we go behind the scenes with debra hersman. her and her staff are interviewing passengers on that flight. they could start with san francisco's benjamin levy. he escaped the burning plane and was getting treated for his bruised ribs a couple of hours of the crash. that's when i interviewed him life during our breaks news coverage. >> people screaming, not believing what was happening to them, i think. i wasn't believing either. the firemen were pretty fast on the scene. i was back on the plane, some firemen, a woman came to the back door of the plane, i think. so the fire, the fire crew was on pretty quickly and then bringing people out to safety. the firemen were pretty fast on the site. so by the time i was -- >> amazing to hear that. ben levy is with us tonight along with two of the first responders. nice to have everyone here. ben, we'll start with you. as we listen to you and you joined us. you were nice to join us the day of the crash. first an foremost, how are you feeling? >> it's been a wild ride the last several days.

listen to what the chair of the ntsb, debra hersman says out of washington a little while ago. >> we had a boeing triple 7, asiana flight 214 that was originating in seoul, south korea destined for san francisco. they were coming in on runway 28 left at san francisco international airport and they crashed on landing. we have a number of investigators who are launching with us here from headquarters. they are being led by investigator in charge bill english. we have a number of subject matter experts who are going to be leading specific teams. those teams are going to be focused on operations, human performance, survival factors, the airport, airport operations, and they're going to be focusing on the aircraft, the systems, structures, and power plants. we'll be supported by a number of team members here in washington, d.c. they're in the process of collecting information on air traffic control operations, on weather, and on maintenance issues. they will be able to gather information while the rest of our team is enroute to provide us with that information when we land so we can hit t

be sure to join us saturday for raj mathai's special interview with ntsb chairman debra hersman. watch as first responders reunite with survivors. it airs thisu6%1 saturday night 6:30. >>> this morning we have new details about a man who turns he to save his family from a capsized boat. we now know one of the little girls he saved is right here in the bay area. she's from here in the bay area. sdwron franklin riggs was in a boat near deal ireland when a storm brood. the boat took on water and toppled over. riggs swam five hours to shore toppled over. riggs swam five hours to shore in a sea fullunj jellyfish. after five hours of swimming, he finally made it to shore and knocked on the door of a home to get some help. the state police and the coast guard found that boat and then rescued riggs's father, sister, 3-year-old nephew and 9-year-old 9-year-old girl is emily horn, a fourth grader visiting from san francisco. during an5.,r'terview with a lol newspaper, horn calls her uncle, quote, a real life hero. yes, he is, young lady. she also says the next time the family goes fishing,

ntsb chair debra hersman said seven seconds before impact the crew realize they're below the air speed and the engine throttles are idle. >> we're not talking bat few. we're talking about a significant amount of speed below 137. >> then just four seconds before impact, a cockpit alert, called the stick shaker, warns of a stall. >> this is both an oral and physical cue to the crew that they are approaching a stall. >> then just one and a half seconds before impact, the crew calls for a go-around or attempt to pull up and try to land again. hersman says the engines responded normally when the crew tried to throttle up but it was too late. the ntsb says until the few seconds before the crash there were no indications of any problems, and sfo's air traffic control tower only realized there was an emergency when they saw it. >> handling appeared routine until the controller noticed the aircraft hit the sea wall. the controller declared an emergency. >> video to please go online and send that in to the ntsb. that could be valuable evidence, valuable clues for them in their investigation. you

. >> pelosi also commended ntsb chair debra hersman for a thorough and professional review of the crash site. and you can always go to ktvu.com where we have the entire ntsb news conference. we are working on a one hour prime time special focusing on the deadly crash at sfo. you can see ktvu in-depth flight 214 this thursday night at 9:00 p.m. right here on ktvu. >>> coming up, a story you will see only on 2. a bay area bus driver suspected of dui. what we've learned about the man entrusted with so many lives. >> and after the break, b.a.r.t. may be running again but negotiations are still unsettle. what unfolded today to move toward common ground. >> temperatures are dropping but not everyone will feel the cool down. i'll pinpoint the most dramatic changes and what to expect in your neighborhood. look at 'em. living on cloud nine with that u-verse wireless receiver. you see in my day, when my mom was repainting the house, you couldn't just set up a tv in the basement. i mean, come on! nope. we could only watch tv in the rooms that had a tv outlet. yeah if we wanted to watch tv someplac

