his company fivethirtyeight.com is part of the "new york times". he's now moving to espn and abc. >> well, i think it's the combination of knowing something about statistics but being a good storyteller. people say the numbers are dry, right? it's like no, it's interesting if you think through things in the right way. it doesn't create false certainty but kind of talking about where your forecast is coming from. not just putting numbers up and leaving the environment but explaining why the forecast my shift a certain way. >> rose: david carr of the "new york times" joins us to talk about the new television. a look at netflix and others in the revolution in the making. >> yeah, if you look around, charlie, these names: amazon, apple, intel, these are big, big companies that have changed the world, changed the way that we do a number of things. and now they're all pivoting toward television. it's not just them. sony is in there. there's a lot of technological energy being aimed at that box in your living room. and netflix -- i think it's been an extr

be taken away from them from the "new york times," the "new york times" which did not call, as i recall, herman cain to get out of the race, when he would not appoint a muslim to the cabinet. >> i think sexting the pictures have driven the "new york times" a little crazy, and the daily news a little crazy and they have not noticed how they have broken with their own precedence in covering these kind of things in the past. joy reed and peter, thank you very much for joining me on this very tricky to talk about subject on this family show, but we're finding a way. >>> coming up, nsa leaker ed snowden is already planning his future life in russia. he just doesn't have permission to live there quite yet. and he's almost left the russian airport today, so the story says. >>> and vladimir putin is a lot more welcoming to ed snowden than he is to some other visitors planning to come for the olympics. anyone who is gay or is suspected of maybe being gay, any tourists can be thrown into prison for that now in russia. >>> actor and playwright harvey fair steen is angry about it to say the least.

newspapers in new york and london who compete with the guardian and the new york times ran big stories saying, "we've been on the wikileaks web site. we found material which could get people killed." and that had a very damaging political impact on the way that the story played out. and also, within wikileaks, where julian's colleagues were horrified that their web site was carrying this material, and very angry that it was carrying that material and they'd never been told. >> smith: the question of harm minimization-- you came in for a lot of criticism of that-- that you were, in your initial conversations, not concerned. >> that's absolutely false and this is a typical rhetorical trick... >> smith: why... why does this keep coming up, why are there people out there that are saying that you didn't care if informants were killed? but you reject the idea or the allegation... >> we are completely... completely... >> smith: ...that you... that you ever resisted, that you were into just releasing the names? >> it's completely false. we have a harm minimization procedure. a harm minimizatio

please welcome the man who is still evidently "the new york times" times trends editor henry mitchell mckraken. mr. mccraken, please. sit down, thank you. (cheers and applause) >> stephen: now henry, henry, thank you for coming. what an honor. evidently "the new york times" has published essentially the same article every few years over the last century. clearly a complex issue, boil it down for us. >> they're doing it! (applause) >> stephen: yeah, okay, i -- >> girls too! >> stephen: i got that part. >> and they like it! >> stephen: so i gathered, yeah. >> rubbing their bathing suit areas. >> stephen: okay, i've never heard it call that. >> kissy canoe and doing it too. >> stephen: uh-huh. >> taking a ride on the bone zeppelin. >> stephen: anything else? >> playing the old hoop and stick. get an old, a tuck in the bathtub (laughter) >> stephen: well, henry, well, henry, i think that about covers it. is there anything else you think the public should know. >> i would really like to go back to college. (laughter) (cheers and applause) could you write me a recommendation? >> stephen: wi

and that was jonathon weissman from the new york times. let me read to you his first paragraph above the fold in "the new york times" in the setup piece for the president's speech. he wrote the gop will gut the budget and the sharpest cuts in the generation from the gop, they will hold hostage the budget unless it is stripped. that was the setup. "the new york times" is playing right into the campaign rhetoric of this president. >> how do you see it? >> the coverage of the republican pass versus the coverage of the president. >> right. again the president suffers from a cynical media that aren't enthusiastic. by a long shot. republicans suffer from relentlessly hostile media that still looks to blame him. ryan williams was highlighting the congressional approval rating and setting it up, that was the republicans' fault. >> monica is there anything the republicans can do to even the playing field a little bit? >> very tough for them. look, they have to come out with a sconsistent pitch. very tough to punch lou especially when you are compet

