and he said yes. >> mr. zimmerman indicated that mr. martin had gone between the -- buildings, he was out of sight, correct. >> yes. >> yet, you testified a moment ago pursuant to mr. zimmerman's statement he had gone down to -- >> that was his statement. as far as him having a visual on when he might have gotten out of the vehicle i really don't know. i can't say. i wasn't there. but he could have seen him at any point which way he was running. am i making myself clear? >> the jury can decide. i will walk you through a little bit more. my question while ago is whether or not had you evidence to support contention that mr. zimmerman continued to follow trayvon martin after being told not to. do you have any evidence to support that? >> i would answer -- i have -- information, yes, that there was -- just based on where we low kay indicated trayvon and -- the fact that the altercation happened after his conversation. that's my interpretation. it was some -- >> let me ask you this. do you have anything to contradict mr. zimmerman's stateme

>> yes. >> was that mr. zimmerman, too? >> yes. >> when he uttered the word -- >> oh, i didn't hear that. >> you didn't hear that. i can play it, again, if you want. >> which entrance is that he's heading towards? >> the back entrance. >> do you recognize that voice as being george zimmerman? >> yes. >> now, you had never actually heard the 911 tape other than when you heard it that it was being played by george zimmerman, but you had not heard the defendant screaming before, had you? >> like that, no. >> thank you very much, ma'am. >> that's okay. so, you heard him say the word, right? >> yes. >> on the tape? >> yes. >> and you heard him talk for years now, correct? >> that's correct. >> did that word, the way he said, did that give you a sense that he was acting with spite or ill will or hatred in that sense? >> no. >> did that seem to just be an off hand way of talking to whoever it was he was talking about? >> yes. >> did you, knowing as you do george's voice throughout the years, did you even hear, by the way, the seco

mr. zimmerman, please stand up. i'll remind you, sir, that you're still under oath from when we had you sworn in earlier before the break. did you now have sufficient time to discuss with your attorneys whether or not you wanted to testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> i don't need to know what was said. but after those discussions, have you made a decision? >> yes, your honor. >> and what is your decision, sir? >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> okay. you understand that no matter what counsel says to you, it's still your decision. do you understand that? >> yes, your honor. >> okay. and i need to know, is it your decision to not testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> and are you making that decision freely and voluntarily? >> yes, your honor. >> has anybody promised you anything to get you to make that decision? >> no, your honor. >> has anybody threatened you? >> no, your honor. >> and this is clearly the decision that you yourself have made? >> yes, your honor. >> thank

did you know where mr. zimmerman was just after the shooting? >> i didn't know his exact location, but i knew he was not in the state of florida. >> you knew that he had to leave the state? >> yes. >> and at first there was police investigation, correct? >> i believe so, yes, there was a shooting. >> and that he was not charged with a crime immediately, was he? >> judge, i object to that, again, unless she has that information. i ask that he rephrase the question. >> i'll rephrase it. do you know how long it was before charges were fired against him? >> i believe it was a couple of months. >> so you know he was not charged initially by police, correct? >> correct. >> and he wasn't challenged until the fourth circuit came down from jacksonville and charged him? >> objection. >> sustained. >> i don't know exactly who charged him, but i know he was charged. >> do you know whether the 18th judicial circuit, this circuit charged him? >> i believe there was a special prosecutor involved. >> you were asked when the first time was. question, i think he

the entirety of your true interaction with mr. zimmerman was on the tape, correct? it was small bits that were not -- >> a little bit before i could get it started. introductions to each other when i walked in the room, i'm sure. and something that might have been said as i walked out. >> sure. the substance of it we've all heard now from the tape itself. >> yes. >> and as to that interview, you don't have a great deal of testimony that you can offer the jury except to listen to the tape, correct? >> pretty much. >> okay. so why are we questioning you? >> sorry for the interruption. you may proceed. >> why, then, are we spending a few minutes questioning you? we're going to move it along. obviously you know from previous testimony, i want to make sure we set the stage properly and anything that may have some inquiry we follow it. >> okay. >> the -- let's go to one of the parts that were talked about concerning what wasn't on the tape. that was the part about whether or not you were catholic or christian. i want to just spend a moment on that, if i might. he noticed

