done but the picture certainly looks rough there but the medical experts played that down a bit, which i thought was quite significant because the defense was trying to say look, he was clearly pounded into the concrete. they said well, he may have been, but they have seen a l
here he testified he sees trayvon martin on top or basically, a person dressed the same way trayvon martin was and testifies to the mma. he testifies that he saw ground and pound. he testifies that he saw the injuries, that he heard essentially the cries for help. no one came, and that there did not seem to be any will -- ill will or spite evidenced by george zimmerman, which is really important that the prosecution has to prove that to prove the killing was done with the depraved mind to have...
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trayvon martin. if you say who's trayvon martin, then of course you get on the jury. he said that joke. it fell flat. i think he apologized for it later saying that the problem was with the delivery. clearly he stumbled getting started today. but ultimately i think he laid out a very expanse i have been opening statement that will reflect their case as they go forward. >> suarez: n.p.r.'s greg allen, thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure, ray. brown: finally tonight a good >> brown: finally tonight, a "good news" revolution of sorts in cities across the country, as local officials search for new ways to innovate and make urban centers more livable. judy woodruff has our book conversation. >> woodruff: cities are increasingly the places people want to live. two-thirds of americans today reside in metropolitan areas which in turn account for three-fourths of the nation's economy. but government has traditionally operated with the model of washington, the federal government on top. the states next and cities having whatever is left over at the bottom. now, however, as ur
trayvon martin. if you say who's trayvon martin, then of course you get on the jury. he said that joke. it fell flat. i think he apologized for it later saying that the problem was with the delivery. clearly he stumbled getting started today. but ultimately i think he laid out a very expanse i have been opening statement that will reflect their case as they go forward. >> suarez: n.p.r.'s greg allen, thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure, ray. brown: finally tonight a good >>...
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whether or not trayvon martin was followed versus whether or not perhaps trayvon martin confronted george zimmerman is what he was trying to get out, correct? >> what don west is trying to do is get his defense in. he basically laid it out and said, he could have been hiding and approached him and attacked him. she said, i'm not saying that, not in those exact words. but this is the defense trying to get george zimmerman's story in front of the jury through this witness which is kind of bizarre, but i don't think they want george zimmerman to testify. but the bottom line is is that this should have been a quick and easy cross-examination because, yes, the wording she's used in her statements has varied. >> it has varied. >> yes. >> want to get a quick break in, but we have to talk about those three little words she used. the crazy cracker. we're going to go there. do not miss this. i want your opinion. >> you want my opinion, but i'm not saying the words. >> i'm not saying the words, either. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why
whether or not trayvon martin was followed versus whether or not perhaps trayvon martin confronted george zimmerman is what he was trying to get out, correct? >> what don west is trying to do is get his defense in. he basically laid it out and said, he could have been hiding and approached him and attacked him. she said, i'm not saying that, not in those exact words. but this is the defense trying to get george zimmerman's story in front of the jury through this witness which is kind of...
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trayvon martin used some inappropriate language. we had a star witness who is barely understandable. look, it's not a sympathy game. sure, she's young, and i understand, and i think mark would agree. those witnesses appear every day in criminal court. they're not uncommon at all. people who especially want to mix it up with the cross examining attorney. if that's your most credible witness, what do we know? but we know somebody screamed, somebody may have been on top of someone else. the prosecution has a long way to -- >> not somebody. they're saying differently. it's not fair. >> the witnesses are saying differently. you just proved my point. the witnesses are saying differently. you just proved my point. they don't know -- >> they're saying they thought george zimmerman was on top. they're saying they thought trayvon martin was yelling. they're not just saying they don't know. >> and then they say yeah, i could have been mistaken. that's beyond a reasonable doubt? >> jeff, to danny's point, do you feel like at this point -- you'r
trayvon martin used some inappropriate language. we had a star witness who is barely understandable. look, it's not a sympathy game. sure, she's young, and i understand, and i think mark would agree. those witnesses appear every day in criminal court. they're not uncommon at all. people who especially want to mix it up with the cross examining attorney. if that's your most credible witness, what do we know? but we know somebody screamed, somebody may have been on top of someone else. the...
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why race matters in the trayvon martin tragedy. but now a year plus later, the defense, i mean, the prosecution is telling us well, basically this is not a racial thing and we don't want to inject race into this. i say isn't that a little late. >> let's be very clear, laura. mother of trayvon martin has said very loud and very clear this is not a black or white thing. it's a right or wrong thing. certainly this issue of travon martin's death has brought up issues of race. what happens in the courtroom no one, no one from the family, no one from the prosecutor, the prosecutor has ever said that george zimmerman killed trayvon martin because he was black. nobody said that. >> don't have to say that by the way i should clarify it wasn't the prosecution that said that it was trayvon martin's family attorney that had made that point. but, you know, you don't have to say that it was done because of race, jasmine to have this be racially continuinged. and i think from the beginning, when you had cable hosts running down there and declarin
why race matters in the trayvon martin tragedy. but now a year plus later, the defense, i mean, the prosecution is telling us well, basically this is not a racial thing and we don't want to inject race into this. i say isn't that a little late. >> let's be very clear, laura. mother of trayvon martin has said very loud and very clear this is not a black or white thing. it's a right or wrong thing. certainly this issue of travon martin's death has brought up issues of race. what happens in...
