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>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it until later. then i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny. but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor -- i don't know his name. >> the doctor for the defense? >> yes. >> what about him? >> i thought he was awe-inspiring. the experiences he had had over in the war, and i just never thought of anybody that could recognize somebody's voice yelling in like a terrible terror voice when he was just previously half hour ago playing cards with them. >> that is george zimmerman. >> a lot of analysts watching the trial felt that the defense attorneys, marks o'mara, don west, were able to turn prosecution witnesses to their advantage. chris serino, the lead investigator for example, did he make an impression on you? >> chris serino did. but to me he just was doing his job. he was doing his job
>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it until later. then i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny. but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor -- i don't know his name. >> the doctor for the defense? >> yes. >> what...
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zimmerman. >> george zimmerman who? okay, good you're on the jury. >> what didn't the six female jurors hear and why? >> the judge excluded a number of negative personal items about trayvon martin. >> for a year the defense team desperately wanted the jury to see what it called 17-year-old trayvon martin's checkered past. like the three school suspensions including one for having been caught with traces of pot. and another for allegedly having burglary tools in his backpack. there's in video martin shot himself, the only available sample of his voice laughing as foolishness played out. then are these photos from his cell phone, him giving the finger, marijuana plant, blowing smoke. the only reason to introduce that picture would have been to smear trayvon martin. that's not what this case is about. >> what's the most important piece of evidence they didn't hear? >> i think they had the right to hear about trayvon martin's past. >> zimmerman's defense attorney mark o'mara is talking about tex messages in which martin pos
zimmerman. >> george zimmerman who? okay, good you're on the jury. >> what didn't the six female jurors hear and why? >> the judge excluded a number of negative personal items about trayvon martin. >> for a year the defense team desperately wanted the jury to see what it called 17-year-old trayvon martin's checkered past. like the three school suspensions including one for having been caught with traces of pot. and another for allegedly having burglary tools in his...
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day 22 of the george zimmerman trial, the defense has rested and george zimmerman has chosen not to testify although not before a tense exchange between judge debra nelson and defense attorney don west as the judge asks zimmerman whether he wanted to testify on his own behalf. it was a day in which both prosecution and defense attorneys used a mannequin to demonstrate what may hav
day 22 of the george zimmerman trial, the defense has rested and george zimmerman has chosen not to testify although not before a tense exchange between judge debra nelson and defense attorney don west as the judge asks zimmerman whether he wanted to testify on his own behalf. it was a day in which both prosecution and defense attorneys used a mannequin to demonstrate what may hav
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zimmerman, verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all, foreperson. >> it was interesting that he didn't have -- sorry, mark. i was just saying is he had absolutely no reaction in that moment. >> right, yeah. when you looked at his face, i wasn't even sure he had heard it quite clearly. it was flat. there was no reaction. his wife, shelley, was there. she began crying quietly. we looked over and it was noticeably obvious that trayvon martin's parents, who had been there throughout, tracy martin and sybrina fulton, were not there. >> yeah, and i talked to darrell parks, the attorney for the martin family. he said that was a predetermined thing, that they decided in advance they wouldn't be there for that. they did make statements on twitter. >> right. they have. they've spoken out, essentially. i'm paraphrasing very quickly here, but what they said was their faith -- or their hearts were broken but their faith has not been broken. they reiterated something they have maintained throughout. that is they asked for public calm. i
zimmerman, verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all, foreperson. >> it was interesting that he didn't have -- sorry, mark. i was just saying is he had absolutely no reaction in that moment. >> right, yeah. when you looked at his face, i wasn't even sure he had heard it quite clearly. it was flat. there was no reaction. his wife, shelley, was there. she began crying quietly. we looked over and it was noticeably obvious that trayvon martin's parents, who...
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. >>> tonight, high drama in the george zimmerman trail. tray vob's mother testifying that the voice here on the 911 audiotape screaming in the background belongs to her dead son. and the attorney for trayvon's family is here to go on the record. >> have you ever heard him while he was growing up, heard him cry or yelling? >> yes. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there just were gun shots. >> just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> screaming or yelling, do you recognize that? >> yes. >> and who do you recognize that to be? >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> you know whose voice that was screaming in the background? >> yes, sir. >> whose voice was that? >> my son, george. >> are you certain of that? >> because he's my son. >> what was the manner of death, sir? >> the manner of death is home. he was killed by another person. he was still alive, and he was killed. he was suffering. >> objection. not a relevant issue. >> just a second. your objection is relevance? overruled. >> there's only one reason to squeeze the trigger at someone's heart and
. >>> tonight, high drama in the george zimmerman trail. tray vob's mother testifying that the voice here on the 911 audiotape screaming in the background belongs to her dead son. and the attorney for trayvon's family is here to go on the record. >> have you ever heard him while he was growing up, heard him cry or yelling? >> yes. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there just were gun shots. >> just heard gunshots? >> yes. >>...
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>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it until later. then i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny. but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor -- i don't know his name. >> the doctor for the defense? >> yes. >> what about anymore >> i thought he was awe-inspiring. the experiences he had had over in the war, and i just never thought of anybody that could recognize somebody's voice yelling in like a terrible terror voice when he was just previously half hour ago playing cards with them. >> that is george zimmerman. >> a lot of analysts watching the trial felt that the defense attorneys, marks o'mara, don west, were able to turn prosecution witnesses to their advantage. chris serino, the lead investigator for example, did he make an impression on you? >> chris serino did. but to me he just was doing his job. he was doing his
>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it until later. then i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny. but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor -- i don't know his name. >> the doctor for the defense? >> yes. >> what...