zimmerman, but before you got to the that next interview with mr. zimmerman, tell the jury, if you would, what other actions you were doing as the investigating officer. >> from the beginning? >> well, yeah. we sort of have gone through the 26th, correct? that night. >> okay. >> and then we've talked about that you had a dozen or so witness statements had you already gathered on the 27th. >> okay. >> and that we had the interview and the re-creation interview on the 27th. so moving us from that pointen forward. >> other than identifying trayvon himself and farce you want my timeline as far as what i was doing as far as it pertains to george? >> yes, sir. >> okay. on the day after, after i identifying, well, on the day of the incident, i spent several hours attempting to identify trayvon and i spent most of the night doing that actually. and after identifying him, i had to go ahead and make arrangements to get him released. the interviews that were conducted in preparation for my next interview with george had to be listened to compared to with the w

and he said yes. >> and mr. zimmerman has indicated that mr. martin had gone between the buildings, he was out of sight, correct? >> yes. >> yet you testified a moment ago that pursuant to mr. zimmerman's statement he had gone down to rain tree circle. >> that was his statement. as far as him having a visual when he got out of the vehicle i really don't know. i wasn't there. he didn't say at any point which way he was running. am i making myself clear? >> i'll try and clarify it a little bit more. my question a little while ago is whether or not you had any evidence to support any contention that mr. zimmerman continued to follow trayvon martin after being told not to. do you have any evidence to support that? >> i would answer i have information, yes, that there was -- just based on where we located trayvon and the fact that the altercation happened after his conversation. that's my interpretation there was some -- following. >> let me ask it this way. do you have anything to contradict mr. zimmerman's statement that he walked the rest of the

is the position that mr. goode saw, trayvon martin straddling and striking mr. zimmerman with mr. zimmerman on his back, consistent with the forensic evidence that you found at the time of the shot? >> yes, sir. >> that statement, i take it, is separate and apart from mr. zimmerman's statement describing essentially the same thing. >> right. but again, i would not have used that to give my opinion. i have to use the physical evidence in conjunction with the statement of mr. zimmerman. >> the -- you pointed out in your direct evidence that there were two lacerations on the back of mr. zimmerman's head and that you testified that you believed those two have been from separate impacts. >> yes, sir. >> because you could see the sort of valley in between. >> yes, sir. >> those were the two blows that created the lacerations. >> right, in addition they were so separate that if you impacted one, you couldn't get the other one. so there were two reasons. >> your testimony was that was consistent with having mr. zimmerman's head struck at least twice on a surface like concrete. >> objectio

zimmerman. >> as to mr. martin, i don't want you to discuss any anecdotal information you may have heard about but just focusing on his physical size, age, what not, and to the extent i believe that that was relevant in comparing the physical abilities, if you would give the jury your thoughts on that. >> looking at the physique, the overall size of a person, is more telling about an individual than age. so in my review of it, there was nothing that indicated to me that mr. martin wasn't physically capable. you know, when i looked at his size and weight, they were comparable to -- i saw the photos of him, he seemed to be, overall, in good physical health and physically fit. comparatively to mr. zimmerman who had lost weight. he had great weight loss and was not from what i could see and understand of his physical able ability to be physically fit. the information provided in the emt reports and things like that, photos don't tell you everything. the one thing is a picture can't tell you everything. i rely on

zimmerman's head. >> 31? >> 31 is the front of mr. zimmerman's head. 32 is still photograph mr. martin at 7-eleven. 33 a picture of mr. martin's hand. 34 is second still of mr. martin at the 7-eleven. 35 an aerial view of the retreat at twin circle 36 is a larger aerial photograph of the entire area of that portion of sanford. 37 is a large aerial of retreat at twin lakes. and 38 is a medical pending investigation picture of the scene. if admitted then 39 would be the time line we talked about. two other loose enters ends. one we talked about the judicial notice of the weather. we came up for more accurate one for 26 and that will be substituted, that is close to me but not in my hands. >> with that stipulated for state's exhibit 213? so as soon as you get it. trish, will you allow that to be substituted for the one you have? >> next one would be the same exact exhibited for the 27th of february. >> a composite state's exhibit or do you want the other one? >> we planted them separate so we would not mess them up. >> we'll substitute 213 for the new one and make the second one fo

for mr. zimmerman. attorney mark o'mara questioned the medical examiner on whether mr. zimmerman may have been hit more than once. >> i think he used a suggestion that if you hit yourself in the nose that it could be all one shot, correct? >> one blow. >> correct. >> you're not certainly suggesting that it was only one blow, correct? >> no, but with. >> he gets hit in the nose like this, just like that, but it does not go up here. so here is the first shot, and here is the second shot. how many is that? >> two. >> consistent with that picture? >> it could be. >> clearly, you don't know how mr. zimmerman was hit by mr. martin, correct? >> correct. >> so you're saying it's consistent with one, potentially, yes? >> yes. >> and it also is consistent with two, correct? >> if the way it was portrayed, yes. >> which you don't know. >> correct. >> so could you just say is it consistent with two as well? >> it could be, yes. >> mr. zimmerman has plead not guilty and claims he shot trayvon martin in self-defense. these questions about his injuries lie at the heart of this case. w

