scary. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. she even answers questions from the studio audience. >> do you feel that your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes. >> in a negative way? >> no. it might have said why she kept it too honest. >> rachel jeantel in her own words. this is "piers morgan live." [ applause ] >> a young woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he died, this is rachel jeantel's first interview since she testified in the trial and she joins me now exclusively along with her attorney. rachel, welcome to you. >> hi, how are you? >> you're famous now. everybody watched your testimony and saw somebody who looked like they really didn't want to be there but also suffering from the fact that you lost your great friend, trayvon. >> yes. >> tell me, first of all, your reaction to the fact that george zimmerman was acquitted. >> disappointed, upset, angry, questioned and mad. >> the jury decided after a long deliberation that the prosecution hadn't proved the case. they believed it w

rachel jeantel needs to get her act together. if my mother were alive she would say how dare she speak like that? >> do you know her educational background, larry? >> i know how she presented herself on the jury. >> larry do you know her educational background? >> people evaluate you based on the way you express yourself. >> do you know her educational background? this young 19-year-old black woman that you are viserating for her lack of intelligence. why don't you have any idea of her background? >> why don't you hire her as a co-host? >> why don't you -- >> i know -- >> why are e with talking about this -- let's talk about something -- >> i talked you to talk about rachel jeantel. >> let's talk about -- >> larry, larry. >> you are implying that it is. it is not. as we speak there is a guy in prison, somebody in an suv with his fiancee killed a hispanic who cut in front of him. >> larry. >> he wasn't arrested right away. the family wasn't agitated. the guy may not have been arrested. where are the cameras? you have some white gu

what do they think of rachel jeantel? >> the family's incredibly proud of rachel jeantel, incredibly proud of her courage, incredibly proud that she got on that stand, and for two days she took just absolutely bombardment of questioning from don west. and held her ground and stuck to her same story over and over and over again. you know, after last night's interview with piers i think that rachel certainly reminded america that trayvon martin's a human being. he's not a symbol and he's certainly not a thug. >> yeah, but the juror that anderson cooper spoke to said she did not find rachel jeantel to be credible, she felt sorry for her. it wasn't effective testimony. >> because the juror has never met anyone like rachel jeantel. and that's a problem with our country and the race relations we have in our country. and piers morgan asking rachel last night, tell us about the world that you live in. these are american children. they don't live in a different world. they don't live in a different nation. the fact that we have tw

in terps of rachel jeantel i found a fascinating interview on many levels. one that struck me is if that personality had been in court on the stand testifying in the way she spoke to me, would it have been more worrying for you? would she be more engaging to the jury and told us more about the other side of trayvon martin that i don't think we really heard in that case? >> i'm not sure how she would have presented herself but certainly last night she was more engaging, more straightforward, and i'm not sure why she started out with the attitude that she obviously did in the trial but certainly some of what she could have said was lost on the jury through the attitude. >> she painted a very different picture on martin to the one that was repeatedly rammed home during the trial. she talked to somebody who was pretty quiet, a socft sort of charter. she said he took a bit of weed twice a week. somebody that loved his mom and family and somebody from her understanding of the conversation on that fateful last night, was on his way home. what do you ever of that as

feeling proud of rachel jeantel, dignity and grace. a lot of people saying the same something, seeing a different rachel tonight than the person they saw in the courtroom under all that stress and tension. i want to talk to you a bit more about trayvon. first of all, i want to play a clip from anderson cooper's interview with the juror, the first juror to speak out. let's watch this. >> a lot of times she was using phrases i have never heard before. and what they meant. >> when she used the phrase creepy ass cracker, what did you think of that? >> i thought it was probably the truth. i think trayvon probably said that. >> and did you see that as a negative statement or a racial statement? as the defense suggested? >> i don't think it's really racial. i think it's just everyday life. the type of life that they live and how they're living in the environment that they're living in. >> what's your reaction to that? >> well, the jurors, they see their fact. no offense to the jury, they old. that's old-school people. we in a new school. our