it's arrogant of the media, "the new york times" or any other media to stand up and tell us how to run our democracy. the idea that we would elevate a single qualification of some sort of fidelity or sexual puritanism above everything else, you have people who have running for office who have history of corruption, who have been involved in torturing people, who have all sorts of things that some of us might have said should get them out of the race. the idea this goes above all others is weird. it reminds me, since you brought up the clinton impeachment, of that amazing opening passage in philip roth's "the human stain" where he talks about the desire to excise the presidential erection away from the national consciousness so that joe lieberman could watch tv with his daughter. right? and philip roth does it better than a lot of us in the punditsphere because what he was getting at is the whole thing is off the rails. you can say that and say this isn't someone you want in your family or as your husband or wife. but the test of whether a candidate should be your lover is not unlike th

involvement in vietnam, came to be published not in the new york times by the beacon press. we will hear from three men at the center of the storm. west, ellsberg, robert and former alaska center mike gravel. all over washington, not only in the pentagon, but in the cia, state department, and elsewhere. isit is the government that lawless, not the press. all theseking to put papers into the record automatically. bang, they are in the record. that is how it got into the record of the united states of america. >> all that and more, coming up. i'm amy goodman. today we have a special on whistleblowers and leaks. when edward snowden came forward as the man who had secrets about the national security agency program, he was praised by the country's best known whistleblower, daniel ellsberg. "i think there has not been a more significant or helpful leak out for another ride disclosure in american history ever then went edward snowden shared with a guarded about the nsa, and that includes the pentagon papers." in a moment we will hear daniel share a story about how he leaked the pen

it's arrogant of the media, "the new york times" or any other media to stand up and tell us how to run our democracy. the idea that we would elevate a single qualification of some sort of fidelity or sexual puritanism above everything else, you have people who have running for office who have history of corruption, who have been involved in torturing people, who have all sorts of things that some of us might have isay should get them out of the race. the idea this goes above all others is weird. it reminds me, since you brought up the clinton impeachment, of that amazing opening passage in philip roth's "the human stain" where he talks about the desire to excise the presidential erection away from the national consciousness so that joe lieberman could watch tv with his daughter. right? and philip roth does it better than a lot of us in the punditsphere because what he was getting at is the whole thing is off the rails. you can say that and say this isn't someone you want in your family or as your husband or wife. but the test of whether a candidate should be your lover is not unlike th

so the question is, is "the new york times" guilty of aiding the enemy? what if ayman al zawahiri is watching "all in" and taking notes? a surprising ruling in court today on just what it means to aid the enemy, next. lucky charm! ♪ yer always after me lucky charms! whoa. i forgot how good these taste! [ lucky ] ♪ they're magically delicious >>> for the first time since 1863, an american stood in court accused by the united states government of, quote, aiding the enemy. today a judge shocked a lot of people watching the case by finding private bradley manning not guilty of that charge. which carried with it a possible life sentence. manning was, however, convicted of 20 of the government's 22 charges. he will be sentenced tomorrow, and despite being found not guilty of aiding the enemy, the most serious charge, he still faces over 100 years in prison. the judge agreed with the government almost every step of the way in the trial of bradley manning, but on the charge of aiding the enemy, she rejected the government's audacious line of thinking which ev

mark halperin is joined by andrea mitchell of nbc news and peter baker of the "new york times." >> look, i think the overriding priority for the obama national security team is really one of stability, trying to keep the relationship from rupturing and trying to keep violence from spreading even worse than it has in the streets of cairo. you don't see them out there banging the drums and denouncing with full fury what's happening there. you don't see them criticizing even president morsi with full... either. they're trying very much to play a quiet game. president obama hasn't said one word in public about this yet. he's issued only a written statement expressing deep disappointment. his spokesman has called for calm and condemned violence. >> we continue tonight with the ongoing saga of n.s.a. leaker edward snowden. i'll be talking with people on both sides of that debate from the intelligence community to privacy advocates. philip mudd, rotenberg, jesselyn radack and timothy murphy. >> and what has been revealed by mr. snowden violates at least two federal laws governing surveillance.

