couldn't john boehner just fake it? and essentially allow a coup of the relatively safe seat republicans, get a lot of outside support, outside money from the party bigwigs who think it's a big idea, make it look like it's against john boehner's will and let the party bigwigs get what they want, let the conservatives take it and move forward. >> could he do it in theory? absolutely. he'd have to keep it extremely quiet. you have to remember the way that would look if it were to go through. maybe he decides this is what he wants in the long term or bigger picture. that really makes him as a speaker look not particularly powerful if he says on the one hand i really don't want this to happen, but hey, guys, it's happening anyway. that doesn't set him up in a strong position to hang on to his seat. he's already had some trouble. he had some opposition in becoming speaker. there's been a not small amount of chatter how strong he is as far as being able to hold on to the role he has. >> kasie hunt, nbc news political reporter

couldn't john boehner just fake it? and essentially allow a coup of the relatively safe seat republicans, get a lot of outside support, outside money from the party big wigs who think it's a big idea, make it look like it's against john boehner's will and let the party big wigs get ha thwhat they want the conservatives take it and move forward. >> could he do it in theory? absolutely. he'd have to keep it extremely quiet. you have to remember the way that would look if it were to go through. maybe he decides this is what he wants in the long term or bigger picture. that really makes him as a speaker look not particularly powerful if he says on the one hand i really don't want this to happen, but hey, guys, it's happening anyway. that doesn't set him up in a strong position to hang on to his seat. he's already had some trouble. he had some opposition in becoming speaker. there's been a not small amount of chatter how strong he is as far as being able to hold on to the role he has. >> kasie hunt, nbc news political report

we'll talk to house speaker john boehner and michigan governor rick snyder. with government gridlock worse than ever, the house speaker told us he'll redouble effort to repeal the president's health care plan, but as if to underline just how far apart the two sides are on everything, said this when i asked-- what do you think the president's agenda is for the second term? >> i have no idea. >> in detroit, the worst that had been feared happened. the city that had once within the pride of american industrial power went bankrupt. $18 billion in debt. we'll talk to michigan governor rick snyder about the fallout for municipal pensioners, bond holders, and businesses. and the calls for a national conversation on race. >> trayvon martin could have been me. >> we'll talk about that and the other news with our panel, susan page of "usa today." pbs correspondent gwen ifill. the "wall street journal's" gerald seib. "time" magazine's michael scherer. david ignatius of the "washington post." and our own john dickerson. this is fooks. captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs

that john boehner. just ask him. >> nobody spent more time trying to fix a broken immigration system than i have. i talked about it the day after the election and i've talked about it 100 times since. >> for more i'm joined by contributor ryan grim and the washington post political columnist dayne fa milbank. dana, is this the final evidence we needed that speaker john boehner has, in can the fa, had an intellectual and memory collapse of extraordinaire proportions? >> no, on the contrary. i think he's got this exactly right. you see on sunday he said he should be judged by how many pieces of legislation he's able to repeal essentially to have killed. so when he says he's done more for immigration, he means he's done more to kill immigration than anybody. >> he's right. is it, ryan grim? >> in the up or down world, that's exactly what's going on. >> ryan, do you agree with that analysis? >> sure, i mean, if that's what he -- if that's what he meant, then sure. even if you use his own judgment, his gauge

tough decision, isn't it, john boehner? >>> good wednesday morning. right now on first look, dangerous heat continues to consume a large part of the country. so when will it end? >>> four more jurors from the george zimmerman trial break their silence. >>> the autopsy report is in for actor cory monteith. so what killed the 31-year-old "glee" star? plus, frightening moments outside the international space station. >>> mcdonald's gives employees a lesson in belt tightening. >>> and who is the star of major league baseball's all-star game? >>> good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. as you may well know, it's hot, outside, very hot. parts of nearly every state hit

i don't think john boehner thinks so. i think john boehner wants to get out of it but i think the media often oversensationalizes. but here i think that they are undersensationalizing it. we have a real potential train wrecks coming up. we have the house needing to cooperate just to keep the lights on. not talking about passing new laws and solving problems. we're just talking about averting creating problems. it's hard to see how that happens. it can happen but it really might not. >> maybe #trainwreck should not be used for the aca but instead for the gop caucus. "new york" magazine's jonathan chait. as always, thank you. we'll post your article online after the show. >>> william shakespeare famously wrote "what's in a name?" the answer might be a lot of money in memorabilia sales. we'll get the latest on royal baby watch 2013 live from buckingham palace next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] harvey's i'm so happy you're home dance. that's real love. and so is giving him real tasty food. but some leading dog foods add su

