iconic sense that osama bin laden was such a leader. al zawahiri is a much less figure -- a much more diminished figure than osama bin laden. it is important obviously the u.s. government made these unprecedented steps to shut down these embassies because the new head of al qaeda and the arabian peninsula is actually a protege of zawahiri. i think we have to keep our eye on the ball here and it's al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and proliferation of the al qaeda cells. in iraq, 3,000 people killed since april. a lot of that related to al qaeda, syria and north africa. >> that's just where i was going to go. no, no, it's very important. general clark, i want to go there. we can talk about a saudi arabia peninsula and al qaeda there but you've got this diffusion, people say being this is the new al qaeda and it's diffusion, it's not centralized anymore. here's the united states giving weapons to libyan rebels, to syrian rebels, as peter said also to iraqis. those weapons are all over the place and there's no telling who has them and ther

lou: new revelations today on what the psident was doing during the raid in which osama bin laden was killed by a navy s.e.a.l. >> most people were i the situation in the play, i can't tch, this kind of thing and the troops were risking their lives and they were playing. >> i was right there in our commander control center. so thatwe can make whatever decisions we need to make so we can allocatedditional resources. if we had more than a third of our unit hat was involved in an operation, i wen out with that element to be a part of that mission. because i felt that that was what i needed to be. we understand the commander-in-chief during one of the most daring raids, zero illumination, if according to him is correct, he will be wanting to make a decision at any point in time. lou: are you surprised? >> i expect a little more out of the commander-in-chief. >> let's be very onest. the bar has been lowered so that he can do what he pleases. when you look at what what has gone on in syria. i would not be comfortable and myself the american people, escially those who have loved ones in thes

is exactly what osama bin laden was trying to bring about. he did not he believed -- believe he could destroy buildings in order to do real damage. what he thought is we could turn on each other.

the bottom -- osama bin lauded was killed by a of it -- navy seals his personal assistant regarding the shocking detachment that day. regarding -- recounting a day filled with card games. >> in the dining roomhose people were down in the situation room and he said i will not be there i cannot watch this entire thing so he come of myself, thehite house photographer we must have played 15 seasons or 15 games of spades. lou: 15 games of spades to woody is now congressman it alan west of florida. good to see you. what is your reaction when you hear the former body man to say our troopsisking their lives to carry on a military objective that the president was playing a child's game? fifteen games of spades? >> based upon my 22 years of military experience, when i was a commander in i rectify sent out a night patrol that came in contact i was right there in the command and control center to make sure i monitor the situation and to allocate additional resources. if we had more than one-third of the unit involved in an operation i went out with them to be a part of the mission because i fel

osama bin laden. >> al qaeda is much weaker than it was when i came into office. >> osama bin ladens dead, and general motors as a live. >> thear in afghanistan is coming to a close. al qaeda is on the path to the feet. osama bin laden is dead. >> today the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the path of the feet. the remaining operators spend more time thinking about their own safety and plotting against us. lou: joining us now, radio talk-show host, fox news contributor, former reagan potical director, fox is political analyst. thank you both for being here. a defeat for al qaeda, and today we are watching the united states close 19 of our facilities in the middle east and north africa. your reaction? >> my reaction is that the president obviously did what he thought he had to to get reelected instead of talking in terms of an ongoing threat. he made some progress, but it's anngoing threat tt will be the the rest of our lifetime and we have to do whatever it is that it takes to eliminate them. we want to w shortsighted claims of victory. >> the president has both the

abc bills were in harm's way with the ultimate of all fishes to killed number one enemy osama bin laden and the president goes to play 15 games of spades? he is still a human being he did not want to watch in realtime he is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and also calls into question what he was doing on the night of september 11th last year when americans were also in harm's way we still have no report to what he was doing. lou: spade or a cards? >> put it on either one because we have no idea. >> i believe he went to sleep during the up and gauzy raid. that is the testimony from leon panetta before the senate when asked faugh by lindsay gramm did you go to bet? to the joint chairman go to bet? no. to the president go to sleep? item no. the president did not talk to anybody that night i believe he went to sleep. >> except hillary clinton he had attended a phone call with her after 10:00 p.m. then radio silence rom all of them. lou: turning to see diego it is probably a surge -- absurd scooter's the beginning of the mayor. i don't know when does it become the arbiter of stand