>> oh, you want to bring it back to rachel -- >> that is why i booked you lar ray. >> rachel jeantel needs to get her act together. if my mother were alive she would say how dare she speak like that? >> do you know her educational background, larry? >> i know how she presented herself -- >> larry do you know her educational background? this young 19-year-old black woman that you are putting down for lack of intelligence, why don't you have any idea of her back ground? >> why don't you hire her as a co-host? >> why don't you -- >> i know -- >> why are e with talking about this -- let's talk about something -- >> i talked you to talk about rachel jeantel. >> let's talk about -- >> larry, larry. >> you are i'm flying that it is. it is not. as we speak there is a guy in prison, somebody in an suv with his fiancee killed a hispanic who cut in front of him. >> larry. >> he wasn't arrested right away. the family wasn't agitated. the guy may not have been arrested. you have some white guy do something to a black person and want to march on washington. you ought to be ashamed of yourself. >>

. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. she even answers questions from our studio audience. >> do you feel your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes. >> in a negative way? >> no. it might have said why she kept it too honest. >> rachel jeantel in her own words. this is "piers morgan live." >>> i want to begin with the young woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he died. this is rachel jeantel's first interview since she testified for the trial. rachel, welcome to you. >> hi, how are you? >> you're very famous now. everybody watched your testimony. everybody saw somebody who look ed like they didn't really want to be there but also suffering from fact you lost your great friend, trayvon. tell me, first of all, your reaction to the fact that george zimmerman was acquitted. >> disappointed. upset. angry. question. and mad. >> the jury decided after a long deliberation that the prosecution hadn't proved its case. they believe that it was trayvon on top of george zimmerman. that it was geo

>>> plus my interview with rachel jeantel. she knew the zimmerman defense team for months before the trial. how she says they tried to fight her testimony. >> the defense never wanted me there. they had a plan for me. >> you're not going to want to miss the rest of what she has to say. >>> and remember, friend or foe, i want to know. send me your e-mails. reply al is coming. stay with us. >>> have you joined the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. today our facebook fans are eager to hear from rachel jeantel. herself. and i will tell you about the interview that is coming up. better still, we'd like to know what you think about the interview and let us know what you think by heading over to facebook and search "politicsnation." like us and join the conversation after you check it out join the conversation that keeps going long after the show. this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day

in terms of rachel jeantel i found a fascinating interview on many levels. one that struck me is if that personality had been in court on the stand testifying in the way she spoke to me, would it have been more worrying for you? would she be more engaging to the jury and told us more about the other side of trayvon martin that i don't think we really heard in that case? >> i'm not sure how she would have presented herself but certainly last night she was more engaging, more straightforward, and i'm not sure why she started out with the attitude that she obviously did in the trial but certainly some of what she could have said was lost on the jury through the attitude. >> she painted a very different picture on martin to the one that was repeatedly rammed home during the trial. she talked to somebody who was pretty quiet, a soft sort of charter. she said he took a bit of weed twice a week. somebody that loved his mom and family and somebody from her understanding of the conversation on that fateful last night, was on his way home. what do you ever of that asp

rachel jeantel. >> are you listening? i had told you i'm listening. >> that's all you know about her, you've got to see this. what is your view of george zimmerman? >> weak. scary. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. even answers questions from the studio audience. >> do you feel your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes. >> in a negative way? >> no. why she kept it so honest. >> rachel jeantel in her own words. this is piers morgan live. [ applause ] >> a young woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he died, this is rachel jeantel's first interview since she testified in the trial and she joins me now exclusively along with her attorney. rachel, welcome to you. >> hi, how are you? >> you're famous now. everybody watched your testimony and saw somebody who looked like they really didn't want to be there but also suffering from the fact that you lost your great friend, trayvon. >> yes. >> tell me, first of all, your reaction to the fact that george zimmerman was acqu