tough decision, isn't it, john boehner? >>> tonight in washington, the nuclear option has been avoided in the senate, and democrats and republicans have finally agreed on a way to make the senate work a little better. >> you could call it the senate's own cold war. >> the filibuster is at the heart of a huge showdown today. >> are democrats preparing to go nuclear? >> the nuclear ti

tough decision, isn't it, john boehner? >>> tonight in washington, the nuclear option has been avoided in the senate, and democrats and republicans have finally agreed on a way to make the senate work a little better. >> you could call it the senate's own cold war. >> the filibuster is at the heart of a huge showdown today. >> are democrats preparing to go nuclear? >> the nuclear option. >> nuclear option. >> that nuclear option. >> changing longstanding senate rules to confirm cabinet nominees have been held up by senate republicans. >> how close are the democrats pushing the senate button? >> we'll move past the closure vote.

i was impressed with john boehner's remarks, acknowledging the hateful remarks. and yet, steve king remains unbowed. let's hear what he says about child smugglers. >> but i can tell you this, 80 to 90% of illegal drugs consumed in america come from or through mexico. i can tell you that in mexico they are recruiting kids to be drug smugglers, between the ages of 11 and 18, the media is replete with this. anybody who reads the paper should know, especially those who live on the border should know that there are many, many young people coming across the border unlawfully who are smuggling drugs into the united states. >> joy, the reasoning there seems to be there are drug smugglers, therefore they must all be dreamers. there is in connection between the statistics he is spouting off. >> i can't imagine the republican party lost 72% of the latino vote. i can't figure it out. even when he is not speaking, and doubling down on the cantelope calves, all gays are just bad, bad, women should be baby machines. the republican party is going to die if they don't weed out th

or in the words of speaker john boehner, it's an empty easter egg. yes, these are the divergent views, as the president wraps up a two-day three-city speaking tour, delivering an impassioned speech in jacksonville just a short time ago. let's get more americans back on the job that will be good for home ownership. that will be good for education. that is the smart thing to do. let's get past politics and do it. >>> the president who's traveled from illinois the midwest, has used plain and direct language. he wants the sideshow in want to cease, and he wants good job and a better bargain. he even invoked abraham linking who still managed to focus on what makes a country strong. yet dplt middle he wail still thinking how do we build that railroad. how do we widen our canals and ports? there are some things we can only do together. >> rebuilding our infrastructure is only one of them. >> he's not only advancing his agenda, just over 1200 days. he's also preparing for major budget fights that have dogged his tenure. >> i'm not going to let gridlock or in

john boehner is determined to let them rule. >> john: by placating them and letting them rule, is he keeping republicans jobs safe? >> he's keeping his job safe. i don't think he's keeping republicans safe. they're distancing themselves farther and farther, alienating themselves farther and farther from mainstream americans. >> john: let me turn it around and ask about the president. was it a mistake for president obama to delay implementation for larger employers to provide insurance. does it reflect weakness or lack of trust in his own plan. >> i think it was a mistake for this reason. the message that it seemed to send was we don't have our stuff together. right? >> john: yeah. >> and unfortunately people pounce on that. now, you and i both know it's not as big of a deal as they're making it. 4% of businesses are affected by this because 96% already provide healthcare, but it's a sign of weakness, and you can't show that in politics. you can't show that in washington. >> john: why do it? political reasons? to help with the midterms? despite the fact that americans need this legisl

i'll tell you why john boehner should be shedding tears about that internet scaly take. us to the rest of the news in the week since edward snowden's n.s.a. revelations came to light public anxiety has been growing over how internet service providers and internet search companies handle personal information fortunately there are still some. internet companies out there that put civil liberties and privacy rights ahead of the interests of america's out of control national security state one of those companies is x. mission but utah based independent internet service provider and while x. mission may be a little player in the i s p field it's making a big splash when it comes to protecting the rights of its users joining me to talk more about x. mission is its founder and c.e.o. pete ashdown pete welcome. thank you for having me tom thanks for joining us tell us about exploration how big is the company how many subscribers do you have what do you do we're actually in our twentieth year x. mission was one of the first internet service providers in the country i started it i