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what it proves is that george zimmerman, if people understand george zimmerman to be saying trayvon martin grabbed him by the head in a manner that would cause some kind of dna from george zimmerman to get under his fingernails and slammed his head, as he claimed, in to the sidewalk. you might expect some amount of dna from george zimmerman to be under his fingernails but also might not. i have to say it is helpful to the prosecution. it is not a slam dunk or a big ticket item but it is something to add to the evidence that the prosecution has presented to show the contact between trayvon martin and george zimmerman may not be as zimmerman described. >> mark gary goes, do you think some of the testimony was a wash because the defense was able to get the dna expert to say he couldn't find dna didn't mean there wasn't trayvon martin's dna on the holster of the gun. >> i think it is a wash. i can't tell you, lawrence will tell you, how many times you will see, and especially with guns and depending on what the surface is of it. it is very difficult, even when you know somebody has handled tha
what it proves is that george zimmerman, if people understand george zimmerman to be saying trayvon martin grabbed him by the head in a manner that would cause some kind of dna from george zimmerman to get under his fingernails and slammed his head, as he claimed, in to the sidewalk. you might expect some amount of dna from george zimmerman to be under his fingernails but also might not. i have to say it is helpful to the prosecution. it is not a slam dunk or a big ticket item but it is...
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that george zimmerman was lucky. i understand why angela cory would say what comes to her mind, murderer. i can understand that. >> i don't understand that. she's a prosecutor. she's got a certain -- supposed to have some ethics, which obviously she doesn't. supposed to be competent. you heard the juror say they played over and over the reenactment by george zimmerman. jeff, i think she will back me up but for these incompetent prosecutors putting it in there. >> big mistake by the prosecutors to put all those tapes in. they thought, oh, they'll show all these inconsistencies. >> they rewatched that. >> i agreed with her on that. >> that does it for this special edition of "360." join us tomorrow night. we'll have more of my interview with job b-37. also 10:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow, a special edition "race and justice in america," it an "ac360" town hall. you don't want to miss it, tomorrow night 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief.
that george zimmerman was lucky. i understand why angela cory would say what comes to her mind, murderer. i can understand that. >> i don't understand that. she's a prosecutor. she's got a certain -- supposed to have some ethics, which obviously she doesn't. supposed to be competent. you heard the juror say they played over and over the reenactment by george zimmerman. jeff, i think she will back me up but for these incompetent prosecutors putting it in there. >> big mistake by the...
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state of florida versus george zimmerman. we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all foreperson. >> welcome everybody to this special edition of new day. that was the moment we have all been waiting for. the reading of the verdict in the george zimmerman murder trial. jury's decision, you heard it, not guilty. some people expected it. many did not. thanks for joining us. i'm chris cuomo. >> i'm kate baldwin. it's 8:00 in the east on this sunday july 14th. thank you for joining us for "new day." it was inevitable after the verdict came down that one side would be happy and one side would express relief, declare justice -- they would also declare that justice had been done and they would want to move on. listen here. >> your bond will be released. your gps monitor will be cutoff when you exit the courtroom over here and you have no further business with the court. >> thank you, your honor. >> but we knew from the beginning if trayvon martin was allowed to be killed and the man that did it to not go to jail there would be outrage and there is. civil rights
state of florida versus george zimmerman. we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all foreperson. >> welcome everybody to this special edition of new day. that was the moment we have all been waiting for. the reading of the verdict in the george zimmerman murder trial. jury's decision, you heard it, not guilty. some people expected it. many did not. thanks for joining us. i'm chris cuomo. >> i'm kate baldwin. it's 8:00 in the east on this sunday july 14th. thank you...
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that george zimmerman was lucky. i understand why angela cory would say what comes to her mind, murderer. i can understand that. >> i don't understand that. she's a prosecutor. she's got a certain -- supposed to have some ethics, which obviously she doesn't. supposed to be competent. you heard the juror say they played over and over the reenactment by george zimmerman. jeff, i think she will back me up but for these incompetent prosecutors putting it in there. >> big mistake by the prosecutors to put all those tapes in. they thought, oh, they'll show all these inconsistencies. >> they rewatched that. >> i agreed with her on that. >> that does it for this special edition of "360." join us tomorrow night. we'll have more of my interview with job b-37. also 10:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow, a special edition "race and justice in america," it an "ac360" town hall. you don't want to miss it, tomorrow night 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. [ female announcer ] last day, deb. checking out of the hilton shouldn't be a pity party.
that george zimmerman was lucky. i understand why angela cory would say what comes to her mind, murderer. i can understand that. >> i don't understand that. she's a prosecutor. she's got a certain -- supposed to have some ethics, which obviously she doesn't. supposed to be competent. you heard the juror say they played over and over the reenactment by george zimmerman. jeff, i think she will back me up but for these incompetent prosecutors putting it in there. >> big mistake by the...
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. >>> tonight, high drama in the george zimmerman trail. tray vob's mother testifying that the voice here on the 911 audiotape screaming in the background belongs to her dead son. and the attorney for trayvon's family is here to go on the record. >> have you ever heard him while he was growing up, heard him cry or yelling? >> yes. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there just were gun shots. >> just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> screaming or yelling, do you recognize that? >> yes. >> and who do you recognize that to be? >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> you know whose voice that was screaming in the background? >> yes, sir. >> whose voice was that? >> my son, george. >> are you certain of that? >> because he's my son. >> what was the manner of death, sir? >> the manner of death is home. he was killed by another person. he was still alive, and he was killed. he was suffering. >> objection. not a relevant issue. >> just a second. your objection is relevance? overruled. >> there's only one reason to squeeze the trigger at someone's heart and
. >>> tonight, high drama in the george zimmerman trail. tray vob's mother testifying that the voice here on the 911 audiotape screaming in the background belongs to her dead son. and the attorney for trayvon's family is here to go on the record. >> have you ever heard him while he was growing up, heard him cry or yelling? >> yes. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> there just were gun shots. >> just heard gunshots? >> yes. >>...