as for the "new york times" editorial, the daily news had an editorial as well saying the same thing. and i don't want to comment on the editorial. but he is not jumping out of the race. he sent an e-mail to supporters saying new york, i'm not going to quit you. i think he's going to -- >> isn't that from "brokeback mountain"? why would he bring that up? doesn't matter. anything goes. anthony weiner continued campaigning today. i didn't know he used that particular phrase. >> he did, yeah. >> wow. >> positive this whole campaign on a bet. and that is at the end of the day, citizens are more interested in the challenge they face in their lives than anything that i have done embarrassing in my past. and i'm fine. i've got an amazing wife and child upstairs. i have a comfortable life. this is not about me. >> well, in a letter to supporters today, weiner i guess to contributors tried to cast himself as a david up against goliath. quote, now with 47 days left until the primary, some powerful voices are making it clear they still don't want me to run. well, yesterday's news has given them

that was jonathan wiseman from the "new york times." let me read to you his first paragraph above the fold in the "new york times" in the set up. the g.o.p. will gut the budget, sharpest cuts in a generation from the g.o.p.. they will hold hostage the budget unless it's stripped. that was the setup. "new york times" are playing right into the campaign rhetoric of this president. >> rick: how do you see it, jim? >> again, president suffers from a cynical media that aren't as enthusiastic as they used to be. republicans suffer from relentlessly hostile media that still looks to blame them. brian williams was highlighting the congressional approval ratings and it was all the republicans' fault. >> is there anything the republicans can do to even the playing field a little bit? >> it's very tough for them. they need to come out with a consistent message which this i think they have done in the last few years. it's tough to punch through especially when you are competing with the president. despite the skeptical coverage over the last week i

the idea was first reported by "the new york times" and would save the city ttns of millions of dollars. ted cruz favors repeal of obamacare and talks about the federal government been traveling. >> the idea that we would be stuck footing the bill for detroit's irresponsible policy, i think it makes no sense. >> likely to catch on dealing with massive retiree benefits. >> it is a way to ensure that the employees have good health coverage and perhaps excellent health coverage. at the same time, take the financial burden off the witty and talented. reporter: josh said he was not sure how does it play out. >> for the benefits of the affordable care act is making sure that those americans that don't get health insurance through their employer are able for the first time to go to the open market through these marketplaces and purchase high-quality affordable health insurance. reporter: the former dnc says the component of the health care law is a major problem. writing in "the wall street journal" that the ipad is a health care rationing body and it will be able to stop certain treatments it

you have "the new york times," which has power, "the new york daily news" editorializing. i wrote a piece. nice of them to publish a countering view. >> speaking of egos. >> and the "the new york post," which is a huge tabloid, is trying to dip in and drive him out of the race. we've seen this before. we've seen it with spitzer. i think that is really wrong. i think you have to let this play out. the idea that however disgusting this is, and people have every right to hold it against these guys, but the idea this becomes the fidelity test that narrows the field before everything else, that people can be guilty of corruption or torture and those people are not in the same way asked to leave the race. i think -- i will say this. good for anthony weiner for staying in the race. bad for anthony weiner for being so bad. and he doesn't get my vote. but let's let the voters decide. >> sure. and the voters are going to decide because he apparently is not leaving the race. i mean, these editorial boards have the right to offer an opinion. >> no, only i have the right to offer my op

is facing and actually going to it we should also have the new york times and other. major news organizations that they publish that actually sort of to but in a sort of crosses we're getting unconfirmed reports i must say at the moment that i do believe i just want to hear it one more time and we have i do believe that he's been acquitted of the main charge of aiding the enemy it's extra still to be confirmed still to be confirmed. could this mission his mission be considered a success in a shape or form considering what this guy has gone through but the flip side of it is considering what the you know the odds with his considering what he's put his fellow service mates through the danger is put them in has it been a success and any shape or form how would you sum it up well it's been summed up by the pentagon he said that no lives were put at risk by his disclosures and by exposing criminality here war crimes on the part of the military or intelligence agencies he's doing service to the public to our countries into our democracies it's as simple as that and i doing