hersman and you can also watch as survivors reunite with first responders in the studio. that will air this saturday night at 6:35. >>> it's 4:35. now to a developing story in oakland, the father of a missing toddler, daphne webb is expected to be arraigned on child endangerment charged. he was arrested after he told him he left his daughter in the car with his 87-year-oldqúj mot who has dementia but they don't consider him a suspect in the little girl missing. the 49-year-old said he went into this store on 79th and international on wednesday.ebw when he came out, he reported his child missing. >> we're not unreal about this. right now, when you're in a situation that you'll never be in a situation, you hope for the best. that's all ki do right now is just hope for the best. >> police searched the waterway at the martin luther king regional parkway looking for signs of the little girl. some neighbors say they haven't seen that baby in weeks. >>> this man's next job was to investigate sex crimes, but this morning he's being charged with committing one hymn self. tony fre

ntsb chair debra hersman said seven seconds before impact the crew realize they're below the air speed and the engine throttles are idle. >> we're not talking bat few. we're talking about a significant amount of speed below 137. >> then just four seconds before impact, a cockpit alert, called the stick shaker, warns of a stall. >> this is both an oral and physical cue to the crew that they are approaching a stall. >> then just one and a half seconds before impact, the crew calls for a go-around or attempt to pull up and try to land again. hersman says the engines responded normally when the crew tried to throttle up but it was too late. the ntsb says until the few seconds before the crash there were no indications of any problems, and sfo's air traffic control tower only realized there was an emergency when they saw it. >> handling appeared routine until the controller noticed the aircraft hit the sea wall. the controller declared an emergency. >> video to please go online and send that in to the ntsb. that could be valuable evidence, valuable clues for them in their investigation. you

hersman and watch survivors reunited with first responders right here in our studio. this one airs saturday night, starting at 6:30. >>> now to a developing story at london's heathrow airport that's where fire on an empty boeing 787 dreamliner forced both of the airport's runways to shut down. no one was on board the ethiopian airline's plane when the fire broke out hours ago. you can see fire trucks at the scene and white fire retardant foam there underneath the plane this is likely to add more pressure on boeing, which has had problems with the dreamliner. earlier this year, it was grounded over concerns over heated lithium ion batteries. >>> u.s. homeland security secretary janet napolitano resigning her position to become president of the university of california system. napolitano will be the very first woman to head the ten campus system in its 145-year history. her nomination by a committee of uc regents coming after a secretive process. uc officials believe her cabinet experiences, including helping lead responses to hurricanes and tore need close definitely h

and sully i'm sure you heard the ntsb chairperson woman debra hersman say they'll be here in a few hours. is this a situation where they will take all these pieces -- will they take a hangar somewhere and reassemble this thing to piece it all back together? >> caller: that's something they do on occasion certainly. i think they will reassemble at least portions of the airplane. whether the entire airplane essentially with twa flight 800 in 1996, it depend upon how much they need to do to find the answers. >> we will have a lot more answers once the ntsb does get those plaque boxes. >> absolutely. so now we leave you for -- for now with a recap of today's events. by now you probably have heard. asiana flight 214 from seoul, south korea crash-landed at 11:30 this morning at sfo and it burst into flames. two people though were killed. 130 others are injured. one person remains unaccounted for. >> the injured have been taken to several hospitals in the bay area we're told at least five are in critical condition. and initial reports say the plane's tail actually hit that rock wall that's just

at this afternoon's ntsb briefing, debra hersman says they were crucial to launching the evacuation. >> the cabin manager seated in 1 l asked the flight attendant seated with her in that area to go to the flight deck and ask the flight crew what to do. >> reporter: the pilot told the attendants not to evacuate. another cabin member saw smoke. >> the flight attendant who was seated in 2 l and this was the senior flight attendant who was trained as a can been manager. he looked to 2 r and he could see fire outside of the window. >> and that is when li and the cabin crew started to evacuate the plane. the six crew members who made a short appearance today were very emotional but they had a message. >> translator: asiana airlines and the flight attendants and personnel are working as hard as possible in order to recover from this accident. >> reporter: right now as we speak, a bus load full of survivors are headed to that crash site. they are probably going to pay respects to those who died in that crash. two young girls, 16 years old, died in that crash and the survivors are headed ther