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. >> what made you think it was george zimmerman's voice? >> because of the evidence that he was the one that had gotten beaten? >> so you think because he was the one who had had cuts, had acontributi abrasio abrasions, he was the one getting hit, calling for help? >> the witness john good saw trayvon on top of george, not necessarily hitting him because it was so dark he couldn't see and he saw blows down toward george. he knew what they were wear ing. >> the one who thought it was trayvon martin's voice on that call, do you know why? >> she didn't think it was trayvon. she just said it could have been trayvon's. >> she couldn't be sure? >> no. she wanted to give everybody absolute out of being guilty. >> but you were sure it was george zimmerman's voice? >> i was sure it was george zimmerman -- >> and everyone else was, except for are the one person? >> i think they were. i don't think there was a doubt that everyone thought it was george's voice. >> i want to ask you about different witnesses. rachel jeantel, the woman who was on the pho
. >> what made you think it was george zimmerman's voice? >> because of the evidence that he was the one that had gotten beaten? >> so you think because he was the one who had had cuts, had acontributi abrasio abrasions, he was the one getting hit, calling for help? >> the witness john good saw trayvon on top of george, not necessarily hitting him because it was so dark he couldn't see and he saw blows down toward george. he knew what they were wear ing. >> the one...
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george zimmerman is not guilty. if you have just a reasonable doubt that he acted in self-defense. >> the defense also played a controversial animated video based on zimmerman's deposition. one that the judge had prevented the defense from entering as evidence during the trial. yesterday prosecutor bernie de la rionda -- >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man-made
george zimmerman is not guilty. if you have just a reasonable doubt that he acted in self-defense. >> the defense also played a controversial animated video based on zimmerman's deposition. one that the judge had prevented the defense from entering as evidence during the trial. yesterday prosecutor bernie de la rionda -- >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man-made
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with which george zimmerman is charged, was committed, and george zimmerman is the person who committed the crime. george zimmerman is not required to present evidence or prove anything. whenever the words reasonable doubt are used, you must consider the following. a reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary, or forced doubt. such a doubt should not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. on the other hand, if after carefully considering, comparing, and weighing all of the evidence, there is not an abiding conviction of guilt or if having a conviction it is one which is not stable but one which waivers and vacillates, then the charge is not proved beyond every reasonable doubt, and you must find george zimmerman not guilty because the doubt is reasonable. it is to the evidence introduced in this trial and to it alone that you are to look for that proof. a reasonable doubt as to the guilt of george zimmerman may arise from the evidence, conflict in the evidence, or lack of the evidence. if you have a reason
with which george zimmerman is charged, was committed, and george zimmerman is the person who committed the crime. george zimmerman is not required to present evidence or prove anything. whenever the words reasonable doubt are used, you must consider the following. a reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary, or forced doubt. such a doubt should not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. on the other hand, if...
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other specifics of the women deciding george zimmerman's fate? juror b-29 is originally from chicago. she's been married for 10 years, she's the only minority on the jury, black or hispanic. she has eight children, only one under 18. juror b-6 is married and has a son who is on attorney. she loves animals. one juror is the daughter of an air force captain. her child is a pet groomer and another who is a university student. and another one is not married. she's a retired real estate agent. and another one has one son, married to a chemical engineer, she likes to watch football, read and travel. >> we have our panel here. susan, let's start with you. what do you read into this? this is your area of expertise. they deliberated yesterday afternoon, decided to go home a little early. they're deliberating all day today. they had a lunch break. a little earlier they sent a note to the judge they want a numbered list of all the evidence. does that tell you anything about where this jury is in its process right now? >> my particular opinion would be that
other specifics of the women deciding george zimmerman's fate? juror b-29 is originally from chicago. she's been married for 10 years, she's the only minority on the jury, black or hispanic. she has eight children, only one under 18. juror b-6 is married and has a son who is on attorney. she loves animals. one juror is the daughter of an air force captain. her child is a pet groomer and another who is a university student. and another one is not married. she's a retired real estate agent. and...
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that george zimmerman was lucky. let me finish, mark. that george zimmerman was lucky. i understand why angela cory would say what comes to her mind, murderer. i can understand that. >> i don't understand that. she's a prosecutor. she's got a certain -- supposed to have some ethics, which obviously she doesn't. supposed to be competent. you heard the juror say they played over and over the reenactment by george zimmerman. jeff, i think she will back me jeff up but for these incompetent prosecutors putting it in there. >> big mistake by the prosecutors to put all those tapes in. they thought, oh, they'll show all these inconsistencies. your interview with the juror. >> they rewatched that. >> i agreed with her on that. >> we have to stop there. thank you. that does it for this special edition of "360." join us tomorrow night. we'll have more of my interview with job b-37. there's parts that have not been played yet. also 10:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow, a special edition "race and justice in america," it an "ac360" town hall. we have lined up a lot of interesting guests. a d
that george zimmerman was lucky. let me finish, mark. that george zimmerman was lucky. i understand why angela cory would say what comes to her mind, murderer. i can understand that. >> i don't understand that. she's a prosecutor. she's got a certain -- supposed to have some ethics, which obviously she doesn't. supposed to be competent. you heard the juror say they played over and over the reenactment by george zimmerman. jeff, i think she will back me jeff up but for these incompetent...
