goodwin's mother is already grieving for an older son who was murdered. she's hopeful she will not lose tony to life in prison. >> he's a great young man and strong young man. right now he's in a lot of pain and lot of stress and confusion. he's hurting right now about his brother. tomorrow is his birthday, jerry's birthday. >> your son who was murdered? >> yes. >> goodwin's attorneys acknowledge that he shot the boy who was killed by his wounds. the prosecutors would only accept the murder plea. in ohio the murder conviction requires precalculation but intent to murder and defense set out to prove it did not exist. they say two years earlier, when goodwin unexpectedly saw him, he shot him, not to murder but stop him from fleeing. he was struck in the buttock and fell to the ground. despite having a loaded gun, he then only punched grim in the face in order to break his jaw. they can only hope the jury will have understood the importance of this distinction. >> ladies and gentlemen of the jury, it's my understanding that you have reached a verdict, is tha

>> goodwin: it's a mystery in a certain sense, because he is... at one level, he's extremely confident. i think from the time he was young, he knew that he was, in some sense, a genius. but when he was young, he was so worried that opportunities would never allow him to exercise his talents. and he was hugely ambitious. he wanted to be remembered for having done something that would stand the test of time. so, boy, has that been achieved- - saving the union, ending slavery and living forever in history. pretty good. >> spielberg: and action. >> stahl: spielberg went to great lengths to make his movie look as historically accurate as possible. here's first lady mary todd lincoln; here's sally field, who put on 25 pounds to play the part. this is abolitionist thaddeus stevens, and this is tommy lee jones in the role. and here's secretary of war edwin stanton, played by bruce mcgill. and rooms in the white house were recreated. spielberg went out and found first editions of books lincoln read. i heard the same rug by the same... i mean, it looked the

and of course, goodwin had heard it a thousand times. and johnson's like, "i want that in the speech." >> my first job after college was as a teacher in cotulla, texas, in a small mexican-american school. few of them could speak english, and i couldn't speak much spanish. my students were poor and they often came to class without breakfast, hungry. and they knew even in their youth the pain of prejudice. they never seemed to know why people disliked them. but they knew it was so, because i saw it in their eyes. i never thought then, in 1928, that i would be standing here in 1965. it never even occurred to me in my fondest dreams that i might have the chance to help the sons and daughters of those students and to help people like them all over this country. >> you say that the voting rights act never would have existed without the help of two generations of courageous republican legislators. i agree with that because i worked with many of them when i was a young man working on policy for president johnson. one of them was senator everett

and of course, goodwin had heard it a thousand times. and johnson's like, "i want that in the speech." >> my first job after college was as a teacher in cotulla, texas, in a small mexican-american school. few of them could speak english, and i couldn't speak much spanish. my students were poor and they often came to class without breakfast, hungry. and they knew even in their youth the pain of prejudice. they never seemed to know why people disliked them. but they knew it was so, because i saw it in their eyes. i never thought then, in 1928, that i would be standing here in 1965. it never even occurred to me in my fondest d dams that i might have the chance to help the sons and daughters of those students and to help people like them all over this counun >> you say that the voting rights act never would have existed without the help of two generations of courageous republican legislators. i agree with that because i worked with many of them when i was a young man working on policy for president johnson. one of them was senator everett di

and of course, goodwin had heard it a thousand times. and johnson's like, "i want that in the speech." >> my first job after college was as a teacher in cotulla, texas, in a small mexican-american school. few of them could speak english, and i couldn't speak much spanish. my students were poor and they often came to class without breakfast, hungry. and they knew even in their youth the pain of prejudice. they never seemed to know why people disliked them. but they knew it was so, because i saw it in their eyes. i never thought then, in 1928, that i would be standing here in 1965. it never even occurred to me in my fondest dreams that i might have the chance to help the sons and daughters of those students and to help people like them all over this country. >> you say that the voting rights act never would have existed without the help of two generations of courageous republican legislators. i agree with that because i worked wh many of them when i was a young man working on policy for president johnson. one of them was senator everett di

. >> i think the doris kearns goodwin took -- book is very telling. it is wonderfully documented. i come away from it feeling like they were ships passing in the night. there would be times when he would reach out to her, and she was unavailable to him, and times when she would reach out to him, and he was unavailable to her. it was a complicated relationship, to put it mildly. politically, i agree completely. i think there are times when she was out there beyond where he wanted her to be, but she had passionate views. beyond her advocacy, she also very much -- he was very clear on this -- served as his eyes and ears. she could be out there, and he could not. that was a very useful role. >> when you talk about women in the white house, sometimes, you're talking about other women the doris kearns goodwin book -- you say, well the president and unburden himself to their spouses and share secrets -- not all secrets apparently. any observations on that? >> on the other woman? she should go away. [laughter] >> i was going to add one thing on eleanor and franklin when it comes to the ot

