we will have more on nsa with glenn greenwald after the headlines. people were arrested north of los angeles wednesday night at a protest over the acquittal of george zimmerman. the rally comes ahead of nationwide justice for trayvon actions and over 100 cities this weekend. a federal appeals court has overruled a lower court's decision to block a controversial statute that authorized indefinite detention. last year, judge katherine forrest struck down a provision in the national defense act, or in daa, authorizing the imprisonment of anyone deemed a terrorism suspect anywhere in the world without charge or trial. a group has brought the case arguing the provision was so broad it could easily on their freedom of speech. on wednesday, a three-judge panel ruled the plaintiffs lacked proper standing to challenge the law and invalidated the injunction. the obama administration has won a court decision allowing the continued genitals searches of prisoners at guantÁnamo bay. federal judge royce lamberth ordered a halt to the caucus last week, really the s

nsa is not saying. the speculation is just about any of that and perhaps even more. >> drake says americans should be concerned about letting the government go too far in the tame of security. >> the only way for perfect security is perfect surveillance. >> that is george kaufman. that is what that would look like. >> drake is not alone in feeling that way. >> whatever you did electronically they could capture. >> bill worked at the nsa for nearly four decades starting as a data analyst in the days before desktop computers. after 9/11 the nsa fee bega bea warrantless surveillance program started by president bush. >> the telcoms providing billing data records of people in the united states calling people in the united states. my estimate was they were collecting on the order of 3 billion a day. >> 3 billion phone records. >> just internal to the country. >> in simple terms nsa is spying on americans inseidenberg of this country. >> that's correct. >> binney thought it was wrong and quit in protest. some

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the nsa does? his response is that we are americans. that they are there and paid for and they have an oath to the constitution to protect americans. how they go about that is whether we look at them in the spotlight now and why they are in the spotlight is a question of -- is that the right way to go about it. burrell, south carolina, high, russell. hello. host: please go ahead with your question or comment. caller: i would have to ask -- host: i apologize, there is too which break up in that community should. anthony? please let me get everything out there. ism not sure if the guest just misinformed. first let's discuss the cost, the $1.2 billion. sans, storage area networks. it easily costs $1 million. i would assume you have thousands of those. and that is before the course of the building, cooling, wiring, and everything else. , the fibers, the switches and the hard drives in the center. ,he number of characters whether it be hewlett-packard, ibm -- most of these are navy in -- basically with

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or nsa. in the 1950s, the spy center so secretive, the joke was the initials stood for no such agency. >> what did the president know and when did he know it? >> after watergate, however, people wanted to know what the spy agencies were really up to. in 1975, general lou allen became the first director of the nsa to testify publicly before congress. the agency, once so secretive, was exposed. the public learned that it was aven eavesdropping on messages into and out of country in response, in 1978, the federal government passed fisa, the foreign intelligence security act. they needed to get warrants before performing certain surveillance in the united states. the nsa adapted and moved on. with the fall of the soviet union, its mission seemed urgent to many, and the nsa lagged hunted in latest technology. as general michael hayden took chart in 1999, in an age of telecommunications breakthroughs, the nsa was becoming deaf. but 9/11 delivered a shock that was loud enough for everyone to hear. t

what makes these nsa revelations a significant? you have left being an investigation of -- investigative journalist. you work full-time for wikileaks. why has this revelation by wikileaks that has revealed, or is helping edward snowden, the that worked with the nsa, why are they so significant? >> this is the kind of data we are seeing, being collected for millions of people. not only the data from the telephone companies that snowden revealed in his first leak, but also data on the internet, the e-mail use. it will also give you a location because it gives a location with the ip address. who is where sending a message to whom . by putting this information with the metadata, you can paint a detailed picture of the life of the person without listening to the conversation or reading the messages create however, it has been said by experts, it is very hard to distinguish the actual metadata on e-mails, for example, and the actual messages. it has been revealed or confirmed they did not intentionally collect the content, but it is ther