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and family of george zimmerman who say that's george zimmerman's voice screaming for help on the 911 call before the shot rings out. we heard from three family and friends, witnesses who said it was trayvon martin's voice. i have been thinking about this and recalling that there were neighbors who were not associated with either side, james sudaka who said it soundsed like a boy it's voice screaming for help. ultimately those witnesses may be considered more in identi identifying the voice. >> now we have got two to one on the defense side saying that's george zimmerman's voice. but some say why would a grown man who's got a gun be screaming like that. >> the jurors are going to be listening to that tape carefully and listen to when the screaming stops, when the gunshot goes off the screaming stops abruptly. these are fact witnesses but it's almost as if they're giving character witness as well. one testified about george zimmerman tutoring kids. another testified about the training he received with his gun. they're trying to present not only factual testimony but also testimony abou
and family of george zimmerman who say that's george zimmerman's voice screaming for help on the 911 call before the shot rings out. we heard from three family and friends, witnesses who said it was trayvon martin's voice. i have been thinking about this and recalling that there were neighbors who were not associated with either side, james sudaka who said it soundsed like a boy it's voice screaming for help. ultimately those witnesses may be considered more in identi identifying the voice....
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it negates the story of george zimmerman. and what we heard was it certainly seems to be consistent with george zimmerman's claim. >> dr. lawrence koblinski in new york. stay with us for the trial developments of george zimmerman when we come back. meet the 5-passenger ford c-mc-max one. c-max two. that's a super fuel- efficient hybrid for me. and a long range plug-in hybrid for you. now, let's review. introducing the ford c-max hybrid and the ford c-max energi plug-in hybrid. say hi to the c-max hybrids. >>> we continue to follow the trial of george zimmerman. i'm joined once again by msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom, and also by goldie taylor, an msnbc analyst. as we get close to the end of witnesses for the defense, what's your assessment of the day? >> first of all, i think the headline is that george zimmerman is not going to testify. it's something that most of us who have been following the case has been saying from day one. they put on trayvon martin's own father and asked him some tough questions, they put on a lot of
it negates the story of george zimmerman. and what we heard was it certainly seems to be consistent with george zimmerman's claim. >> dr. lawrence koblinski in new york. stay with us for the trial developments of george zimmerman when we come back. meet the 5-passenger ford c-mc-max one. c-max two. that's a super fuel- efficient hybrid for me. and a long range plug-in hybrid for you. now, let's review. introducing the ford c-max hybrid and the ford c-max energi plug-in hybrid. say hi to...
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, state of florida versus george zimmerman, verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all -- >> two words, not guilty. and george zimmerman was told he could go home, that he was a free man, all charges against him were dismissed. the jury is 6 women deliberated for more than 16 hours, friday and most of saturday. they could have found him guilty of second degree murder or manslaughter. they chose to find him not guilty. it's the caper on of a case that has inflamed racial passions across the country and polarized opinion on race and profiling since the killing of 17-year-old trayvon martin in february of last year george zimmerman found not guilty. i want you to listen to debra nelson speak directly to george zimmerman after learning he was cleared of all the charges. >> your bond will be released. your gps monitor will be cut off when you exit the courtroom over here and you have no further business with the court. >> you have no further business with the court. and with those words, george zimmerman shook hands with his legal team, calmly put papers away a
, state of florida versus george zimmerman, verdict, we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all -- >> two words, not guilty. and george zimmerman was told he could go home, that he was a free man, all charges against him were dismissed. the jury is 6 women deliberated for more than 16 hours, friday and most of saturday. they could have found him guilty of second degree murder or manslaughter. they chose to find him not guilty. it's the caper on of a case that has inflamed...
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of george zimmerman? >> i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done. but i think he was a little negligible in doing what he did. >> negligent? >> negligent. sorry. but i think his heart was in the right place. it just went terribly wrong. >> do you think he's guilty of something? >> i thing he's guilty of not using good judgment. when he was in the car and he called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. >> he shouldn't have gotten out -- >> he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. >> do you feel george zimmerman should have been carrying a gun? >> i think he has every right to carry a gun. i think it's everybody's right to carry a gun. as long as they use it the way it's supposed to be used and be responsible in using it. >> george zimmerman obviously did not testify, but his testimony essentially was broug
of george zimmerman? >> i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done. but i think he was a little negligible in doing what he did. >> negligent? >> negligent. sorry. but i think his heart was in the right place. it just went terribly wrong. >> do you think he's guilty of something?...
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with which george zimmerman has charged was committed and george zimmerman is the person who committed the crime. george zimmerman is not required to present evidence or prove anything. whenever the words reasonable doubt are used, you must consider the following. a reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary or forced doubt. such a doubt should not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. on the other hand, if after carefully considering, comparing and weighing all of the evidence there is not an abiding conviction of guilt or if having a conviction, it is one which is not stable, but one which wavers and vase lacillates, then the ce is not proved beyond a reasonable doubt and you must find george zimmerman not guilty because the doubt is reasonable. it is to the evidence introduced in this trial and it alone that you are to look to that proof. a reasonable doubt as to the guilt of george zimmerman may arise from the evidence, conflict in the evidence, or the lack of evidence. if you have a reasonable doubt
with which george zimmerman has charged was committed and george zimmerman is the person who committed the crime. george zimmerman is not required to present evidence or prove anything. whenever the words reasonable doubt are used, you must consider the following. a reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary or forced doubt. such a doubt should not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. on the other hand, if after...