rod, tell me first of all, how rachel jeantel is doing. she has had a barrage of negativity thrown her way, she's thrust into the spotlight. only 19 years old. how has she reacted to all that has come her way since she took the stand? >> she's doing quite well. i speak with rachel about three or four times a day since the trial. she's taking it in stride. i try to keep her away from the media and tell her to watch as little television as possible. stay off of facebook, stay off all the other social sites because you're still under oath and she may be called back to be a witness in the case. i don't want anything she may read or hear on the radio or television to influence the way she may of it if she's called back again as another witness. >> defense attorney don west did on the second day of her testimony question her about what he said was a change in her demeanor. did you sort of talk to her after the first day and i say i know it's frustrating but give us what you said to her between day one and day two. >> once a witness takes the sta

scary. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. she even answers questions from the studio audience. >> do you feel that your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes. >> in a negative way? >> no. it might have said why she kept it too honest. >> rachel jeantel in her own words. this is pieis "piers morgan liv" [ applause ] >> a young woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he died, this is rachel jeantel's first interview since she testified in the trial and she joins me now exclusively along with her attorney. rachel, welcome to you. >> hi, how are you? >> you're famous now. everybody watched your testimony and saw somebody who looked like they really didn't want to be there but also suffering from the fact that you lost your great friend, trayvon. >> yes. >> tell me, first of all, your reaction to the fact that george zimmerman was acquitted. >> disappointed, upset, angry, questioned and mad. >> the jury decided after a long deliberation that the prosecution hadn't proved the case. they believed

this is her first interview, rachel jeantel. than the color of anybody's skin, and was the prosecution simply out foxed by the defense? this is piers morgan live. >>> i want to begin with the young woman on the phone with trayvon martin the night he died. this is her first interview, rachel jeantel. >> hi, how are you? >> you are very famous now. everyone saw your testimony, you didn't look like you wanted to be there, you're also suffering from the loss of your friend trayvon martin. tell me about the fact that george zimmerman was acquitted. >> disappointed, upset, angry, question and mad. >> the jury decided after a long deliberation that the prosecution hadn't proved its case, they believed that it was trayvon on top of george zimmerman, that it was george zimmerman's voice on the tape crying out for help. and they concluded he acted in self-defense. what do you say to that? >> yes. just yes. >> in your heart, what do you believe happened. >> he was trying to get home, and he was, and that's a fact. >> and you know that beca

. >> how helpful or unhelpful was the testimony of rachel jeantel, trayvon martin's friend? >> you know, piers, i've been asked that several times the last several days. i'm reminded of a prosecutor that made a closing argument in the first murder case i tried 40 years ago, and his words were to the effect you can't necessarily pick your witnesses, it would be nice if you could walk around with 20 nuns, so that anything that happened you would have 20 nuns to testify for you. now this is what the prosecutor got. they have to deal with her. i think it's unfortunate. i don't know her or didn't talk to her. but what i saw and what i see now is that she displayed an attitude, a personality that doesn't have credibility, and i don't think my personal belief is that -- was she telling the truth or not, i don't believe that any jury, certainly not this jury, is going to convict mr. zimmerman based on what she said to say, convict him of anything but that's not the end of the case. she's only one witness and a lot of things she said no matter how arrogant she was, the fact of the ma

rachel jeantel is not uneducated. she's a smart cookie. what she didn't like was the environment that don west created in that courtroom of hostility. that's a different thing. >> more behind the scenes with her. did you get a sense of things that she still wanted to say, that she would have liked to go back and redo? >> i think she regretted the fact, and this may have come out more from part of the interview and also when i spoke to her, that george zimmerman had a number of people who appeared in court who gave great character witness for him. and that clearly impacted on the jury. you could hear that jury last night talking about george this, george that. she felt an engagement with him on a human level. which i don't think any of them felt with trayvon martin because the -- again, i blame the prosecution for this. i blame them for many things. you know, overcharging in the first place. had they gone for manslaughter, they may have gotten a conviction. i think the way that they built up a picture of trayvon was unsuccessful. rachel jea

