. >> the california puc does have rules in regard to marketing in a cca environment. i'm not aware that the puc has conducted an investigation and inquired about the puc's role and campaign or any other behind-the-scenes or open activities. >> it seems like there is a great deal where now this past week my daughter was actually looking at a youtube video justin beeber and there came up shell shock. i was stunned to see it and surprised that it was not being done with pg & e and collaboration between the two. i know a lot of people feel that way. the puc, isn't that their role to look at that? >> it might be. i think that c puc would probably look at others to ask for some kind of inquiry. we haven't asked for that kind of inquiry. >> okay. just for the record, my daughter does like justin beeber. >> i'm more of a joanie mitchell fan. >> okay. commissioner mar? >> can you talk a little bit about the green tariff that pg & e is subsidizing the rate and it's competitive. can you talk about that? >> yes, the san francisco is that it supports the tariff to offer to custome

>> most of her budget, is currently spent comes from the cca side of the budgeting this last year we spent over $2,000, and in the current fiscal year for non-cca related items for her to do and so most of them come just over 2,000 so far as come out of our general fund account. >> okay. >> so she bills according to whichever account she is working on. >> great. >> i am not sure colleagues if we have a sense. and i will lower that amount, to the actual spending or keep the same amount? i want a motion to move to $75,000. >> so moved. and that is seconded by mar and no objection. >> we have public comment on this item and we will open the floor to anyone who wants to come and speak of public comment is open. we will close public comment and recind. >> and we move to lower to $75,000. >> and we can take that without objection. >> and our next item. >> item number four, authority sizing the agreement with the management conducting llc, two, to extend to june, 30, 2013. >> and once again we try to have all of the contracts with the expires at the end of this fiscal year and this one does

i understand that there are also some excess supplies that might be able to serve the cca. of course we would pay for that power so the city was either better off or indifferent. as you know our plan is to initially launch in the neighborhoods where we got the most positive responses from customers in several surveys. we will not include low income customers as part of this process. that was because the rate was a bit higher at one point. we might change our views on that if we can get the rate that for care customers that is comparable for pg & e and they are always welcome to join us. finally we have a rather elaborate customer outreach and education plan that we've developed internally to make sure that everybody understands what the program does and the rights are and ways they can opt out or enroll. as our general manager mentioned, we tried to hear you and also the rate fairness board and our board of supervisors with regard to finding what we call internally a sweet spot for these policy preferences. we want a fair and reasonable rate, we want a product as green as i

solar and the non-cca goal of solar? right because we are moving forward with go solar but we have yet to move the cca. >> right? >> and so we will be able to have that conversation with that right? >> yes. >> and then with respect to the status of go solar, my understanding is that the status of it is that it is a pilot program. will we begin to analyze that and then no longer make those references and just call it a program and a budget item of the puc? >> well, it does not address that specifically, and my hope is that as we move towards a customer, you know, a san francisco customer, based program, that, that that will have the effect of terminating it. and i don't know if we ever need to make a formal declaration i think that if we are starting with our own customer its changes character and i think that the decision to go there says that we have already conclude and there is a benefit of it. >> and at that point,. and if i could clarify, just, to make sure that we have the common understanding of the facts. that th

as you all know the county of sonoma is putting this with cca and have very low bids to provide this and others in california looking at cca to see if they can be components of a bigger research strategy. a few things have changed to allow us to reduce the rate. today it's 11.9 cents we've proposed recs as a way to reduce the rate which i understand is 3 cents of the lower rate attributable to the rates if that is the direction we'll go. we are also hoping to collect $2.4 million a year to allow us to jump start a build out process before we are able to bond and go forward with bigger and more projects. shell has reduced it's pricing a little bit for us. our rates as of today, the proposed rate is 11.9 cents. if we launch today we can set a rate today of under 11 cents. since the pg & e has presented a rate of 9 cents, we are now within striking distance within the pg & e rate and the bill for tier one customers would be for pg & e. this is another table. it shows you three scenarios for three different resources mixes at 11.9 cents retail. each of those scenarios will provide us wit

solar and the non-cca goal of solar? right because we are moving forward with go solar but we have yet to move the cca. >> right? >> and so we will be able to have that conversation with that right? >> yes. >> and then with respect to the status of go solar, my understanding is that the

