foreperson. >> foreperson. okay. sorry about that. >> if the society that you get in the box, if you are the first juroror to be societied you are the foreperson. in other states and jurisdictions it is done by a vote or somebody who assumes that responsibility. i think it is human nature when you put people together in a confined space regardless of the foreperson will be taking the lead and coral the trips if you will. i have no doubt that that is happening. that is part of what the verdict ultimately is. i have to believe that the jurorsine though they are sequestered. they have to know that everybody in america is attuned to what they are going to decide? >> i think they can hear people outside. they are only on the second and therd floor deliberating. you have seen the protest. i think they can hear what is going o. they are in a hotel coming back and forth. they can so. no, they can't read the paper or watch television. they knew before they would go in. it seems like years. but only a couple of weeks and the m

the first thing they do is pick a foreperson. i think in this case it's safe to say a forewoman of the jury. that's the person who will sort of guide all of the deliberations, make sure that everybody gets a chance to be heard, make sure that the discussions are civil, decide when they take breaks and ultimately that's the person who signs the verdict form and returns it to the courtroom. you're right. jurors are supposed to bring their common sense into the courtroom. in fact, some of us think that's why it's better to have juries decide cases than judges and lawyers. maybe regular folks have a little more common sense than most of us who spin off with all of our crazy legal theories and technicalities every day. some places like south africa don't have juries. they just have judges and professionals decide the cases. we have jury duty in america. i think that's a good thing. i think it's good to have ordinary people randomly selected from the community to come in and decide cases, especially tough cases like this one. >> well,

these are obviously viable candidates for the foreperson. usually the first thing is who's going to sort of direct this? and then the decision is usually made, okay, how do we go through the evidence? because there's two typical scenarios. one jury is let's go to the verdict questions and let's vote. or it's shall we go through the evidence and pore over the evidence. if they go to the vote quickly, then usually you have a quicker verdict. if they spend a lot of time going through the evidence, obviously it can take a lot more time. >> now i want to bring in trent copeland. let me ask you this. because we watched closing arguments today coming from the defense and then we saw the sort of secondary closing arguments from the prosecution. when you listened to those jury instructions that we heard today, when it comes to second degree murder and it comes to manslaughter, sort of looking back over this entire case, where do you think if there is any the deficit in this case that the prosecution has built that would make it difficult for this jur

so say we all, foreperson. >> does either side want to poll the jury? we would, your honor. >> okay, ladies and gentlemen, i mean ladies, as your juror number is being called, please answer whether this is your verdict. >> juror b 29, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> jorl b 76, is this your verdict? into yes. >> juror b 37, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> jorl b 51, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> jorl e 6, is this your verdict in? je. >> se 40, is this your verdict? yes. >> thank you. >> that verdict coming almost 10:00 eastern straight up from inside that courtroom. we're getting reaction from around the world from celebrities from the martin family. you're going to hear it coming up here on cnn. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all, foreperson. does either side want to poll the jury? sfwoo we would your honor. ladies and gentlemen, i mean ladies. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? new purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn mo

who gets chosen as the foreperson? and i'm interested in the ages of the jurors. several of them are over 40. to somebody offer 40, a 17-year-old is a child. but for someone who has littler kids, a 17-year-old is closer to a man. i think it's significant that the defense wanted to put on a woman, a mother, who said she had her home broken into by a young black man. that's appealing of the fear of strangers or people committing crimes in your community, the threat to your safety that could be posed by the scary person that the defense sort of represented trayvon martin to be. so a lot of that plays into it. i do think the race matters. there are seven african-americans that made it into at least part of the jury pool, all of who were voir dired away. mark o'mara was asked in a press conference afterwards about the concern of the perception that they pushed african-americans off off the jury. i think once the case comes in there's going to be a lot of study about whether the race of these jurors wound up mattering. >> do you think it will in the end, john? >> the pr