. >> reporter: today, ntsb chairwoman debra hersman says they wait for first responders to help get passengers out safely, but in this case, the plane was on fire. not until a flight attendant notified the captain about this new emergency did the evacuation plan change. >> we need to understand what they were thinking. what information that they had. what their procedures are. >> reporter: we also found out today the pilot reported seeing a bright light. hersman described the light as a temporary issue. the focus of the investigation centers on why the plane was flying too low, and too slow on final approach. investigators have interviewed 6 of the 12 flight attendants on board. the other 6 are still in the hospital. including the three thrown from the plane when the tail broke off. this photo shows where they were seated in the very back of the plane. >> they looked like they had been dragged over something. >> reporter: telling us three patients are still in critical condition. >> they're dealing with some very critical injuries, and permanent injuries that we can't really fix. >> reporter:

a target airspeed of 137 knots, you just heard debra hersman talking about the fact they were flying significantly slower than that, peter. she said we're not just talking about a few knots her here what does that tell you and what is happening to the plane? >> what what it tells you the crew were not paying attention to their avionics and to their readouts. the per person who has his hands on the wheel, who is flying the plane is responsible for keeping the airport in sight, for, you know, directing the plane towards the runway. the person sitting next to him is calling out airspeed, calling out sync rate, calling out altitude. it got to within seven seconds of landing before they realized they were going too slow and they were too low is inexplicable and inexcusable. jon: the glide slope indicator that is something that tells pilots and actually tells the equipment on board the aircraft how the plane is approaching the runway and tells them whether they're coming in too low or too hot. the glide scope indicator for that particular runway was not working that day but that should hav

. >> reporter: today, ntsb chairwoman debra hersman says they wait for first responders to help get passengers out safely, but in this case, the plane was on fire. not until a flight attendant notified the captain about this new emergency did the evacuation plan change. >> we need to understand what they were thinking. what information that they had. what their procedures are. >> reporter: we also found out today the pilot reported seeing a bright light. hersman described the light as a temporary issue. the focus of the investigation centers on why the plane was flying too low, and too slow on final approach. investigators have interviewed 6 of the 12 flight attendants on board. the other 6 are still in the hospital. including the three thrown from the plane when the tail broke off. this photo shows where they were seated in the very back of the plane. >> they looked like they had been dragged over something. >> reporter: telling us three patients are still in critical condition. >> they're dealing with some very critical injuries, and permanent injuries that we can't really fix. >> reporter:

. >> reporter: ntsb chairman debra hersman said no faulty equipment is detected which fuels more speculation the pilots made a mistake. >> dan, one of the pilots said he saw a bright flash. any indication what that might have been? >> reporter: that's something that came up yesterday where the pilot reported seeing a bright light and led to speculation he was temporary blinded. hersman wanted to set the record straight and said he was not blinded and this may have been a reflection from the sun. he could see the controls quite clearly and this appears to be a non-issue. >> appreciate. thanks. >>> randy is here with the "360 bulletin". >>> venezuela is waiting for an answer from edward snowden. venezuela is yet to receive a response on the offer of asylum made last week. >>> the last killing by the boston strange ler may soon be solved. investigators got dna from a nephew of albert desalvo. [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hos

now let's listen to debra hersman, the deputy of the national transportation safety board. we'll talk about it. >> the approach proceeds normally as they descend. there is no discussion of any aircraft anomalies or concerns with the approach. a call from one of the crew members -- >> okay. stop it. roll -- go back to the beginning of that soundbyte. i want you to leave our microphones open, producers, and when i say pause it, pause it. start from the beginning of the soundbyte, and then mary and jim and i will go through it. okay. play it, please. >> the approach proceeds normally as they descend. there is no discussion of any aircraft anomalies. >> pause it. >> tremendously important right there because that piece of data tells us that up until that point things were proceeding normally, and crew resource management, if something was going wrong. one pilot is supposed to challenge the other. excuse me, this is wrong. this is wrong. but that wasn't occurring. everything was occurring normally, so up to that point there's no indication of engine problems, flat problems, cont