plus, he might have stuff that the nsa doesn't know. so the more he keeps that information to himself to just between he and putin and the russian government, the better it is, i think for putin. >> john: i think you're right. were you surprised by mr. putin's defense of america? did it seem that he was having it post both ways, taking advantage of snowden. >> it was a perfect two-fer. you get to look good in front of the american people, and you get to keep the secrets at the same time, and not let the chinese to get the secrets. for mr. putin it seems like a no-loss gain. >> john: well, some critics, as you know, say mr. snowden is a felon. others include speaker boehner an feinstein call him a traitor. the man who leaked the papers call him a whistle blower. at this point in this long process how do you evaluate what mr. snowden is doing? >> by leaking the fact that the nsa is secretly gathering everybody's phone records on a daily basis millions and millions of innocent people data mining them and storing them without anybody's know

what makes these nsa revelations a significant? you have left being an investigation of -- investigative journalist. you work full-time for wikileaks. why has this revelation by wikileaks that has revealed, or is helping edward snowden, the that worked with the nsa, why are they so significant? this is the kind of data we are seeing, being collected for millions of people. not only the data from the telephone companies that snowden revealed in his first leak, but also data on the internet, the e-mail use. it will also give you a location because it gives a location with the ip address. who is where sending a message to whom . by putting this information with the metadata, you can paint a detailed picture of the life of the person without listening to the conversation or reading the messages create however, it has been said by experts, it is very hard to distinguish the actual metadata on e-mails, for example, and the actual messages. it has been revealed or confirmed they did not intentionally collect the content, but it is there.

,he latest nsa spying issue another headline today, u.s. postal service now under scrutiny for a surveillance program of its own. they have been carrying out and mail isolation control and tracking program which photographs every piece of mail in its system, the contents never read without a warrant, but they allow investigators to other key information, including names, addresses, postmarked locations, information that was used to nab the individual who sent ricin-laced letters to president obama and mayor bloomberg. owner found out that he was being monitored when a letter was accidentally sent to him. >> there is a journalist in new york, and he argues the revelations about the surveillance tape go far beyond the specific revelations enabled by the documents that he disclosed, and are reporting instead that he complete refocused world one global attention on the abuses of the surveillance state. not just that article about the post that you mentioned about the court, there are articles about how the french are surveiling their own citize

we're talking about the nsa. it troubles me, the extent of their spying on us and now even on foreign nations. and also troubles me that the director of intelligence, james proper he committed perjury. he lied to members of the u.s. senate. particularly senator ron wyden. we'll talk about that when we come back here on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. cenk off air>>> alright in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the m

analysts, low level one, not just those who work for the nsa but private contractors like mr.

the nsa, they have trillions of phone calls in their database that they have collected. they are simple screens like the ones that supermarket clerks use, they have to enter an e-mail address or ip address and

but these rogue ramps at nsa have made -- these programs at nsa have made a crucial contribution to that success over the last decade. it seems to me we would be fool hardy to toss them away as some would want to do. i think this amendment strikes the right approach. i also believe that the "wall street journal" makes a good point when it says the last thing congress should do is kill a program in a rush to honor the reckless claims of mr. snowden and his apologist. >> the time is expired. does the gentleman from indiana wish any time? i'm sorry, it is back to mr. pompeo. the gentleman from kansas is recognized. >> i would like to yield three minutes or as much time as he would like, the general one >> the gentleman is working as for three minutes. >> thank you. first, i rise in support of the pompeo amendment. this amendment reaffirms in america, privacy and security must coexist together. this amendment states that in no uncertain terms, the government can not use section 702 of the foreign intelligence act to target americans for surveillance. this summit also reaffirms that the phone

so i say the jury's out on the nsa. government does plenty of other things that free people are right to be furious about. and we'll keep reporting on them. that's our show. thanks for watching. and now here is my friend, the governor. >>> tonight on" huckabee" edward snowden's been charged with espionage and called a traitor. but now that the russians are playing hardball he's not that big a deal? >> i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker. >> why is the rest of the world defying the leader of the free world? >> our enemies have absolutely no respect for us. >> and the senate passes immigration reform. >> 40,000 border patrol agents, $4 billion of technology backing them up, 700 miles offense completed. >> i.c.e. agents are not satisfied. tonight their unifor leader explains w