unparalleled commitment that this developer has shown us should be an example that everyone should be foreperson after (clapping) an men and women commitment to the labor and lincoln to the artists and hearing their concerns and honoring them and making sure that everyone has a spot a place in this project. so today is just the beginning of reinvention of the area. i want to thank the many members of the citizen adversities committee and i'm even going to throw in the southeast folks. we spent count also hours to bring us to today. thank you all. i also want to thank our labor leaders for not giving up and staying at the table. i want to thank all that everyone benefits from a carpenter to the subcontractors wro who are working and let's get out of the way and get started on this construction. thank you (clapping) >> tim paulson joins us as it's executive director in 2004 so he's been on this journalist with the city to rebuild the shipyard. the san francisco labor council is the center of the labor in san francisco it's comprised of 1 hundred and 50 local unions representing 1 hundred thousand

so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible obviously for the death of this unarmed youngster but did not commit is a crime. how did this case come to the place that it came? how did it occupy everyone from the white house to the governor's office. rick scott's office here in florida to the appointment of the special prosecutor. how did it become and ben crump the family attorney's words the civil rights case of the 21st century. in my friend and colleague phil keating has been tracking it throughout. so tell us, brother, how did it -- describe this evolution from tragedy to political extravaganza? >> really started very slowly a crescendo in the month of march of 2012. first a 17-year-old black kid is shot and killed doing nothing wronging about through the neighborhood a

they control their own little world with their foreperson. sometimes it's very smooth and sometimes the disagreements are worked over and sometimes they're not. they knock on the door or some courthouses have a buzzer to indicate to the bailiff. >> standing outside the door. >> guarding them. >> the bailiff will open the door. they're not allowed to ask him a question. they will fold it over to the bailiff who will take it to the judge and the judge must consult with the lawyers before answering any questions. >> which we saw yesterday. >> they will say this is the question. how do you want me to respond? she'll tell them how she will respond and bring them out and respond. if it's a question of law she'll clarify it. if it's a question of fact, she will say that's for them to decide. >> i believe that craig melvin reported that now the notice has changed in this case from giving 60 minutes to 15 minutes. what would happen in this case is that they'll get a note and you'll get a report from craig, probably and then in 15 minutes back to the r

so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible obviously for the death of this unarmed youngster but did not commit is a crime. how did this case come to the place that it came? how did it occupy everyone from the white house to the governor's office. rick scott's office here in florida to the appointment of the special prosecutor. how did it become and ben crump the family attorney's words the civil rights case of the 21st century. in my friend and colleague phil keating has been tracking it throughout. so tell us, brother, how did it -- describe this evolution from tragedy to political extravaganza? >> really started very slowly and then a crescendo in the month of march of 2012. first a 17-year-old black kid is shot and killed doing nothing wronging about through the neigh

so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible obviously for the death of this unarmed youngster but did not commit is a crime. how did this case come to the place that it came? how did it occupy everyone from the white house to the governor's office. rick scott's office here in florida to the appointment of the special prosecutor. how did it become and ben crump the family attorney's words the civil rights case of the 21st century. in my friend and colleague phil keating has been tracking it throughout. so tell us, brother, how did it -- describe this evolution from tragedy to political extravaganza? >> really started very slowly and then a crescendo in the month of march of 2012. first a 17-year-old black kid is shot and killed doing nothing wronging about through the neigh

foreperson" after george zimmerman is death of trayvon martin. cleanup is underway in oakland this morning after streets following the verdict. coming up. we hope to learn more later today on the shocking death of "glee" actor cory mon- he was found dead in a hotel those details coming up. and giant's fans are waking tim lincecum tossed a no diego. coming up. cleanup is underway in the bay area this morning after protests broke out in san francisco and oakland following florida jurors finding george zimmerman not guilty. this is video of some of the protestors in san francisco from our helicopter partnership with abc-7 news. zimmerman was being tried for the second-degree murder death in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old travon martin. the six-member, all-woman jury deliberated for more than 16 hours over two days before reaching their they had been given the chance to convict zimmerman of manslaughter but did not do so. jurors heard two different portraits of zimmerman and had to decide whether he was a 'wannabe' cop who took the law into his ow