osama bin laden. >> al qaeda is much weaker than it was when i came into office. >> osama bin laden is dead, and general motors as a live. >> the war in afghanistan is coming to a close. al qaeda is on the path to the feet. osama bin laden is dead. >> today the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the path of the feet. the remaining operators spend more time thinking about their own safety and plotting against us. lou: joining us now, radio talk-show host, fox news contributor, former reagan political director, fox is political analyst. thank you both for being here. a defeat for al qaeda, and today we are watching the united states close 19 of our facilities in the middle east and north africa. your reaction? >> my reaction is that the president obviously did what he thought he had to to get reelected instead of talking in terms of an ongoing threat. he made some progress, but it's an ongoing threat that will be the the rest of our lifetime and we have to do whatever it is that it takes to eliminate them. we want to walk away from these shortsighted claims of victory. >>

lou: now this administration the man who brought osama bin nodded in the fir instance what influence will the administration have with that possibility will it ultimately embrace? >> karzai also suggested maybe the mullah could come back to run. i think if you indulge the fantasy popular elections can be called democracy and we will run with that i think we will find is islamic supremacist will rule islamic countries if we want to enable that it will be the loss of drone influence he will see that couny after country. >> and the definition if it is even appropriate such a policy should have a role in the middle east. >> if you empower your own enemies it is your own and doing. >> we appreciate as always whether they realize it or not the media has declared not the media has declared obama to be any new status this man is about to be the millionth customer. not the media has declared obama to be any new status would you mind if i go ahead of you? instead we had someone go ahead of him and win fiy thousand dollars. congratulations you are our one millionth customer. nobody likes to mis

al qaeda's on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> we have eliminated osama bin laden. that was our purpose. >> they ran on that, and they ran on saving detroit. listen to this. >> when my opponents and others were arguing we should let detroit go bankrupt. we made a bet on american workers and the ingenuity of american companies and our auto industry is back on top. >> we refused to throw in the towel and do nothing. we refused to let detroit go bankrupt. three years later, that bet is paying off in a big way. >> dana, detroit is bankrupt and al qaeda seems to have us on the run. your reaction? >> well, sean, i have friends who live in detroit, and they would say that detroit, for all of the promises that this administration made about that city, not a single one of them was delivered. where it concerns al qaeda, maybe joe biden literally meant decimated. only 10% of al qaeda was taken out. it's that other 90%, which has a shuttering 19 different embassies. instead of al qaeda running, it seems like we are. >> i would say that the entire thing that we're talking about

the second part tells the story of two men from yemen including one who was a driver for osama bin laden. miss poitras is still working on the third installment in that trilogy which is about u.s. surveillance of phone calls and

the bottom -- osama bin lauded was killed by a of it -- navy seals his personal assistant regarding the shocking detachment that day. regarding -- recounting a day filled with card games. >> in the dining room those people were down in the situation room and he said i will not be there i cannot watch this entire thing so he come of myself, the white house photographer we must have played 15 seasons or 15 games of spades. lou: 15 games of spades to woody is now congressman it alan west of florida. good to see you. what is your reaction when you hear the former body man to say our troops risking their lives to carry on a military objective that the president was playing a child's game? fifteen games of spades? >> based upon my 22 years of military experience, when i was a commander in i rectify sent out a night patrol that came in contact i was right there in the command and control center to make sure i monitor the situation and to allocate additional resources. if we had more than one-third of the unit involved in an operation i went out with them to be a part of the mission because

osama bin laden is dead. >> we decimated al qaeda central, we have eliminated osama bin laden. that was our purpose. >> well, colonel, it appears that's not the case. your reaction? >> well, bin laden is dead, but radical islam is alive and well. how is that arab spring working out for you, mr. obama? here's the problem. they're lying to themselves, they've been lying to us. this global warning is nothing more than evidence of the o-team's a businebysmal failure protection of america. and that report on the two leaders in yemen. remember, september is the 16th anniversary of the bombings in kenya and tanzania. anniversaries matter to these people, sean. this crowd didn't take that heed back on september 11. it means more suicide bombers, and the o-team can't even name the enemy radical islam. >> colonel, i've spoken to a number of senators and a number of congress men, and they say this threat is real. they're planning a big event as 9/11. you have a lot of sources. what are they telling you? >> you consider in the chatter that the lesson learned of benghazi was learned by the