what does mr. zimmerman say? >> he says yes. >> and in your investigation, is there anything at all to suggest at that time that mr. zimmerman continued to follow mr. martin? >> at which point, sir? >> at the point that the officer said -- or the 911 -- nonemergency operator said we don't need you to do that and mr. zimmerman said okay. >> i would say yes, there was. >> and what evidence would you have? >> his end location. >> i'm sorry? >> his end location. the location where the incident ultimately ended. >> okay. so the fact that -- may i approach the witness, your honor? >> you may. >> for identification purposes i show the witness state's exhibit 139. because you know the event started where? >> the event as far as i'm concerned started off that map. >> okay. i'm talking about the physical altercation, i apologize. my understanding from -- what's your understanding as to when mr. zimmerman got to this area, what path he took? >> may i stand? >> please do. >> can you face forward? >> yes. my understanding and

mr. zimmerman's walk-through with police the morning after the killing. why it reveals apparent inconsistencies in his other accounts. much more on the compelling testimony from the sanford police investigator who questioned zimmerman the night of the tragedy. plus, how might the jury react to hearing mr. zimmerman talk about, quote, these guys in an interview played in court today. and remember, friend or foe, i want to know. send me your e-mails. reply al is coming. stay with us. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ elicious pringles stix. ♪ ♪ everything pops with pringles stix. [ crunch ] her long day of pick ups and drop offs begins with arthriti

zimmerman's account, that he, that mr. martin was over him, leaning forward, at the time he was sho shot. >> let's shift gears for a moment and talk about trayvon martin's -- the mechanics of the effect of trayvon martin receiving that shot, in terms of how long you believe he would have survived and how long, within that time, you believe he may have been conscious, and further, what, if anything, he could do voluntarily during the time he was conscious. whether he could talk or move or be physically active. you follow me? >> yes. there are three questions that you've brought up. number one is conscious -- is the able to move. that -- that is determined by the amount of oxygen in your brain. of which you have a reserve of 10 to 15 seconds. so even if i right now reach across, put my hand through your chest, grabbed your heart and ripped it out, you could stand there and talk to me for 10 to 15 seconds, or walk over to me. because the thing that's controlling your movement and ability to speak is the brain. and that has a

when i listened to the call and i heard mr. zimmerman mentioning mr. martin in the recording where he was facing him, my perception of that call at that time i sense stressed in his voice he was approaching him, looking at him. his hand was going forwatoward waistline. as he left, that tension diminished. that, to me, also re-enforced what i've already heard from mr. pollack and saw from reviewing the information in this case. he's not the confrontational one. he's not that "i'm going to get on you" type. when mr. martin ran, he's running, there's no immediate threat to him. his perception is he's taken off running, so he gets out, and that's where he is now trailing or following, i would say following the person, to see where they want because that's what he was doing for them. >> we're going to take a quick break from the testimony. again, this is dennis root. he is a former law enforcement officer, says he's an expert in the use of deadly force. another interesting line of questioning. i've got lisa bloom and john burress standing by. we'll go to br

he believed it to be mr. zimmerman and not his son. this is a tough position for the parents and query of whether it will be all that helpful to the jor. we'll bring you that testimony live as it happens. and when we do, we'll have expert analysis with high profile criminal cases and with mr. sarinno. jose ba ez who represented casy anthony and got her acquitted and chris sarinno, the legal trouble in which he may have found himself in connection with the case, he will join us with his scorecard in the trial and what he would do in this case whether or not george zimmerman's team shouldine think right now about putting george zimmerman on the stand. fox news alert in the growing unrest in egypt. the military there ared a 48 hour ultimatum for president morsi and opponents to figure out a resolution or the military will resolve the crisis. this as we are seeing massive protest in egypt biggest since president hosany was drin from power. we have chris, host of power play. chris, you in your power play piece today talk about the obama doc

zimmerman screaming, mr. zimmerman screaming 40 seconds, how do you explain to this jury that he couldn't even land a strike in defense of himself? >> object to that. calling for speculation. >> your honor, i'm going to -- >> you're asking for an explanation? >> i am. and the door i think has been opened as to potential analogies. >> overruled. >> can you restate the question again? i'm sorry. >> sure. can you explain to the jury a couple of facts. it was suggested it was mr. zimmerman screaming. you've now testified that mr. zimp mer man was not able to strike nary a blow on mr. martin. can you explain to the jury how that might have happened, how that occurred? >> well, if we were stating that he was the individual screaming, then we could conclude that with mr. martin on top of him, mr. martin was the aggressor. the strikes were being rained down and he, for lack of better words, was physically unable of responding, wanting someone to help him out of a bad situation. it's possible his hands were busy. mayb