. >> oh, john goodwin. >> jimmy: john goodwin. >> oh, yeah. my old buddy. my oldest friend. we play a lot of his tunes, you know, we go back to the fourth grade. >> jimmy: who else can you school me on? what are you listening to? >> i'm doing some waits, tom waits. you know. isn't he cool? >> jimmy: i love tom waits. >> you do tom waits, because i love when you do -- you know, young and all those guys. >> jimmy: i wish i can do like, he's like -- [ drumming ] [ imitating waits ] [ light laughter ] like, he kind of conway twitty -- like, bedtime stories. you know what i'm saying, like -- >> of course. [ imitating waits ] ♪ rock-a-bye baby on the tree top ♪ all right, dad, dad, i'm sleeping. i'm sleeping. [ light laughter ] but i love me some tom waits. i wanna do a bit with him so bad. >> oh, man. very good. >> jimmy: oh, thank you. but i love him so much. oh, god, i love tom waits. >> and you did crosby, right? >> jimmy: yeah, we -- crosby, stills and nash? >> yeah, yeah. >> jimmy: we had crosby, stills and nash come on and we sang a slow version of "party in the usa." i

her feelings about that with a couple of exceptions, she does explain to doris kearns goodwin how she felt about it and she did regret it for the rest of her life and was angry at her husband because of it. then i came upon a little interview that she did with felicia rocha and who was at one time married to fdr junior and she knew rose kennedy and the kennedy family. in the early 70's felicia went to palm beach and stayed with rose and interviewed her with a book she was doing called tours and dour jurors about great matriarchs in america. she asks, felicia asked rose about rosemary and said you don't talk very much about her and rose burst into tears and became choked up. this would have been 30 years after the procedure at which point than rosemary did have to be institutionalize because the lobotomy went terribly wrong. now we should say two things. one is that this was thought to be in 1941 a procedure that worked to try to minimize anxiety and depression which rosemary also suffered from sojo who is always up on the latest medical procedures -- >> host: they still do that. >> gu

. >> guest: so that thwarted her plan, and she expressed to doris kearns goodwin late in life that that was one of the saddest moments of her life, when she found that out, and she regretted it for the rest of her life. >> host: this was a woman who did not express much regret about anything. >> guest: she did not. at first i was distracted by the goblet of water in the forefront, and then i decided this is the perfect metaphor for rose kennedy because, if folks will notice, it's exactly half full with water, and that was -- >> host: i didn't think of that. >> guest: -- viewed life. she was the eternal optimist. that didn't mean she didn't have sad moments, but generally speaking, she tried to keep this optimistic, upbeat approach to the life and tried to have her children do that as well. in addition to not being able to go to wellesley, her father -- to add insult to injury -- sent her away to a convent abroad -- >> host: a con vent. >> guest: a con vent. [laughter] not that she was going to become a nun because she had fallen in love with her future husband, joe kennedy, as teenagers

they were uniting fred goodwin and watching the world burn. >> thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, on friday the town center will fall silent as the people lead the nation in paying respect to a man who is a terrifically murdered on the streets or will the prime minister join with me in paying tribute to all his family and friends and his comrades for the dignified response to their laws? and thank all those in the church and armed forces, the police and public services who have been engaged in the planning and preparation of a funeral? >> here, here. >> right honorable friend speaks for the whole country and the whole house when he talks about this issue. we should all pay tribute to him for his service to our country. i heard about it first and win in afghanistan and meeting other members of his regiment. we should also paid tribute to sammy come to all the pain and difficulty they are going through and i'm sure that it will be a very fitting service, every moving service on friday and whole country will be morning with of them. >> i have a jcb factor in my constituency

they were knighting fred goodwin and watching while rome burned. >> on friday the town centre of bury will fall silent as the people of bury lead the nation in paying respects to drummer lee rigby, who was so horrifically murdered on the streets of woolwich. will the prime minister join me in paying tribute to all his family and friends and his comrades in the fusiliers for their calm and dignified response to their loss, and thank all those in the church, our armed forces, the police and public services who have been engaged in the planning and preparation for the funeral? >> my honorable friend speaks for the whole country and the whole house when he talks about this issue. we should all pay tribute to drummer lee rigby for his service to our country. i heard about it at first hand when in afghanistan meeting other members of his regiment. we should also pay tribute to his family for all the pain and difficulty they are going through, and i am sure it will be a very fitting and moving service on friday and the whole country will be mourning with them. >> i have a jcb factory in my c

