generally dempsey. you and i have discussed briefly the purchase of helicopters for the afghan armed services. the purchase of russian m i-17 from the export agency controlled by russia that is now selling arms to syria, and country that is still harboring providing refuge to edward snowden. we doesed -- discussed the reason for that sale, and very briefly you suggested you would look in to the possibility of either ending that sale, which will result in helicopters right now, according to the inspector general for afghanistan sitting on the runways of afghanistan because they lack pilots to fly them, and they lack people trained to maintain or repair them. i wonder if there is something we can do either to stop the sales purchases, subsidized by american taxpayers, provided by american taxpayers to an ally -- supposed ally that still doesn't have a status agreement that will enable us to continue providing aid to them. i think in connection with with that question, additional kinds of resources we shou

general dempsey, wonder if i could move to a personnel issue. i know because of your personal commitment to the well being of our troops it's of great interest to you. the electronic medical records system which still is incompatible, the department of defense medical record systems with the va medical record systems despite questions i and others have asked repeatedly under this secretary of defense and the previous one. i remain concerned, to put it mildly, with the fact that interoperability still is a goal, not a reality, and i wonder if you could comment on what can be done to increase the pace of making those two systems compatible. i had thought originally that they would be one system, a billion dollars has been spent on making them one system, and i ask you to comment. >> thank you, senator. i share your concern. i can also assure you that secretary hagel, who as you know has a background in the veterans administration, shares it. he's taken a decision to move the responsibility of the ram management into a -- program management into at

general dempsey, welcome back. let's talk about the situation in egypt. there has been disagreement in washington about the wisdom of continuing to provide assistance. i don't see many jeffersonian democrats in egypt, but i believe the egyptian military has acted with great professionalism and restraint throughout the three years of difficult transis 2011 ouster of hosni mubarak. i believe one of the primary reasons or hasn't been more bloodshed and suffering during this time of transition is the support the united states has provided to egypt through foreign military sales and military to military cooperation. in light of recent events, some have called for the end of these programs. let me tell you how i feel about this and our commitments under the camp david accords and let you respond. first, we must maintain the strength of this relationship to enable us to assist and influence egypt's lee terry leaders. second, the united states would be shortsighted to overlook the return on the debts that we get from the egyptian military, like suez canal access,

and you've spoken to general dempsey and others and they're not calling it a coup. look, the united states has a huge amount of leverage now, billions of dollars worth of leverage. with the people who are in power, let's not mistake who is in power. the agenda is to get back to some kind of civilian democratic rule asap. this was egypt's first ever free and fairly democratically elected president who has been toppled by the military. what the u.s. has to do is make sure that very, very quickly democratic crazy is restored in all its fashions. new elections, presidential parliamenta parliamentary, new constitution and get it back on track. otherwise it's going to look extremely bad, not jut for the u.s. but for the region. where does democratic casey lead if in two seconds you can overthrow it if you don't like it? >> we have this man who certainly earlier was seen as kind of the leader of the liberals and young folks and the secularists. and there was this big thing that he was going to become the interim prime minister and suddenly he didn't. what happened? >> we d

speaking on monday, general dempsey downplay the idea of a zero option that would see the u.s. withdrawal of troops from afghanistan next year. seek aconvinced we all future afghanistan that is stable, unified, has a constitution that guarantees the freedoms that are guarantee -- that a guarantees, and in the case of the u.s. military in particular, but also the tolition, that we continue build that relationship with the security forces to make them capable of defending themselves against both internal and external threats. dayn monday, the same dempsey spoke him afghanistan's parliament voted in favor of firing the country's interior minister over and ineffective security. president karzai said the interior minister would remain in power for now on the afghan supreme court considers whether parliament had legal grounds to dismiss him. saider today, officials three nato soldiers and an afghan interpreter were killed when a suicide bomber rode a donkey into military convoy in afghanistan toward a province. in egypt, at least six people were killed overnight in clashes between su

