what would they do if city college close e what would we all do if city college was gone? thanks. (applause) ~ >>> hi, my name is patty chung [speaker not understood] i'm a city college counselor with city college of san francisco. i'd like to thank you for holding this hearing today. first of all, i want to let you know my dad attended college city college of san francisco in 1951. it was because of city college he was able to learn english, find a union job and support his family. if it wasn't for city college of san francisco, i don't know where i'd be right now. but i am a counselor with my advance degree so i am city college. the other -- i wasn't planning on speaking today, but i really wanted to get up here and share with you something that i found very distressful. i think it was like the second semester when our interim chancellor was at our college. it was a staff development day and all of us were called in to a huge auditorium and we had a speaker that sang the praises of university of phoenix. and we were told that we needed to offer more classes like them, online cla

my brother is also starting city college in the fall and won't be able to if city college closes, won't be able to achieve what he wants to do, and he wants to study law. i've been humbled by my experiences at city college and it's nothing like what my high school teachers and media have told me. i regret [speaker not understood] many of my [speaker not understood] as they will not transfer out in time because time is of the essence to study and be the most successful student and i guess i'm out of time. thank you. (applause) >> thank you. >>> my name is dawn moore. i'm alumni and current student is the ccsf. the accjc commission members did not reveal their hearts, goals, connectionses and how they got their position. but accjc wants to close ccsf or reduce ccsf in spite of ccsf, san francisco's people and our elected board. accjc statements that ccsf would and then they could and then they would lose accreditation and, therefore, our enrollment stopped rising. and it's worked at compton junior college and they used that as proof because they didn't have an elected board any more, they

if all these students -- if city college closes, there are students [speaker not understood]. there are second chance students, ex offenders, [speaker not understood] based on their income. if all of these students lose the opportunity to attend city college of san francisco, their surrounding community colleges in the bay area will also have a limit, a cap on the number of students it can serve. mostly unlikely it will be able to attend another community college in the area. so, what would happen to san francisco with an additional 1500 students, ex offenders, low-income students, [speaker not understood] who cannot go to college, lose fund to begin with. and secondly, san francisco will have additional costs in providing service for these students as well as possibly crime will go up. in some cases we hope not. i strongly support what you're doing. thank you very much for having this hearing, but it's really important to you as elected officials do a little extra, if you can, to try to save city college. thank you very much. (applause) >> thank you. next speaker, please. >>>

if the city were to sift million dollars it could take between 6 and 19 years to be absorbed if the marketplace. about 2 dozens of those projects like new york city and seattle and washington most of them go beyond have other areas of focus such as a affordable housing and open space speaker san francisco's program is very unique in that it allows any third party developers or investor to own t dr without it having to be connected with the ultimate your. there's seven hundred thousand or 1.6 t dr that's been transferred off the parcel but not been used. that's been noted i think as a positive in the reviews of t dr programs. there isn't the program to go from yours to developer speaker and sifting t dr month jurisdictions track t dr through documents. in terms of pricing there's quite a few a variety. to increase the fdr in some cities you have programs that compete with t dr like other payments and in places where you have those people take the lowest cost options. in new york city due to the complainants t dr can become expensive it's about 25 percent of land value and the prices go as high a

also there is a question of what's the economic impact if we had -- if we were to lose city college as the acc, jc recommended, what would be the huge loss to work force development programs and the economic base of our city or pulling in workers from outside versus pulling up people from our communities and educating them and preparing them for a work force for today. so, i guess those are some questions, working with others to make sure we have a budget and legislative report on those impacts. and hopefully with all the different tools and working together we can do our best to even improve city college to make it more relevant and empowering to the residents that depend on it every day. as we built the safe city college coalition and campaign over the past year, i think the slogan that i'm city college resonates with me. every one of us has -- if not we ourselves, have been students, we have family members and others that depend on this critical institution. so, i'm really please that had we'll have many people testifying on this today. (applause) >> thank you. thank you, colleagues

if the city does approve it, then that issue moves forward to the city council. if the city council approves it, then the residents here have six months to find a new place to live. reporting live in palo alto, marianne favro, nbc bay area news. >>> new at 5:00, one day before the gold club's planned opening in downtown san jose, the city council rules committee will consider new rules for the gentleman's club. doors on west santa clara street on august 8th. on august 7th, a city councilman will ask the rules committee to consider making adult entertainment establishments pay a public safety fee to cover the increase in crime he says will follow the bikini bar. he also proposes a no-touching rule, brighter lighting inside and an earlier closing time. >> there's a lot of guys walking around with cash. they're often distracted. we see dancers who are often underage. we see all kinds of issues relating to sexual battery. so by doing what we can to try to reduce those harms, i'm hoping at least we can avoid what we have seen in other cities. >> he says the city of sa