john boehner (r-ohio) creemos que un enfoque paso a paso con sentido comun es el camino correcto. lo hemos discutido por meses y lo discutiremos manana. tras su propia reunion este martes, los democratas insisten que no aceptaran 1 propuesta migratoria sin camino a la ciudadania. rep. xavier becerra (d- california) creemos que es algo necesario incluir 1 camino a la ciudadania porque si no, no estamos verdaderamente arreglando este sistema roto, que no solo esta roto en la frontera o en el sitio de empleo, pero esta roto en cuanto a como tratamos a la gente que esta en el pais y ha vivido en las sombras por tanto tiempo. y otros creen que la reunion republicana del miercoles quienes estan dispuestos a hacerlo. rep. jared polis (d-colorado) vamos a ver si algunos son en apoyo de reformar el sistema. podemos pasarlo, de la camara. standup: fernando pizarro, washington d.c.asi es que este atencion estara centrada en esta reunion aqui en la camara de representantes de los republicanos para determinar que podria ser aprobado en 1 eventual reforma migratoria. desde el capitolio en washi

i'll tell you why john boehner should be shedding tears about that incident sealy take. us to the rest of the news in the week since edward snowden's n.s.a. revelations came to light public anxiety has been growing over how internet service providers and internet search companies handle personal information fortunately there are still some internet companies out there that put civil liberties and privacy rights ahead of the interests of america's out of control national security state one of those companies is x. mission utah based independent internet service provider and while x. mission may be a little player in the i s p field it's making a big splash when it comes to protecting the rights of its users joining me to talk more about x. mission is its founder and c.e.o. pete ashdown pete welcome. thank you for having me tom thanks for joining us tell us about exploration how big is the company how many subscribers do you have what do you do we're actually in our twentieth year x. mission was one of the first internet service providers in the country i started it in one

. >>> also tonight, john boehner has a cantaloupe-sized steve king problem. and the longer it goes on, the worse it is for the speaker of the house. >>> plus, sex scandals and second chances. america seems always ready to forgive the men involved. what about the women? that's all coming up. >>> tonight, we begin with texas, once again, locked in a fierce battle with the federal government. this time over voting. you see, texas probably thought they were in the clear after the supreme court struck down section 4 of the voting rights act last month. this morning, attorney general eric holder speaking at the national urban league in philadelphia said not so fast. >> today i am announcing that the justice department will ask a federal court in texas to subject the state of texas to a preclearance regime similar to the one required by section 5 of the voting rights act. >> what holder announced today is an aggressive and crafty step by the federal government to try and limit the damage caused by the supreme court last month. by using a little known part of the law

boehner i don't hate john boehner as speaker boehner but you know every night he would go to the round table of the tobacco lobbyist everybody knows that he would be seen would be viewed over there he would drink and eat for free everybody knows that for eight or nine years now a lot of this stopped when i got into trouble and a lot of these things have been codified now into law as a legal way to do things but but so they're not so it's not legal for him to do when now a lot of things have been again made legal the swamp wasn't drained it was made legal but but what he did passing out tobacco checks on the floor of the house which is what happened carter former congressman large and expose that. eating on somebody else's tab for years some of the golfing you know the things that that he did were illegal and again i point some of this out in the book not to just disparage him but to say that these these existed at the highest levels now why his his he wasn't taken to task for is a decision the justice department not myself and i would think you know frankly why the democrats aren't tal

boehner i don't hate john boehner as speaker boehner but you know every night he would go to the round table the tobacco lobbyist everybody knows that he would be seen would be viewed over there he would drink and eat for free everybody knows that for eight or nine years now a lot of this stopped when she got into trouble and a lot of these things have been codified now into law as a legal way to do things but but so they're not so it's not legal for him to do when now a lot of things have been again made legal the swamp wasn't drained it was made legal but but what he did passing out tobacco checks on the floor of the house which is what happened former congressman large and exposed that. eating on somebody else's tab for years some of the golfing you know the things that that he did were illegal and again i point some of this out in the book not to. just disparage him but to say that these these existed at the highest levels now why his is he wasn't taken to task for is a decision of the justice department not myself and i would think you know frankly why the democrats aren't talking