i want to go back, general dempsey, to syria. has been thoroughly talked about, but i'm a little bit confused when i heard your response to senator mccain's questioning. here is the way i see where we are with respect to syria right now and your participation in the process. you have been in place about two years, as we all know. during that two years, the conflict in syria has been going on the entire time. there has been virtually an uncontrolled slaughter going on inside of syria. i note that even the president's to be ambassador to the united nations said yesterday in her hearing that the failure of the un security council to respond to the slaughter in syria is a disgrace that history will judge harshly. i agree with that. it is also a fact that the united states has sat by and watched what is happening over had our handsly behind our back. you have been in place for two years. you have been the principal military advisor to the president on this issue and others. has the president followed your advice on the involvement of

senator john mccain says he will block the nomination of general martin dempsey for a second term as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. that's after a testy exchange between the two over the civil war going on in syriaened at role that the united states military should play. >> the decision on whether to use force is the decision of our elected officials. you know, i just ask the chairman just asked you if you would give your personal opinion to the committee if asked. you said yes. i'm asking for your opinion. >> about the use of strikes. that issue is under deliberation inside of the -- our agencies of government and it would be inappropriate for me to try to influence the decision with me rendering an opinion in public about what kind of force we should use. so that was a. no general dempsey did acknowledge the conflict in syria is turning in favor of president pa share assad. jennifer griffin at the pentagon. it's not the first time senator mccain and general dempsey have butted heads. >> that's right, harris. the tension goes back to the iraqi surge. >> would you agree that

i have had frequent occasions to seek the view of admiral dempsey -- general dempsey and admiral winnefeld. wheren the few instances i have disagreed, i find their positions to be thoughtful and well reasoned. if confirmed, our nominees will face a series of continuing challenges. in syria, a saud is using airstrikes, yours, tanks, all to attack the people -- assad is attacking the people. he is using chemical weapons against insurgents. he is increasingly relying on foreign fighters run iran and hezbollah to sustain his grip on power. his actions have killed more than 100,000 syrians leaving thousands to flee the country and forcing more than 4 million more to be internally displaced ,he malevolent -- displaced leveling villages. i look forward to hearing the nominees views on increasing the pressure on saud in support of the administration's goal in persuading that the current administration cannot last that has the support of both the syrian people and an international coalition and a political settlement that will translation -- transition syria to a post-saud regime. assad regime. the

the natios highest-ranking general, chairma of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey also elains in a letter to congress by intervening inyria would be a terrible idea. dempsey wrote, should the regime's institutions collapse and the absence of a viable opposition, we could inadvertently empower extremists or release the very chemical weapons we seek to control. joining me now to talk about what we can expect is a fox news national security analyst katie mcfarland who will also be giving us her view on this story, the administration would probably like us to ignore it. a group in iraq is now claiming responsibility for freeing some 50 suspected terrorists. an unknown number of other prisoners from another prison near baghdad. and also tonight, the latest on3 the internal revenue service scandal. tonight we talk with the man who says he and his wif for personally targeted by the irs after theytarted the southwest cincinnati tea party. we begin tonight with syria. members of congress play any role and syria likely influenced by pollshat show up birds of 60 percent of all ame

do you get a sense from reading this letter sent by general dempsey of what the obama administration is likely to do? >> i think we're going to see a small-scale commitment of military resources to support the rebels. nothing large, nothing too lethal. small arms and ammunition. maybe not even antitank weapons. my sense is that is a, you know, a slow movement towards a potentially greater commitment but nothing really dramatic in the way of arms. >> woodruff: small arms and ammunition. in fact, in this "washington post" story we just referenced, john mearsheimer, says that's already what's been approved. what more do you see the administration prepared to do? >> i don't think the administration is prepared to do anything else. it's very clear from general dempsey's letter that the pentagon is opposed to upping the ante in syria. it's very clear from the way president obama has been dragging his feet that he has no interest in intervening in syria either. i think this is the smart policy. we have no strategic interest in what happens in syria. it is not a vital national interest that

of people like this or rather beyond that there's a whole economic component here as general martin dempsey briefed members of congress on the options that are on the table with syria everything from arming rebels which is what the president's going forward with doing all the way to a no fly zone to targeted air strikes and you see that if we're just going to arm the rebels it's going to be like five hundred million dollars a year but if we start doing stuff like a no fly zone or targeted strikes we're talking a billion dollars a. type figures how is this even on the table an option considering the noise that's coming out of washington about austerity and how we need to be reining in spending rather than massive new amounts of spending on some sort of military engagement rhetoric about the fence in the united states always seems to exempt fiscal sanity and this is no different you know dempsey also recommended you know securing chemical weapon sites or the creation of buffer zones which you rightly say would cost that he estimates would cost billions of dollars but in that same lesson to se

