>> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. good news from the big apple, murders are down 30% from all-time low. fewest shootings in two decades. despite the progress, new york city police department has come under fire for stop question and frisk policy which opponents say is tantamount to racial profiling. last month they passed two bills that could restrain the controversial program. my guest says this week will be a set back for the city. ray kelly, new york city police commissioner. tell us how stop, question and frisk works and why you do it? >> it's a practice that is integral to policing in america. police officers are authorized by statute and also validated by supreme court decision in 1968. they are authorized to stop and question someone who is a reasonably believed has committed is committing or is about to commit a crime. it is fundamental to policing that officers are given the right to inquire as to what is going on. people lump stop, question and frisk. in new york city half the stops result in the frisk. what

>> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. the obama administration said this week it will postpone a key element of obamacare until 2016 to give another year to provide health insurance coverage. individual mandate is still on track for 2014 and new wall street analysis says healthy consumers could see their insurance rates double maybe even triple set for the exchanges set to open october 1st. joining us is columnist, dan henninger. joe rago and washington columnist kim strassel. you have been predicting this for some time. should we welcome this delay? >> i think there are a few things. this indicates that there is an apparatus so complex they can't even enforce it themselves. i also think it's an admission that the critics were right. a lot of low wage businesses, restaurants, hospitality, growing businesses starting to calm themselves 49ers. >> paul: 50 employee maximum? >> right. it's leading to fewer workers. >> paul: the way it would work if you have more than 50 employees and you don't provide health insurance you a h

man named rand paul. it was his role in the rand paul senate campaign that led people curious about mr. hightower to troll through his presence on myspace. and there it was soon this covered in addition to the tough guy band photos of commander, mr. hightower's site also included comments like this. posted on his myspace page. "happy "n" word day." that's in celebration of martin luther king jr. day that year. happy "n" word day posted alongside this photo on the myspace page of rand paul's senate campaign spokesperson. this stuff was reportedly posted there for a couple of years and was still just there waiting to be discovered once rand paul picked this guy to be the public face of his campaign for u.s. senate. once this was reported out, mr. hightower had to resign as spokesman for the senate campaign. that was a campaign rand paul went on to win. that embarrassment happened back in 2009, and part of the reason i think that issue stuck more than it might have with anybody else in politics is because th

don't mention paul mccartney. >> well, i was talking to paul about it. sir paul. i think it actually brings to issue this point which is is sex addiction something that should disqualify something that should be made? they will be like, it is no different than alcoholism. and it should. if you can't hold a job as a manager at hooter's you can't hold a job as mayor. >> there is no evidence he ever had sex. >> but there is evidence he is offered things. he is offered jobs. >> who are we to judge a man who has made the same mistake 80,000 times? is it our place to judge? he says i am a person -- i am a man with a sex addiction. no. you are a sex addiction with a man. that's what you are. you have no ability to control the compulsion. >> he sent another d-pic. after all of that? that is a problem. that is not normal. >> it was a much better angle though. >> i am telling you what, seriously after he had this press conference he went into the bathroom and sent another one. >> and then he said i told you we were -- >> what america doesn't want to understand is some of th

>> paul: this week on the journal editor yam report. waste and politics and the zimmerman verdict as civil rights charges, president obama weighs in the controversy in very personal terms. remember those rogue cincinnati irs agents. one involved an obama appointee. war on walmart and latest push for higher wages could hurt the very workers it claims to help. ♪ ♪ >> freeway von martin could have been me 35 years ago. there are very few african-american men who haven't had the experience of being followed when they are in shopping stores. that includes me. if you ask african-american men who haven't had the experience walking across the street and locks click on the doors of cars. >> paul: that was president obama on friday speaking in very personal terms about race in the wake of george zimmerman's acquittal in the case of trayvon martin. as protests continued across the country and pressure grows to bring federal civil rights charges against zimmerman. jason riley joins me more with reaction on the president. that could have been tr