we'll talk to house speaker john boehner and michigan governor rick snyder. with government gridlock worse than ever, the house speaker told us he'll redouble effort to repeal the president's health care plan, but as if to underline just how far apart the two sides are on everything, said this when i asked-- what do you think the president's agenda is for the second term? >> i have no idea. >> in detroit, the worst that had been feared happened. the city that had once within the pride of american industrial power went bankrupt. $18 billion in debt. we'll talk to michigan governor rick snyder about the fallout for municipal pensioners, bond

john boehner, look at his tan. it's greater than what yours is going to be when you go to miami. >> rick: wait a second. >> you're a great spinner but this time it's real. people don't like it. the americans see that it's there. these things did happen. and for him to be talking about it doesn't make any sense. >> rick: i just wonder how this sort of sets the stage for any kind of negotiations. how do you sit down and work with somebody in good faith when you are going around and calling their investigations phony and all the name calling? how do you get anything done? >> i think he's calling the scandals phony and why they're -- >> they're scandals. >> why they're you would -- huddling -- the agenda has not changed and what we saw when we were facing the debt ceiling coming down the last time around action you had republicans who actually hurt our fragile recovery. we can't have that happen again. so he said needs to get in there. go meet with them in congress. >> rick: howle are republicans going to be to sit dow

. >> john: senator boehner says the house will write its own bill and house, the way it's going, it's in bite-sized chunks with path to citizenship being the last of chunks. president has said he is not going to sign any immigration bill that does not include a path to citizenship. from the outset, are you concerned that immigration reform may be dead? >> no, not at all. in fact i believe that by the end of this year the house will pass the senate bill. i know that is not what they think now and they will say, no, that is not what is going to happen. let me explain why. first i understand where speaker boehner is coming from. i have a lot of respect for the house. he has a whole lot of republican members, they will vote no. they fear republican primaries from the right if they vote yes. i think the dynamic will change and they are still worried about their primaries but let it go for four reasons. first, the coalition john mentioned, its broad and deep coalition of people usually don't side with democrats, catholic church and evangelicals, business community. now, they are going to fe

john boehner (r-ohio) creemos que un enfoque paso a paso con sentido comun es el camino correcto. lo hemos discutido por meses y lo discutiremos manana. tras su propia reunion este martes, los democratas insisten que no aceptaran 1 propuesta migratoria sin camino a la ciudadania. rep. xavier becerra (d- california) creemos que es algo necesario incluir 1 camino a la ciudadania porque si no, no estamos verdaderamente arreglando este sistema roto, que no solo esta roto en la frontera o en el sitio de empleo, pero esta roto en cuanto a como tratamos a la gente que esta en el pais y ha vivido en las sombras por tanto tiempo. y otros creen que la reunion republicana del miercoles quienes estan dispuestos a hacerlo. rep. jared polis (d- unieron sus fuerzas para apoyar dos causas importantes para ellos... grupos latinos y aquellos a favor de los matrimonios homosexuales intensifican sus movilizaciones a favor de una reforma migratoria... unieron sus vidas... a solo pasos del capitolio....en una ceremonia simbolica... esta pareja no solamente celebra su amor sino tambien la reciente decis

but ultimately, the fate of the senate bill lies in the hands of john boehner. senators mccain and schumer spoke about the bill's chances of finding its way to the president's desk. >> there's always friction between the house and the senate. a lot of it understandable. a lot of it just egos. but i respect the house of representatives. i respect their views. and we have a job ahead of us. and convincing them. >> national republican leadership will tell john boehner, if you don't pass a bill, then we're going to be a minority party for a generation. and he's not only the house leader, he's a party leader. speaker boehner will find two choices. no bill, or let the bill pass with some chamber republicans. we'll find that the better choice. we'll pass the bill by the end of the year. >>> texas lawmakers will begin another 30-day special session. they will take up the state's abortion bill that could close nearly all of the state's clinics and prohibit abortions after 20 weeks. it is the same bill that was challenged by wendy davis. the filibuster has kicked off a na