osama bin laden is dead. >> we decimated al qaeda central, we have eliminated osama bin laden. that was our purpose. >> well, colonel, it appears that's not the case. your reaction? >> well, bin laden is dead, but radical islam is alive and well. how is that arab spring working out for you, mr. obama? here's the problem. they're lying to themselves, they've been lying to us. this global warning is nothing more than evidencef the o-team's a businebysmal failure protection of america. and that report on the two leaders in yemen. remember, september is the 16th anniversary of the bombings in kenya and tanzania. anniversaries matter to these people, sean. this crowd didn't take that heed back on september 11. it means more suicide bombers, and the o-team can't even name the enemy radical islam. >> colonel, i've spoken to a number of senators and a number of congress men, and they say this threat is real. they're planning a big event as 9/11. you have a lot of sources. what are they telling you? >> you consider in the chatter that the lesson learned of benghazi was learned by the ji

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than it was when i came into office. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive. >> the war in afghanistan is coming to a close. al-qaeda is on the path to defeat. osama bin laden is dead. >> today the core of al-qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the path to defeat. their remaining operatives spend time thinking about their own safety than plotting against us. >> pakistan where you get poke marks. >> if you notice they said al-qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan are on the run and he is exactly right. >> do you think that is the message they were trying to deliver from the white house to america during the 2012 election was they were being specific about al-qaeda and pakistan? that's not what they meant at all. that's why they are in -- i support them. but when you start watering down the global war on terror for political reasons -- >> it is not a question of watering it down. is al-qaeda left in afghanistan? no. is it in pakistan? no. >> all of that stuff was the reason why they played down benghazi before the election. it was alive. it was well, and it is coming b

osama bin laden. >> al qaeda is much weaker than it was when i came into office. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive. >> the war in afghanistan is coming to a close, al qaeda is on the path to defeat, osama bin laden is dead. today the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the path to defeat. their remaining operatives spend more time thinking about their own safety than plotting against us. >> if you notice, he said al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan are on the run and he is exactly right. >> do you think that's what americans, that's the message they were trying to deliver from the white house to america during the 2012 election that they were being specific about al qaeda in pakistan? that's not what they meant at all, that's why they're in -- i support them, but when you start watering down the global war on terror for political reasons. >> dangerous. >> the question, is al qaeda left in afghanistan, no, in pakistan, no. >> all that stuff was the reason why they played down benghazi before the election. all this stuff. it was alive, it was well,

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it shifts more when osama bin laden took over in 9/11. they can together and shared the same ideology area are we seeing a shift, [indiscernible] a little bit about technology, are we going to see more about cyber wars that will try to develop? >> we have seen a shift in how the fed operates in different countries. the mistake is to say that is not part of their global design. let me give you a case in point in yemen. a political platform was instituted. basically, this was the attempt to try to rebrand themselves and say, we can provide governance in basic service to you and basically adopting parts of the has law and green and set -- ourselves in the community. the associated press came out recently talking about all this and the prime focus was how to build a skate in yemen. as he is doing that and he is evolving politically, trying to figure out a new way forward for his organization. they are concerned -- concurrent with that. one of the key affiliates -- they are basically able to walk and chew gum at the same time. if you look coun

killed osama bin laden i mean that's what they wanted to do hillary clinton the wake of that also said this happens regularly you know which is kind of your point who are these other people that are the targets of these raids and also just the fact that we assassinated the most wanted terrorist in the world for a decade i mean we go in and assassinate him and any intel i mean it's just amazing i never really understood why people were so excited about clinton it got they they claim to have taken huge duffle bags of stuff out and then the west point military academy translated all of these documents that they said that they found and some of them are are online but i mean there's a lot of questions that are unresolved about what went on in that house that night what we actually gain from it one outcome of this of course the global war on terror is these forgotten prisoners and. then sitting there having greater now on a hunger strike and of course the rhetoric we hear is we can't trust the many government to take the prisoners so why does the u.s. government trust the yemeni government