they were knighting fred goodwin and watching while rome burned. mr. david nuttall: on friday the town centre of bury will fall silent as the people of bury lead the nation in paying respects to drummer lee rigby, who was so horrifically murdered on the streets of woolwich. will the prime minister join me in paying tribute to all his family and friends and his comrades in the fusiliers for their calm and dignified response to their loss, and thank all those in the church, our armed forces, the police and public services who have been engaged in the planning and preparation for the funeral? created a calm and dignified response to their loss. the police and public services have been engaged in the demonstrations at the funeral. my honorable friend speak for the whole country and the whole house when he speaks about these issues. we should all pay tribute for his service to the country. i heard about it. i'm sure it will be a fitting service. the whole country will be morning with them.

president's political capitol both domestically and overseas the pulitzer prize-winning columnist micel goodwin. also, the hunt for in as a leaker edwards will -- snowdon. fox news national security ambassador john bolton weighing in on the ongoing discussions over edward snowden and what it means for our relationship with both russia and china. and things that the embattled intern revenue service going from bad to worse, a second irs official refusing to answer the questions by congress, and this time over allegations that he awarded half a billion dollars of contracts to a body. house oversight committee member congressman joins us to tell us what is going to be done next to fix the irs. the obama administration today urging russia to expel edward snowden, returning to this country to face espionage charges. our next guest says the russian prime minister is essentially coming his nose at us. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox business a security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. fox news contributor. let me for start with you. i mean,e he is having a lot of fun righ

president's political capitol both domestically and overseas the pulitzer prize-winning columnist michael goodwin. also, the hunt for in as a leaker edwards will -- snowdon. fox news national security ambassador john bolton weighing in on the ongoing discussions over edward snowden and what it means for our relationship with both russia and china. and things that the embattled internal revenue service going from bad to worse, a second irs official refusing to answer the questions by congress, and this time over allegations that he awarded half a billion dollars of contracts to a body. house oversight committee member congressman joins us to tell us what is going to be done next to fix the irs. the obama administration today urging russia to expel edward snowden, returning to this country to face espionage charges. our next guest says the russian prime minister is essentially coming his nose at us. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox business a security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. fox news contributor. let me for start with you. i mean, it looks like he is having a

president's political capitol both domestically and overseas the pulitzer prize-winning columnist michael goodwin. also, the hunt for in as a leaker eards will -- snowdon. fox news national security ambassador john bolton weighing in on the ongoing discussions over edward snowden and what it means for our relationship with both russia and china. and thingshat the embattled internal revenue service going from bad to worse, a second irs official refusing to answer the questions by congress, and this time over allegations that he awarded half a billion dollars of contracts to a body. house oversight committee member congressman joins us to tell us what is going to be done next to fix the irs. the obama administration today urging russia to expel edward snowden, returning to this country to face espionage chges. our next guest says the russian prime minister is essentially coming his nose at us. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox business a security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. fox news contributor. let me for start with you. i mean, it looks like he is having a lot of

president's political capitol both domestically and overseas the pulitzer prize-winning columnist michael goodwin. also, the hunt for in as a aker edwards will -- snowdon. fox news national security ambassador john bolton weighing in on the ongoing discussions over edward snowden and what it means for our relationship with both russia and china. and things that the embattled internal revenue service going from bad to worse, a second irs official refusing to answer the questions by congress, and thi time over allegations that he awarded half a billion dollars of contracts to a body. house oversight committee member congressman joins us to tell us what is going to beone next to fix the irs. the obama administration today urging russia to expel edward snowden, returning to this country to face espionage charges. ou next guest says the russian prime minister is essentially coming his nose at us. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox business a security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. fox news contribor. let me for start with y. i mean, it looks like he is having a lot of fun

president's political capitol both domestically and overseas the pulitzer prize-winning columnist michael goodwin. also, the hunt for in as a aker edwards will -- snowdon. fox news national security ambassador john bolton weighing in on the ongoi discussions over edward snowden and what it means for o relationship with both russia and china. and things that the embattled internal revenue service going from bad to worse, a second irs official refusing to answer the questions by congress, and this time over allegations that he awarded half a billion dollars of contracts to a body. house oversight committee member congressma joins us to tell us what is going to be done next to fix the irs. the obama administration today urging russia to expel edward snowden, returning to this country to face espionage charges. our next guest says the russian prime minister is essentially coming his nose at us. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox business a security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. fox news contributor. let me for start with you. i mean, it looks like he is having a lot of