what the line is between the "new york times" and wikileaks. and so the prosecution was trying to draw that line. as well, if he'd given the information to the "new york times" or the "guardian" or der spiegel, that would have a crime, but that's not this. wikileaks was in the business of this wholesale bulk posting of documents, that's not journalism. so that's something different, don't worry, judge, about the notion that this unprecedented aiding the enemy charge may somehow cripple investigative journalism going forward if this establishes a president. and the defense did not want that separation in the judge's mind at all. it emphasized greatly wikileaks is the same as the "new york times" for legal purposes in this matter. it's the same as t garden, the same as der spiegel. they were engaged in bringing information to light, publishing it for the world to see, the fact that some enemies are also in the world and have internet connection cans not be enough, the defense says, for the leaker to be guilty of aiding the enemy because if it is

that is why this thing's front page of "the new york times." if this was wells fargo, it would not be front page. goldman sachs manipulating the price of aluminum through warehousing. they don't control the flow in. you want to park your stuff in there, why park it there? not like goldman is putting a gun to their head. i can understand that bottleneck. anyway, "new york times" versus goldman sachs, watch for corrections. we think there is about five corrections. liz: they are to their credit just about on the second page. charlie: reporter i believe a pulitzer prize-winning. liz: thank you for the fair and balanced report. apple facing the fight of truth when he earnings come out after the bell, candy tex can the tect come back? we tell you what to expect coming up, really smart people focused on apple. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat mo dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to

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"the new york times" and "the washington post," goo? >> yes, i think yahoo! has has gotten smart to the landscape and there has been entertaining reporters from online sites but yahoo! is a very well-known brand. i don't think anybody at white house would have a problem distinguishing the yahoo! brand from somebody else. no, it wasn't that tough a sell but it's like anything else. just getting into the white house. >> with that many readers, there is a massive responsibility for what goes on the top of that page. president obama messes this up today or president obama does well today. both are legitimate stories but all of a sudden even just deciding which one goes on the top of the page becomes enormously important. >> yes. that's why i say it is a huge responsibility that our team has, you know, which one and how to position it, what is the tone, what is the angle? these are all considerations that are taking place, multiples and so it basically, like anything else, we do decide is it important? is it timely? is it relevant? is it fun? is it entertain, righ

media outlet like the new york times? >> there is an army intelligence report that manning is accused of leaking from the army counterintelligence center. it is adjusted wikileaks might pose a threat to the u.s. military. that was not a question that was answer by the report. he were able to find the enemy in fact would use wikileaks to go find u.s. government information. but in that report, describes wikileaks as an organization intent on basically stealing proprietary data of the united states government or even corporations. and doing this because they feel they have a commitment or desire to expose wrongdoing of governments. so they see manning as working on behalf of this organization. today, after we're done with this interview, professor ringler is going to be taking the stand for the defense. he is being put on the stand to talk about what is wikileaks? it is very important in this case that the defense gets out that wikileaks is a media organization read that one bradley manning engaged in his act, which i consi

mark halperin is joined by andrea mitchell of nbc news and peter baker of the "new york times." >> look, i think the overriding priority for the obama national security team is really one of stability, trying to keep the relationship from rupturing and trying to keep violence from spreading even worse than it has in the streets of cairo. you don't see them out there banging the drums and denouncing with full fury what's happening there. you don't see them criticizing even president morsi with full... either. they're trying very much to play a quiet game. president obama hasn't said one word in public about this yet. he's issued only a written statement expressing deep disappointment. his spokesman has called for calm and condemned violence. >> we continue tonight with the ongoing saga of n.s.a. leaker edward snowden. i'll be talking with people on both sides of that debate from the intelligence community to privacy advocates. philip mudd,otenberg, jesselyn radack and timothy murphy. >> and what has been revealed by mr. snowden violates at least two federal laws governing surrillance. se