we continue to cover the george zimmerman trial. on the stand is mr. zimmerman's best friend. lisa bloom is joining me in covering this. why is he being called as a prosecution witness? sit because he wrote the book "defending our friend the most hated man in america exploring zimmerman's time living with me and his wife? >> i'm waiting for some powerful moment that has not yet come. he is zimmerman's best friend, as you say. he even got in at the beginning of the testimony that he cares very much about george zimmerman, smiled rat hat hill. all the testimony he has given has been slanted towards george zimmerman. he has an interview with dr. phil. it may be that he gave a detailed version of the story relayed to him by george zimmerman and the prosecution will use that to show further inconsistencies in george zimmerman's story. >> we listen in to how this is going. >> you didn't put it in the book, correct? >> correct. >> he also told you that when he managed to get the -- his hand off of trayvon martin's hands off of his mouth, he had control of the wrist correct? >> to som

were you aware that mr. z-- mrs zimmerman was there for you as well if need be? >> yes, sir. >> did you then at some point shortly thereafter go to the homeowner's association and discuss the issue of the home invasion? >> i don't believe i went. my husband did. >> okay. and then in addition to your conversation with george zimmerman, did you talk to other people about what happened to you? >> yes. >> who was that? >> a couple of my neighbors. pete and chris. >> was this home invasion then something of a point of conversation because of the trauma you had with it? >> yes. >> as a matter of fact, did mr. zimmerman, after the homeowner's association that started the neighborhood watch, did he bring to you a lock to help you with the sliding glass door? >> yes, he did. >> did you consider that weird or unusual or strange? >> no, i was very appreciative. >> okay. were you made aware that there was an issue with problems with the sliding glass doors in your neighborhood? >> i don't believe so. >> was it actually how they got in the house? >> yes. >> so they actually c

. >> tell the jury the way mr. de la rionda and mr. zimmerman say it? >> it seemed to me like mr. della ron do was trying to highlight it, make it sound heightened. yet, i don't feel it was that way at all. i think it was more a statement, a comment. >> you mentioned that you have children? yes. i have two sons. >> their ages. >> 30 and 33. >> okay. in conversations with them, have you heard them use such words as, let me premise this, in a courtroom bound by the evidence the curse words, with euse the curse words, just so you know why, i'm questioning you about curse words, okay. have you -- >> yes, i have. >>. >> does that always connotate anger, ill will, spite? >> not at all. >> and do you think it did from listening to george zimmerman's voice in this recording? >> not at up a. >> you've heard the words and you closed your eyes. why did you close your eyes to listen to that tape? >> since i had been asked about the question and mr. de la rionda asked or said something about running, i was trying to listen very carefully to see if i could hear. and was it only by concentrating

george zimmerman, his testimony came after five of mr. zimmerman's friends took the stand. answered evidence of a key piece of evidence, the 911 call that captured someone screaming in the background. the defense argues trayvon martin initially told police that it was not his son's voice on that recording, and how that testimony began today was around that issue. >> after he played the tape, he basically just said do you recognize the voice? >> and what was your response? >> my response was simply i didn't tell him that -- i didn't tell them no, that wasn't trayvon. i kind of -- i think the chairs had wheels on them, and i kind of pushed away from the -- away from the table and just kind of shook my head and said i can't tell. >> so your words were i can't tell? >> something to that effect. but i never said no, that wasn't my son's voice. after listening to the tape for maybe 20 times, i said it was -- i knew that it was trayvon's voice. i didn't direct that towards any family members. >> but mr. martin's appearance also gave prosecutors a chance to let him share with the j

i can't opine on the innocence or guilt of mr. zimmerman. i was not on the jury, but i think what happened here could be a manifestation of that maxim. >> i want toss here with you and still talk about the jury. ultimately it is the interpretation of the law by the jury. it's what rules. so of course without changing the meaning or legal impact, should some laws be rewritten to make them easier to understand? >> potentially, and that's the age old question. there always is, as i said, are written by lawyers and committee well before the trial. each state has their own set of jury instructions, but then the lawyers, the prosecution and the defense in criminal cases, grapple over a negotiated overwording because somebody's life is at stake in criminal cases and every word matters. i think, however, that this judge, judge nelson, did a reasonable job taking the previously drafted jury instructions by the legal committee, which are on the books, and crafted them to apply to this case. again, i'd be very curious to see what question the jurors ha