president's political capitol both domestically and overseas the pulitzer prize-winning columnist michael goodwin. also, the hunt for in as a leaker edwards will -- snowdon. fox news national security ambassador john bolton weighing in on the ongoing discussions over edward snowden and what it means for our relationship with both russia and cna. and things that the embattled internal revenue service going from bad to worse, a second irs official refusing to answer the questions by congress, and this time over allegations that he awarded half a billion dollars of contracts to a body. house oversight committee member congressman joins us to tell us what is going to be done next to fix the irs. the obama administration today urging russia to expel edward snowden, returning to this country to face espionage charges. our next guest says the rsian prime minister is essentially coming his nose at us. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox business a serity analyst, former ambassador to the unite nations. fox news contributor. let me for start with you. i mean, it looks like he is having a lot of

goodwin wrote "team of rivals," the boom that the movie is based on. >> the battle would be special in the south but the fact that he wrote and delivered that extraordinary address. that's what gives this place meaning. >> reporter: goodwin says the most striking thing about this battlefield is that so much carnage here happened 150 years ago and today it is just extraordinarily tranquil. charlie, norah, and gayle? >> it's amazing. a lot of books coming out on the 150th anniversary and a look at the mistakes general lee made including not being surprised as to where the union soldiers were. and therefore you had that kind of carnage that you saw and it turned the nature of the war. >> and 150 year is ago people still go out and re-enact that. that's amazing. >>> when we come back "under the dome," by stephen king. anthony mason talks with my cousin steve next on "cbs this morning" >>> if you watched last week's premiere of "under the dome," you were not alone. 17 million viewers saw the first installment of the describe five show based on stephen king's novel. anthony mason wroegt with

please welcome dorris kerns goodwin. >> there can be no better transition been my belief that history at its best is about telling stories. stories about people and events in the past to create the contours of the present. we study the lives of them in hopes that we can learn from their struggles and triumphs. i have spent a lifetime telling stories of our presidents waking up with them in the morning, thinking about them when i go to bed at night. it may seem in our profession to spend days and nights with dead presidents, but i wouldn't change it for anything in the world. each time i embark on a new subject come i am catapulted back into a different era and absorbed in the daily lives of a different set of characters in reading the diaries and letters of a row following a personalized for the people that they loved and lost in the events that stoke their ambitions. my only fear is that in the afterlife there will be a panel of all the presidents i studied and everyone will be given ample time to tell me every single thing that i got wrong about them. and the first person to shout o

. >> i think the doris kearns goodwin took -- book is very telling. it is wonderfully documented. it feeling like they were ships passing in the night. there would be times when he would reach out to her, and she was unavailable to him, and when she would reach out to him, and he was unavailable to her. it was a complicated relationship, to put it mildly. politically, i agree completely. i think there are times when she was out there beyond where he wanted her to be, but she had passionate views. advocacy, she also very much -- he was very clear on this -- served as his eyes and ears. she could be out there, and he could not. role.as a very useful >> when you talk about women in the white house, sometimes, you're talking about other women -- the doris kearns goodwin book -- you say, well the president and unburden himself to their spouses and share secrets -- not all secrets apparently. that?servations on >> on the other woman? she should go away. [laughter] >> i was going to add one thing on eleanor and franklin when it comes to the other women, that guilt played such a a role in

studied the goodwin roosevelt during the second world war. and a sourceneer of inspiration for my book, hidden power. historians tend to be male, with all due respect. they have ignored this important subject. i hope that i will persuade you this morning that marriage has consequences and presidential marriages have consequences for the nation. have an impact our lives. presidential marriages are of a different order. i call my book "hidden power" because the full extent of the office of the president has been shrouded. both presidential couples and we the public -- we, the public, conspired to keep it secret. we are made nervous. they, the president of couples, do not want us to know the extent that they share it. i think it's time to lift the veil and get real. let me say that they are not who we think we -- who we think they are. they are too good at raising their own tracks and putting out an image of themselves. was, byroosevelt, who all accounts, a transformative against who all the others are judged, she was part administration. their