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harry reid and john boehner squared off again on student loans. >> the house has done its job. it's students that are going to pay the price when they see the interest rate on their loans doubling. >> balance the budget on the backs of struggling students. >> how republicans hold the keys to the fate of both immigration reform and the farm bill. on immigration, the senate plans that couples who promise a path to citizenship with increased border security is a nonstarter with house conservatives who favor a piecemeal approve. >> the speaker, john boehner is in a very weak position with his band of very extreme conservatives who have little interest in making concessions. >> the fate of the five-year half a trillion dollar farm bill is uncertain. conservatives want cuts in the almost $80 billion a year food stamp program. which along with farm subsidy programs expires at the end of september. >> a large part of that bill, and it's been estimated as much as 80%, may be allocated to funding food stamps. >> republicans are saying some of the house is saying that that isn't going to

john boehner only cares about 2014, not 2016. so they believe if they were to pass the senate bill or anything that obama could sign, right, that they would hurt their chances of holding on to the house in 2014. i'm sure you saw the latest abc poll said 47% of americans said it wouldn't make any difference how their congressmen voted on immigration reform. in 2016, i think it's very clear. if the republicans have any hope of ever winning the white house again, they must be seen as supporting and actively supporting comprehensive immigration reform. >> michael: yeah, and we don't see that anywhere from their party. i want to ask about attorney general eric holder, then i want to bring in jason johnson of politic365. president obama is meeting with eric holder, and civil rights leaders today, to discuss the civil rights act. can holder reassembly what the scotus decision took apart? >> i think it's a little too little too late for eric holder. but he's starting with texas. there's no doubt texas is very guilty of violating people's

in fact, speaker john boehner says he's happy to take his time if it means getting it right. nancy cordes reports. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner sought to silence the doubters saying house republicans are too divided on immigration to pass anything. >> the vast majority of our members believe we do have to wrestle with this problem. >> reporter: but the members are also leery of the massive reform bill that was passed two weeks ago. instead they want tony trow deuce a series of smaller bills starting with policies most popular with republicans. republican raul labrador. >> we want to have security first, border security first and then do something with the lool status here and the senate sits backward. >> reporter: democrats feel they'll never get around to it. and while national gop leaders say that's key to winning back hispanic voters, most house republicans don't feel that electoral pressure in part because of redistricting. on average hispanics make up just 10% of the voting age population in republican house districts compared to 21% in democratic districts. r

boehner. >> i am agreeing with john boehner. let the records show. it would be a bad idea then and it is now. now we have proof. >> let us know who you side with. >>> still to come call to end stand your ground law in florida by celebrities, activists, politicians. we wanted to know if they were saying it or if it was true. >>> and the jury in the zimmerman case. we don't know their names but should we right now? and a major development in the asiana crash. what the airline is doing now. e for a medical convention loses his computer, exposing thousands of patient records to identity theft. data breaches can happen that easily. we don't believe you should be a victim of someone else's mistake. we're lifelock. we constantly monitor the web so if any of your personal information is misused, we're on it. ♪ ow. [ male announcer ] call 1-800-lifelock or go to lifelock.com today. mhandle more than 165 billionl letters and packages a year. that's about 34 million pounds of mail every day. ever wonder what this costs you as a taxpayer?

do john boehner and eric cantor call you and say how can you help us elbow renegades into this? >> i work with all republicans in the house and the senate to encourage them to do what reagan did. republican reagan view. this is not compromise, moving to the left or something. mobilityity of labor, of capital, this is what they teach you in economics. it should be second nature for republicans and conservatives, and the good news is we're making a lot of progress. we should do more. there will be a public vote for this. >> you have had so many fascinating positions, chief of staff for the white house, and now mayor of chicago -- if you were to be asked for the white house, what would you put on the table? what you think democrats need to do that that they are not doing today to make this more salient or to get more traction? >> first of all, this is not a problem or an issue for democrats, so that would be that advice. this is an issue in the republican party and in their hands. i do not think this notion that members of congress are running in specific districts and if you're th

we're going to ask him why he called john boehner' comments on immigration laughable. we'll ask him a lot of other things, too. i hope it doesn't go joe into saying something inappropriate. we'll see if that happens. all that plus cokie roberts, eugene robertson, melanie barns and later comedian howie mandel. back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> still ahead on "way too early," in honor of carlos danger, what would you name your alter online ego? your most creative tweets in just a minute. also "morning joe" is just a few moments away. ♪ you like to keep your family healthy and fit. and now there's a new way to do the same for your dog. introducing new purina dog chow light & healthy. it's a no-sacrifices, calorie-light way to help keep him trim, with a deliciously tender and crunchy kibble blend he'll love. and 22% fewer calories than dog chow. discover the lighter side of strong. new purina dog chow light & healthy. the house caught fire and we were out on the streets. [ whispering ] shhh. it's only a dream. and we have home insurance. but if we made a claim, ou