zimmerman. >> okay. as to mr. martin, i don't want you to discuss anecdotal information you may have heard about but just focusing on his physical size, age, whatnot and to the extent you believe that was relevant in comparing the physical abilities, if you would give the jury your thoughts on that. >> well, looking at the physique, the overall size of a person is more telling about an individual than age. so in my review of it, there was nothing that indicated to me that mr. martin wasn't physically capable. you know, when i looked at his size and weight, they were comparable to -- i saw the photos of him -- he seemed to be overall in good physical health and physically fit. comparatively to mr. zimmerman who was in the process of losing weight. no question he gained great value in weight loss but he was not, from what i could see and understood from his physical descriptions, to be of physical prowess or physically fit. we have to focus, i even in reviewing the documentation provided, the emt reports and things

when the judge asked mr. zimmerman if he plans to testify. listen in. >> mr. zimmerman, sir, did you have -- i spoke with you this morning about your rights to testify if you want to and the fact that you do not have to testify either. the jury cannot consider that in their deliberations of whether you testify or not. did you have an opportunity to talk to your attorneys about whether or not you want to testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> do you need some more time to talk to your attorneys about that? >> no, your honor. >> okay. if you'll please just raise your right hand for one moment. >> do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you god. >> i do. >> mr. zimmerman, like i said before, you're aware during this trial you have the absolute right to remain silent. you do not have to say anything, do anything, or prove anything. is that correct? >> yes, your honor. >> and you also have the right to testify if you want to. do you understand that? >> yes, your honor. >> and i'

. >> and was mr. zimmerman doing something similar? >> yes. he was in the sales and i was processing. >> okay. did you guys become friends over the time that you work together? >> yes. >> did you maintain that friendship? >> yes. >> and is that friendship that brings you here today, is that correct? >> yes, it is. >> and i know that you were present or around during the time both preceding the event that brings us here and of course right after the event, correct? >> that's correct. >> what i'd like to do, houweve, today, is just focus your attention on one subject of that. that is the, we are calling the lawer 911 tape to identify to you that's the tape that has a voice in the foreground, turns out her name is miss lawer. voices in the background. or voice in the background. and then what we now know to be the gunshot that killed mr. martin. >> right. >> so before we get to that, tell me other the past few years how often would you and george zimmerman interact? >> we, we worked with each other every day. and then his wife and i were best fri

you're going to speak the truth good or bad for mr. zimmerman? >> correct. >> as far as that friendship you were contacted on the night this event happened? >> i was. >> offered your help when, i guess helped shelly with what she was going through? >> near hysterical? he was visiting her father's home at the time when she received a call from a neighbor from twin lakes and she immediately called me both of us got into our vehicle and arrived a twin lakes within about ten seconds of each other. >> how upset was she? >> hysterical. she had almost no information to go on because the neighbor that called had -- they had hung up so she couldn't get further updates as to george's health or status. i put my arm around her to keep her from blacking out, i guess. >> at that point she had gotten a phone call from somebody who said that george was involved in a shooting, correct? >> she told me that she got call that said george was involved in a shooting, in handcuffs and bloody. >> i want to bring something up while we're watching the testimony. i think i

zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> let's shift gears for a moment and talk about trayvon martin's -- the mechanics of the effect on trayvon martin receiving that shot in terms of how long you believed he would have survived and how long within that time you believe he may have been conscious and, further, what, if anything, he could do voluntarily during the he was conscious, whether he could talk or move or be physically active. do you follow me? >> yes. there are three questions that you've brought up. number one is the ability to move. that is determined by the amount of oxygen in your brain for which you have a reserve of 10 to 15 seconds. so even -- if i, right now, reached across and put my hand through your chest and grabbed your heart and ripped it out, you could stand there and talk to me for 10 to 15 seconds or walk over to me, because the thing that is controlling your movement and ability to speak is the brain and that has a reserve supply of 1

zimmerman was on top of mr. martinez -- >> objection, leading and mischaracterization of the facts. >> can i finish my question please? >> if it is a mischaracterization of the facts i need you to rephrase your question. >> it's not, your honor. >> that is for the jury to determine. >> she said she was looking out the window and that she believes she was looking at the individuals when the shot was fired. she said that at the time the shot was fired that mr. zimmerman was on top and that mr. martin was face down. is that possible given the forensic evidence that you know in this case? >> no, sir, it is not possible. >> mr. martin -- >> he was shot from the front. >> so would her statement have done you any good in this case? >> no, sir. >> in fact, that would be an example of how an eyewitness just gets it wrong. >> yes, sir. >> you did consider john goode's statement to the extent that he was the person -- >> objection, leading question. >> sustained. >> john goode testified trial that when he looked out his ba