general dempsey one of the duties is to provide your military advice on the strategic environment in military needed to address that environment through the chairman's risk assessment and given the current world environment which seems to be changing minute by minute, senator ayotte just detailed what has happened in the last 24 hours with respect to russia. what changes would you make today to your risk assessment from a pro? >> thanks, senator. the first thing i think you have probably noticed is we have changed -- which previously had been a combination of combatant commander. by the way to senator inhofe's comments earlier since i've been chairman of the requirements the combatant commanders have submitted have actually increased the centcom and africom notably so to the point about increasing risk and declining readiness and we changed it to try to align what we are doing with national security interest on prioritize because that is not our responsibility to prioritize them and we took, we made an estimate of what we are doing across the globe that is being placed at risk and we

of people like this or rather beyond that there's a whole economic component here as general martin dempsey briefed members of congress on the options that are on the table with syria everything from arming rebels which is what the president's going forward with doing all the way to a no fly zone to targeted air strikes and you see that if we're just going to arm the rebels that's going to be like five hundred million dollars a year but if we start doing stuff like a no fly zone or targeted strikes we're talking a billion dollars a. type figures how is this even on the table an option considering the noise that's coming out of washington about austerity and how we need to be reining in spending rather than massive new amounts of spending on some sort of military engagement rhetoric about the fence in the united states always seems to exempt fiscal sanity and this is no different you know dempsey also recommended you know securing chemical weapon sites or the creation of buffer zones which you rightly say would cost that he estimates would cost of billions of dollars but in that same lesson

dempsey wrote, should the regime's institutions collapse and the absence of a viable opposition, we could inadvertently empower extremists or release the very chemical weapons we seek to control. joining me now to talk about what we can expect is a fox news national security analyst katie mcfarland who will also be giving us her view on this story, the administration would probably like us to ignore it. a group in iraq is now claiming responsibility for freeing some 500 suspected terrorists. an unknown number of other prisoners from another prison near baghdad. and also tonight, the latest on3 the internal revenue service scandal. tonight we talk with the man who says he and his wife for personally targeted by the irs after they started the southwest cincinnati tea party. we begin tonight with syria. members of congress play any role and syria likely influenced by polls that show up birds of 60 percent of all americans from both parties want little or nothing to do with that 2-year-old civil war including farming any of the various rebel groups. fox newsschief washington correspondent jam

of people like this or rather beyond that there's a whole economic component here as general martin dempsey briefed members of congress on the options that are on the table with syria everything from arming rebels which is what the president's going forward with doing all the way to a no fly zone to targeted air strikes and you see that if we're just going to arm the rebels it's going to be like five hundred million dollars a year but if we start doing stuff like a no fly zone or targeted strikes we're talking a billion dollars a. type figures how is this even on the table an option considering the noise that's coming out of washington about austerity and how we need to be reining in spending rather than massive new amounts of spending on some sort of military engagement rhetoric about the fence in the united states always seems to exempt fiscal sanity and this is no different you know dempsey also recommended you know securing chemical weapon sites or the creation of buffer zones which you rightly say would cost that he estimates would cost billions of dollars but in that same lesser two s

republican senator john mccain pressed dempsey to say what he would do, but the general declined. >> the decision to use force is the decision of our elected officials. >> you know, i just ask the chairman-- just asked you if you would give your personal opinion to the committee if asked. you said yes. i' m asking for your opinion. >> about the use of kinetic strikes? that issue is under deliberation inside of the-- our agencies of government, and it would be inappropriate for me to try to influence the decision with me rendering an opinion in public about what kind of force we should use. >> holman: afterward, mccain said dempsey must share his recommendations with the committee and he'll block dempsey's nomination for a second term as chairman of the joint chiefs, until he gets an answer. a military judge refused today to dismiss a charge of aiding the enemy, against army private first class bradley manning. it's the most serious of 21 charges in manning's court- martial, for leaking of reams of classified documents to wikileaks. if he's found guilty on that count, manning could se

