. >> my name is mike ka irvin ringel, thank you. >> mr. silver man? >> good evening, president hwang and commissioners, david silver man on behalf of the spencer family. we're here to sdus whether there's any reason why this party did not respect the appeal period which is 15 days for a zoning administrator letter, and i'm holding in my hand the e-mail that i attached to my letter, it's from mr. ringel to corey teeg of the planning department, it reads has the draft letter of legitimization been authorized, this is dated may 29 before the zoning administration letter was authorized, so when you read his claim, he says he didn't have notice, but this belies this notion because he wrote asking about it before it was ever issued. the response, one day later from mr. teeg states when these letters are issued, they are listed on our website but not failed out to neighbors. so, at that point, it begame incumbent on mr. ringel to check the planning department website which he never did. he had more than two weeks to do that. the letter was not issued until j

. >> i too after looking and reading the briefs, i believe mr. ringel was aware that this process was going on and the fact that he's using -- bh the zoning administrator was out too far for us to rehear this, that would open up pandora's box for many rehearings, i think he was aware that this process was done and again as our president has said, the cu has already gone through the planning at this point, so i see no reason to break that up. >> we have a motion. >> move to deny the jurisdiction request on the basis that it was not timely and what else? >> i think there's no need to state a basis if you're denying the request. >> okay. >> and i appreciate the effort. mr. pacheco? >> we have a motion from the vice-president to deny this jurisdiction request, on that motion, commissioner fung? >> aye. >> president hwang? >> hao*i. >> commissioner hurtado? >> aye. >> and commissioner honda? >> aye. >> the vote is 5-0, jurisdiction is denied and ?o appeal may be filed on this administrator order, thank you. >> we'll mover on to item 5b which is anothe