if anybody is interested they can see me afterwards and i can give you what other cities have used. >> awesome. are you all right? why don't you hold the mic until you don't need it any more. we have another question over here. >> this is for the san francisco crew. how important was your task force, elevate the issue of graffiti abatement in san francisco? >> i think one of the main reasons why it was elevated is -- and it's been continued to be elevated. the current mayor was actually the director of public works and he saw that graffiti was a serious problem. and, so, it's become more and more prevalent and the board of supervisors has also taken it on. i think they also recognize that the graffiti brings blight to the neighborhood. and, so, it hasn't been hard to get the support. and just like we're all here, as you saw yesterday, the city leaders are all on board with this. so, that helps a lot. if you can get your city leaders to buy in that it's an actual problem, your chances of having either a good programs or increase in funding or the other things that you need, you stand a

i want to ask if our city building manager rob can come up. thank you for being here i know you have a lot of work to do. >> i'm with the building management and security systems. i want to give you an update. since the last time, we talked the hardware is expected within three to four weeks we should have that in the first week of august and that will be four monitors two at the ground floor entrance and two one at each main level. those touch panels will be here first, the the programming we're working on that at this point instead of doing the website as originally planned we've partnered with e t and go through software recessions and those should be helpful. our timelines we're planning at this point to go live by the end of august. if there are no other questions president chiu. i want to make a quick comment you, you know, this topic has come up and i think itself fair to say that we've having had other discussions i'm pleased in the next month this is actually going to happen. colleagues we had raised the issue in 2009 and city hall wa

why would anyone want to go to city college if you think you can't finish your studies there. that's one point. in any way you can assist. i'm sure you have a peer department or whatever. there is much to be done with like this kind of damage to an institution's image. also wanted to say i'm really disturbed by the appeals process and that i don't know if you're aware of this, but actually the same people who came to this conclusion are also going to be the ones who review the conclusion. so, i don't think -- i think it's doubtful they'll change their mind. and then also the next step which i think is called the appeal, i'm not sure, would be another review, and that is the person -- the chair of the actual organization actually appoints the people who are going to be on that committee. so, i think -- like i'm not optimistic that, you know, they're going to change their minds and that's pretty disturbing to me because [inaudible]. thank you. >> thank you. (applause) >> thank you very much. >>> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm bill shields. i'm the chair of the labor and commun

. >> wal-mart is threatening to pull out of the district if city leaders pass the living wage bill that requires large retailers to pay their workers at least $5 an hour more than the minimum wage. >> today the big-box store announced if it passes they will pull the plans in the district. >> it's frustrating we worked so hard to get retailers to come into especially a district where they don't have a lot of options so we work really hard to get wal-mart to come and that was going to be an anchor to encourage more retail to come so it's very frustrating. >> wal-mart says it may opt-out of three other stores already under construction in the city. >> well still ahead on the news edge at 11:00 a human skull found on a public golf course. the latest on the search for clues in this murder mystery. >> and a health alert tonight. why some people who use indoor tan nurse and have been diagnosed with skin cancer never give up the deadly edition -- edition. -- addiction. >>  tonight in florida police want to know who the skull belongs to. they found a human skull in

if we can display that. the mahar ordinance along the eastern shore of the city, at the time mahar was adopted it was known to be contaminated. what mahar requires is that when an applicant getting a permit, is applying a permit that will destroy 50 cubic yards of soil, before the permit can be issued, they are referred to the department to determine whether the soil is contaminated and if necessary how to handle and clean up that site under health department supervision. the existing ordinance only applies in the blue zones. outside of that area, there are other areas in the city that have a high likelihood of soil contamination, those are industrially zoned areas and storage tank sites and areas of the marina and areas in the proximity to elevated freeways in the city. those are outside the existing city, outside existing mahar where the soil contamination but the mahar ordinance doesn't control ground contamination in those sites. for projects in those areas for the last 25 years through planning departme

we can figure out earlier whether they are going to be responsive to the city's concerns and if they are not, we can prepare and look at alternatives in a reasonable time and then bring them to the attention of this board so we are not placed in this last minute position with respect to charter deadlines. >> so, actually given the process that we have this year, i don't have a lot of faith in that. i have faith perhaps that hhf can start negotiations earlier, but i think without a threat of our actually rejecting the rates can we really achieve real leverage with the board of supervisors can we have the leverage that we need in considering that? >> to answer the question, this is a question that would be better answered by hhf. to really back that up and look at that, that's something that just would need more time to make that -- i don't want to say it's not -- so that you really could feel confident in taking some other action and if you really were going to look at some option either bringing in another health care provider or having a package that did not include kaiser, that wou