general martin dempsey's letter to congress outlines five options, ranging from training and arming rebel groups to establishing a no-fly zones and taking control of syria's chemical weapons. price tags range up to $1 billion a month. dempsey warns that taking one step could lead to deeper involvement. >>> don't look for ryan braun during the rest of the brewers' season because he is suspended. braun accepting a 65-game ban without pay for violating the league's substance program. it will cost the former mvp about 3 million bucks. he apologized and admitted to making mistakes. he's willing to accept the consequences of his actions. >>> also this morning, word that actor dennis farina has died. his most recognizable role is probably that as a detective on tv's "law & order." but he also played to bad guys on screen. before turning to acting, farina served in chicago's police department for 18 years. he died yesterday in scottsdale, arizona, after suffering a blood clot in his lung. dennis farina was 69 years old. >> he played a great bad guy. "midnight run," he was so good in that. >> and

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general martin dempsey, chair of the joint chiefs of staff, told the senate armed services committee thursday he has provided president obama with military options. dempsey responded to heated questions on syria from arizona senator john mccain. >> i am asking for your opinion strikes.se of >> that is under deliberation inside of our agencies of government and would be inappropriate for me to try to influence the decision with me rendering an opinion in public about what kind of force we should use. >> vinegar mccain has vowed to block the reconfirmation of dempsey over what he says are inadequate responses on syria. the u.s. announced plans -- plans to arm the rebels last month, but the effort has stalled amid questions by congress. reuters reports britain has dropped its plans to arm the rebels due to public opposition and fear the weapons of provides could end up in the wrong hands. john kerry is wrapping up a visit to the middle east today after failing to advance plans for peace talks between palestinians and israelis. palestinian negotiators a call for israel to agree to guaran

dempsey warned that intervention would end up costing so much the u.s. military might not be able to respond to crises in other parts of the world or it might trigger a sudden collapse of the syrian government and "unleash the very chemical weapons we seek to control." >> pelley: david martin at the pentagon for us tonight. david, thank you very much. pope francis is on the second day of his visit to brazil. he celebrated a private mass today, but he'll be out in public again tomorrow when he visits a shrine dedicated to the country's patron saint. and while the pope was out of view today, he was very much in the hearts of the faithful. dean reynolds is in brazil. >> reporter: thousands of worshipers gathered on rio's copacabana beach tonight for a mass in honor of pope francis. the pope has a sensitive task here in brazil. just last month the streets were full of demonstrations against the government, protesting general ineptitude and an indifference to the poor. there is a chance the pope's trip here and his spiritual identification with the poor could

. >> general martin dempsey is no stranger to the spotlight but the joint chief chairman got a very special honor as the nation celebrated its independence day. ♪ oh say ♪ can you see ♪ by the dawn's ♪ early light ♪ what so proudly ♪ we hail ♪ as the twilight's ♪ last gleaming >> dempsey singing the national anthem before the nationals game against the brewers. he was joined by the army chorus since he is known for his sinatra-like voice. we're told his favorite thing to sing is "new york, new york" >> a fox news alert. while you were sleeping more than a dozen people were injured in california. this happened after a massive explosion that was at an annual 4th of july fireworks show. >> one minute they were watching the fireworks and the next chaos broke out. [screaming] >> they were two minutes into that show when the fireworks began shooting sideways into the crowd instead of up into the air. you can hear everyone screaming as they ran away from the massive explosion. as many as 28 people were hurt at this 4th of july celebration in simi valley, california. fire fighters s

general dempsey, thank you for your recent visit to new hampshire. it really meant a lot to our men and women in uniform. they said to me, and said so much about your leadership to go here and also at the shipyard, the civilian work force. i wanted to ask you yester day, -- yesterday, i was deeply troubled by reports that came out about the pow accounting command. they said that unfortunately, the leadership structure is undermining the important function with more than 83,000 of our country's heroes missing or unaccounted for. i believe that we have a moral obligation. this follows up with a recent report that says that an internal study, it was so mismanaged and wasteful that it risked descending from this function to a total failure. her allegations that the internal study had been suppressed by the dod -- there were allegations that the internal study had been suppressed by the dod. i would like to ask you, what are we going to do about this? how do we make sure that we do our responsibility and have been -- that we do our responsibility to those