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer the net will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on a porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage leadership agrees i think he got a fair shake he'd a won iowa out early to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron p

did i just sing with paul mccartney? >> (together) ♪ heaven, i'm in heaven and my heart beats so that i can hardly speak ♪ when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek ♪ (cheers and applause) that was very nice. i smell a hit. we've got all this equipment here. would you think about doing some music for us, please? (cheers and applause) >> stephen: i'd love to! >> stephen: it's an absolute joy a pleasure. look at that! (cheers and applause) "wings over america" c.d. reissue. we'll be right back with paul mccartney! come on! (cheers and appl ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ well, when i met you at the station ♪ you were standing with a bootleg in your hand ♪ i took you back to my little place ♪ for a taste of a multi-colored band ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi the night is young ♪ she'll be my funky little mama ♪ gonna rock it and we've only just begun ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi with the music on ♪ won't say bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye ♪ 'til the night has gone i'm gonna do it to you â

did i just sing with paul mccartney? >> (together) ♪ heaven, i'm in heaven and my heart beats so that i can hardly speak ♪ when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek ♪ (cheers and applause) that was very nice. i smell a hit. we've got all this equipment here. would you think about doing some music for us, please? (cheers and applause) >> stephen: i'd love to! >> stephen: it's an absolute joy a pleasure. look at that! (cheers and applause) "wings over america" c.d. reissue. we'll be right back with paul mccartney! come on! (cheers and appl ®:3qóuóuü6 ,#e$sñ!l)á<í@0@h ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ well, when i met you at the station ♪ you were standing with a bootleg in your hand ♪ i took you back to my little place ♪ for a taste of a multi-colored band ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi the night is young ♪ she'll be my funky little mama ♪ gonna rock it and we've only just begun ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi with the music on ♪ won't say bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye ♪ 'til the nigh

man named rand paul. it was his role in the rand paul senate campaign that led people curious about mr. hightower to troll through his presence on myspace. and there it was soon this covered in addition to the tough guy band photos of commander, mr. hightower's site also included comments like this. posted on his myspace page. "happy "n" word day." that's in celebration of martin luther king jr. day that year. happy "n" word day posted alongside this photo on the myspace page of rand paul's senate campaign spokesperson. this stuff was reportedly posted there for a couple ojustarhere be discovered once rand paul picked this guy to be the public face of his campaign for u.s. senate. once this was reported out, mr. hightower had to resign as spokesman for the senate campaign. that was a campaign rand paul went on to win. that embarrassment happened back in 2009, and part of the reason i think that issue stuck more than it might have with anybody else in politics is because this all happened only about a year

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i would expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on the porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage leadership agrees i think he got a fair shake he to what i what i really need to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on a porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage peter schiff agrees i think he got a fair shake he'd a won iowa early to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron paul c

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on a porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage peter schiff agrees i think he got a fair shake he'd a won iowa early he to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron pau

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on a porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage peter said agree i think he got a fair shake he'd a won iowa out early to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron paul

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on a porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage leadership agrees i think he got a fair shake he to what i was out early to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron pau

that is where the paul family always goes for the money. but that is also the kind of approach in republican primary that leaves you in the end with nothing really to trade on at a convention. >> no, look, at the end of the someday, if you're running to be commander-in-chief in a difficult, dangerous complex world. talking about ending foreign aid for every country in the world just -- displays a stunning naivete about america's role in the world. and i think there is a consensus in both parties that that is the idea that is pretty far field from the main stream of american politics. rand paul's top strategic challenge is to the degree to have he is able to distance himself from his father. but if he is going to run as a diet coke version of the old man he is going to have a very, very difficult time in a republican primary. he is trying to mainstream himself. he had a very difficult month with the wacko who was on his staff, the southern avenger, and if you're running for president you can't carry people like that with you in close proximi

did i just sing with paul mccartney? >> (together) ♪ heaven, i'm in heaven and my heart beats so that i can hardly speak ♪ when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek ♪ (cheers and applause) that was very nice. i smell a hit. we've got all this equipment here. would you think about doing some music for us, please? (cheers and applause) >> stephen: i'd love to! >> stephen: it's an absolute joy a pleasure. look at that! (cheers and applause) "wings over america" c.d. reissue. we'll be right back with paul mccartney! come on! (cheers and ap) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ well, when i met you at the station ♪ you were standing with a bootleg in your hand ♪ i took you back to my little place ♪ for a taste of a multi-colored band ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi the night is young ♪ she'll be my funky little mama ♪ gonna rock it and we've only just begun ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi with the music on ♪ won't say bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye ♪ 'til the night has gone i'm gonna do it to you â™

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron paul channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire aat a rocking chair out there on the porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage peter said agree i think he got a fair shake he to what i was a really key to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron p