. >> mr. donnelly, you recall i took a deposition of you back, i believe it was may 9th, maybe, of this year? correct? >> yes, sir. >> that sound about right? >> yes, sir. >> i think your wife was first, or maybe you were first -- >> my wife was first. >> as it should be. >> yes, sir. >> and we took yours and it was very brief. correct? >> yes, sir. >> you never mentioned anything about testifying about identifying the voice, or did you? >> i don't believe i did, sir. i don't believe it was asked. as i recall, everybody was hungry. >> so you think it was just short or you didn't mention anything about that? didn't i ask you what you were going to be testifying about? >> i don't believe -- i don'ter being asked if i was going to testify about it. at the time, well, through this whole thing, i really didn't want anything to do with the tape. >> rye. so what you're saying is after the deposition on may 9th, 2013, you said it was last saturday that you, on purpose, listened to the tape. right? >>

zimmerman screaming and it was mr. zimmerman screaming 40 seconds, how do you explain he couldn't land a strike in defense of himself? >> well -- >> i'll object. calls for speculation. >> you're asking for an explanation? >> i am. the door has been open for potentialities. >> overruled. >> can you restate the question? >> sure. can you explain to the jury i'm going to suggest it was mr. zimmerman screaming and you've testified he was not able to strike a blow on mr. martin. can you explain how that might have happened when that occurred? >> well, if you're saying that he's the individual screaming then we could conclude that with mr. martin on top of him mr. martin was the aggressor and strikes were being rained down and he was physically incapable of responding, screaming for help. wanting somebody to help him out of a bad situation and maybe he was pushing. i wasn't there so i can't say what his hands were doing. if you're the aggressor in the fight how can you be the aggressor and not hurt somebody. in this situatio

you have to show specific intent that mr. zimmerman intended toe attackto mr. martin because of s race. >> that is the tricky thing, because race was essentially ese taken out. difficult perhaps are to some te

the court is entitle inquire in to mr. zimmerman's -- >> on mr. zimmerman's -- >> i am asking your client a question, please, mr. west. >> i object to the court inquiring to mr. zimmerman about his decision whether or not to testify -- >> your objection is overruled. >> and then something you don't see every day. the judge literally walking out on attorney west while talking. >> court is in recess. i will give my ruling in the morning. i'll see you at 8:00 in the morning. court is in recess. >> it's 10:00 -- >> it's 9:56. court is in recess. thank you very much. with all due respect, we'll see you at 8:00 in the morning. >> i'm not physical able to keep up this pace much longer. it's 10:00 at night. we started this morning. we've had full days every day. weekends, depositions at night. >> the judge walked out. she was gone. all of this happened without the jury in the room. but with the defense closing argument tomorrow, could it have any impact on the outcome of the case? marcia clark, wow, what do you have to say about these exchanges? >> well,

but you questioned mr. zimmerman about whether or not he had followed mr. martin, correct? >> on our first interview? >> yes. >> i may have. i'd have to check the transcript. >> yeah, and i happen to have a partial transcript here. if i were to tell you that you said you reported a suspicious person, you said yes, sir. you said you followed him and he said yes, sir. >> yes, sir. >> did he acknowledge to you that he at least followed and kept an eye on martin, did he not? >> yes, did he. >> was that anything that concerned you? >> no, sir. >> you didn't at that point have the benefit of the nonemergency call where the operator asked two times in succession, what's he doing now or words to like effect? >> no, i had not. >> did it seem to you that the -- did you not have that -- i'm sorry, did you not have that benefit that have transcript? >> no, sir. >> okay. >> and you also asked him whether or not had he lost visual of the person, correct? >> i think i stated to him that he did. i was summarizing what i had known that he said already. >> because that had come from the sing

>> on mr. zimmerman's behalf -- >> i am asking your client questions. please, mr. west. >> i object o to the court inquiring mr. zimmerman as to his decision about whether or not to testify -- >> your objection is overruled. mr. zimmerman, i will give you more time, sir, to discuss this with your attorneys. thank you very much. >> joining is our legal panel diana tennis and bernie grib and ted williams. i'll tell you off the top, that judge was way out of line. the defense had not rested. had not nearly rested. what in the world was he badgering him for? way out of line. do you agree with me or disagree? she should have waited. >> i totally agree. and what you don't or may not realize is that was not the first time she inquired of george zimmerman regarding whether or not he was going to testify. this was the second time. and they still had two witnesses to go. she was on a tear to get this thing done. she didn't want to take another break later. she wanted to cover the colloquy then. and he may have said we don't think so -- >> dst not about appeasing a judge. she