bin laden to with you know in the terms of lindsey graham and all these other people they have every reason to be against al qaeda but we're giving them every reason to say well enemy of my enemy is my friend and you know blowback is i think inevitable you can't conduct these kinds of wars around the world killing innocent people in the pursuit of a few bad guys and pretend that it's not going to come back to hurt you i can't tell you the number of people that i've met abbie when i've gone to afghanistan or yemen or somalia who said you know we had a positive view of the united states but then when this night raid happened they killed my wife or this drone strike happened that way out forty six people in this village i decided that i'm against you i had one guy in afghanistan whose family were not even pashto in their fighting against the taliban one of them was a senior police commander after a night raid he said i want to put on a suicide vest and blow myself up among the americans i want jihad against the americans this is these are very real stories and you know for me it was rea

bin laden to with you know in the terms of lindsey graham and all these other people they have every reason to be against al qaeda but we're giving them every reason to say well enemy of my enemy is my friend and you know blowback is i think inevitable you can't conduct these kinds of wars around the world killing innocent people in the pursuit of a few bad guys and pretend that it's not going to come back to you i can't tell you the number of people that i've met abie when i've gone to afghanistan or yemen or somalia who said you know we had a positive view of the united states but then when this night raid happen. that killed my wife or this drone strike happened that way out forty six people in this village i decided that i'm against you i had one guy in afghanistan whose family were not even posh to be there fighting against the taliban one of them was a senior police commander after a night raid he said i want to put on a suicide vest and blow myself up among the americans i want jihad against the americans this is these are very real stories and you know for me it was really al

bin laden to with you know in the terms of lindsey graham and all these other people they have every reason to be against al qaeda but we're giving them every reason to say well enemy of my enemy is my friend and you know blowback is i think inevitable you can't conduct these kinds of wars around the world killing innocent people in the pursuit of a few bad guys and pretend that it's not going to come back to hurt you i can't tell you the number of people that i've met abbie when i've gone to afghanistan or yemen or somalia who said you know we had a positive view of the united states but then when this night raid happened that killed my wife or this drone strike happened that way out forty six people in this village i decided that i'm against you i had one guy in afghanistan whose family were not even pashto and they're fighting against the taliban one of them was a senior police commander after a night raid he said i want to put on a suicide vest and blow myself up among the americans i want jihad against the americans this is these are very real stories and you know for me it was

bin laden to with you know in the terms of lindsey graham and all these other people they have every reason to be against al qaeda but we're giving them every reason to say well enemy of my enemy is my friend and you know blowback is i think inevitable you can't conduct these kinds of wars around the world killing innocent people in the pursuit of a few bad guys and pretend that it's not going to come back to hurt you i can't tell you the number of people that i've met abbie when i've gone to afghanistan or yemen or somalia who said you know we had a positive view of the united states but then when this night raid happened they killed my wife or this drone strike happened that way out forty six people in this village i decided that i'm against you i had one guy in afghanistan whose family were not even there fighting against the taliban one of them was a senior police commander after a night raid he said i want to put on a suicide vest and blow myself up among the americans i want jihad against the americans this is these are very real stories and you know for me it was really all br

bin laden. now the president's former bodyguard, body man reggie love, says the commander in chief was not there the whole time. he said that he reportedly played cards to distract himself from the day-long ordeal. >> most people were like down in the situation room. he was like, i'm not going to be down here. i can't watch this entire thing. so he, myself, pete, the white house photographer marvin, we must have played 15 hands -- 15 games of spades. >> many officials declined comment but former counterterrorism adviser michael lighter who is now an analyst for nbc news, says mr. obama was present during the time of the actual raid. >>> a wildfire in park city, utah has destroyed 14 homes and is threatening hundreds more. it's also burned several outbuildings and boats. it's scorched now 2,000 acres and is just 25% contained. wildfires are now burning in at least 11 western states from alaska to new mexico. >>> tearful testimony from michael jackson's ex-wife at his wrongful death trial. debbie