state of florida, versus george zimmerman, we the jury find the defendant not guilt, so say we all foreperson. >> jurors have found zimmerman not guilt of 2nd degree murder in the fatal shooting of trayvon martin. >> these are just some of the images from florida and locally in san francisco. >> we'll have that video for you shortly. >> we also have video of demonstrators from our helicopter partnership of abc 7. the six member, all women jury deliberated for more than 16 hours over two days before reaching their decision an hour ago. >> they had been given the chance to consist zimmerman of manslaughter. >> jurors heard two portraits of zimmerman, whether he was a wanna be cop, or a well-meaning neighborhood watch, who feared for his life. some people are not happy tonight, john? >> reporter: tonight, rallies are breaking out all around the bay area and we first start our coverage in san francisco. >> you can see hundreds of people getting involved here as kron 4, live in the mission district where ralliers just pass by. >> the rally broke up about half an hour ago, but it was the scene, abo

so say we all foreperson. >> welcome everybody to this special edition of new day. that was the moment we have all been waiting for. the reading of the verdict in the george zimmerman murder trial. jury's decision, you heard it, not guilty. some people expected it. many did not. thanks for joining us. i'm chris cuomo. >> i'm kate baldwin. it's 8:00 in the east on this sunday july 14th. thank you for joining us for "new day." it was inevitable after the verdict came down that one side would be happy and one side would express relief, declare justice -- they would also declare that justice had been done and they would want to move on. listen here. >> your bond will be released. your gps monitor will be cutoff when you exit the courtroom over here and you have no further business with the court. >> thank you, your honor. >> but we knew from the beginning if trayvon martin was allowed to be killed and the man that did it to not go to jail there would be outrage and there is. civil rights leaders want the justice department to see if there's a civil rights case against g

we, the jury, find george zimmerman not guilty, so say we all, foreperson. >> good morning, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. it is just 6:00 in the east. good morning. great to see you this sunday. >> i'm chris cuomo. welcome to this special sunday edition of "new day," because we're here, and obviously, the big story, george zimmerman's trial. he is a free man this morning. the long, legal nightmare over. at almost exactly 10:00 p.m. eastern last night, after some 16 hours of deliberating, the verdict was announced. the jury of six women decided zimmerman's shooting and killing of 17-year-old trayvon martin on a rainy winter night last year was justified. the parents of the victim in the case never to hold their son again heartbroken with the jury's verdict. >> mm-hmm. zimmerman stood calmly as he heard the decision, a hint of a smile only at one point. he shook hands with his lawyers but really remained pretty unemotional throughout, as he has throughout the murder trial. trayvon martin's parents, they were not in the courtroom in sanford, florida, when the verdict came in late last nigh

so say we all, foreperson. >> this case has never been about race nor has it ever been about the right to bear arms. >> i'm thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from becoming a travesty. >> almost all white jury. almost never get justice in that situation especially in the south. you about even show i was expecting -- still numbed because taking back to emmett till where we understand black life means a little bit less than white life in america. >> did you see or think when the incident happened that it was racial? >> absolutely not. >> be honest with me. do you think that that was racially motivated or more a case of somebody you thought was a young thug, black or white? >> you believe this was racial profiling and this happened because of that? >> we didn't know details about the case. >> with the verdict we lost the battle. but the war is not over. and we intend to fight. >> a small sampling of the media coverage following the not guilty verdict in the george zimmerman trial. rick, to you first. we heard the prosecutor, angela corey, say this was never about race. so why have