even john boehner admits that. he said last week, don't judge us by how many bills we pass, judge us by how many bills we repealed. they haven't done either one. they haven't passed anything or repealed anything. they're a do-nothing bunch of slugs that are sucking up our tax dollars and wasting them. i'm talking about, of course, the republican leadership. the two years under nancy pelosi, everything that president obama accomplished, he accomplished in the two years under nancy pelosi. that was a kick ass congress. john boehner, nothing. you know why? because they really are anti-government. they want to shut the government down. again, president obama's gotta make sure the american people know that. donna is in atlanta, georgia. hey, donna. >> caller: hi, bill. first i want to thank you and your staff for your service in getting information out to us because a lot of us wouldn't know without you. so first of all -- >> bill: well, i appreciate that. thank you. we're happy to be here to do it. >> caller: i think w

. >> john boehner. >> yeah. >> i got a point of view on this but in case you forgot john boehner's problem with the faucet area. >> making sure that these kids have a shot at the american dream. it's important. i put my -- myself through school, working every rotten job there was -- >> love you. >> and i think the top of our list is provided for the safety and security of the american people. that's at the top of our list. >> i love that he cries. all right? if nancy palosy did that, she would not be on top. >> clearly, john boehner is not afraid to cry. water works at the drop of a hat. if nancy did that it would be held against her. it makes it a safe place. >> the issue is it's not about emotion, it's about emotions that men perceive as weakness and crying men perceive as weakness. if a man cries we know a man is tough, if a woman cries maybe she's not up to the job. >> okay. >> all right. [ laughter ] >> margaret gets the last word. >> i don't agree with that. >> thanks to both of you. >> every night we take a look outside the day's top stories for something we call "the out front out

the question we have to ask ourselves, is john -- is john boehner willing to lose his speakership over immigration? one of his top advisors told me earlier this week why would he do so over a priority of the president's? he's much more focused on a grand bargain and fiscal -- in the house, there's not. as house districts are drawn, the people generally are representing their constituents by opposing this. i traveled earlier this week to lynchburg, virginia. a town hall meeting on immigration. and other things. the chairman of the house judiciary committee, bob goodlet from virginia has been in the house since 1992 and opening the -- his meeting -- his discussion up. and it is clear where his constituents, at least those who attended that meeting are. they are opposed to the pathway to citizenship. that is what most members of the house strongly object to. what happened in the senate was there are 14 republicans who joined all the democrats in voting yes. how do they get that deal? they sweetened the pot significantly by spending billions of dollars on border security. and -- >> and pub

it speaks to john boehner's hands off style. most, a lot of leaders would not take, listen to a guy who has threatend them over the years, voted against them, has been at war with them. boehner worked with him and gave him his vote and it really speaks to his approach to his members which sometimes is good but a lot of times can be difficult especially when you do get legislation through. >> who knows what the horse trading is going on. thank you so much. appreciate your time. moments ago we showed you those startling security video shows the moment a passenger train derailed and crashed in spain. 78 people killed. kyra simmons the live at the site. kyra, what do we know about how this happened. i know it's early. >> reporter: it is early, richard, but you saw from those pictures how fast the train appears to have been going. by the way you can see behind me now this crane lifting one of the train cars up from the track. this is, i think, the third car that i have seen lifted. there were seven carriages on the locomotive itself

this morning speaker john boehner seemed to welcome those efforts saying that younger members of his caucus seemed to be educated on immigration issues? >> when you look at this, 2/3 of the house members, at least 2/3 of the members have never dealt with this issue. the more information that we have for our members, the better we're going to be able to facilitate dealing with a very thorny issue. >> one of the names on the gang of eight's target list is paul ryan. democrats hope may emerge as a champion of reform in the house. as evidence, after the republican immigration meeting last week as some members were bashing so called amnesty and insisting no way no how on comprehensive reform, paul ryan repeatedly reminded his conference that the problem is still a problem and needs to be fixed. >> we have a broken system that needs to be fixed and i think we have consensus that the system is broken and it needs to be fixed. it needs to be fixed. it needs to be fixed. there is an emerging consensus that it's broken and there's a consensus we need to fix it. >> it needs to be fixed. joining