in addition if kaiser were excluded we were would basically have blue shield and city plan. all of our membership would be in a self insured type model where the city would be taking on risk of700 000-0000. >> can i ask a question. so i understand from the city attorneys as well, we don't have the ability to parse out kaiser versus blue shield or plan anything separate. i know we've been looking into this for the last few days. would you mind confirming that or if there is someone else? i just want to make sure that's clear on the record. i know it's been a question from community members and i want to make sure that is formally addressed. >> eric rap port from the city attorneys office. i would like to recommend that it has to be accepted as a packet or sent back to the board to be reformulated. >> there is no ability today or tomorrow. this is one package up or down from the board of supervisors. >> yes. this is from the charter a, the packet has to be supported from an actuarial report and this package had a report attached to the package and if you would modify it, it wo

you have done a great job in this city and i think if there is another city in the united states that i would consider living in, which i'm not doing, but if i did, it would be san francisco. there is a culture here and an excitement and diversity that is everything that america stands for and you've done a great job. i did hear, jack, that you were thinking about running for mayor? >> that could be interesting if you think about it, 148 campaign speeches, 6 second campaign videos and your big pledge that everyone can pay their taxes using square. [ applause ] [ laughter ] >> i think i speak for the mayor, both of us are happy we don't have to run again. truthfully we are thrilled that twitter and square are growing in new york city as well as in san francisco and city hall and bloomberg philanthropy when the east coast host the summit. like san francisco, new york has already had success in building the city. it's also embraced the culture of this sector and it's an example of the city and tech sector to create jobs and for the economic future and what people forget about is the high

that's not a likely outcome i'm told. >> so what happens if it does -- if city college of san francisco does lose its accreditation? what happens to the 90,000 students? that's a lot of students. >> it's a ton of students. and, you know, yesterday i met with bryce harris, who is the state chancellor for this. and he had no idea. he said, there will not be a college for these students to go to. >> he said he is working really hard. the state is working really hard to try to save the school. that is not what they hope will happen. >> is there anything in the state budget surplus that could come to the aid of this -- really i mean 75,000 students, this is not some insignificant part of the educational system of california. is there anything in the state budget surplus that could be brought to bear on this or is this just they're on their own? >> it is not a question of how much money although if they had all the money in the world it might not be a problem. it is money management. to give you an example, 125 people at city college have access to the payroll computer. so you can go in if yo

and i think that issue comes more to a head if we disagree with what a city attorney said. well, i was going on commission renne when he was saying that we could educate the commission. in that part of the education would be, it is not required but it is strongly recommended that you would get a written opinion from the city attorney to provide to the requestor of the rm i don't know if it means anything and, i don't know if the word of mouth is better or worse or a written determination is better or worse. because there is that and there is the when that is happened and then the when is what is certified here and you told me only when i asked. you did not actually... and there were a series of procedures that were not followed. but would that... would getting a written sbons have triggered the rest of the procedures to be followed was my question and in which case you would less en, if not mitigate the violations. >> there is a ten day window in responding getting a written opinion from the city attorney does not... >> i am in favor of the motion. i do think that it would

and i think that issue comes more to a head if we disagree with what a city attorney said. well, i was going on commission renne when he was saying that we could educate the commission. in that part of the education would be, it is not required but it is strongly recommended that you would get a written opinion from the city attorney to provide to the requestor of the information? i don't know if it means anything and, i don't know if the word of mouth is better or worse or a written determination is better or worse. because there is that and there is the when that is happened and then the when is what is certified here and you told me only when i asked. you did not actually... and there were a series of procedures that were not followed. but would that... would getting a written sbons have triggered the rest of the procedures to be followed was my question and in which case you would less en, if not mitigate the violations. >> there is a ten day window in responding getting a written opinion from the city attorney does not... >> i am in favor of the motion. i do think that

if they don't the city council may try to seize mortgage autos there is legal authority necessary to do in the public interest to condemn underwater loan autos jeff wright is a realtor. >> when qlernds make loans in a community they have a risk model established there are certain risks associated with making loans eminent domain is not something factored into the equation. >> california mortgage qlernds association also told abc 7 news if the city goes ahead with the plan lenders may be less likely to finance properties in richmond. >> people starting to gather now in san francisco to protest today's verdict in the court marshal case of former army private bradley manning. a judge found manning not guilty of aiding the enemy manning admitted to disclosing classified documents to wiki leaks. there is a protest going on now given the sentence manning could have received a life sentence if he had been convicted of the serious charge. >> more surveillance throughout oakland could be coming soon. city council votes tonight on a proposal tochl pand surveillance system that would include po