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you must convict george zimmerman if george zimmerman were black in this situation. >> it's interesting. the second film reference in this show. our point of reference. the core is what we see in the movies. anyway, we'll take a quick break. first, a programming note. craig melvin and lisa are hosting special coverage of the george zimmerman trial tonight. make sure to check that out. >>> dave and neil launched warby parker in 2010 to shake up the world of prescription eyewear, starting with the price. what began as a purely online business was an instant success. so why are they focusing their energies on opening retail stores? for more, watch "your business" sunday mornings on msnbc. is like hammering. riding against the wind. uphill. every day. we make money on saddles and tubes. but not on bikes. my margins are thinner than these tires. anything that gives me some breathing room makes a difference. membership helps make the most of your cashflow. i'm nelson gutierrez of strictly bicycles and my money works as hard as i do. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. hu
you must convict george zimmerman if george zimmerman were black in this situation. >> it's interesting. the second film reference in this show. our point of reference. the core is what we see in the movies. anyway, we'll take a quick break. first, a programming note. craig melvin and lisa are hosting special coverage of the george zimmerman trial tonight. make sure to check that out. >>> dave and neil launched warby parker in 2010 to shake up the world of prescription eyewear,...
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zimmerman and exonerated george zimmerman. reale talking about in a way is criminalization. we are talking about school to prison pipeline, zero-tolerance policies which are the reason is that of being in a restorative justice program in high school that trayvon martin was in the dead of night going to a store in orlando instead of being at his high school in miami. we are going to ask our commerce people to address stand your ground, which may not have had as much influence on this but creates an open season for young people of color. we're going to address the law enforcement who uses racial profiling to create a dragnet over our communities and strike fear in our communities. we're going to call on our congress people to come back to work because though george zimmerman was found guilty, florida is very guilty. >> we're going to take a break and then come back and also going to be joined by lisa graves of the center for media and democracy, who for the last year has been investigating alec . we're going to talk about the st
zimmerman and exonerated george zimmerman. reale talking about in a way is criminalization. we are talking about school to prison pipeline, zero-tolerance policies which are the reason is that of being in a restorative justice program in high school that trayvon martin was in the dead of night going to a store in orlando instead of being at his high school in miami. we are going to ask our commerce people to address stand your ground, which may not have had as much influence on this but creates...
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punched george zimmerman in the face. zimmerman thinking that he was dealing with a criminal, then acted in self defense to defend himself from what he thought was a deadly threat. there was, you know, there was fault on both sides but unfortunately, a 17-year-old is dead, and why? because there was a gun in the picture. what i take away from last night. every african-american that i have spoken to, sees their own children in trayvon martin. and says is, in america today, do we have to worry when our kid goes out that he will be shot? because someone thinks he is a burglar? and i know, if this case, i tried cases like this in new york, as a prosecutor. and we used to call it, if you bring a gun to a fight and you kill somebody, you will get convictimed of manslaughter, and there will not ab prosecutor holding a press conference as they did earlier this evening saying we support the right to bare arms. this is not about the right to bare arms. you never hear that in new york then talking about that. they do not believe in
punched george zimmerman in the face. zimmerman thinking that he was dealing with a criminal, then acted in self defense to defend himself from what he thought was a deadly threat. there was, you know, there was fault on both sides but unfortunately, a 17-year-old is dead, and why? because there was a gun in the picture. what i take away from last night. every african-american that i have spoken to, sees their own children in trayvon martin. and says is, in america today, do we have to worry...
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>> george zimmerman's friend, mark osterman testified that george zimmerman told him that trayvon martin straddled zimmerman by his arm pits. de la rionda used a mannequin, once again, using the mannequin to show the jury once again what it would look like. >> he is showing the arm pits, how did he get the gun out? arm pits, how does he get the gun out? >> a few months after the incident, george zimmerman told sean hannity that he had no regrets about what happened that night. but today, he must have had regrets about talking to sean hannity. >> i feel like it was all god's plan, and for me to second guess it or judge it. >> is there anything you might do differently in retrospect, after time has passed? >> no, sir. >> i don't know whether i need to comment about that. it speaks for itself. >> joining me now, msnbc legal analyst, lisa bloom, former criminal prosecutor, faith jenkins and former prosecutor marcia clark, who is also the author of the new novel, "killer ambition." they want to lodge at least one central question at least in the jury's mind that leads to the answer of guilty.
>> george zimmerman's friend, mark osterman testified that george zimmerman told him that trayvon martin straddled zimmerman by his arm pits. de la rionda used a mannequin, once again, using the mannequin to show the jury once again what it would look like. >> he is showing the arm pits, how did he get the gun out? arm pits, how does he get the gun out? >> a few months after the incident, george zimmerman told sean hannity that he had no regrets about what happened that night....
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george zimmerman. but they did say they are going to seek justice. let's not forget that. they told you they were going to seek justice. you have the five phone calls and now six phone calls. i also put into evidence, it's here, this whole pile of reports, police reports of what other things happened in the past year that retreat view area. it's there. i could have brought in people like the state did but we just agreed they would go into evidence. they will show. a lot of burglaries, the home invasion miss burdalong suffered through. in that community there was a rash of people burglarizing homes. a lot of people arrested for it. the only people found and arrested were young black males. i'm going to talk about race. the reason i talk about that now. you talk about assumptions and what you bring inyour world when you come into our world. certainly you heard on the non-emergency call how george acted when he saw trayvon martin. we'll get to that in due time. so what else do they have about george zimme
george zimmerman. but they did say they are going to seek justice. let's not forget that. they told you they were going to seek justice. you have the five phone calls and now six phone calls. i also put into evidence, it's here, this whole pile of reports, police reports of what other things happened in the past year that retreat view area. it's there. i could have brought in people like the state did but we just agreed they would go into evidence. they will show. a lot of burglaries, the home...