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on the porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage peter said agree i think he got a fair shake he to what i what i really need to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the r

liberals love pope john paul xxiii. what pope francis is saying, let's honor and revere both men. >> reporter: a chance to unite the catholic church. shaken during john paul's reign and ever since by sex abuse and corruption scandals. corruption scandals. today at st. patrick's cathedral, john paul's impending canonization was welcome news. >> if there's anybody that kind of brought people together, it was pope john paul ii. >> exciting to have a saint that we knew. that we live through. >> reporter: the people's pope, now soon to become the people's saint. michelle franzen, nbc news, new york. >>> here in new york, the medical examiner identified the remains of a victim of the 9/11 attacks, almost 12 years later. jeffrey wahls, a new york fire department lieutenant from staten island. he was 37 when he died, leaving a wife and young son. his sister said the family thought about his death every day, and is taking the identity of his remains as a sign that he is okay. >>> up next, an honor for a brave man in boston. >>>

paul. launching this summer, ron paul tv, the three had-time presidential contender will be hitting the internet with a subscripti subscription-only network where the elder paul will "present news that would never be shown or discussed on more traditional news outlets." residents of planet paul, it is time to turn off the tv and turn on truth. >> coming soon -- ron paul takes the fight from washington. >> we see an opening now to really have an impact. >> and brings it to you through the powerful world of digital media. >> we are see egg the e-- seein end of an era. >> this is exciting. >> is it exciting for rand paul though? >> it is not that exciting for rand paul. who has big national ambitions. i actually interviewed him yesterday, not specifically about this but in the course of the interview i did happen to mention his dad and how they compared. he was clearly a little peefd by it. very polite, fielded the question but sort of deflected it by saying, look, i'm my own man, i'm a senato

and that was our tease paul scott reported. moving on to the latest efforts on capitol hill to close the detention facility at guantanamo bay while some reports indicate that a hunger strike there which is now lasted nearly six months is starting to slow down some members of the senate are ready to give up on closing gitmo so the senate judiciary committee held a hearing this afternoon on closing the facility and what implications that might have on our national security and our record of human rights artie's liz wald joined us earlier from capitol hill and i asked her if the senate seems finally willing to close the detention facility at guantanamo bay yeah i think so sam today was the first significant congressional hearing on closing guantanamo bay that we have heard since two thousand and nine of course president obama ran on the platform that he was going to shut this down of course of that has not happened but we did hear from the chairman and the chairman presiding over this committee today senator dick durbin and dick d

and then within a year of that, rand paul had him on staff on the payroll writing rand paul's book. and now that rand paul is getting asked about it, senator paul says the whole secessionist neoconfederacy thing was a youthful indiscretion which this 39-year-old put down months before rand paul hired him. that's apparently all you have to say. that's how rand paul is explaining that he's keeping this guy on with him. salary paid by the taxpayers. as he heads to purple state nevada this weekend to attend one of two conservative movement and republican party vegas events this weekend spotlighting the most ambitious republican federal officeholders in the nation alongside the nation's leading proponents of the theory that our country's first black president could not possibly be american, he must be secretly foreign, his presidency is illegitimate and it's a giant conspiracy. when republicans talk to each other about how to spend their time, especially in states like nevada where elections have been pretty close, where republicans conceivably could have a shot at being competitive in a

paul has a different take. new polls show rand paul is now leading in the republican primary field. >> ask bob about that. for 2016. do you believe -- two questions. do you believe they're putting their toe in the water for 2016, and what do you think the republican mindset will be if you had to prognosticate, will it be more conservative or libertarian when it comes to voting. >> strange libertarianism running in the republican party through dwight eisenhower, enormous split in '64, more libertarian forces taking over from the moderate conservative republicans. this is nothing new. it is becoming something brighter on the stage of politics because you have two people who are pretty good at what they do. haven't had a rand paul who is out and out libertarian in congress for a long time. so he raises questions which have been there a long time. >> duh. >> he was never taken seriously. this guy is taken seriously. >> we read, dana, is it going to be more conservative or libertarian, that's inaccurate. i think ran

i think that this is true of jean paul gaultier's work. i know that have been friends for a very long time. it is my honor to introduce both suzy menkes, fashion editor of the international herald tribune, and mr. jean paul gaultier. [applause] >> the love seat. [laughter] i just want to know, can you hear me? please shout loudly if you cannot. [laughter] yes or no, you can hear? >> somebody said no. >> mic people, can i be heard? should i start? ok, good. so before i introduced one of the funniest, wittiest, most amusing and funkiest designers that i know, i would like to start with something a little bit more serious. you know, in fashion, the reason that people laughed seem obvious when you see the exhibition of all it's incredible glory and excitement. but at the same time, there were real reasons why designers laughed, and one of them, when it comes to jean paul gaultier, is probably what is talked about least. it is the technique, the skill, the handwork, the knowledge. sometimes it gets buried underneath the fantasies of the close.