i mean, he was browbeating the general dempsey. the joint chiefs chairman. we have not seen that. here is a military man acting with outright contempt as he addressed the general. what to you make of it? >> i think this goes obviously to the question of arming syria and opposition. g and a peak the obvious direction is syria, the government. it is doing better. even more importantly opposition is committing fratricide. the terrorists are attacking the elements you could consider as possible. and if the opposition continues to fragment, he will walk the victor. lou: t think u.s. senators to walk like that? tough talk like that? >> no. the answer to that is no. i think all of washington could do for a little bit of civility. the president talks about a does not practice it. i think we should try and disagree on policy and not personality. that is my idealistic view. lou: i agree with you. i don't know. sometimes i can -- that can masquerade as something else. i do think respect to be highly in order. >> you can have a policy disagreement without making a personal. >> especially when

i mean, he wasroeating the general dempsey. the joint chis chairman. we have not seen that. here is a military man acting with outright contempt as he addressed the general. what to you make of it? >> i think this goes obviously to the question of arming syria and opposion. g and a peak the obvious direction is syria, the government. it is doing better. even more importantly opposition isommittin fratricide. the terrorists are attacking the elements you could consider as possible. and if the opposition continues to fragment, he will walk the victor. lou: t think u.s. senators to walk like that? tough talk like that? >> n the answer to that is no. i tnk all of washington could do for a little bit of civility. theresident talks about a does not practice it. i think we should trynd disagree on policy and not personality. that is my idealistic view. lou: i agree with you. i don't know. sometimes i can -- that can masquerade as something else. i do think respect to be highly in order. >> you can have a policy disagreement without making personal. >> especially when a man is weari

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>> actually, general dempsey, and you and i went through this in 2006. when i said that it wasn't succeeding and that we had to have a surge and that only a surge could succeed in reversing the tide of battle and you disagreed with me then, way back then. and i think history shows that those of us who supported the surge were right and people like you who didn't think we needed a surge were wrong. >> in syria, every day that goes by, the assad regime makes gain. >> is assad winning? >> apparently the tide seems to have shifted in his favor. >> is he winning overall or not? >> i think if i had to pick who was winning it would be the regime but not by much. >> reporter: it could lead to the overthrow of jordan's king as well. >> it would be a horrible thing for the mid-east, wouldn't it? >> yes. >> reporter: after the hearing, senator mccain told reporters that he put a hold on dempsey's renomination, an aggressive move to put the white house on notice about syria and his desire for u.s. military action there. bret? >> jennifer, thank you. >>> few issues i

on a more serious note, general dempsey spoke to cnn's candy crowley. you are going to see why the united states and the egyptians have closer ties than in the past ten years, on cnn's state of the union. >>> an alleged jewelry thief is accused of stealing $1.3 million worth of jewelry from one of the most famous jewelry stores in the world, tiffany. authorities believe it was all part of an inside job. cnn's mary snow has more details. >> reporter: audrey hepburn's breakfast there helped to immort immortalize it. tourists snap photos, but it is what happened on the inside that was shocking. federal prosecutors charged ingrid okun, who was stealing jewelry and re-selling it. saying as alleged, ingrid okun went from a vice president of a high end jewelry company to jewel thief. she was arrested in connecticut. her attorney declined comment. prosecutors say that okun worked there until february, when she was laid off due to downsize in. as part of her job she had been allowed to take or check out jewelry from the store for work-related reasons. the proble

and therefore i think the verdict is still out and general dempsey is right. this is a moment to see what transpi transpires. if the military takes control, it's a coup. if there is a transition into democracy, it's not pl. >> the military to military context actually proved very valuable during the first revolution. it also strikes me that we're now seeing reports that the u.s. said to the egyptian military don't do this and they went ahead. so one has to wonder how valuable those contacts are. >> i think they're very valuable. i've been very much a leaver that having good relations from military to military standpoint is absolutely critical to our policy and continue to believe that. having said that, the relationship in the early years of the obama administration with then president mubarak was also cautionary to say if you don't do in some things that need to be done in your country, at some point bad things will happen and sure enough they did. mubarak just chose not to listen. he probably thought he knew better. but i'm quite sure that behind the scenes