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that it was george zimmerman? >> yes. >> so you would have voted not guilty? >> correct. >> what did you think of b-37, the juror who spoke out? did you see that interview? >> i did, yeah. i was surprised that anybody could come out that quickly and talk about this. i know that when i got done, and was asked about what i thought, i didn't know where to start, i didn't even know what to say. so i was a little surprised that she came out as quickly as she did. i'm not surprised that it was her that came out. you know, i just think that was a little bit too soon. >> and what's your reaction to all the protests, demonstrations and the talk of a civil rights complaint now? >> i just don't understand the civil rights complaint. i didn't see the evidence there in the courtroom that would make anybody believe that there was a civil rights case for this. the protests, the people are going to be angry no matter what the verdict was. and there's nothing we can do about that. i just hope that they're peaceful. and that they j
that it was george zimmerman? >> yes. >> so you would have voted not guilty? >> correct. >> what did you think of b-37, the juror who spoke out? did you see that interview? >> i did, yeah. i was surprised that anybody could come out that quickly and talk about this. i know that when i got done, and was asked about what i thought, i didn't know where to start, i didn't even know what to say. so i was a little surprised that she came out as quickly as she did. i'm...
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>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it, until later, when i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny, but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor, and i didn't know his name. >> the doctor the defense called? >> yes. >> what about him? >> i thought he was awe inspiring. the experiences that he had had over in the war, and i just never thought of anybody that could recognize somebody's voice yelling, in like a terrible terror voice, when he was just previously a half hour ago playing cards with him. >> that is george zimmerman. >> a lot of analysts who were watching the trial felt that the defense attorneys, mark o'mara and don west were able to turn prosecution witnesses to their advantage. chris advisory serino, for instance, the lead investigator, did he make an impression on you? >> chris serino did, but to me, he was jus
>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it, until later, when i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny, but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor, and i didn't know his name. >> the doctor the defense called? >> yes. >>...
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self-defense murder, the george zimmerman trial at 10:00. piers morgan starts right now. >>> this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. right now the six women deciding the fate of george zimmerman are back in the hotel and we can only imagine what is going through their minds. that he deliberated for three hours and 33 minutes. the jury will return at 9:00 a.m. to begin deliberating again for the trial that is gripping america. will they find george zimmerman guilty or not guilty of murdering trayvon martin and could they return for a manslaughter conviction or acquit him of all charges? they asked for 200 exhibits and have testimony to pour over. a fierily closing argument from the defense and an equally rebuttal from the prosecution. >> do we think he might have acted in self-defense? not convinced, not a concern, that he may just have act in self-defense? if you reach that conclusion, you get to stop. you really do. why? because self-defense is a defense to everything. >> this isn't a c
self-defense murder, the george zimmerman trial at 10:00. piers morgan starts right now. >>> this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. right now the six women deciding the fate of george zimmerman are back in the hotel and we can only imagine what is going through their minds. that he deliberated for three hours and 33 minutes. the jury will return at 9:00 a.m. to begin deliberating again for the trial that is gripping...
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a self-described best friend of george zimmerman. he wrote an actual book titled, "defending our friend, the most hated man in america." . he's the person that spent all of this time recounting what happened in those fateful moments. he's on the stand recounting for us what happened. there are discrepancies. when we come back after the break what points were scored, what points were lost. why that particular witness matter and maybe most importantly what's coming next. we're back in a moment. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >>> welcome back. zimmerman on trial is the official name of the coverage and the reality is it's george zimmerman and it's second-degree. the victim in this case is
a self-described best friend of george zimmerman. he wrote an actual book titled, "defending our friend, the most hated man in america." . he's the person that spent all of this time recounting what happened in those fateful moments. he's on the stand recounting for us what happened. there are discrepancies. when we come back after the break what points were scored, what points were lost. why that particular witness matter and maybe most importantly what's coming next. we're back in a...
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what it proves is that if george zimmerman, if people understand george zimmerman to have been saying that trayvon martin grabbed him by the head in a manner that would cause some kind of dna from george zimmerman to get under his fingernails and slammed his head into the sidewalk, you might expect some amount of dna from george zimmerman to be under his fingernails. but it also might not. so i have to say it's helpful to the prosecution. it's not a slam dunk. it's not a big ticket item, but it is something to add to the evidence that the prosecution has presented to show that the contact between trayvon martin and george zimmerman may not be as zimmerman described. >> mark geragos, do you think some of this testimony was ultimately a wash? because the defense was able to get the dna expert to basically say just the fact that he couldn't find dna doesn't mean that there wasn't trayvon martin's dna on the holster or the gun. >> i do think it's a wash. i can't tell you how many times you will see, especially with guns and depending on what the kind of surface is of it, it's very difficu
what it proves is that if george zimmerman, if people understand george zimmerman to have been saying that trayvon martin grabbed him by the head in a manner that would cause some kind of dna from george zimmerman to get under his fingernails and slammed his head into the sidewalk, you might expect some amount of dna from george zimmerman to be under his fingernails. but it also might not. so i have to say it's helpful to the prosecution. it's not a slam dunk. it's not a big ticket item, but it...
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george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> reporter: saying afterwards -- >> i still think the joke is funny. i'm sorry about that. i'm sorry i didn't tell it better. but there was an important reason for it. there needed to be a disconnect. >> reporter: the prosecution, john guy, who played straight man to the more animated bernie de la rionda. >> how does he get the gun out? >> reporter: and throughout the trial, implored the jury to think with their hearts. >> i'm asking you to use your common sense, use your heart, use what you know is real and use what you heard and what the law is in the case. >> reporter: overnight speaking from his heart. >> we have from the beginning just prayed for the truth to come out and for peace to be the result, and that continues to be our prayers. and we believe they have been answered. >> reporter: but not those of trayvon martin's parents who said through their attorney their hearts were broken, but urging calm. >> this is a very trying time for their
george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> reporter: saying afterwards -- >> i still think the joke is funny. i'm sorry about that. i'm sorry i didn't tell it better. but there was an important reason for it. there needed to be a disconnect. >> reporter: the prosecution, john guy, who played straight man to the more animated bernie de la rionda. >> how does he get the gun out? >> reporter: and throughout the trial, implored the...