christie and paul continued that fight yesterday. >> i find it interesting that senator paul is saying -- accusing us of having gimme, gimme, gimme attitude towards federal spending. maybe senator paul could deal with that when he's trying to deal with the reduction of spending on the federal side, but i doubt he would because most washington politicians only care about bringing home the bacon so that they can get reelected. >> this is the king of bacon talking about bacon? he's making a big mistake picking a fight with other republicans because the republican party is shrinking in new england and the northeast part of our country. i'm the one trying to grow the country by talking about libertarian ideas of privacy and the internet. attacking me isn't helping the party. he's hurting the party. >> a poll out in iowa shows rand paul is out in front with 6%. christie is tied with jeb bush and paul ryan with 13. all within the margin of error. for any politicians, it doesn't make a lot of sense to attack chris christie. he's got approval rating in the 70s. he loves a fight. >> he does. >>

paul is understandably exhausted. captain roy knows that no matter what plan he comes up with, he'll need maximum effort from everybody involved including 11-year-old paul. >> at the time, he was getting real sleepy, so i talked to him and asked, do you play baseball? he said, oh yeah. he perked up. i said, you know how you are out there and it is hot and you are tired and your coach wants to give you a little more physical effort and things to push yourself? and that actually kind of perked him up a little bit more. >> captain roy runs through his options. none of their usual rescue techniques, pulley system, drilling, powerful air bags to separate rock, seem like they'd work in this situation. and just then, it hits him. >> i thought of wesson oil, give some lubrication. >> wessen oil, not exactly a technique you learn in rescue school, but he's trained to solve problem fast. so he dispatches people including paul's brother tommy, to come back with the popular vegetable oil. >> so we said, okay, we'll be right back.

paul, you made a great note. welcome, by the way. >> thanks for having me. >> made a great point yesterday is that you found that the s&p 500 is going around, what, 17 times trailing earnings, but we don't care about the past. we care about the future. on a forward looking basis, are stocks overvalued right now? >> well, i think a year from now if we're looking at a 15 hadn't 4 pe ratio, that's right in line with the historical average so i wouldn't be too worried about that. coming into the year one of our main themes was that valuation was at historically cheap levels. that's no longer working in the market's favor right now. we're a little overvalued and the s&p trailing 17 versus 15.3 but when you look at bull markets historically, they typically, there's only been four bull markets where the pe has peaked at a higher valuation than the current valuation and there's only been three bull markets where the multiple expansion has been lower than what we've seen in this current bull market so it's not a real nega

to rand paul's kentucky and other states. think of them as the gimme states, if you will, who take much more from the federal government than they ever pay for in federal tax revenue. for every dollar rand paul's kentucky sends to washington kentucky gets back $1.57. chris christie might be seeking the electoral votes of rand paul's gimme gimme state someday. so he will probably use a different line of defense against rand paul's gimme gimme gimme nonsense. joining me now, steve mcmahon, veteran democratic strategist and co-founder of purple strategies. steve, who are you betting on in this fight? >> i love it. i hope they go and they fight to a draw and they fight a very long time, 15 rounds. >> listen, i think rand paul has taken on something pretty big when he tries to fight with chris christie on this kind of thing within the republican party. >> yes. >> his father got exactly 8% of the delegates -- >> that's right. >> -- last time using the paul family vision of foreign policy and national security in the republican prim

paul will be signing books so feel free to talk to him after. paul is really a wonderful guy. on top of that he is a journalist who got his start in journalism after a career manufacturing which he said in his bio, which i didn't know and was a reporter at the palm beach post in florida where he came across a group of marines who knew bill manchester the famous author of the first two "the last lion" and as a as a feature writer got to know this group in got to know paul manchester and the rest is history literally because paul went on to take over this book project and write the third volume which has been out for months and is doing very well. i've had a i have had a chance to read it and it's amazing book if you haven't. so, paul welcome and tell us how this project started and how it came about. >> thank you. the project began 60 odd years ago as a little boy. i always get confused over that question, where did it begin because it's kind of nebulous but i would say it began with those six marines in 1996 who served on okinawa with bill manchester. they were going to have a