say we all, foreperson. >> zimmerman stoeic as the not guilty -- stoic, as the not guilty verdict was red and then a smile after. this is outside the courthouse. crowds have been gathering there and florida police have been concerned there could be some kind of violent reaction. the family of trayvon martin is also asked for the public to remain calm as has the sanford florida police chief. again, you can see crowds outside the courthouse in sanford, florida. we're going to listen now to the florida state attorney who is speaking righ. >> of the historical as inspect of this case to show that the american justice system -- aspect of this case to show that the american justice system can and only should be done in a court of law. i don't believe it helps anyone for us to be out speaking opinions about our cases and i think as you see, we put this case in front of a jury and that leads me to thanking the jury for the 16 hours of deliberation that they took to go overall of the facts and circumstances. what we always believed was that this was a case of details that had to be analyzed ve

i'd like to go on and say it is hard to believe why our community college is being sanctioned foreperson at conflicts between campus ceos and the employees. why the campus is being sanctioned because they are legally prohibited for violating negotiated collective bargaining agreements. accjc is a non-state agency lacking adequate state accountability and has unleashed authority to oversee state funded community collegeses. it is also a bureaucratic mess of contradictions. while the community college faculty staff and administrators are being forced to ban their normal student and campus responsibilities in order to comply with unsubstantiated accjc mandates. when did a community college become based more on the institution's governance process, which is -- thank you -- dedicated by california state laws and less on the quality of education being provided? these are important questions that we believe the state audit will answer and i'm honored to be joined by [speaker not understood] in this effort to examine whether our community colleges and students are being treated fairly, consisten

so say we all foreperson. does either side want to poll the jury. >> we would, your honor. >> coladies and gentlemen, ladies, i'm sorry, as your juror number is called, please answer whether this is your verdict. >> juror -- is this your verdict. >> yes. >> juror b, 76, is this your verdict. >> yes. >> juror b 37, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> juror b 51, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> juror b 6, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> juror e 40, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> thank you. >> ladies, i wish to thank you for your time and consideration of this case, i also wish to advise you of some very special privileges enjoyed by jurors. no jurors could ever be required to talk about the discussions that occurred in the jury room, except by court order. for many centuries our society has relied upon juries for consideration of difficult cases. we have recognized for hundreds of years that a jury's deliberations, discussions and votes should remain the private affair as long, as long as they wish it, therefor

they selected a foreperson among them. they have also requested the listing of what the exhibits are and the evidence they can have access to. can you read anything into the tea leafs? >> i'm going to make a prediction that the foreperson is female. other than that, of course, we really don't know. i know they asked for a list of exhibits. i liked that. i know one of the women, although we often talk about most of them being mothers and that's true, one supervised a call center of 1200 people. that's a fairly high-ranking person. another ran a construction company. two others work in the medical field. i'm thinking this is a relatively professional and intelligent jury. they want all the evidence there. they want it accessible. they want to go through it. given that, i'm not necessarily expecting a quick verdict when they come back tomorrow. it sounds like the kind of jury that is going to want to walk through testified and take a good look at it. >> you know, paul henderson, i can understand, because of the demographics o

i'd like to go on and say it is hard to believe why our community college is being sanctioned foreperson at conflicts between campus ceos and the employees. why the campus is being sanctioned because they are legally prohibited for violating negotiated collectiv

i'd like to go on and say it is hard to believe why our community college is being sanctioned foreperson at conflicts between campus ceos and the employees. why the campus is being sanctioned because they are legally prohibited for violating negotiated collective bargaining agreements. accjc is a non-state agency lacking adte

so say we all foreperson. >> and that is how it all played out. the highly anticipated end to an extremely dramatic trial, george zimmerman now a free man after being found not guilty in the death of trayvon martin. so what's next for zimmerman? and is the legal battle over, is it really over? the reaction to the verdict is pouring in from all across the country. the first people to weigh in, attorneys from both sides. they gave a news conference shortly after the verdict came down around 10:00 last night. the prosecution was visibly upset that zimmerman was cleared of both second-degree murder and manslaughter. the defense on the other hand wassed ed adamant that not guil the only justifiable option. >> george zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself and self defense. i'm glad the jury saw it that way and i hope that everyone, particularly those who doubt the george's reasons and doubted his background now understand that the jury knew everything that they knew was in fouf them to find him not guilty. >> i am disappointed