also, more than 30 years at the nsa where he was awarded the nsa second highest honor. suspected of leaking to the new york times. revealing the extent to which the nsa probes the private lives of american citizens. security was revoked. he and his family were subjected to the embarrassment of a day-long raid of their home and he hasn't had a job in the six years since. >> to my knowledge, u.s.a. today broke this part of the story. in july the 7th issue, for those that may be interested. question, so are these three american public servants, or are they public traders, do you think? susan. >> i think it changes the story. instead of everybody -- it changes the story about snowden who is in the news. hearing about these whistle blowers, you get the picture about why snowden felt like talking to someone and getting it all over the press. because it wasn't being handled the right way when people were trying to come forward. do the thing the right way. look what happened. they had their homes raided. they lost their freedoms. they lost their jobs. the question it raises, wh

let's focus on what the nsa is doing. do we really want what senator ron wyden from oregon called and senator mark udall from colorado, they're the only two people now that i know of in the senate, who are raising any questions about this massive collection of data. senator ron wyden called it, you know, what was the word he used? maybe gross invasion of american's privacy. this is what we ought to be look at. instead, we're ignoring what nsa is doing and playing this game about where edward snowden happens to be. as if he would stowaway on a president's plane. and just one final thing lisa, other people on twitter made this comment as well. i mean -- nobody supported barack obama more than i did. through the first four years and through this presidency. and i'm at that white house every day finding out what he's doing and giving him as much support as i can but that doesn't mean i'm a rubber stamp for everything he does. we cannot be as liberals and progressives if one of our own does something we don't agree with and we

so i say the jury's out on the nsa. government does plenty of other things that free people are right to be furious about. and we'll keep reporting on them. that's our show. thanks for watching. thank you for watching. ♪. >> i'm john roberts in for chris wallace, immigration reform faces an uncertain road in the house after it sails through the senate. >> the yeas are 68 the nay are 32. >> we're getting right with the law. >> we're joined by two members who helped draft the bill. john mccain and charles schumer together only on fox news sunday. then we'll example prospects in the republican led house. >> we're not going to bring up the senate bill. we're going to do it in our own way because we wanted to make sure we get the stuff right. >> we'll discuss

trespassing" "no nsa signs. guest: you are seeing the public right to know side of the equation and how important that is. whistleblowing is for our government to fully egg knowledge its importance in the detection of crimes and detection and fraud and create safe and effective channels for people like snowden and others to raise these concerns not just in secret but in a manner that the american people can learn about them. that is the role of the citizens today, to look at these cases and say, we have to make sure these whistleblowers have a safe mechanism. how do you judge manning or snowden? why are we judging manning and snowden? in some ways they are victims. they sought in justice. they just did what they did injustice. for taxe effective laws fraud, for other areas. the safeot enact harbors and provisions across- the-board and especially in the area of intelligence. why does no one judge them? why is there no accountability for those who created the framework that have forced people to become leakers? ho

whatever nsa wants to do. whatever the government wants to do to spy on us. we don't care because we've got the war on terror and we're willing to sacrifice our privacy. that's wrong. and i think that's turning around. very very significant. yesterday in the house of representatives, it was an amendment to block nsa from keeping records of all of our telephone calls. and it lost that amendment did but very, very close. the white house -- the republican leadership in the house and the democratic leadership in the house all lobbying against this amendment and they finally beat it by only 217-205. and what happened on this is the liberal democrats led by john conyers, keith ellison, donna edwards and others, they joined up with the tea party republicans, led by like ted poe from texas and justin amash from michigan. and the left and the right together said no, there will have to be some limits on this. joined forces and sent a strong message to the white house and to the american people. they almost stopped that

. >> when you all grandma in braska the nsa knows. john: the president says you have nothing to worry about. >>>> nobody is listening to your telephone calls. john: government officials do like. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all? >> no. john: my fellow lertarians are mad at me. they say, i am not angry enough. >> you know, i don't think this is john stossel. i thinit is an impostor. john: i'm angrier than she is >> i don't mind. it's not like it will be on tmz. john: big brother and privacy. that's our show tonight. -7♪ >> and now john stossel. ♪ john: 65ears ago, that novel struck a chord. ople feared the future would bring government spying on us through telescreens that were erywhere, even in our bedrooms. big brother was watching. when computers became popular people feared that the internet would become government's way of controlling s. we libertarians said, no, the opposite is true. the internet and personal computer revolution is have freed us from all kinds of governnt contro. it did, but lately we learn abo