what did you make of the rachel jeantel interview there? >> i couldn't hear your question. >> did you hear the interview i did with rachel jeantel? >> yeah, i saw part of it. >> she portrayed a very different kind of trayvon martin to the one that we had been led to believe by the defense. do you think this -- justice has been done here? >> well, i think that she clearly could have done a better job testifying if she had been proper preens by the lawyers, given an opportunity to. you know, she clearly was a controversial witness, that didn't mean she wasn't telling the truth. and i'm sure it's a foreign environment for her, she didn't want to be there, as i understand it, and she was attacked, you know in the lawyer manner. but i'll repeat, it doesn't mean she wasn't telling the truth many one thing i did hear, piers, people worrying about this comment about him being a cracka. let me tell you, i'm a cracka, been one for 70 years. a cracka to us means a person who was born here, we're native to florida. there's very few of us florida cracka

i did pick up on some things out of rachel jeantel's testimony. trayvon martin's phone records or her phone records when they were talking. >> of course, rachel jeantel is the friend that trayvon martin was talking to right before the shooting on the cell phone. >> yeah. i call them the ear witnesses. the ones that heard the noises. they helped me fill the gap and a couple of the eyewitnesss but i think the one thing that stands out the most is the injuries. just to mr. zimmerman. >> what did you think of neighbor john good's testimony? talked about mma style, ground and pound. >> yeah. i mean, you know, what i -- i got from that was just the motions he saw. you know? whether it was ground and pound or mma. you know? it wasn't relevant to me. it was just the motions and the fact that who he saw on top and who he thought was on the bottom i think those were more relevant features of his testimony to me. >> did you think rachel jeantel was credible? >> i think -- i did have some -- i did pick up some credible information from her so, yeah, i think s

. >> rachel jeantel. what did you think of her as a witness? >> here's what i think about rachel jeantel myself. i think she was a reluctant witness who didn't want to be there. i think her mom and miss fulton got together and said something like, you need to go tell this woman what happened to her son and do it now. i think that's what happened. i think she was reluctant -- >> so you think she was manipulated? >> i wouldn't even say something that bad. if i was a friend of a mother, i would say, go tell her what happened to her son. >> how much do you think was embellished and how much was actual testimony? >> i think once she was put in a position to talk, i know she tried to smooth over some of the things that trayvon was talking to her about. i know she didn't talk about the racial terms he may have used or the colorful language he may have used, so i think she gave a sanitized version to mom, because after all, i think she was being sensitive to ms. fulton having just lost her son. we know that rache

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rachel jeantel against the parade of witnesses that george zimmerman called, it's not about race. it's about credentialed people that came across as more credible witnesses. so i think it's a little risky to point at rachel jeantel and say, oh, you know, ignore all her problems and believe her just out right. >> is she really that important? obviously, she's a colorful witness -- >> very important. >> how so? >> sunny, why -- >> i think she's very important because she's the person on the phone with trayvon martin when the confrontation happened and she's the person that said trayvon martin was afraid. he believed that george zimmerman was creepy, was following him and that george zimmerman confronted him by saying what are you doing around here when trayvon martin asked why are you following me? george zimmerman didn't say i'm the neighborhood watch guy or anything like that and she says she heard trayvon -- she heard a bump and heard trayvon martin say get off, get off. that's important testimony and danny, you were one of the people that said she wasn't relatable. i don't know

for the first time rachel jeantel is speaking out. she talked with piers morgan last night about the verdict and also who trayvon martin really was. >> tell me first of all your reaction to the fact that george zimmerman was acquitted. >> disappointed, upset, angry. >> what is your view of george zimmerman? >> weak. if you were a real man, you would have stand on that stage and tell what happened. >> in your heart, what do you believe happened? >> he was trying to get home and he was and that's a fact. he keeps telling me the man's still watching him so if it was a security guard or policeman they'd come up to see him do you have a problem, do you need help, like normal people. >> if george zimmerman had done that, if he'd introduced himself as a neighborhood watch patrolman, what would trayvon have said to him do you think, no, i'm just trying to get home. >> be honest with me rachel do you think that was racially motivated or more of a case somebody he thought was a young thug, black or white? >> it was racial, let's be honest, raci