joining us now from san francisco the chairman of the national transportation safety board debra hersman. i know you are investigating and you have got to be careful about what you say or aviation experts we talked to believe it is pilot error because a lot of planes are coming and going without incident at san francisco that day and the video shows that the plane was going down. we already knew the speed was too late. too slow and all of that. what i want to know is how does the countries train their pilots properly train their properly. >> the federal aviation administration is responsible for safety oversight in the united states. all around the world to make sure that they also are overseeing their companies and their crews particularly those that fly into the united states on passenger carrying flights. >> bill: send people to seoul, south korea and to paris, france and to africa to look at how the pilots are trained, to look at how the planes are maintained? do you do that? >> well, the federal aviation administration is responsible. the ntsb investigates accidents where a separate

. >> reporter: ntsb chairman debra hersman said no faulty equipment is detected which fuels more speculation the pilots made a mistake. >> dan, one of the pilots said he saw a bright flash. any indication what that might have been? >> reporter: that's something that came up yesterday where the pilot reported seeing a bright light and led to speculation he was temporary blinded. hersman wanted to set the record straight and said he was not blinded and this may have been a reflection from the sun. he could see the controls quite clearly and this appears to be a non-issue. >> appreciate. thanks. >>> randy is here with the "360 bulletin". >>> venezuela is waiting for an answer from edward snowden. venezuela is yet to receive a response on the offer of asylum made last week. >>> the last killing by the boston strange ler may soon be solved. investigators got dna from a nephew of albert desalvo. his body will be exhumed for a final dna match. >>> stocks hit another record high today. the dow jones rose 169 points to close at 15,460 that broke the former record set back in late may by 50 points. th

we heard from ntsb chair debra hersman. first with regard to the wreckage, the ntsb did release the runway back to the airport last night so salvage operations can begin. some pieces of the airplane have and will continue to be sent back to washington, d.c. these are probably crucial pieces that are pert meant to the investigation. but majority of the aircraft, the fuselage will stay here in the bay area. lit be removed in sections. 777s are too large to be moved in one piece. it will be taken to a location yet to be announced. when will runway 28l be reopened? that will be a question for the airport itself. they have to remove the debris and resurface some of the runway damaged during saturday morning's crash. the ntsb says the pilot, as we've been reporting this morning, did tell investigate is that a bright light temporarily blinded him during final approach, about 34 seconds out from impact. it was around the same time he realized the plane was flying too low and too slow for a safe landing. the ntsb chairman said they

. >> and you've been listening to the national transportation safety board commissioner debra hersman giving us an update on details of the crash of the asiana flight. she said they had a 17-mile direct approach. no warning signals sent from asiana's plane. we'll give you certainly more and the headlines if she makes news from that crash. all right. coming up after the break, we're going to give you more on the stock market moves as well as what harrisburg, pennsylvania, is doing to try to rescue its cash-strapped economy. i want you to think history. we're back right after this. hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn? yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief! a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so

we spoke with debra hersman, the ntsb chair, saying they only got through interviewing two pilots because of a translation issue from korean to english. the idea is, perhaps this morning, they would interview the other two pilots, one of those pilots being the flying pilot, the pilot that was at the controls when asiana flight 214 crashed at sfo. the safety agency, ntsb, is supposed to be holding a news conference later this afternoon and the idea they impart on us some of the information they glean from these interviews. you might recall that the captain was in training, having never landed a 777 at sfo leading to questions of why didn't his copilot who was experienced in the aircraft take over, and if he did, why did the plane crash? we have a better y50id of what the timeline was like. about a minute and 12 auto pilot was disengaged. 34 seconds later, 500 feet, 134 knots, below the 137-knot minimum required for a safe landing. it takes oobt 28 seconds before the crew realizes they have a problem and try to correct. at eight seconds before impact, the plane is now at 112 knots, 125 feet

listen to what the chair, debra hersman, said just a little while ago here in washington. >> we had a boeing 777 asiana flight 214 that was originating in seoul, south korea, destined for san francisco. they were coming in on runway 28 left at san francisco international airport and they crashed on landing. we have a number of investigators who are launching with us here from headquarters. they are being led by investigator in charge bill english. we have a number of subject matter experts who are going to be leading specific teams. those teams are going to be focused on operations, human performance, survival factors, the airport, airport operations, and they're going to be focusing on the aircraft. the systems, the structures and the power plans. we're going to be supported by a number of team members here in washington, d.c. they're in the process of collecting information on air traffic control operations, on weather, and on maintenance issues. they will be able to gather information while the rest of our team is en route to provide us with that information when we land so we can