liz: thank you, john dempsey. >> thank you for having me. liz: group vice president, i don't want -- i think this is right color, ashley. what do you think? ashley: what is it lili? liz, liz? looks great. thank you very much, guys. >>> the fight against hackers it is costing u.s. companies billions of dollars. we are live in washington where lawmakers heard startling testimony today. stay with us. liz: stunning testimony on capitol hill today about the huge damage that hackers are causing to the u.s. economy and to businesses. a congressional committee met today to examine the threat extent of this growing threat and steps business and governments should take to protech their intellectual property. ashley: rich edson live from washington with more on this story. rich? >> it is expensive. the one estimate puts the annual cost of cyber threat in more than $300 billion in a economy largely built on intellectual property. commerce department says intellectual property added $5 trillion to the economy. responsible for 27 million jobs and nearly t

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i've been disappointed not only general dempsey, but the president especially, has not laid out a strategy how they are not just options in a vacuum, but need to be looked in the context of an entire strategy for syria, and this administration -- melissa: you want all the things? >> exactly, one leads to the other. if we don't, the fifth, most expensive one of protecting the weapons, has to be done when hezbollah gets hands on it. the cheaper thing to do is have a bigger strategy and lay out for the american people what happened and the cost of doing nothing versus the cost of having a global strategy in syria regionally to protect israel, to protect the good people on the ground. melissa: looking at these, there's a huge price tag. what do you think is the cost of doing nothing? >> the cost of doing nothing is giving aaron the green light to say they are own syria giving iran the green light to mobilize hezbollah and do what they want and spread terror in lebanon an threaten israel and spheeling empowered to do that, and continuing to allow syria to be the biggest factory of terrorism aro

hundreds of aircraft, ships, other enablers across would be in the billions, according to martin dempsey. and number three, established a no-fly zone in the estimated cost of $500 million initially, averaging as much as a billion dollars per month over the course of a year. and it will also fail to shift the momentum according to the chairman of the joint chiefs. number four is to establish buffer zones and ground forces if needed. number five is control chemical weapons and thousands of special operations forces and other ground forces would be needed to assure critical coverage. costs could be well over $1 billion per month. jenna: what is the response from senator john mccain? reporter: he announced after receiving the letter that he would no longer block or recommend a hold on general martin dempsey's renomination as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. >> i don't know if it's dishonest or disingenuous, but it's certainly not something that reveals the nature of the threat. reporter: senator mccain said there is a long history of pentagon generals to present options that are so out

general dempsey didn't do that. i'm confident that we can work this out. one final word on russia, it's time to get tough with russia. it's time that we speak out on these human rights abuses, on these convictions, on this autocratic kgb colonel that continues to oppress the russian people in a way that we need to at least respond to, including expanding the magniski law. >> and also on snowden, of course. >> it has to have some effect, and right now we are showing no response. >> senator john mccain, thank you for coming this sunday. >> thank you for letting me squeeze that last one in. >> thank you so much. >>> when we return, mending race relations in the wake of the george zimmerman verdict, and we'll look at how minority unemployment factors factor into the equation. la's known definitely for its traffic, congestion, for it's smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the busses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution to the earth. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the envi

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general martin dempsey is chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he says it could cost us up to $1 billion per month to establish a no fly zone to protect the rebels. another 1 billion-dollar option would be to set up buffer zones giving safe areas to organize and train. that would require thousands of u.s. troops on the ground. general dempsey says the late -- the last, i should say, the least invasive option would be to simply train, assist, and advise rebel fighters. that would cost us roughly $500 million per year. continuing coverage of his royal lineness, the baby. what does jonathan's mum think. dominating hitter out for the year. major laters suspension in the steroid scandal. analysts warn more suspensions may very well be coming as we approach the bottom of the hour and the top of the news. then i better use the capital one purchase eraser to redeem my venture miles for this trip. purchase eraser? it's the easy way to erase any recent travel expense. i just pick a charge, like my flight with a few taps, it's taken care of. impressive bald