. >>> plus president obama playing cards the night of the osama bin laden raid? >>> alfonso syria know collects a month's worth of stats in two games. >>> and the university of california study on what kind of cars the biggest jerks on the road drive. good morning, i'm mara schiavocampo. we begin with more uncertainty in egypt. this after security forces cracked down on supporters of the deposed president. newspapers at home and around the world all capturing the deadly violence right on today's front pages this morning. egypt's vice president is out and leaders are wondering if today will be another day of chaos. nbc's aymon moyahyeldin is in cairo this morning. >> reporter: people are trying to bring back a sense of normally after a day that was anything but normal. yesterday police broke up two major protests, this time 24 hours ago those operations are in full swing. the scope of the death toll is still being realized. right now health officials say at least 421 people were killed, more than 3,500 have been injured and that is not the final death toll. they s

the successor of osama bin laden , and the head of the yemen branch of al qaeda. a source telling fox news, the message involvedld-fashioned means we have seen al qaeda use before, including tory ears and that the message was circulated to a number of key al qaeda mbers. so, yes, intelligence officials are joining in the administration's war on words of fighting over whether the al qaeda uses conference calls or chat roomsnd will lay some of the measurable absurdity of it all tonight in the "chalk talk." also ahead, retired four-star army general and former army vice chief of staff, general jack keenan joins us to weigh in and now the white house is handling the security threats. at, a different type of threat that could potentially wipe out all cell phone communications, and injuring gps navigation and radio and television transmissions and all the while having the power to knock out this nation's power grid. we begin with the president making his first public statements on his administrati's latest actions in the war on terror. commenting to none other than of l

because of you, osama bin laden is no more. [applause] because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been hammered. the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the way to defeat. >> president obama with the marines this week. osama bin laden is gone, but his number two man is still around, and so is his personal assistant, who has planned an attack on american targets, leading to the closing of 19 embassies and the state department has ordered nonessential staff to leave the u.s. consulate and issued a travel warning. colby, the game is not over. >> the game is not over and it raises questions about the information that led to the decision and how we got it. it goes back to the mega-data that has been gathered. does it suggest there is value in what they have done? the activity that we have been reading about -- there is fruit from it that allows them to take the action they have taken? the threat has not gone away. >> how about this -- we do not want another benghazi? is that the message? >> it is clear part of the moti

yes, we did take out osama bin laden. and as soon as the next chief pops up we take him out in the central node of al qaeda. it's still dangerous. and it can transform itself. you've got people who spend their lives plotting how to hurt americans. so until every one of those people is eliminated or they change their motivations, we've got a continuing issue. i think what the president was trying to say was the central nervous system of the old al qaeda has been broken and broken down and decapitated with getting rid of osama bin laden. and that's a good thing, but it's not the end of it. >> thanks to each of you. >>> as many of you know, we have devoted much of our program over the past year to the benghazi attacks and their afteras a matter of fact. please join us on tuesday night at 10:00 eastern, the truth about benghazi. we're going to go back to that fateful night. and we're going to be speaking to the families of those who lost their lives. that is tuesday night at 10:00 and 7:00. 7:00 pacific, 10:00 eastern. >>> st

the successor of osama bin laden , and the head of the yemen branch of al qaeda. a source telling fox news, the message involved old-fashioned means we have seen al qaeda use before, including tory ears and that the message was circulated to a number of key al qaeda members. so, yes, intelligence officials are joining in the administration's war on words of fighting over whether the al qaeda uses conference calls or chat rooms and will lay of some of the measurable absurdity of it all tonight in the "chalk talk." also ahead, retired four-star army general and former army vice chief of staff, general jack keenan joins us to weigh in and now the white house is handling the security threats. what, a different type of threat that could potentially wipe out all cell phone communications, and injuring gps navigation and radio and television transmissions and all the while having the power to knock out this nation's power grid. we begin with the president making his first public statements on his administration's latest actions in the war on terror. commenting to none ot

in 2001, he was osama bin laden's personal secretary. the u.s. had been tracking his chatter, but in recent days, one official said, "a lot started blinking red." so now, look at the map, u.s. embassies shut across 7,000 miles. right in the middle, egypt. here in cairo, this is as close as you can get to the embassy. which is a good five-minute walk behind these concrete bricks and behind these bricks, two egyptian military armored personnel carriers just in case. >> a new travel alert warns americans all over the world. that means 27-year-old ashley brandenburg is taking small precautions. >> for me i don't go near the embassy. i don't go downtown, i avoid any protests or demonstrations. i keep to myself and stay within my neighborhood. >> reporter: and back home, authorities are also taking pre cautions. they say there's no specific threat, but they admit an air of mystery worldwide. homeland security officials increasing immigration checks and boosting security on public transit and airports. ant tonight security officials on cairo are on high