do you agree with rachel jeantel that it's okay for anyone to say n-i-g-g-a? >> anyone, no. i think black people can use the word with the "a" ending just because it holds a lot of meaning -- derogatory meaning behind it and it's hurtful. i don't think anyone can use that word. >> but young people use that word. don't tell me you don't. >> no, i do, i do. >> so you use it but you wouldn't want to use a white people use it? >> i wouldn't want to hear them say it but sometimes i just let it roll off my shoulders when i hear it. >> so shelby, as a young black female, do you agree with rachel jeantel? how do you react to someone when they say the "n" word in your presence? >> i think it has a lot to do with the pop culture that our generation is actually basically listening to the music that some of our artists have used that word in their lyrics and some people it doesn't really matter what race and whether -- what socioeconomic background, they have used that word numerous times in everyday lifestyles. so i don't necessarily like the word, especially how it's evo e evolved and

trayvon martin's friend rachel jeantel was a major focus of george zimmerman's trial. but how did her testimony play to the jury? well, according to the juror who spoke out last night on cnn, jeantel's message simply didn't come across as credible. the jurors said her poor communication skills played a role. and the fact that she used phrases that the juror herself didn't understand ultimately, the juror said she felt sorry for the 19-year-old witness who clearly didn't want to be there. also last night, jeantel spoke out for the first time since the trial saying she thought things would have been different that night in trayvon had been white. >> let's be honest, racial. if he was -- trayvon was white and he had a hoodie on, would that happen? because that was around 7:00 or something. that's around people walk their dogs, people sit outside. you tell your child when you see a grown person follow you, run away and all that. was you going to stand this? you're going to tell your child to stand there? if you tell your child to stand there, we going to see your child on

and when you put rachel jeantel against the parade of witnesses that george zimmerman called, it's not about race. it's about credentials. people who just came across as more credible witnesses. so it's risky to point at her and say, oh, ignore all her problems and believe her just outright. >> is she really that important? obviously she was a colorful witness. >> very important. >> how so, how so, sunny? >> i think she's very important, because she was the person that was on the phone with trayvon martin when the confrontation happened. she is the person that said trayvon martin was afraid. he believed that george zimmerman was creepy, was following him, and that george zimmerman confronted him by saying what are you doing around here when trayvon martin asked why are you following me? george zimmerman didn't say i'm the neighborhood watch guy or anything like that. then she says she heard some sort of bump and she heard trayvon martin say get off, get off. that's very important testimony. and danny, you were one of the people who said she wasn't relatable. i don't know what you meant

her name was rachel jeantel. now, this young lady i will submit to you is not a sophisticated person. not the most educated. but she's a human being. she happens to be, what, haitian or of haitian descent and made a big deal about, oh, you can't read cursive. yes, you can, unfortunately. she's what, 18, 19? but did what she tell you as best she could and maybe her english wasn't the best? maybe her speech, her language was a little colorful, i think she referred to me as that bald-headed dude and referred to other phrases to describe other people. but did she speak the truth? because when you think of it, she was the person that was speaking to the victim. and really the conversation she had with the victim nobody would no know whether she's telling the truth or not other than her. we have the phone records established whether or not they were talking. but what i'm saying is, she didn't have to -- she could've embellished, she could've lied about what the victim said and when she referred to the guy that was foll

this is about rachel jeantel. she said, i think it's just every day life, the type of life that they live and how they're living in the environment that they're living in. >> she also went on to say, michael -- forgive me for interrupting, but she went on to say she didn't even understand how they were talking, the words. this is why i always rejected this notion of ebonics, as if there's some foreign secret language that different groups share and that others are left out of this intimate circle. >> right. so when i read that -- and what you're making reference to, i said, okay, this juror and perhaps these other jurors who were not people of color, as you know, fell into the category that many whites fell into whether they looked at rachel jeantel and other aspects of the case. >> okay, michael. since we have such candid conversations. here you are, white male, nowhere close to her age, her demographics, her background. you got her. you understood her. >> well, i got her, but i have to tell you there were aspect