publications, whether it's the new york times or, you know, whether it's network news. they're not. basically, they know what they know about the right by innuendo and rumor. so what i was doing was recommending some publications that they were seriously interested in finding out what the other side thought, that they might profit by taking a look at it. c-span: so what do you get out of the weekly standard? >> guest: i think the weekly standard is a terrific magazine it's a--it's a very smart, neo-conservative publication edited by bill kristol here in washington, which i think offers thoughtful takes on--on--on subjects which often are dealt with in a very conventional manner. i'll give you one example. they had a recent story on the whole john rocker controversy in which they talked about rocker--certainly not forgiving or--or excusing what he had said, but talking about the level of the reaction--the character of the reaction to him vis-a-vis other provocations, racist provocations from the left, which--which have elicited almost no outcry. c-span: the others that y

last week the "the new york times" front paged a really weird story about this whole mess. it was a weird story because of the way they reported it. ever since igramim todashev was killed, ever since they killed him, law enforcement officials have also been leaking to the media that igrahim todashev was a villain, that he basically confessed he and tamerlan tsarnaev who conveniently is also dead, they were the ones who committed that gruesome murder in waltham in 2011. and last week, "the new york times'" story on the front page bought that anonymously sourced theory and in fact reported it as if the paper had checked it out and knew it to be true somehow. "the new york times" writing igrahim todashev definitely did implicate himself and tamerlan tsarnaev in the waltham murders. "an fbi agent investigating the bombings interviewed mr. todashev and about tsarnaev in orlando, florida, apartment in may and he began to provide information about the waltham case." it has left some close to the victims skeptical about the official account of what happened. why would they be skept

so the question is, is "the new york times" guilty of aiding the enemy? what if ayman al zawahiri is watching "all in" and taking notes? a surprising ruling in court today on just what it means to aid the enemy, next. >>> for the first time since 1863, an american stood in court accused by the united states government of, quote, aiding the enemy. today a judge shocked a lot of people watching the case by finding private bradley manning not guilty of that charge. which carried with it a possible life sentence. manning was, however, convicted of 20 of the government's 22 charges. he will be sentenced tomorrow, and despite being found not guilty of aiding the enemy, the most serious charge, he still faces over 100 years in prison. the judge agreed with the government almost every step of the way in the trial of bradley manning, but on the charge of aiding the enemy, she rejected the government's audacious line of thinking which every american should be thankful for. you see, when navy s.e.a.l.s raided osama bin laden's compound in pakistan in 2011 they manag

part of that story in the "new york times" is that we are seriously considering the zero option. no denials from the white house or the state department that it's one of the options that state has on the table. it's a signal to karzai that if you don't agree to a status of forces agreement like we tried to get and failed to get actually with maliki in iraq. if you don't agree with that and one that immunizes the remaining u.s. troops, we will then be pulling out. it's a big, strong signal to karzai we're getting fed up. >> what were you going to say, peter? >> karzai's point of view. he's frustrated with president obama and the americans is his suspicions that the americans want to negotiate a separate peace with the taliban. our interests are not same as his at this point. the american interest is to disengage and to get out. and the taliban is no longer viewed necessarily in the same way as al qaeda, as a threat to the united states. if the taliban wants to parts tonight in government the united states is saying fine there could be some accommodation. karzai has to stay there i

an article from "the new york times" based on leaks to the "times" reporters. so the question is, is "the new york times" guilty of aiding the enemy? what if aman al zawahiri is watching "all in" and taking notes? a surprising ruling in court today on just what it means to aid the enemy, next. the same ag! it's red lobster's rlunch. seven selections made for your lunch break, like shrimp tacos and grilled shrimp salad with soup. all just $7.99. come in today for rlunch and sea food differently. ♪ yer always after me lucky charms! whoa. i forgot how good these taste! [ lucky ] ♪ they're magically delicious now get the unmistakable thrill... and the incredible rush... of the mercedes-benz you've always wanted. ♪ but you better get here fast... [ girl ] yay, daddy's here. here you go, honey. thank you. [ male announcer ] because a good thing like this... phew! won't last forever. mmm. [ male announcer ] see your authorized dealer for an incredible offer on the exhilarating c250 sport sedan. but hurry, offers end july 31st. >>> for the first time since 1863,