>> it is indisputable the elimination of osama bin laden was a major accomplishment in the effort against al qaeda. we have been clear and the president has been clear that the threat from al qaeda very much remains. >> reporter: republicans know al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is its deadliest affiliate of all. >> al qaeda is in many ways stronger than 9/11, because it mutated and spread and come at us different directions. >> reporter: tense times in the mid east, where the u.s. is having talks in egypt with a jailed senior leader of muslim brotherhood, amid fears the government is losing control of key cities. >> that will allow the sinai to become as you said wild west of terrorism where groups like al qaeda and hamas can coordinate and plot attacks. >> reporter: as the egyptian government deals with major problems in big cities like cairo, problems elsewhere, one of many reasons john mccain and lindsey graham are in egypt in consultation with president obama, trying to push them for quick return to civilian rule. bret? >> more on this with the panel. ed henry on the north lawn, tha

osama bin laden determined to attack the united states. my eyes popped out of my head when that happened. >> i know, i know. >> remember, this is the president who escalated the war in afghanistan. and we are now drawing down. but it just doesn't make any sense to say that he has totally recoiled, that he is afraid of conflict. he has blown these guys up with drones. he doubled down in afghanistan. if anything i think the critique you make is from the left. >> talk to some of the guys close in. he is pretty darn tough when he is in there. this guy is not some jimmy carter on this stuff. not on this stuff. thank you, michael crowley. not that there's anything wrong with jimmy carter but he wasn't exactly a fighter in that sense. jonathan capehart. we always agree, jonathan, that's very dangerous. up next, it's august and congress is out of session. it's hard to know. it's like calvin coolidge, he died, how did you tell. anyway, the birthers are back and this is "hardball." the place for politics. [ man ] look how beautiful it is. ♪ honey,

that osama bin laden was in a different neighboring country. they did take up the facility where they believe he was to be holed up. i am not aware of that particular table. on our twitter page -- a great point jim is making. basically, you are right. in many ways it is. revealed we were listening in on the communications between the leader of the team. what that unfortunately men is most likely we have their cell communications that enabled us to do that. means weation of that have bird that source. that source. you could imagine how tough it is to get the top leaders and a gold mine. that close to getting that close to the top leadership would be commended and is a gold mine. unfortunately would bring that source. we will no longer be able to use them in future operations. they will move to different sources. damaging revelation that of communication is true these individuals. the second point is it is disconcerting because if you look at the sensitive side the exploitation when we took down osama bin laden, what you will , you see a correspo

osama bin laden famously said that people follow the strong horse, not the week course. we are a strong country. i do worry that we look like a relatively weak horse going in the wrong direction. that makes things very dangerous. [applause] all of us have different things we would like done. for the most part under bush and cheney, everyone was operating in the same direction. under president obama, it is schizophrenic. i thought it was disgraceful and he had the investigations of the aa interrogators -- for number of years, every cia interrogator had to buy personal liability insurance to protect themselves against investigations. that is the mindset you are putting people in. with all the hypocrisy we have, during these attacks in the middle east, if some cia guy got a hold of some islamist and held his hide underwater to find out where the attack was coming from, they would say it was great three years -- the next day. three years from now, he would be indicted for war crimes. we have to keep in mind we are always at war with islamic terrorism. what we do overseas, th

this will now drive them to couriers, which were what led us to osama bin laden but were very hard to find and they're very hard to find discrete information from unless you compromise the courier. so this is a different situation. our intelligence experts will have to respond to it. but i wondered a little bit about all of the open talk here. >> you know the embassy security situation. we have a number of consulates and embassies that are not well defended. they are remaining closed. baghdad and kabul which were virtually fortresses have been reopened. but you can't put enough marines and you can't build enough walls to make these embassies safe. >> nor can you stay home in the compound for all time and still do your job effectively. everyone of these reps a degradation of our capacity and that's important. the ability to protect and take risks is in fact what the benghazi report is all about and it is not one way or the other. hopefully in fact the judgment is good. it seems to me good. the notion of closing for a week, while it is perhaps a little bit unusual, is not so terrible. w