i was at the nsa just last week. spent a couple hours out there with high and low level nsa officials. what i have been assured of is there is no capability at nsa for anyone without a court order to listen to any telephone conversation or to monitor any e-mail. in fact we don't monitor e-mails. that's what kind of assures me that what the reporting is is not correct. because no e-mails are monitored now. they used to be, but that stopped two or three years ago. so i feel confident that -- that there may have been some abuse, but if it was, it was pure accidental. >> senator durbin, do you believe that, and second, talk about the vote referenced. the close vote in the house this week where the nsa collection program survived. but democratic colleagues are pushing to end it as well, where do you stand on that? >> this was an amazing vote. we came within six votes of challenging an intelligence operation. that doesn't happen very often. hardly at all. it's an indication of a healthy democracy where the oversight of con

but these rogue ramps at nsa have made -- these programs at nsa have made a crucial contribution to that success over the last decade. it seems to me we would be full hearty to toss them away as some would want to do. i think this amendment strikes the right approach. i also believe that the wall street journal makes a good point when it says the last thing congress should do is kill a program in a rush to honor the reckless claims of mr. snowden and his apologist. >> the time is expired. does the gentleman from indiana i'm sorry, it it is back to mr. pompeo. the gentleman from kansas is recognized.>> i would like to yield three minutes or is made -- or as much time as he would like, the general one for maryland, mr. rather's burger. >> the gentleman is working as for three minutes. >> thank you. first, i rise in support of the pompeo amendment. this amendment reaffirms in america, privacy and security must coexist together. this minute states that in no uncertain terms, the government can not use section 72 of the foreign intelligence act to target americans for this summit also reaffir

the report claims that nsa has a program caused key score. it's not supposed to be used domestically on americans, but the guardian says it could be without any prior warrant necessary, your private correspondent, political views, health records, all of it could be in a database. the news broke as top intelligence officials were grilled today about why they need such programs to keep us safe. >> the phone records of all of us in this room reside in an nsa database. strong words this morning as members of the senate judiciary committee trying to understand just how the national security agency could know so much about private citizens and still go unchecked. >>> based on a secret interpretation of the statute that does not authorize this kind of bulk collection. so what's going to be next? when is enough enough? >> just ten minutes price -- glenn greenwald of "the guardian" broke another story, this one with the catchy headline nsa tool collects nearly everything a user does on the internet. it's called "keyscore." it's a program used by the n

more abouttalking the nsa leak, the nsa programs, and the use of metadata in our next segment of "the washington journal." those jobp today are numbers, expected out at 8:30 this morning. here is a headline from today's "financial times." likely to show a solid rise." when we get those numbers, we will get them to you as soon as possible, right around 8:30. we still have about 10 minutes left of this segment, talking about urban versus rural america and who gets more attention from congress. allen is up next from brownsville, texas, on our republican line. good morning. caller: it was a good issue what the other gentleman was ringing up, about all these foods being modified. genetically modified -- the other gentleman was bringing up, about all these foods being modified, genetically modified. low class, middle class area, so you can see a lot of people here are on food steps -- on food stamps, and that is when the government steps in here. host: do you think urban america or rural america is overrepresented in terms of how much attention they get from congress, whether it be money or

i was at the nsa just last week. spent a couple hours out there with high and low level nsa officials.

snowden could it continues at the spy nsa. at the spy nsa. it continues at the spy nsa. okay. ♪ ♪ young men, there's no place you can go ♪ ♪ i said young man since your name starts with snow ♪ ♪ you can't stay there and then russia won't find any way to have a good time ♪ ♪ it's time to quit as a spy nsa ♪ ♪ it's time to start with your trial nsa ♪ ♪ they take everything you have said on the phone, you can hang up and wait for your drone ♪ ♪ spy nsa ♪ ♪ it's time to start with your trial ♪ >> stephanie: thank you, rocky mountain mike. [ applause ] oh golly. by the way -- [ ♪ "nbc nightly news" ♪ ] you know what? still some of the ex-gay activists out there. i thought they had all closed up shop. >> barbarians need to be disciplined. >> stephanie: apparently there are still many who need to be disciplined. ex-guy activists are certain that kennedy and kagan are on the down low. >> does he have experience with them? >> stephanie: well, this just in. president obama addresses kennedy and kagan are on the down low meaning gay but you kno