and you had the joint chiefs chairman martin dempsey, his counterpart in egypt. what is the u.s.'s number-one interest here and how should this administration be dealing with the situation now? >> i think we need to be very clear. much clearer than we have been with the muslim brotherhood in egypt and around the middle east about what our values are and our interests are. and to not be fascinated by trying to understand them. they are not that difficult to understand. they are the religious right of the arab world and they want power. so, for example one of the things we really node to stress is that the only way out of this situation for egypt -- and this is a message for the muslim brothers and the president and it's a message to the military -- is an election. clearly there was one but clearly the egyptian public is not satisfied. we don't have a stable situation. we don't really have a workable constitution. we don't have a functioning parliament. all of those things require the will of the people to be respected. and also we need to make the point again and again that not onl

can i believe general dempsey did say that? i know terry kpleeltly disagrees with me. it would seem like a bad idea. >> and you would be right, i think. >> see if i've got anything on the other page. >> i think in israel, thef an all female combat brigade. maybe that's the solution here. and that keeps you awake. >> what do you mean by combat? think about it this way. women who won't drop their pens at the first side of success. >> imagine the pittsburgh steelers say we're going to break ground. we're going to have a female offensive line. none of the other professional teams have to do that. so they go up against the oakland raiders. this is what you're saying. it's not like the inmy is going to do the same thing. we'll do the same thing because it's only fair. >> you wouldn't have a whole lot of gals to fill those units. but you might only get one or two. >> we fight a alongside the insdij nous folkings. >> you i've already made my job harder. >> lorie, you're probably dangerous as anybody. >> all right. we've got to take a break. that was a scintillating conversatio

. >> general dempsey, our u.s. chairman of the joint chiefs has talked in the last several days with general assisi, the chief of staff of the egyptian military. the ties remain close. again, my sense is that there's a very close relationship, but in terms of the green light that the military wanted, the explicit assurance that the this had u.s. backing, i don't think they've gotten it. >> rose: clarissa, you're on the ground there. having understood the context and been reporting from there, tell me where we are at this moment. >> well, i think right at the moment we're in this sort of state of anticipation. it's almost electric. i don't know if you can hear in the background at all until the square, people are chanting, they're chanting slogans, beating drums, blowing whistles, they feel that virginia tech victory is so close. although that victory is still so ambiguous. this is not a unified opposition this is not a group of people who agree on a political vision for the future of this country or prove the next

paragraphs that follow are even a little more interesting because, basically, between the lines, general dempsey is saying, "eat out of serious -- "keep out of syria." not in those exact words, but he has talked about the mission getting larger interesting from original goals, and he outlines the possibility that the goals will not be achieved at all. this is america's highest ranking military official basically saying, "don't do it." the administration does not want to do it either, so there's no reason to believe it will really happen. >> is the u.s. at risk of losing credibility if it stays on the sidelines of this conflict? >> we all know about the red line that barack obama outlined last year, saying that there would be serious consequences if the serious regime used chemical weapons against its own people -- if the syrian regime used chemical weapons against its own people. that has been the assessment of the government itself, but there have been no serious consequences. they are the most powerful military nation in the world, and they can do just what iran is doing for the other side, ar

. >> as you know, the dempsey letter did not bring up the option of aiding the syrian rebels with arms. support giving arms to the rebellion? >> i could see a role for assistance to the rebels. there are a host of questions. who exactly are they? how does it plan? when you do that, the logical next question is what will be the future step? context ofin the those kind of consideration. i guess this prompted some tough decisions. the senate finance committee told them if they had ideas on inorm they could submit them the ideas would be locked away until 2064. did you submit any? what do you make of this idea of keeping them secret? no one will be, much surprise by my submissions with respect to tax reform. haveell over five years i been involved in bipartisan approaches for this. it really goes back to the date when rahm emanuel was still in the house and we could not even find a republican sponsored. i have consistently said the from 1986 wetion clean up these tax rates and use the money to hold down rate but the productivity and help middle class. the consumer drive 70% of the economy.