al, was that your first meeting with rachel jeantel? >> yes, it was. i had never spoken with her before. and i had watched the testimony. and i like others were alarmed at the levels of attack and almost venom that people came down on this young lady, and when i sat and talked to her, i was actually moved by her conviction, her firmness, and her strength, and her intelligence, and i thought that -- i was very happy that people could see her in her own resolve, she knew exactly what she was doing, never ever equivocated on the facts that she said from the beginning until this day. >> i want to hear -- i want to present to the audience more of your interview, because you broadcasted four hours ago at 6:00 and i think we have a whole new group of viewers who are going to want to see this. it's a very special look at her. we're going to listen to more of it now. >> great. >> that's why they said they had a plan for me. they come after me since october. >> really? >> yes. >> why do you think it was so important to them they didn't want you there? >> phone r

rachel jeantel saying clearly racial profiling. now we get their versions of whether trayvon martin threw the first punch in the encounter. first you'll hear from the juror. >> i think he did. >> what makes you think that? >> because the evidence of on the t on the sidewalk where george says he was punched, there was evidence of his flash light and keys there. and then a little bit farther down there was a flash light that he was carrying. and i think that's where trayvon hit him. >> so the juror with the strong view that trayvon martin threw that first punch. but rachel jeantel was asked by piers morgan did trayvon have that in him. take a listen. >> no. no. trayvon was too quiet, and why trayvon going to run if he wanted to confront him, beat him, why would he run? >> and that brings us now to a comparison of their takes on trayvon martin himself based on everything that they knew about him. first, you're going to hear the juror's description of how she thinks martin's personality played into the encounter. then you'll hear rache

now, i didn't see rachel jeantel's poor manners. but then i'm no judge of manners. i didn't grow up in a world of manners. i was never really taught manners. and yes, i've been told many times that my manners are poor. but i've never been told that in the neighborhood where i grew up where the manners judgers just aren't so strict. but really, is the "o'reilly factor" an appropriate forum to be giving lectures on manners? >> hold it. because i'm getting teed off at you. give me one damn program he said he cut. >> he has cut entitlements -- >> what entitlements? what program? >> what do you want to yell -- >> [ muted ]. because you're lying. >> i'm not lying. don't sit there and call me a liar. >> you're lying. >> here's the thing. if you don't like the president, you don't like what he's doing, but don't sit there and call me a liar. >> i am. >> ah, yes. the manners of "the o'reilly factor." laura ingram says left-wing elites have lower expectations for black kids than they do for upper-crust white kids. that's her phrase. "upper-crust white kids." what the -- what

rachel jeantel. let me give you my perspective of rachel jeantel. she didn't want to be involved in the case. she didn't want to be involved in the deposition and she didn't want to be involved in trial. i think what happened -- and this is just conjecture -- and i'm not supposed to conjecture too much -- i think her mom got with police voltan and go said go that lady what happened to her son and she didn't really want to do that and why she wrote the letter. why she had or didn't have a conversation -- i don't -- don't forget. they only reunited, trayvon martin and rachel jeantel two weeks before. you know that. they knew each other from school but never really hung out. two or three weeks before was when they started talking again so it wasn't what it perceived to be boyfriend and girlfriend, nothing to do with that and she didn't think it was much that night. interesting to me just the one thing about miss jeantel. if you ask me right now to explain to you the phone call that i had three weeks ago with my wife, four weeks ago with my sister, or l

the focus on the rachel jeantel. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial? >> yes. >> that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so, it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> bill: after that al sharpton said. this. >> the attacks that i have heard on rachel jeantel have been nothing short of offensive to any american that wants to see young people, teenagers, people that are minors do the right thing and come forward. >> bill: so, bernie, sharpton, does he have a point? >> well, you know, race is the thing that never -- it's the wound that never quite seems to heal in america. i think that's partially at least because people like al sharpton keep poking at it when he talks about attacks on rachel jeantel he is not talking about any kind of attack. is he talking about a racial attack. now, what al sharpton considers an attack others might consider legitimate questions. for instan