this weekend, rand paul miklaszewskied governor chris christie for saying as paul put it, gimme, give me all my hurricane sandy money now. he's playing with fire. let me finish tonight with the meeting taking place between israeli and palestinian officials right here in the american capital. final status of negotiation pchz who could have believed? this is "hardball." the place for politics. >>> well, guess who's coming to dinner or lunch? actually? hillary clinton had lunch with president obama today at the white house. the lunch was closed to the press, but aides say the president invited his former secretary of state and the lunch was a friendly chance to "catch up." there they are together outside. a beautiful day today. hillary clinton is having breakfast tomorrow with vice president joe biden who may well be her chief rival should she decide to run for the nomination in 2016. we'll be right back. and that's why we use angie's list. online or on the phone, we help you hire right the first time with honest reviews on over 720 local services. i want it done right. i don't want to h

you just went and said eat rand paul for lunch. people just can't stay away from those chris christie lines. richard, would it have been smart, though, for governor christie to ignore senator paul's attacks, to try not to have them appear as a legitimate threat? >> absolutely not. i think he consciously wants to draw a line and to prove that you can have a have a moderate and it's different than it was 10, 20s years ago. but you can have a moderate play and he will bring up that he will throw his arm around president obama if that's in the best interest for new jersey and take on all comers in the g.o.p. if they will take issue with that. he wants to have this fight now. he feels he's got enough of a -- certainly a very big cushion here to win, comfortably in the race for new jersey g gubernatorial race he will take this on right now. he wants to get some of this stuff out of the way if he's serious about 016. he will take the conservative planks on social issues like gay marriage in new jersey. he will think that that won't hurt h

of rand paul going forward. chris christie has an intangible appeal of people who don't know him yet. he speaks people's language, and that always helps in retail politics. >> it's interesting, you don't find appeal in either of these two people. >> there is a veil of i'm a regular guy. i call people idiots and dummies, i'm one of you guys, but in reality he does the same work that other politicians to do these things. that was one of the hurdles that he has to get beyond his weight problem. he addressed openly. i'm just a regular guy. that appeal goes for him. but at the end-- >> jayar, jayar, that's what helps him in a way with republicans because he is a republican. he can appeal to people who aren't. but when you look at what this guy does he is a republican. he can go into south carolina and say, i lost some weight, i joked about it. look what i did, i'm fine. look at how i cut the budget, and they like that. >> and squashed gay marriage. >> right, yes. >> ' >> he's a brooks brother rioter in a suit. >> we'

that was artie's paul scott reporting. moving on to the latest efforts on capitol hill to close the detention facility at guantanamo bay while some reports indicate that a hunger strike there which is now lasted nearly six months is starting to slow down some members of the senate aren't ready to give up on closing gitmo so the senate judiciary committee held a hearing this afternoon on closing the facility and what implications that might have on our national security and our record of human rights or tease liz always there and she joins me now hey liz based on what you heard today in the hearing is there's some will now in senate to close this detention facility and get no. yeah i think so sam today was the first significant congressional hearing on closing guantanamo bay that we have heard since two thousand and nine of course president obama ran on the platform that he was going to shut this down of course that that has not happened but we did hear from chairman the chairman presiding over this committee today senator

here is more with senator paul. [video clip] angers me to support regimes that put questions to death. -- that put christians to death. i say no more money to countries doing that. [applause] there is a war on christianity, not just from the liberal elites at home, but worldwide. your government, or more correctly you, are having to pay for it. things youof the have seen with rand paul is he made a big trip to israel in january. there were two purposes of the trip. one was to reassure the pro- israel cruddy does not share all of his father's views. the other purpose was to rally his evangelical christian base senator paul has appealed to christians. he talked about refusing to intervene in syria. he makes the point that christians would be at risk if assad fell. he is playing to multiple cross. one of those is the evangelical supporters. host: the next call is from spencer -- jeff. caller: you have touched on this a little bit. --er president of fish president bush, who declared himself the war president, you touche