. >>> on the front page of "the new york times" today, the front page, this bombshell of a story was dropped today without much warning. the united states may leave no troops in afghanistan. the united states considers faster pullout from the afghan war. the times is -- it would instead be the way we left iraq, which is all u.s. troops out, everybody home. that would be a really big deal if that happened. this past december, the outgoing defense secretary leon panetta took a good-bye trip before he left office, before going home to whatever it is, his walnut orchard in california, or whatever. he accepted a good-bye speech. one master sergeant asked the secretary of defense a rather profound question that i have had tacked up on my office wall. the master sergeant said looking at the long-term plan, my understanding that the drawdown is not completely pulling out. so can we expect that five, ten years from now our children will still be serving that region of the world? and he said maybe, at the end of the longest war in american history, a war lasting 13 years, yeah, maybe, looking

over the weekend "the new york times" reported on more than a dozen, a dozen classified rulings from this court that have created essentially a secret body of law totally removed from public scrutiny. the "times" said this court has "quietly become almost a parallel supreme court." that, i think, is a scary quote enough. a parallel supreme court out of view. it is unlike any other court in the country. it would give the "schoolhouse

, the corporation, the new york times was a corporation. no one ever imagined. because that was so there would not receive full fledged high-level, highest level first amendment protections. so that was where i was coming from. certainly right that there is some conflict between most of my liberal friends and indeed some of my liberal political and social inflammations. but i think in this area there is nothing more important than trying to put the stuff aside, really try to put aside what side your on in the ideological battles of washington. i mean, that is why when one talks about the subpoena being served recently by the obama administration, the obama administration goes to court and gets a search warrant to search the home telephone numbers, the tom e-mails of fox news correspondent in washington. he tells a federal judge that the correspondence the his slightly guilty of violating the is peanut shack because he has too many questions of someone in the government who was empowered to know certain secret matters. he asked to much. lord

front page of "the >>> on the front page of "the new york times" today, the front page, this bombshell of a story was dropped today without much warning. the united states may leave no troops in afghanistan. the united states considers faster pullout from the afghan war. the times is -- it would instead be the way we left iraq, which is all u.s. troops out, everybody home. that would be a really bigeal if that happened. this past december, the outgoing defense secretary leon panetta took a good-bye trip before he left office, before going home to whatever it is, his walnut orchard in california, or whatever. he accepted a good-bye speech. one master sergeant asked the secretary of defense a rather profound question that i have had tacked up on my office wall. the master sergeant said looking at the long-term plan, my understanding that the drawdown is not completely pulling out. so can we expect that five, ten years from now our children will still be serving that region of the world? and he said maybe, at the end of the longest war in american history, a war lasting 13 years, yeah, ma

we talk to michael barbaro of the new york times, ken auletta of the new yorker and jodi kantor, of the new york times. >> no one questions that mike bloomberg is honest, that he speaks the truth, that his personal life has integrity to it. when you are asking voters to contemplate bringing anthony weiner into office you are asking them to cast a ballot for somebody who has been untruthful. for quite some time. >>rose: jodi. you know also one of the first rules of political pr and crisis is you get all the bad stuff out before you begin again. if you haven't hit bottom you must hit bottom before you can start rebuilding your reputation. >>rose: that's -- and so this thing that doesn't quite make sense to me, here is how they could embark on this new race with so much energy and all of this story-telling and this very sort of carefully woven tale of a bid for redemption knowing that they pretty much knew that something like this could happen. they -- they sort of -- they sort of stichte stipulated thatt might. but didn't these very savvy professionals know that this could have come along

this is from the front page of " the new york times." van from "the washington post" - and then "the financial times "this morning -- polandrom afghanistan, the plug on hamid karzai, this is "the baltimore sun editorial" - we will keep taking your phone calls on republicans pushing to delay the individual mandate of the health care law but joining us on the phone is that corresponded with "the national journal." 3:00 p.m. behind closed doors, the republicans will gather so what do you know about this meeting? guest: we now + that thi is their last attempt this month to try to come to an agreement about what they will do and immigration. we know that they are solidly thatng behind a plan involves border security first. that could mean many different things technically but they are emphasizing if they want to take a different approach than the senate did last year when they passed a comprehensive immigration bill -- if it would pass, it would legalize people almost immediately who are in the country illegally. we also know there is a lot o