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geraldo rivera reporting on the verdict of george zimmerman. the tragic florida youngster, that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. it was one of those awful tragedies in life, but not all tragedies are crimes. that is what happened here. they over charged george zimmerman, i believe, largely because of outside political pressure. political pressure from civil rights icons. political pressure, indeed from the white house itself. you recall the president of the united states suggesting that if he had a son, his son would look like trayvon martin. it is one of those awful confluences of politics and justice, and they do not mix. this is a case that the original officers remember, ladies and gentlemen, the original officers and the local prosecutor, decided not to bring against george zimmerman, remember the circumstances. here is george zimmerman the neighborhood watch captain in a beleigerred community, his retreat there, that had been burglarized and you know, robbed before by youngsters, who looked a lot like trayvon martin di
geraldo rivera reporting on the verdict of george zimmerman. the tragic florida youngster, that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. it was one of those awful tragedies in life, but not all tragedies are crimes. that is what happened here. they over charged george zimmerman, i believe, largely because of outside political pressure. political pressure from civil rights icons. political pressure, indeed from the white house itself. you recall the president of the united states...
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know more. >>> state of florida versus george zimmerman verdict we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible obviously for the death of this unarmed youngster but did not commit is a crime.
know more. >>> state of florida versus george zimmerman verdict we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all, foreperson. >> geraldo: george zimmerman dramatically but not unexpectedly found not guilty. not innocent. he wasn't found innocent. he was found not guilty. not guilt in i am sure when the jurors finally speak and they have told us they are not in the mood to speak tonight will tell us i think that they believe that george zimmerman was responsible...
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it's made by george zimmerman himself. now, he consults with his attorneys, they give him advice but george zimmerman is ultimately the one who makes that decision and we have seen, especially in the early days of this investigation, that he is independent minded and has a tendency to sometimes make decisions that perhaps those around him were not counselling him to do, specifically when he set up web pages to collect some money and there was some issues about money going back and forth within the family. so the attorney, mark o'mara, has said that from the beginning no decision has been made about whether george zimmerman will take the stand in his own defense. perhaps when he comes to the podium and talks to us and answers some questions, perhaps one of those questions will be just that and we'll hear what the answer is. it may be that still no decision has been made. >> kerry, what is your sense of folks down there in florida? do you think george zimmerman would take the stand? because, of course, he is saying it was al
it's made by george zimmerman himself. now, he consults with his attorneys, they give him advice but george zimmerman is ultimately the one who makes that decision and we have seen, especially in the early days of this investigation, that he is independent minded and has a tendency to sometimes make decisions that perhaps those around him were not counselling him to do, specifically when he set up web pages to collect some money and there was some issues about money going back and forth within...
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what it proves is that if george zimmerman, if people understand that george zimmerman that trayvon martin grabbed him by the head in a manner that might have caused george zimmerman's dna to get under his nails and slammed his head into the sidewalk you might expect some amount of dna to be under his fingernails, but it also might not. so i have to say, it's helpful to the prosecution and it's not a slam dunk and not a big ticket item and it is something to add to the evidence flat prosecution has presented to show that the contact might not be as zimmerman described. >> mike geragos, do you think this was ultimately a wash? the defense was able to get the dna expert to basically say just the fact that he couldn't find dna didn't mean there wasn't trayvon martin's dna on the holster and the gun? >> i do think it's a wash. i can't tell you, lawrence will tell you how many times you will see and especially with guns and depending on what with the kind of surface is of it . it's very difficult to know when someone handles that gun to pick up the dna off of it or the fingerprints off of it or
what it proves is that if george zimmerman, if people understand that george zimmerman that trayvon martin grabbed him by the head in a manner that might have caused george zimmerman's dna to get under his nails and slammed his head into the sidewalk you might expect some amount of dna to be under his fingernails, but it also might not. so i have to say, it's helpful to the prosecution and it's not a slam dunk and not a big ticket item and it is something to add to the evidence flat prosecution...
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george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right. good. you're on the jury. nothing? that's funny. >> a lot of people didn't find it funny, and defense attorney don west ended up apologizing later. other key moments, testimony from neighbors who witnessed part of the fight and called 911. we heard screaming in the background and the gunshot that ended trayvon martin's life. >> i can't see him. i don't want to go out there. i don't know what's going on. >> so you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> all right. what is your -- [ gunshot ] >> there's gunshots. >> there's two guys in backyard with flashlights. >> okay. >> and there's a black guy down. it looks like he's been shot and he's dead. >> okay. >> he's laying and there's multiple people calling right now i'm thinking. >> and, of course, the star witness for the prosecution, rachel jeantel, trayvon martin's friend, who was defiant and later criticized for her attitude in court. we want to warn you, some of the language you're about to hear may be offensive. >> describe iing the person is t made you think it was rac
george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right. good. you're on the jury. nothing? that's funny. >> a lot of people didn't find it funny, and defense attorney don west ended up apologizing later. other key moments, testimony from neighbors who witnessed part of the fight and called 911. we heard screaming in the background and the gunshot that ended trayvon martin's life. >> i can't see him. i don't want to go out there. i don't know what's going on. >> so you think he's...