so say we all, foreperson. >> well, shortly after the verdict was read, zimmerman smiled and then shook hands with his attorneys, after the jury cleared him of all charges in connection with the shooting death of the florida teenager, trayvon martin. the jury, comprised of six women, deliberated for about 15 hours before they acquitted him. the verdict immediately sparked protests nationwide, including here in the bay area. in oakland, some demonstrations actually turned violent and destructive. alex savidge joins us live from oakland where the store owners are cleaning up. alex? >> reporter: well, yes. quite a bit of cleanup to do here in downtown oakland this morning, following the zimmerman verdict last night. this is a lot of what you'll see around the downtown area, a lot of smashed windows and store fronts, businesses that have been vandalized. what you're looking at here is the sears store on telegraph. you can see just how many windows were smashed up last night as the protest moved through this area. quite a few windows broken during what became a heated demonstration. in one c

stated of florida versus george zimmerman, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilt y so say we all, foreperson. >> does either side want to poll the jury? >> we would. >> ladies and gentlemen -- i mean, ladies, as your juror nu

. >>> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty, so say we all, foreperson. >> as happy as i am for george zimmerman, i'm thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from becoming a travesty. >> we have done our best to ensure due process to all involved, and we believe that we brought out the truth on behalf of trayvon martin. >> the verdict is in after more than 50 witnesses and 16 plus hours of deliberation, a jury has cleared george zimmerman in the death of trayvon martin. but is the legal battle over? there are calls for the justice department to get involved. ♪ somebody to love >> he sang and danced his way into fan's hearts as a sweet core us loving football captain on "glee" now cory monteith is gone. >>> just when it looks like congress can't get more divided they split over immigration reform. but a rift within the gop itself. we'll talk to two republican congressmen about what comes next. i'm shannon breen. america's new headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. >>> the state of florida's case against george zimmerman is over now that a jury has found

. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty, so say we all, foreperson. >> how has this been for you? how was making that decision, when you all realized the last holdout juror decided okay, manslaughter, we can't hold george zimmerman to manslaughter. there's nothing we can hold him to, not guilty. in that jury room, emotionally what was that like. >> it was emotional to a point. but after we had put our vote in and the bailiff had taken our vote, that's when everybody started to cry. >> tell me about that. >> it was just hard. thinking that somebody lost their life, and there's nothing else could be done about it. it's what happened is sad, it's a tragedy this happened. but it happened. i think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. i think both of them could have walked away. it just didn't happen. >> it's still emotional for you. >> it is. it's very emotional. >> can you explain the emotion? >> it's just sad that we all had to come together and figure out what is going to happen to this man's life afterwards. you find him not guilty, but you'

. >>> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty, so say we all, foreperson. >> as happy as i am for george zimmerman, i'm thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from becoming a travesty. >> we have done our best to ensure due process to all involved, and we believe that we brought out the truth on behalf of trayvon martin. >> the verdict is in after more than 50 witnesses and 16 plus hours of deliberation, a jury has cleared george zimmerman in the death of trayvon

so say we all, foreperson. does either side want to poll the jury? >> we would, your honor. >> ladies and gentlemen -- ladies, i'm sorry. as your juror number is called please answer whether this is your verdict. >> jury 25 is this your verdict? >> yes. >> juror b 76 is this your verdict? >> yes. juror b 36 37 is this your verdict? >> yes. >> juror e 6 is this your verdict? juror e 40 is this your verdict? >> yes. >> reporter: just after that moment, he was released from his bond, he had his gps ankle bracelet cut off and he was whisked away. the defense team says to a safe location. they say he'll possibly live in hiding the rest of his life. the interaction will probably tie those two people and those two names eternally together. >> so much going on across the country. let's go to geo benitez. he's been reporting on this case for some time as a florida-based reporter. geo, what are they saying outside the courthouse? >> reporter: david, good evening to you. there are still people here, many who support the state who wanted to see george zimmerman