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there was no way he could have been revived, but for the parents of trayvon martin, tracy martin actually got up and left when he saw that imagery. sabrina fulton, his mother stat there and listened to the last moments of her son's life. >> so far, martin, we know apparently there is no trayvon martin dna on the gun and no evidence of bruising on his fists. so if you're looking at this in totality, quite hard to see how this z has been the bruising brawl the zimmerman camp would like us to believe unless he simply, as they tried to make us infer, banged zimmerman's head on the concrete. >> the prosecution is maintaining they look at the hands and they say -- of trayvon martin and there is no clear indication he was delivering some beating, however, then today they actually showed the photographs that were taken by the police and it was defense that said well, you can see the bumps there on george zimmerman's head. it's not a medical measure of the severity. that will come later. so really, what we have heard. this is the thing with this case. we all heard the evidence. it's whether or not
there was no way he could have been revived, but for the parents of trayvon martin, tracy martin actually got up and left when he saw that imagery. sabrina fulton, his mother stat there and listened to the last moments of her son's life. >> so far, martin, we know apparently there is no trayvon martin dna on the gun and no evidence of bruising on his fists. so if you're looking at this in totality, quite hard to see how this z has been the bruising brawl the zimmerman camp would like us...
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>> no. >> you have to understand she talked to trayvon martin. but outside of what is consist 10 with zimmerman and martin, everything else seems to be up for grabs as she sees it when she want to change it. >> i disatbreer just a little bit. jurors know she is unpressure. she is a young person trying to react to a hard situation here. i don't think that hold that against her. bill: she is 19. we'll take our viewers back inside. she is 19. she was 18 on the night of february 26, 2012 when trayvon martin was fatally shot. >> do you remember the date that this took place? >> no, sir. >> a couple weeks ago you went to fdle in miami and they gave you a chance to review the statement? >> yes. >> and did you? >> yes. >> did you review any other statement at that time? >> i watched the interview that i had. >> that would be a videotaped deposition? >> yes, sir. >> did you review any other material in anticipation of coming to court? >> no, sir. >> did you review the transcript or listen to the recordings? >> no, sir. >> let's talk about the interview ap
>> no. >> you have to understand she talked to trayvon martin. but outside of what is consist 10 with zimmerman and martin, everything else seems to be up for grabs as she sees it when she want to change it. >> i disatbreer just a little bit. jurors know she is unpressure. she is a young person trying to react to a hard situation here. i don't think that hold that against her. bill: she is 19. we'll take our viewers back inside. she is 19. she was 18 on the night of february...
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did you tell miss fulton what the man said when trayvon martin said why you following me? did you say to miss fulton what the man said in response? >> yes. >> and what did you tell her? >> what you doing around here? >> i'm sorry? >> what are you doing around here? >> so that's what you told miss fulton? >> yes, in the car, yes. >> and you're sure you're actually had a conversation with miss fulton -- >> not for that -- not for that long. >> agreed. i'm not challenging that. but you're saying that you had a conversation about the facts of the case, if you will -- >> yes. >> correct? and those facts included you saying that mr. zimmerman said, what you doing around here? >> yes. >> you do acknowledge, though, the first time that you were asked that question in your interview with mr. crump later that day, your response was that mr. zimmerman said, what you talking about? >> yes. >> are you sure those were the words that trayvon martin said, or could you have been sort of trying to figure out what was said and that's what you came up with? >> i'm sure. >> which are you sure
did you tell miss fulton what the man said when trayvon martin said why you following me? did you say to miss fulton what the man said in response? >> yes. >> and what did you tell her? >> what you doing around here? >> i'm sorry? >> what are you doing around here? >> so that's what you told miss fulton? >> yes, in the car, yes. >> and you're sure you're actually had a conversation with miss fulton -- >> not for that -- not for that long....
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didn't have to go after trayvon martin. the guy was unarmed, 17-year-old kid with a bag of skittles. i just don't understand why he can successfully claim complete self-defense when all of the aggressive action until the point of this collision is from him. he's got out the car. he's defied advice of the authorities on the phone, and as she said there, rachel, in her testimony, would she have carried on talking to him on the telephone right to that point, if trayvon was the guy going after zimmerman. >> right, if you're hiding in the bushes in the darkness waiting to assault someone, why are you on the phone talking to your girlfriend or your friend? that's a problem that the defense absolutely has. the other problem is george zimmerman's inconsistent versions. you know, we're grilling this 19-year-old. she's not on trial. george zimmerman is and he's given multiple accounts with slightly different versions of what trayvon martin is saying to him -- >> vinnie, he had a lawful right to be there, and that's what the -- >> you
didn't have to go after trayvon martin. the guy was unarmed, 17-year-old kid with a bag of skittles. i just don't understand why he can successfully claim complete self-defense when all of the aggressive action until the point of this collision is from him. he's got out the car. he's defied advice of the authorities on the phone, and as she said there, rachel, in her testimony, would she have carried on talking to him on the telephone right to that point, if trayvon was the guy going after...