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did you truly believe that george zimmerman was in danger? >> i think those death threats came from a very extreme periphery. so was he in active fear? since we don't know where that periphery lives or when they're going to show nup in sanford or orlando, you have to take those threats for real. i don't know if it was his mother taking threats on an internet chatroom, or if it was someone down the street finding out where he lives. so death threats you have to take seriously, and he does, because he's been in hiding for six months. >> what about you? you have a wife, you have other people working on your staff. were you afraid for them? >> i'm concerned. i think i've handled myself in this case in a way that evidences sensitivities that should be there for the martin family and the events that have happened. but again, there is that periphery out there who just may decide they don't like the fact that i helped george zimmerman get acquitted. i don't know how you live any other way than to just continue living your life with it, because i'm no
did you truly believe that george zimmerman was in danger? >> i think those death threats came from a very extreme periphery. so was he in active fear? since we don't know where that periphery lives or when they're going to show nup in sanford or orlando, you have to take those threats for real. i don't know if it was his mother taking threats on an internet chatroom, or if it was someone down the street finding out where he lives. so death threats you have to take seriously, and he does,...
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self-defense murder, the george zimmerman trial at 10:00. piers morgan starts right now. >>> this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. right now the six women deciding the fate of george zimmerman are back in the hotel and we can only imagine what is going through their minds. that he deliberated for three hours and 33 minutes. the jury will return at 9:00 a.m. to begin deliberating again for the trial that is gripping america. will they find george zimmerman guilty or not guilty of murdering trayvon martin and could they return for a manslaughter conviction or acquit him of all charges? they asked for 200 exhibits and have testimony to pour over. a fierily closing argument from the defense and an equally re t rebuttal from the prosecution. >> do we think he might have abo acted in self-defense? not convinced, not a concern, that he may just have act in self-defense? if you reach that conclusion, you get to stop. you really do. why? because self-defense is a defense to everything. >> this
self-defense murder, the george zimmerman trial at 10:00. piers morgan starts right now. >>> this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. right now the six women deciding the fate of george zimmerman are back in the hotel and we can only imagine what is going through their minds. that he deliberated for three hours and 33 minutes. the jury will return at 9:00 a.m. to begin deliberating again for the trial that is gripping...
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it's the george zimmerman trial. right now we're hearing from a new witness, a neighbor of zimmerman's whose home was broken into while she was inside with her young child. that incident is why george zimmerman told police he decided to start the neighborhood watch. let's listen. >> -- the person or persons involved had not been caught, right? >> right. >> and you discussed that it was your belief -- i say yours collectively, you and him -- that that person responsible lived in retreat twin lakes, right? >> it was confirmed by the police. >> that they lived inside. >> yes. >> and you discussed that with the defendant. >> and other neighbors. >> and you discussed that person lived in retreat at twin lakes near the back gate, right? >> yes. >> and then it's your understanding that at some point that person was arrested. >> yes. >> and released prior to february of 2012. >> correct. >> you -- have you watched the proceedings in this trial? >> briefly. >> what parts did you watch? >> i believe i saw his uncle testify. >>
it's the george zimmerman trial. right now we're hearing from a new witness, a neighbor of zimmerman's whose home was broken into while she was inside with her young child. that incident is why george zimmerman told police he decided to start the neighborhood watch. let's listen. >> -- the person or persons involved had not been caught, right? >> right. >> and you discussed that it was your belief -- i say yours collectively, you and him -- that that person responsible lived...
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>> much more on the george zimmerman trial is ahead. defense put enough reasonable doubt in the jurors' heads? could the jury convict george zimmerman on a manslaughter charge instead of second degree murder? the panel will talk about that coming up next. american success" "that starts with one of the world's most advanced distribution systems," "and one of the most efficient trucking networks," "with safe, experienced drivers." "we work directly...
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a blockbuster day in the george zimmerman trial. in a moment, i'll speak to mark o'mara, a day in which witness after witness testified george zimmerman is the man heard screaming on the tape, not trayvon martin. >> you said you heard the tape several times, is that mainly listening to it on tv? >> yes. >> were you able to identify mr. zimmerman's voice during the first time you listened to it? yes, my immediate reaction to it was, that is george's voice. >> that's georgy. >> it's george zimmerman, and i wish to god i did not have the ability to recognize that. >> i pushed away from the table and shook my head and said, i can't tell. >> and the judge rules the jury will hear about trayvon martin's alleged pot use. joining us to talk about a busy day in court, mark o'mara. mark, busy day. pretty important day in many ways. how significant is this late breaking decision to allow trayvon martin's toxicology report including his cannibis use to be made available to the court? >> good evening, piers, it's good to chat with you again. we
a blockbuster day in the george zimmerman trial. in a moment, i'll speak to mark o'mara, a day in which witness after witness testified george zimmerman is the man heard screaming on the tape, not trayvon martin. >> you said you heard the tape several times, is that mainly listening to it on tv? >> yes. >> were you able to identify mr. zimmerman's voice during the first time you listened to it? yes, my immediate reaction to it was, that is george's voice. >> that's...
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george zimmerman. >> what does that tell you? >> that tells me there are a lot of inconsistencies with the story. we heard him say that today. we also have to say we can't consider detective serino's testimony in a vacuum, we have to compare it by what other witnesses say to undiscover the inconsistencies. >> the fact that detective serino himself did not think that a first degree murder charge was warranted, as he testified on the stand, that zimmerman was pretty credible in the things he said. that his story actually held up? >> no, not at all because as detective serino said he was in the initial stages of his investigation. and bernie de la rhonda pointed out that detective serino has not pointed out all the evidence. >> trayvon martin's parents are in the courtroom today. how are they doing thus far? are they confident with the prosecution's case thus far? >> they're confident with the prosecution's case. an emotionally toiling time for them, to have to hear their child scream for help. they're in
george zimmerman. >> what does that tell you? >> that tells me there are a lot of inconsistencies with the story. we heard him say that today. we also have to say we can't consider detective serino's testimony in a vacuum, we have to compare it by what other witnesses say to undiscover the inconsistencies. >> the fact that detective serino himself did not think that a first degree murder charge was warranted, as he testified on the stand, that zimmerman was pretty credible in...