and then within a year of that, rand paul had him on staff on the payroll writing rand paul's book. and now that rand paul is getting asked about it, senator paul says the whole secessionist neocon fconfederacy thing was a youthful indiscretion which this 39-year-old put down months before rand paul hired him. that's apparently all you have to say. that's how rand paul is explaining that he's keeping this guy on with him. salary paid by the taxpayers. as he heads to purple state nevada this weekend to attend one of two conservative movement and republican party vegas events this weekend spotlighting the most ambitious republican federal officeholders in the nation alongside the nation's leading proponents of the theory that our country's first black president could not possibly be american, he must be secretly foreign, his presidency is illegitimate and it's a giant conspiracy. when republicans talk to each other about how to spend their time, especially in states like nevada where elections have been pretty close, where republicans conceivably could have a shot at being competitive

i mean, rand paul i know what rand paul's politics are quite well. he's quite open about them. his father, he has much of the same politics as his father. his father is quite open about them. chris christie is not someone i think about in foreign policy at all. you have this great blog post, you cited an excerpt from a book, christie making a pilgrimage to see henry kissinger in 2011 when he is thinking about running, he said, i haven't given any deep thought to foreign policy. kissinger, don't worry about that, we can work with you on that. foreign policy is instinct, it's character. that's what foreign policy is. you make the point the interventionists find interventionists to cultivate and recruit. >> you care about foreign policy, you wake up in the morning, you're more serious than anybody in this room about foreign policy, why to you keep looking? not just chris christie with henry kissinger, it's sarah palin and the -- >> george w. bush. >> after he had become president. before that, it was john mccain. he was more experienced in foreign policy. they supplied an entire k

paul -- the city of st. paul raised the newell matter, another case. and this was the first time mr. perez had heard about this case. at that time, the city suggested -- the city of st. paul you suggested that it would drop its magner appeal if the department of justice did not intervene in newell, an unrelated, false claims act case in which a st. pull resident, mr. newell, had atled -- had alleged that the city of st. paul had not met its obligation to provide sufficient minority job-training programs despitesserting to h.u.d. that it was doing so. as i said, this gets a little complicated here. but at this point, the evidence further demonstrates that mr. perez acted with the highest integrity and ethics. after this became known to him, mr. perez consult the two ethics and professional responsibility experts at the department of justice. it was made clear to him that because the united states is a unitary being a terks the two matters could be considered toct as long as the civil division -- the civil division, which deals with false claim act matte

paul, what stands out to you as you listen to this juror? >> the fact she starts off with saying that testimony from the actual defendant would not have made a difference and i've been doing this a long time. i don't think i've ever heard a juror saying that before, but they were so convinced by the presentation, that's that what she believed and the fact she tied it to the insurance instructions that were given to them saying that if those same instructions were given, that it wouldn't have made a difference, so there is no issue of over charging. there's no issue about the child endangerment and what difference that would have made at least according to her, but to me listening to that, what that tells me from a lawyer's prospective. the lawyers from the prosecution should have done a better job and focussed and concentrated on those instructions more to ever them clear because it's very clear she didn't understand or like, because clearly she rejected that perspective by the prosecution ending anded up with the verdict -- >> the key strat

paul has a different take. and the new poll shows rand paul is now leading in the republican primary field. >> let's ask bob about that. for 2016, i have two questions. first of all, do you believe they're both actually putting their toe in the water to see about 2016 and also, what do you think the republican mindset would be, will it be more conservative or libertarian or when it comes down to voting? >> it's strange libertarianism going back to eisenhower. enormous split in 1964. it was taken over by more libertarians over the reservetive republicans. this is nothing new. it's becoming something brighter on the stage of politics 'cause you have two people who are pretty good at what they do -- we haven't had a rand paul who is an out and out libertarian in the congress for a long time. so he raises questions which i have been there for a long time -- he was never taken seriously. >> there is a difference. >> we read is it going to be more conservative or libertarian? i think that's inaccurate. i think rand p

lisa bloom, paul henderson, and karen de soto. they've been instructed on the law and now they have the case. let's get into what may sway them as they get into the fate of george zimmerman and later the role that race may play in the jury's decision. this is "hardball," the place for politics. which is deposited in your fidelity account. is that it? actually... there's no annual fee and no limits on rewards. and with the fidelity cash management account debit card, you get reimbursed for all atm fees. is that it? oh, this guy, too. turn more of the money you spend into money you invest. it's everyday reinvesting for your personal economy. details are really important during four course. i want to make sure that everything is perfect. that's why i do what i do. [ male announcer ] it's red lobster's just $14.99. start your feast with a choice of soup, then salad, plus biscuits! next, choose one of nine amazing entrees like new coconut and citrus grilled shrimp or linguini with shrimp and scallops. then finish with dessert. your fou