edward snowden, wanted because he spilled the beans on what the nsa is doing, does the first amendment protect him? >> know because the first amendment does not say that every individual has a right to decide which laws he will obey and which ones he will not. if he wants to disobey, we have a historic and heroic example of the civil rights movement, which came up with the idea of civil this obedience. if he had stayed in the country and made his case, he went to hong kong, he is in moscow, who the hell knows. these are not the friends of liberty. i am not sure he is speaking on behalf of the first amendment or anything. i'm not sure what he is speaking on behalf of that i can assure you as he carried in hong kong, everything in his computers were scooped up by the secret services of the chinese and russians. im not sure that is a friend of liberty. >> there are limits to the first amendment. >> it is not a suicide pact. you can't go out and tell the nation's secrets to our enemies and do it willfully. but it is amazing how much you can do. there are some limits but there is a lot of f

with high and low level nsa officials. what i have been assured of is there is no capability at nsa for anyone without a court order to listen to any telephone conversation or to monitor any e-mail. in fact we don't monitor e-mails. that's what kind of assures me that what the reporting is is not correct. because no e-mails are monitored now. they used to be, but that stopped two or three years ago. so i feel confident that -- that there may have been some abuse, but if it was, it was pure accidental.

and the nsa has wildly exceeded the scope of the legal limits that the law allows.

. >>> nsa director general keith alexander made an emergency visit to capitol hill urging lawmakers to reject an amendment to a defense bill to end the phone records program. the obama administration is warning the nation would be at risk of more terrorism if it stops the nsa's massive collection of personal phone records. >>> former new york congressman anthony weiner is apologizing again for sending more explicit photos and messages. this time, he says he is refusing to quit in his race for mayor. >> there is no question that what i did is wrong. >> i have forgiven him. i believe in him. and as we have said from the beginning, we are moving forward. >> weiner reportedly promised a

this one with the catchy headline nsa tool collects nearly everything a user does on the internet. it's called "keyscore." it's a program used by the nsa to collect all internet activity everything they can collect, store it, and allow their low-level analysts with access to terminals to search what it is they want and fit out what your e-mails say, what google search terms you entered, and pretty much anything else

why do you hate this nsa surveillance program? to be clear, the program we're talking about is not the program that was revealed today. the program that my amendment dealt with was the collection of telephone records. and what the government was doing through the nsa was collecting the phone records and is collecting the phone records on a daily basis of every single american in the country. without any suspicion. and that violates the fourth amendment. you have to have reasonableness to go after people's records, you have to have problem aebl cause and you need a warrant and right now they're collecting phone records of everyone rather than just those who are under suspicion, which is how the patriot act was intended to be. >> let's let congresswoman harmen respond. you used to be on the intelligence committee. >> i was the ranking democrat on the intelligence committee and i served on that committee for eight years and i was very involved as these programs begin shortly after 9/11, when all of us were worried about plots against

the cia and fbi and nsa and all the other agencies. it took me about a year to complete a decent catalogue of the government entities and corporate entities that work in this world. >> narrator: they discovered they were the only people in the country collecting such detailed information. the only way they could verify any of it was to go there in person, hundreds of secret locations hiding in plain sight in office parks. >> priest: this is a gate to... to the nsa? >> lane: there's a government facility back in there. you'll see it better after we turn down this road. >> narrator: inside buildings like these, they launch drone strikes, gather and spread secret information, engage in cyber conflict. >> lane: you've got titan in here. csc is in one of these buildings. general dynamics. >> priest: so you really have the big mega-firms, the giants of this whole industry here: northrup grumman, boeing... >> lane: with a security station here at the front where they... they check out the cars and look underneath. >> priest: yeah, that... so

petition process to the nsa director, general alexander. the nsa is subject to the administrative procedures act, and when it engages in a substantial change in agency practice it actually has an obligation to notify the public of it determination. now, of course, there's certain rules. almost unique rules that apply to the nsa, and we understand that. but that doesn't get the agency out from under its fundamental responsibility to be accountable to the public and as we did with the department of homeland security, when they made the decision to deploy the airport body scanners for primary screening, and that challenge was ultimately successful in the d.c. circuit, we think on a similar basis the national security agency should give the public the opportunity to comment on this domestic surveillance program. we have also asked the federal communications commission to determine whether verizon may have violated section 222 of the communications act when it turned over the customer records to the national security agency. the fcc plays a crit