michael goodwin writes about it this morning in "the new york post" guest: i think al sharpton is getting a lot of attention, for not necessarily the right reasons. someone who throughout his career has made stoking racial tension throughout the country. i don't think it is for the positive. i am fairly outraged he is given a platform whether it is on msnbc or "meet the press," to continue his campaign. host: lafayette, indiana. good morning. caller: i am one of these people in -- the people in congress are honorable people and to call them a gang of 9 and 7 is disgraceful. the word gang does not sit good anymore. time is running out in our country, folks, you better get it together. thank you. ohio, mark.us good morning. caller: good morning. i want to speak on immigration. this is a very difficult thing. people have of different opinions, but this is my opinion. i certainly hope these people aren't granted amnesty. americans whot of in this country don't have the right to vote, because they've committed small felonies, ok? if you grant these people amnesty, they are going to have more r

dan goodwin -- godwin is at the baylor heart hospital in plano, texas. good morning to you. >> good morning. randy travis is out of surgery this morning. baylor, the web site for baylor hospital here in plano, texas, says he's in critical condition. doctors say the surgery last night was performed to relieve pressure on travis' brain after he suffered a stroke. apparently a complication from his congestive heart failure. the operation, as we mentioned, took place over several hours. during a news conference yesterday, travis' doctors had said he had been starting to show signs of improvement after being admitted to the hospital this past sunday. but then this stroke occurred yesterday and the emergency surgery. in recent months, travis had been involved in a number of high profile, embarrassing incidents involving alcohol, including a guilty plea to dwi in january. he had been trying to put those problems behind him and get his life and his career back on track, but now there is this very serious medical setback that he suffered yesterday. we have seen a

the man who owns 13 apple bees will be on along with michael goodwin talking about egypt, obamacare, immigration and so much more. >>steve: meanwhile let's go outside. going to be another hot one in the city. maria molina joins us live out on the streets of new york city. >>brian: is she working with ted? >> that's right. he just confirmed to me that he is indeed from serbia. >>brian: is he upset? is he crying? >> no. he's working right now. he's responsible for the movement you're seeing on the screen right now. we do want to take a look at the weather conditions across the country including right here in new york city where right now it's about 76 degrees. we will be climbing into the upper 80's. there is a lot of humidity in the air so it will be feeling little bit hotter than that. keep that in mind after a hot weekend. not as hot today but relatively summer-like. 87 degrees for your high temperature in new york city. as we head farther west across sections of the plains we're talking dangerous levels of heat. across parts of kansas we have heat advisories in in effect. you're ta

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today i want to mention kerry goodwin and sophie. they did not live long enough after being raped to become veterans. my experience with the va mental health was supportive caring trained professionals. we had a great ptsd clinic in san jose. i watched it go from a program for men and women to a ghost town. i was one of a group of five women who are are not eligible to go for treatment for various reasons. dr. brevard and her student started the process for the five of us. this is usually only done in an invitation setting. three weeks into the program she was told by her boss that she could not continue this therapy with us. she did however finish up a 17 week or graham. she was not going to leave us. our world was crushed. the student who worked with her watch with her watched us and as she watched she decided to change your focus to trauma and specifically military sexual trauma. she went to work at the va after she completed her studies. malia worked there and tells you is offered a job at sanford that about her time to spend wit

doris kearns goodwin studied the roosevelt during the second world war. she was a pioneer and a source of inspiration for my book, hidden power. historians tend to be male, with all due respect. they have ignored this important subject. i hope that i will persuade you this morning that marriage has consequences and presidential marriages have consequences for the nation. those unions have an impact our lives. presidential marriages are of a different order. i call my book "hidden power" because the full extent of the office of the president has been shrouded. both presidential couples and we the public -- we, the public, conspired to keep it secret. we are made nervous. they, the president of couples, do not want us to know the extent that they share it. i think it's time to lift the veil and get real. let me say that they are not who we think we -- who we think they are. they are too good at raising their own tracks and putting out an image of themselves. i would roosevelt, who was, by all accounts, a transformative first lady, against who all the others

today i want to mention too, kerry goodwin and sofey did not live long enough to become veterans. my experience with the v.a. mental health was supportive, caring trained professionals. we had a great clinic in san hoe say. i watched it go from a thriving froom a ghost town. i ones of a group of five women who were not el zwroible go for inpatient treatment for various reasons. dr. alona pavar and her students started a group for the five of us. this is only done in an inpatient setting. she was told by her boss that she could not continue this therapy with us. she did however finish time-out 17-week program. she was not going to leave us. our world was crushed. the student who worked with her watched us and as she watched she decided to change her focus to trauma and specialically military sexual trauma. she went to work afterat the v.a. after she completed the studies. she worked there until she was offered the job at stanford to be available. it does intensive therapy using processing therapy and most ings not available at v.a. facilities. how many times can a person take the s