but then there's this piece in "the new york times" yesterday by the way that said new york state officials say that people will see premium cuts of up to 50%. hundreds of dollars a year. so there's both good news and bad news. you can see whatever you want. >> bill: "the new york times," people -- right now if you go out on your own in new york state to buy health insurance it is about $1,000 a month because of the health exchanges that kick in january it will be like $350 a month. that's a huge cut. so the very day that that article comes out which is going to show like a real benefit of obamacare the house of representatives will try to repeal it again. don't you think if you were -- anybody -- any sane republican in the house ought to look at this and say maybe obamacare is here to stay for better or for worse. >> the mistake you just made was to lump the words sane and house i think you know better than those two go together. they're playing to their constituents back home. that's all it is about. the way that the districts are drawn is a lot of these republicans, not just obamacare wh

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the front page of the "new york times" today health plan costs for new yorkers set to fall 50%. we're talking going from $1,000 a month to $308 and one of the quotes, it's like going from bergdorf to filene. >> what would stop a red state governor from going ahead. it's hard to argue to citizens and residents for why they wouldn't want to go with us. >> you still have to convince information buy into this and there was an article in the "the washington post" that said essentially the administration is microtargeting people. if they want to convince young males, minorities, well they are going to go spike tv. they are looking very specifically at how they can go after the people that will most benefit. >> they have experience doing that kind of work from the campaign, of course. this is right. >> they kind of wrote the book in many ways. >> it's not enough to pass the legislation, not enough the supreme court deems it's constitutional you have to sell that hedgeation every day and i think the obama administration has to ramp that up. >> great conversation. thanks to both of you.

she has been with the "new york times" since 1993. she is working on a year-long series right now looking at health care costs and the united states. if you'd like to join the conversation, we have socialized if you're insured, you can call it that (202) 585-3880. if you are uninsured, call us at (202) 585-3881. and if you are a healthcare provider, you can call us at (202) 585-3882. what is a difference between those who have insurance and those who do not have insurance? birth in terms of their experience, they both will suffer financially. people who don't have insurance have to start from square one and see if they're qualified for medicaid or a state program, which might subsidize insurance, or look for a hospital because of some do now offer a package rates. but you have to be really careful to ask what is included in that package because there are often additional fees. people who have insurance are often blindsided because they think oh, well as many of my colleagues at the "new york times" did, i have insurance, this will cov

"the new york times" took issue with the decision and the ever increasing national security state. private manning faces the equivalent of life sentences on the espionage count. the government should satisfy itself with a more moderate sentence and then do something about its addiction to secrecy. and wikileaks founder julian assange denounced the verdict and talked about the repercussions. it is serious and it will mean the end of national security in general in the united states. >> assange was joined in his concerns by glenn greenwald who cautioned the decision would put the brakes on investigative journalism. >> this is how investigative journalism works is that people inside the government with a conscience come forward when they find out things that their government is doing and they're wrong and they disclose it to the world throughout media outlets and journalism. if you think that's criminal, you're essentially calling for the end of investigative journalism. >> manning still faces the maximum of 136 years behind bars, a precedent that will undoubtedly make nsa leaker edwa

the government, understands, wikileaks, the new york times, washington post, anybody in the middle could be accused of aiding the enemy. it is part and parcel to the war on whistleblowers. reporter who recently said he did the need to testify because of reporter .rivilege >> he is a well-known new york times reporter who wrote a book about iran. >> the court's decision was that he has no right to testify. >> implicating sterling in the trial as a whistleblower. >> it should be a warning to every publisher and journalist out there. they say that he is inextricably involved in the crime, without him, the crime would not have occurred. so they say the journalist, who is reporting on the whistleblower, is inextricably involved with the crime. think about what message that sends to every publisher in the country about using sources. it is a terribly serious problem, one that makes me very upset that people are not now seeing that and applying this to wikileaks. quotationeading that from the prosecution saying bradley manning deliberately compromised information through wikileaks, knowing that