but the leader of your opponents in congress, speaker john boehner, says his job and i'm quoting him, is not to legislate but to repeal legislation. he also says he's ready once again to use the debt ceiling as a hostage. i assume, i guess, we should appreciate mr. boehner's honesty because basically, what he's saying is that his caucus doesn't care if their actions damage the country. the only thing they will care about, their sing ghoul lar priority for this nation is obstructing this particular president, isn't it? >> well, that's exactly right. as the president said today, we should be building up our economy. we should not be tearing things down. unfortunately, we have a republican majority especially in the house of representatives, where if the president were to adopt the republican platform tomorrow and say yes, i agree with you, they would all say we don't agree with our own position anymore. and that is exactly what's happened in the house, martin. president has put forward what used to be very bipartisan ideas, let's invest in our infrastructure. let's make sure we invest i

i was surprised when john boehner decided to go toe-to-toe with him. and gave a class on dodging and political chicanery. watch this and learn. >> will you allow any immigration bill to come to the house floor for a vote if it includes some kind of path to citizenship for the 11 million illegal immigrants that are in this country now? >> bob, we have a broken immigration system. the legal immigration system is broken. we have a problem with 11 million people who are here without documents. 40% of who, by the way came here as legal immigrants. we have a very big problem. i've committed one the house does not like the senate bill. it's one big massive bill that in my opinion doesn't have enough serious triggers to protect our border. >> would you get back to my question, would you allow a bill on the floor that provides a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal people. >> what we're doing this in the house is a common step by step approach. >> are you not going to answer that question? >> this is not about me. this is about allowing the house to work

it was so close the house speaker john boehner himself had to cast a vote. he was joined by house democratic minority leader nancy pelosi. the man what sparked this entire debate, edward snowden, he's still searching for a place to live. first, let's go to moscow where nbc's jim maceda joins me. i guess he's going to get a temporary place to live so he can leave the terminal. explain. >> yeah, it's complicated. let's talk about that scramble yesterday when russian news agencies reported that snowden would get a special i.d. card or document of some kind that would allow him to finally leave the airport transit zone and officially enter russian soil. he's been stuck there for over a month now. he's got a canceled u.s. passport. while he waits for russian immigration service here to approve a request for a temporary, not permanent, temporary asylum. but it turned out that the lawyer wasn't carrying any such i.d. card. he did have some fresh clothes for snowden, some pizza and a couple of books. now, the lawyer spoke to the press afterwards and he made it sound

look at john boehner's quote of a week or two ago. don't judge us by the laws we passed, judge us by the laws we repeal. i mean, which is just an astounding thing for a speaker to say. they're not even repealing laws. they're not passing laws, not repealing laws, just making a lot of hot air. >> eugene robinson, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. >> great to be here. >> coming up, summertime. and the many senior skip days of speaker john boehner. >> halfway through 2013, just 15 bills passed by congress had become law. they almost passed a 16th bill but obama refused to sign hr-2904, the this is not another repeal of obama care we swear but don't look inside it just sign it act. >> we're not just over here making noise. the house republicans are copy continuing to take action. being sixteen, alex thinks he's invincible. his dad knows he's not. that's why dad got allstate accident forgiveness. it starts the day you sign up. [ female announcer ] with accident forgiveness from allstate, your rates won't go up just because o

on capitol hill lawmakers are back from vacation and on to immigration house speaker john boehner and republicans met to discuss the immigration bill today on the other side of pennsylvania avenue president obama and democrats spoke with members of the has spanish caucus to come up with a plan of their own and standing in the path between these two meetings where iraq was a very good rider how founders of men women and children using the power of numbers to force a little muscle to flex. right. now union station it is seen as a transition chordal a hub for everybody that comes in and out of washington d.c. but these immigration protestors are using it as a political transition to make their message known that they want a pathway to legal citizenship for months members of congress have been crafting scratching and redrafting an immigration reform bill now protesters say the burden falls on the shoulders of house republicans we are not going to stand by the side of the people to keep attacking our community and announced their way and the democrats agree if it is taking so long john boe