rachel jeantel against the parade of witnesses that george zimmerman called, it's not about race. it's about credentialed people that came across as more credible witnesses. so i think it's a little risky to point at rachel jeantel and say, oh, you know, ignore all her problems and believe her just out right. >> is she really that important? obviously, she's a colorful witness -- >> very important. >> how so? >> sunny, why -- >> i think she's very important because she's the person on the phone with trayvon martin when the confrontation happened and she's the person that said trayvon martin was afraid. he believed that george zimmerman was creepy, was following him and that george zimmerman confronted him by saying what are you doing around here when trayvon martin asked why are you following me? george zimmerman didn't say i'm the neighborhood watch guy or anything like that and she says she heard trayvon -- she heard a bump and heard trayvon martin say get off, get off. that's important testimony and danny, you were one of the people that said she wasn't relatable. i don't know

one thing that was very striking about o'mara's summation was putting aside rachel jeantel's demeanor. the 911 tapes, the times, that's where the four minutes comes in that trayvon and rachel jeantel are off the phone. it's four full minutes until the shot takes place. what goes on in that four minutes? why doesn't trayvon leave if he's not initiating the conflict? >> but in rebuttal, jeff, the prosecution made the point that it wasn't really four minutes. there was an overlap of two minutes. when the call dropped, there was two minutes between that call dropping and the shot. >> why should -- what should trayvon martin have done? his argument was, should he have run home? >> why do you have to run home? >> why does somebody walking have to run because somebody -- >> i'm not suggesting he has to run, but there is a -- he can just simply not engage. remember, it's zimmerman's testimony that he gets out of the car and trayvon martin assaults him. now, that may be untrue, but that's what the jury heard. >> charles' comment was, okay, then trayvon martin ignores him, goes into this house,

my heart is with sybrina fulton, rachel jeantel everyone who loved trayvon and has been sent the message that his life did not matter." kate, chris? >> i think most people would agree, people, their hearts and prayers are with the family of

scary. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. she even answers questions from the studio audience. >> do you feel that your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes. >> in a negative way? >>

let's play what she said. >> so the term creepy ass cracker that rachel jeantel said he had used, you're saying that simply is how trayvon and rachel talk to each other? >> sure, that's the way they talk. >> and did you see that as a negative statement or a racial statement as the defense suggested? >> i don't think it's really racial. i think it's just everyday life, the type of life that they live and how they are living in the environment that they are living in. >> so you didn't find her credible as a witness? >> no. >> i got an enormous amount of tweets from viewers that watch that interview and overwhelming, they were, the people tweeting me were saying there were an awful lot of theys in that statement, they, they and the viewers weren't sure whether she was referencing they trayvon and rachel jeantel or they african americans in general. i'm wondering as you hear that what do you think? >> i think it speaks for itself. she's -- she definitely has a disconnect. she's not saying that's the way teenagers talk in our community. she's saying in their community that's the way they talk

. >> do you think that rachel jeantel was treated fairly as a witness? >> it was the tone of don west's questions to her. >> the way they tried to cross examine her. >> are you claiming in anyway you don't understand english? >> trying to rattle you on the stand? >> i think the tone came across very condescending. >> they're trying to call her character into question. >> she was the last one to speak to that child, trayvon martin. >> they tried to frighten the testimony. >> and he was fearful. >> the verdict in the george zimmerman trial is sparking a national dialogue. >> with an escalating push for federal civil rights charges. >> dozens of demonstrators began a sit-in at the governor's office. >> they're looking micro scopically at the jury. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> did the juror make the right decision in this case? >> juror b-37 is this your verdict? >> yes. >> the jury has spoken. >> the justice department shares your concern. >> i think it's perfectly appropriate to look at the bigger picture. it's time to question laws