so say we all foreperson. >> ladies and gentlemen, i mean, ladies. as your juror number is being called, please answer whether this is your verdict. jury b, what is your verdict. >> jury b, 76, this is your verdict. yes. >> juror b, 37, is this your verdict? >> he y juro juror b51, is thisr verdict. juror e6, is this your verdict? >> yes. >> juror e40, is this your verdict? >> yes. ladies, i wish to thank you for your time and consideration of this case. i also wish to advise you of some very special privileges enjoyed by jurors. no juror could ever be required to talk about the discussions that occurred in the jury room except by court order. for many centuries, our society has relied upon juries for consideration of difficult cases. we have recognized for hundreds of years that a jury's deliberations, discussions, and votes should remain their private affair as long as they wish it. therefore, the law gives you the unique privilege not to speak about the jury's work. although you are at liberty to speak with anyone about your

so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible obviously for the death of this unarmed youngster but did not commit is a crime.

so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible obviously for the death of this unarmed youngster but did not commit is a crime.

now that we breck at 2:00, they're going to go right into deliberations and choose their foreperson, read the instructions instruction instructions and deliberate all night long. >> any way to gauge based on your observations which way they're leaping? >> i believe we have a split jury here. two jurors i identified that i feel like are pretty emotionally high strung, and i saw some emotion in their faces. i think their torn. it's going to take a really strong leader. these are now civics women that -- six women that will have to talk through the emeshes, sift it aside and look at this from an analytical point of view and look at the evidence in order to come to a verdict. >> you mentioned a couple of things. first of all you think we'll have a quick verdict. i'm wondering why. and if there's a split jury, if there's a split jury, how do they get around that? they're going to need to come to some kind of unanimous decision here. >> they have to make compromises and when i say quick, i'm not saying like in two hours. if -- it's going to take two hours to read the instructions. but i th

. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty, so say we all, foreperson. >> how has this been for you? how was making that decision? when you all realized the last holdout juror decided okay, manslaughter, we can't hold george zimmerman to manslaughter. there's nothing we can hold him to, not guilty. in that jury room, emotionally what was that like. >> it was emotional to a point. but after we had put our vote in and the bailiff had taken our vote, that's when everybody started to cry. >> tell me about that. >> it was just hard. thinking that somebody lost their life, and there's nothing else could be done about it. it's what happened is sad, it's a tragedy this happened. but it happened. i think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. i think both of them could have walked away. it just didn't happen. >> it's still emotional for you. >> it is. it's very emotional. >> can you explain the emotion? >> it's just sad that we all had to come together and figure out what is going to happen to this man's life afterwards. you find him not guilty, but you'

so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible obviously for the death of this unarmed youngster but did not commit is a crime.

so say we all, foreperson. >> how has this been for you? i mean, how was making that decision, when you all realized, okay, well, the last holdout jury has decided, manslaughter, we can't hold george zimmerman to manslaughter, there's nothing we can really hold him to, not guilty. in that jury room, emotionally, what was that like? >> it was emotional to a point. but after we had put our vote in and the bailiff had taken our vote, that's when everybody started to cry. >> tell me about that. >> it was just hard. thinking that somebody lost their life, and there's nothing else could be done about it. i mean, it's what happened. it's sad. it's a tragedy this happened. but it happened. and i think, i think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. i think both of them could have walked away. it just didn't happen. >> it's still emotional for you? >> it is. it's very emotional. >> can you explain the emotion? >> it's just sad that we all had to come together and figure out what is going to happen to this man's life