nsa. jeff joins us now. congressman cummings how do you propose to define the nsa? >> thank you for having me on, charles. what we are going to have is the department of defense appropriations bill that will define the nsa's collection of american records, targeted at that which is unconstitutional. >> when these agencies get money, all funding, you can actually go and say this particular part of your operation you can no longer do or we will no longer fund the. >> that is right, the language is tailored to prohibit them from using us for that particular purpose. charles: can we say legally do what they have done is unconstitutional? anyone that i know believes it is unconstitutional. it can we say it is an improvement and therefore we are going to defunded? >> yes, it is unconstitutional. they are going into the phone records of every american in the united states. there is no precedent in history. sometimes they like to set a court case that is not really on point at all but is clearly i

edward snowden, wanted because he spilled the beans on what the nsa is doing, does the first amendment protect him? >> know because the first amendment does not say that every individual has a right to decide which laws he will obey and which ones he will not. if he wants to disobey, we have a historic and heroic example of the civil rights movement, which came up with the idea of civil this obedience. if he had stayed in the country and made his case, he went to hong kong, he is in moscow, who the hell knows. these are not the friends of liberty. i am not sure he is speaking on behalf of the first amendment or anything. i'm not sure what he is speaking on behalf of that i can assure you as he carried in hong kong, everything in his computers were scooped up by the secret services of the chinese and russians. im not sure that is a friend of liberty. >> there are limits to the first amendment. >> it is not a suicide pact. you can't go out and tell the nation's secrets to our enemies and do it willfully. but it is amazing how much you can do. there is a lot of freedom. we are constantly

we need outside auditing of what the nsa has been doing all of these years. the nsa at present doesn't have someone who is not part of their overall program examine whether they are complying that they not look at the contents of information unless they have reasonable suspicion or otherwise and why would we expect an agency to call its own people to account? >> in a letter to the justice department, to the obama administration you describe what your son did as civil disobedience. some say civil disobedience is accepting the ramifications of your actions, of the decision, of taking the punishment. why do you see this as civil disobedience. >> first of all, i think he is accepting the consequences. if you look at his 12-minute video and what he said. he is not living a comfortable life at this point. he is an american and loves his country. i know my son and that he loves his country. he thought the mern people needed to be aware of what their government was doing to them, spying on them. >> i would interject with the issue of civil disobedience. anderson, if

as a source behind the nsa leaks. snowden revealed the u.s. government forced verizon to hand over the phone records of millions of americans. he also revealed a secret program revealed by the nsa, called prism. he gave this interview to the guardian. >> i think the public is owed an explanation of the motivations behind the people who make these disclosures that are outside of the democratic model. >> snowden didn't hide his identity, but he did hide his exact location. revealing only that he was somewhere in hong kong and hinted about a life on the run. >> i could rendered by the cia. i could have people come after me, and that's a fear i'll live under for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be. >> reaction to snowden's public revelations was mixed. a hero to some, but to others -- >> this guy is a trader, a defector, he's not a hero. >> it's a giant violation of the law. >> i think he's a trader. >> five days after snowden's identity was revealed. he was charged with espionage. days later, snowden with the help of wikileaks ma

>> let me ask the nsa. not. are we have not done that. as indicated earlier, the director of nsa has given an affirmation to the congress that before such time we were to reconsider that we would come back to the congress. >> going back to

the nsa's wholesale gathering of u.s. on records was enabled by previously unknown decision by the foreign intelligence surveillance act court. under the patriot act, businesses can be forced to turn over customer's records of investigators can prove they are "relevant to an authorized investigation care co. the wall street journal reports in a series of order stating back to the mid-2000s, the fisa court, , endorsed an expansion of the word relevant to mean an entire database of records on millions of people. in its twows, this leading critics of nsa surveillance, ron wyden and mark udall, confirmed the expansion of what constitutes relevant is what they've meant a long accusing the government of a secret interpretation of the patriot act. protests were held across the u.s. on the fourth of july to protest war lesson sweeping government surveillance. called by a new group restore the fourth, a reference to the constitutional protection against illegal search and seizure. hundreds turned out in dozens of cities including

and the nsa has wildly exceeded the scope of the legal limits that the law allows. there are all sorts of admissions, including this week in a letter to senator wyden that it exceeded the legal authority it acknowledges it has. and they write it off to inadvertent key strokes. the realy issue is they have de this in complete secrecy. nobody monitors who they're eavesdropping on.