we just spoke with the ntsb chair, debra hersman, who based her operations here at this hotel here in south san francisco. we wanted to ask her specifically about the pilot waiting 90 seconds to begin evacuation of that airplane after saturday morning's crash. she did point out to us that the front of the cabin of the airplane along with the cockpit was in relatively good shape immediately after the crash. in such good shape that to anyone who didn't realize the plane had crashed, if they were sitting inside, they would think that nothing had happened. it wasn't crumpled. there was no obvious damage. initially after the crash one of the flight attendants did knock on the cockpit door, asked the pilot if they should begin an evacuation. the pilot said no, tell the passengers to stay calm, stay in their seats while the pilot radioed his emergency into the control tower. >> at about the same time she was issuing the public address announcement we had another flight attendant further back in the airplane who could see a fire starting on the right-hand side about row ten. he got that infor

back in 2010, debra hersman, everybody is familiar with right now, doing a great job with ntsb invited me to be a keynote speaker at a conference on professionalism in aviation. adam: what did you guys do? >> we determined there were no standards. so the last 18 months or so we have developed those standards and, here's the shameless plug. in the book going -- adam: plug away. >> back to professionalism it lays out those six elements, 23 subelements, et cetera, et cetera. can we rank it? yes. should those things be made public? absolutely but not to shame anyone. aviation is a great industry. what we need to do show the people that are ahead of the pack. how do you make money on that? adam: go there. how do you make money? >> yeah. adam: doesn't sound like myself as a consumer will really be part of that ratings system? >> well, no, i think you are. there are a lot of angles in here but think insurance companies. think manufacturers. think, people that are actually, you know, providing suppliers into this. all of those people rely on this core element, i mean the real engine of an airl

we're going to get information from debra hersman on what he had to say. we'll have coverage of that news conference coming up. stand by for that. in the meantime i want to go back to the george zimmerman trial. the jurors are not in the courtroom right now but they're continuing this hearing on whether or not a computerized animation on what happened in the exchange between trayvon martin and george zimmerman should be allowed to be shown as evidence to the jury. you see there rich mantei, one of the prosecutors, he doesn't want that animation to be shown. the defense does. on the stand, daniel schumacher, a computer specialist in these kinds of animations and he's testifying. >> saw two figures doing x at the time jenna lauer was saying y. >> there's not any in-court testimony on it. >> there's not any out of court testimony on it either, is there? >> there's consultation with the attorneys on how long he was out there, when he went back in and when he came out. >> okay. and this is -- so again, you're integrating the visual perspective of one witness, w

this morning ntsb chairwoman debra hersman tells abc7 news they hope to remove the wreckage from the runway in a few days. travelers are warned to continue to expect delays and canceled flights. some passengers who were originally supposed to depart over the weekend are still unable to get a flight to their destination. a number of their flights were diverted to oakland and san jose over the weekend. >>> meteorologist mike nicco has our forecast. >> thank you very much. good morning, everybody. let's look at the high temperatures today. this is as warm as it gets this week, mid-90s in the east bay valleys, mid-80s in the south bay. 67 in san francisco, and 63 at half moon bay. i think we'll see sunshine by about 10:00. if you're heading to the game tonight, 63 dropping to about 58. our coolest days are thursday and friday. leyla? >>> we have an accident? oakland along the nimitz in the northbound direction. we have these two cars tying up one lane at hagegenberger road causing heavy backups from 238. san jose southbound 101 at great american announcer: it's "live! with kelly & michae

we're going to get information from debra hersman on what he had to say. we'll have coverage of that news conference coming up. stand by for that. back to the george zimmerman trial. the jurors are not in the courtroom right now but they're continuing this hearing on whether or not a computerized animation on what happened in the exchange between trayvon martin and george zimmerman should be allowed to be shown as evidence to the jury. you see there rich mantei, one of the prosecutors, he doesn't want that animation to be shown. the defense does. on the stand, daniel schumacher, a computer specialist in these kinds of animations and he's testifying. >> saw two figures doing x at the time jenna lauer was saying y. >> there's not any in-court testimony on it. >> there's not any out of court testimony on it either, is there? >> there's consultation with the attorneys on how long he was out there, when he went back in and when he came out. >> okay. and this is -- so again, you're integrating the visual perspective of one witness, who has no idea what jenna lau