>> on mr. zimmerman's behalf -- >> i am asking your client questions. please, mr. west. >> i object to the court inquiring of mr. zimmerman as to his decision about whether or not to testify -- >> your objection is overruled. mr. zimmerman, i will give you more time, sir, to discuss this with your attorneys. thank you very much. >>gretchen: is that in front of the jury. >>steve: what was she doing? stkpwroeup -- >>gretchen: was that in front of the jury? because that is amazing. >>brian: it is not a tough call for the defense not to call him. he's already on camera describing the whole scene and he sits down with sean hannity for about a half-hour. if you're the defense, unless the prosecution was extraordinarily effective in proving its case, you don't think about putting him on. >>steve: keep in mind she was asking him the question before the defense rested the case. it seems so crazy. greta van susteren has been in courtrooms for years. >>brian: not in trouble. she's a lawyer. >>steve: exactly. here's greta on the judge. >> let me tell you off the top that judge

george zimmerman. the injuries on the back of mr. zimmerman's head consistent with someone doing this onnan cement? >> i don't think so. >> how about this? how about someone resisting? those two lacerations, could those come from pushing down? >> i believe so. i believe it was a culmination of downward force, rather than from pushing or striking and clearly by the injuries to his face and that drip would drive him walk, his head striking hard into the concrete. >> why did the prosecutor -- wasn't that a prosecutor's prop? handed that to the defense. whose side was he on? >> ted was with me during the show last night, but it was a dummy in florida. >> get him, ted. >> if you are in court, do a demonstration, better do it, see how it plays out and better anticipate the other side will use it too. i'm sure the jury was interested. if the head is being slammed into the cement like that, the injuries will be much, much more. >> but the instruction that the jury will get, you don't have to have any injury. if i was a defense lawyer, juror

zimmerman not taking the >> mr. zimmerman not taking the stand. >> he will not testify. >> the defense in the george zimmerman trial may be ending its case. >> may we have an opportunity to speak, the case is not concluded. >> tempers flare. >> your objection is overruled. >> the attorney objected a couple of times to the court's only questions. >> you can't really object to the judge's only question. >> says zimmerman would have been at a physical disadvantage. >> and the comparison between the two individuals. >> he compared the physical fitness of the two men. >> compared the physical ability. >> that george zimmerman was no match for him. what are we going to see from the prosecution side? will there be redirect? >> you have never testified in a case like this. >> the defense in the george zimmerman trial rested today. >> then it will move to closing arguments. >> setting the stage for closing arguments which start tomorrow. >> after five days of testimony, the defense rested its case today in the second degree

zimmerman was hit by mr. martin, correct? >> correct. >> so you're saying it's consistent with one, potentially. yes? >> yes. >> and it also is consistent with two, correct? >> if the way it was portrayed, yes. >> which you don't know. >> correct. >> so could you just say, is it consistent with two as well? >> it could be, yes. >> okay. and it could be consistent with one. >> yes. >> okay. and it actually could be consistent with another couple hits with a palm or, as you said, another couple hits with the fist that just didn't leave visible injuries. >> yes. >> so you're certainly not telling this jury that trayvon martin only hit mr. zimmerman in the face one time. >> i'm just telling you what the injuries are and what it's consistent with. >> okay. did you notice in those pictures the cuts on mr. martin's knuckle on his left hand, both on the ring finger and our slight one on the pinky? >> okay. those are not cuts. those are abrasions. so -- because cut suggests sharp force injury. they're actually where the skin has rubbe

>> on mr. zimmerman's behalf -- >> i am asking your client questions. please, mr. west. >> i object to the court inquiring mr. zimmerman as to his decision about whether or not to testify -- >> your objection is overruled. mr. zimmerman, i will give you more time to discuss this with your attorneys. thank you very much. >> you smiled a little there, lisa. in fact, all of you smiled a little. a little testy there. let me start with you, lisa. what was all that about? that was a little strange for those of us that don't spend every day in courtrooms. >> practicing law is not for the faint of heart and it is not the job of the defense attorney to be nice and it is not the job of the judge to be nice. so she's trying to get this done. she's trying to ask the standard questions of a defendant when he elects not to testify. i think she was under the impression he was ready to answer those questions. and don west, i think was trying to say we're not ready. ask us a little later. everybody's doing their job. that's what i guess i'm smiling about. >> faith? >> what happened