miss malcolm in particular because i know she has been working with many of the parties involved with cca for a very long time. you are a very quick learner. you have hit the ground up and running. and you are willing to work with them and take into account. what i need to know that we do more work out to provide what the outlook looks like. lastly to our lafco staff, to jason and miss miller, thank you for the amazing work and of course we wouldn't be here without the leadership of our chair commissioner, chair avalos, thank you very much for your steady leadership in getting us to this point and i look forward to action today. >> thank you commissioner campos and of course i inherited a lot of this from you. thank you for your leadership. >> commissioner moran. >> thank you. i tried to remove my request for speaking but the computer didn't operate. >> i am eager to hear from the public because i know there is a lot of people from the public here and i want to make sure that we can hear as many comments as possible. i think this is a historic day. i have been on this commission for five

i agree with supervisor campos that the cca provides a way for us to take care of ourselves going forward to eliminate the shell role and to reduce the recs component which is boent labor and environmental groups are not a huge fan of. you talked about the marine model and i think we should get to that renewable energy as quickly as possible. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hello. my name is theresa mcfarland. i support clean power sf. i'm very excited to opt in as soon as i can do that. i urge you to set this reasonable rate for this so we can move forward. thank you. >> thank you very much. before the next speaker i will read more cards. >>> i believe the rates, it's my understanding that the rates will be a way to provide tangible evidence of what we can do with the build out and jobs in the future. i think that's the key in discussions moving forward. finally i believe this is an opportunity for san francisco to be a hero and the leader in the nation as far as climate action goes. so, thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissio

shell would be able to draw from the county's resources if there was a problem with the contract if the cca failed for some reason. if that was the assumption, i don't think it's correct. since marine launched it's program, it has been paying it's bills and has been signing up customers and growing and i suspect now it's a very creditworthy operation three years in. >> do you know what percent is green in marine? >> marine has two products, i think their base product is 30 percent green and they have a hundred percent green product that is priced i believe around 9 1/2 cents right now. i would have to confirm that for you. >> i would question why their rates are lower? >> right. so, again, they don't have to payback a reserve. they don't have a reserve. they have until recently had a smaller staff that we are proposing on our own budget so our administrative budget is higher than theirs still and we have taken some out of it. we have about 8.6 cents in our rate for build out. they have in the process of building 60 omega watts of power. they have a little bit of a model in san francisco whi

i know that the cca legislation was passed on the way that california crisis, not as a way to provide people with clean power, but as a way to give people an alternative to the monopolies that you have in power and to give communities literally a choice over not just the fossil fuel content of their power but also all other aspects. so with that said, i just would like to urge the commissioners to approve a rate today. i think it's a simple question. the program has already been approved. i would second that by saying encouraging the commissioners to second the proposal to pass 11.5 cent rate today. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. any other member of the public who would like to speak? okay, we'll close public comment. and we want to thank members of the public for being here and representing your point of view on all sides. you are here watching this happen here and watching this process which is very important for us and make some decisions and we have had some great movement from puc staff to bring down the rates and making sure we have funding for financing for build

i agree with supervisor campos that the cca provides a way for us to take care of ourselves going forward to eliminate the shell role and to reduce the recs component which is boent labor and environmental groups are not a huge fan of. you talked about the marine model and i think we should get to that renewable energy as quickly as possible. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hello. my name is theresa mcfarland. i support clean power sf. i'm very excited to opt in as soon as i can do that. i urge you to set this reasonable rate for this so we can move forward. thank you. >> thank you very much. before the next speaker i will read more cards.

bringing further funds into the program by actually having the energy produced be charged for by being a cca customer and i do encourage that kind of thinking. and i encourage that you continue the program. in light of that also, i encourage you to really work on some of the workforce development costs, and the rules so that we have consistent project and delivery capability and as the previous commenter, yeah, with the hardest part about solar is that it is peak and valleys, you ramp up and you have to drop off and we need consistency, and we need continuous availability of funds and very predictable availability of funds for this project to be done. thank you very much. >> john, (inaudible) with the sierra club. we support the proposed changes to the allocations, and it makes sense that the cost of solar has come down and we think that the money could be as the rest of the staff could be split in better and more solar installation and more mega watts for the same amount of money. and so that is a good thing. and what, we are concerned about is, what the delay in releasing firms, i believe

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