i know that debra hersman, the chair of the national transportation safety board, she's walked through, but there are some specifics that you have. >> reporter: yeah. they have put out information from the flight data recorders and from the voice recorders in the cockpit to try to piece together and give us raw data about what they know about what happened seconds before that crash. they say it was on a normal glide path now and that it was coming in too low and very, very slow. about 40 or 50 miles slower than it should have been. at skbakt impact, it was doing 121 miles per hour, but it was just too late. wolf? >> miguel marquez on the scene for us in san francisco, thanks. americans on that asiana flight 214 could get more money than passengers from china and south korea, if, and there's a big if, there's future judgments against the airline. international law could prevent asian passengers from suing, one expert says passengers will probably get settlements of more than $1 million, even if they were not necessarily physically injured. >>> let's get a check of some of the other top

i know that debra hersman, the chair of the national transportation safety board, she's walked through, but there are some specifics that you have. >> reporter: yeah. they have put out information from the flight data recorders d from the voice recorders in the cockpit to try to piece together and give us raw data about what they know about what happened seconds before that crash. they say it was on a normal glide path now and that it was coming in too low and very, very slow. about 40 or 50 miles slower than it should have been. at skbakt impact, it was doing 121 miles per hour, but it was just too late. wolf? >> miguel marquez on the scene for us in san francisco, thanks. americans on that asiana flight 214 could get more money than passengers from china and south korea, if, and there's a big if, there's future judgments against the airline. international law could prevent asian passengers from suing, one expert says passengers will probably get settlements of more than $1 million, even if they were not necessarily physically injured. >>> let's get a check of some of the other top st

debra hersman got a look at the plane that crash landed yesterday morning. she tells me he the flight data recorder should be key to give investigators hundreds of measurements. everything from air speeds and engine reedouts to flat positions and the cockpit voice recorder will reveal the communications between the crew members and the pilot and copilot before the crash. witnesses and passengers on the plane say it came in low he and its tail struck the runway first and spun out of control and caught fire. >> i asked the ntsb chairman whether they are looking at the pilots actions specifically. >> is pilot error the focus of the investigation? >> today will be the first full day on scene. so everything is really on the table at this point. we have to look at the facts and we want to look at the recorders and do interviews with not just the flight crew but passengers and witnesses and we have to document this. and looking at what pieces came off first. thousand they were impacted. and damaged. the survive ability of the accident and the environment that the a

guys, one last thing, we will be talking with chair woman debra hersman within the next hour. keep in mind, they have yet to interrue the pilots of this plane crash. is something they are hoping to do in the next 24 hours. more answers, they hope to, exactly what went wrong. goes, back to you. >> gary kaminsky has a good question for you. >> good morning i was in and out of san francisco last weekend. the weekend prior. runway was closed. it was a huge x on that runway. do you know what day last week they started to use that runway again? >> i don't know which day last week, gary, they opened it up. it has been under construction. that's the reason the glide scope indicator has not been working. asian na was aware of that. that's one of the questions that investigators are focused on. the id the fact that the glide scope indicator was not functioning. how much of a role did that play in this accident? at this point it's too early to say for sure it was a clear day, pilots have said, listen, that should not have been a determining factor. we are so early on in the investigation

joining me to talk about this all and the very critical investigation under way is debra hersman, the chair of the national transportation safety board, heading this investigation. thank you so much for joining me this morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. you see in some of that video we had exclusively to cnn just how the plane made that landing. yesterday you said that you had not yet pinpointed the focus of your investigation. have you narrowed it down yet this morning? >> i'll tell you, from the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder, we did get very good information about tell us about the last seconds in the cockpit. we know that seven seconds before impact the crew acknowledged in the cockpit to each other that they were slow. they had a target air speed of 137 knots, and they're acknowledging that they're below that. at four seconds they got a stick shaker activation, basically telling them the airplane was about to stall if they didn't take other action. and about 1.5 seconds before impact, they are calling out to each other for a go around, to abort the landin