>> your honor, on mr. zimmerman's behalf -- >> i'm asking your client questions. please, mr. west. >> i object to the court inquiring of mr. zimmerman as to his decision about whether or not to testify. >> your objection is overruled. mr. zimmerman, i will give you more time, sir, to discuss this with your attorneys. thank you very much. >> lisa, i thought attorneys were able to object with each other but objecting to a judge? >> right. that's just not done. however, don west is fighting for his client and god bless him. when we attorney are in the courtroom we are warriors for our clients, we are not potted plants. he couldn't get the last word out. i object to your inquiring at the time. yes, at close of the defense case, that's when this typically happens. the judge was asking an an unusual time and he wanted more time to go over it with his client. also a little bit of gamesmanship. you don't want the prosecution to know that you're not putting your client on the stand until the close of your case. they're trying to put it off until that time. >> mr. west also had somewha

and mr. zimmerman says "that doesn't even sound like me." you recall that? >> yes, sir. >> during parts of the interview you showed him some photographs. do you recall that? >> yes, i do, sir. >> you showed him a photograph of the victim's cell phone that was on the ground? >> i did. and you told him this might have been videotaped. were you bluffing to him, lying to him to get him to say something? >> yes, sir, i was. >> you also showed him photographs of the victim; is that correct? >> yes, i did. >> your honor, may have i a moment? >> you need a recess? >> yes. >> okay. court will be in recess for 15 minutes. ladies and gentlemen, put your notebooks down on the chair and follow deputy jarvis. >> let's take a step back and look at today's testimony so far. we've been in the middle of testimony from detective chris serino, the lead investigator, the second investigator to take the stand today. earlier we heard from detective doris singleton. she's the police officer who read zimmerman his rights the night of the shooting and she interviewed him first. the j

>> this is consistent with mr. zimmerman's account that he -- that mr. martin was over him leaning forward at the time he was shot. >> a top expert on gunshot wounds takes the stand and supports zimmerman's story, again. >> is this injury consistent with mr. zimmerman's head having impacted a sidewalk? >> yes, sir. >> and again. >> is this injury you see in this exhibit consistent with having been punched in the nose? >> yes, sir. >> the prosecution hit back and i'll break it down with the legal eagles and the man that defended casey anthony. how he thinks the defense team is dog. >> i want to bring in ashleigh banfield. so significant, wasn't it, the testimony of this man, dr. vincent di maio. >> reporter: of course. the lights on behind me, this is a see quested jury so they are getting as much done as fast as they can and accomplished so much with the witness you just talked about. dr. vincent di maio. heard of him? probably. he's like the grand dad of pathology, he was the medical examiner in beaux county in texas and made incredible arguments, so ma

i'm going to then move us up pretty quickly to the next interview with mr. zimmerman. before before you got to thatneck interview with mr. >>>man, tell the jury, if you would, what other actions you were doing as the investigating officer? >> from the beginning? >> yeah. we've sort of gone through the 26th, correct that, night. and we've talked about you had a dozen or so witness statements you'd already gathered on the 27th. and that we had the interview and the re-creation interview on the 27th. so moving us from that point forward. >> other than identifying trayvon himself and as far as my timeline as far as what i was doing as it pertains to george? >> yes, sir. >> the day after, after identifying -- well, on the day of the incident, i spent several hours attempting to identify trayvon and i spent most of the night doing that actually. and after identifying him, i had to go ahead and make arrangements to get him released. the interviews that were conducted in preparation for my next interview with george had to be listened to and compared to -- with the statement t

zimmerman's behalf. >> i am asking the client questions, please, mr. west. >> i object to the court inquiring of mr. zimmerman as to his decision on whether or not he will testify -- >> your objection is overruled. mr. zimmerman, i will give you more time, sir, to discuss this with your attorneys, thank you very much. >> and after that very strange interlude, about two hours later george zimmerman confirmed what most court observers already observed. >> did you now have time to discuss with your attorneys whether or not you will testify? >> yes, your honor. >> and i don't know to know what the discussions were, but have you made a decision, sir? >> yes. >> and what is your decision. >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify. >> joining me, lisa bloom, faith jenkins, and former criminal prosecutor and prosecutor, marcia clark. there are so many things -- >> i object to that question. >> am i allowed to ask questions -- >> let's get this straight, when the judge asks the question, you are supposed to answer that. >> i agree, but what were the defe