osama bin laden is no more. we've got a new tower rising above the new york skyline. al-qaeda is on the run and bin laden is dead. but thanks to the incredible service of our men and women in uniform, al-qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is no more. we decimated al-qaeda's core leadership and brought osama bin laden the justice he deserves. al-qaeda has been decimated. osama bin laden is dead. >> steve: fast forward to today, think about this, it is extraordinary, during the run up to the election, that was the president where he was talking about al-qaeda is on the run. it's been decimated. talk about a double standard. think back to the time when george w. bush was there on the deck of that aircraft carrier and behind him was the big sign that said mission accomplished. right? the outrage from the main stream media was amazing. they pretty much wanted him impeached for having the audacity to say something like that and he didn't even say it. it was printed behind him. now you fast forward to the president of the united states in the last campaign talking about

i do know that osama bin laden was in a different neighboring country. after evaluation of options, president clinton did elect to send a cruise missile into sudan which did take care of the facility where it was believed to be hold up. he was not aware there. i'm not aware of that particular cable from the yemeni government. host: comment on our twitter page -- guest: a great point jim is making. basically, you are right. in many ways it is. t has now been revealed we were listening in on the communications between the eader of the team. what that unfortunately showed is it's revealed that most likely we had their cell phone or email communications that enabled us to do that. the revelation of that, not only the method but the specific individuals talking means we have now burned that source. you could imagine how tough it is to get the direct communication of the top leaders of your adversary and in our world of the c.i.a., that would be the gold mine. anyone that close to getting that close to the top leadership would be commended and is a gold mine.

just a year ago boasting al qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. >>gretchen: what's missing today in that discussion? an election. that was the campaign rhetoric back then. and how do you feel about that now in the sense that al qaeda in many respects could be bigger and much worse than it was ten years ago today. here's president obama during the campaign. >> i said we'd refocus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11, and today al qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. >>steve: exactly. it was very catchy, a bumper sticker, but now fast forward, al qaeda on the run? we're on the run over there. >>tucker: you wonder if they're drawing the right lesson from benghazi. it seems to me the real lesson is don't lie and don't stage a cover up. don't staeupbl your policy based -- don't stage your policy based on the last war. >>steve: the thing about benghazi, it was in the midst of a campaign. it was two months until big vote. they wanted to make sure everybody felt everything was a. okay. things were not a-okay over there and today is e

osama bin laden determined to attack the united states. my eyes popped out of my head when that happened. >> i know, i know. >> remember, this is the president who escalated the war in afghanistan. and we are now drawing down. but it just doesn't make any sense to say that he has totally recoiled, that he is afraid of conflict. he has blown these guys up with drones. he doubled down in afghanistan. if anything i think the critique you make is from the left. >> talk to some of the guys close in. he is pretty darn tough when he is in there. this guy is not some jimmy carter on this stuff. not on this stuff. thank you, michael crowley. not that there's anything wrong with jimmy carter but he wasn't exactly a fighter in that sense. jonathan capehart. we always agree, jonathan, that's very dangerous. up next, it's august and congress is out of session. it's hard to know. it's like calvin coolidge, he died, how did you tell. anyway, the birthers are back and this is "hardball." the place for politics. the last four hours... have seen one child f

saudi arabia the king of saudi arabia had had osama bin laden arrested at the iraqi border because osama bin laden was coming in to attack the reality also this that's . their only hope that there were four other countries that backed up our intelligence this was not random intelligence they were not blatant lies that was a lot of evidence that shows intelligence was wrong the israelis told us there was always a lot of evidence as the intelligence was down how to fairly straightforward the enemy of my enemy is my friend osama was an enemy of the us the us it was and then we have. sold only. because israel is a guy who loves a deal is going to ride it and the great advantage of all this is that in the end it turns out that now sadam is dead iraqis reason. i'm making a step forward and what is more you're wrong about the nature of the war going into iraq if you listen to what osama said he said while after we went into iraq he said iraq is the center of the arab world it's the tent pole it's the millstone around which the whole village builds and we have now turned them into an ally over h

it shifts more when osama bin laden took over in 9/11. they can together and shared the same ideology area are we seeing , [indiscernible] a little bit about technology, are we going to see more about cyber wars that will try to develop? >> we have seen a shift in how the fed operates in different countries. the mistake is to say that is not part of their global design. let me give you a case in point in yemen. a political platform was instituted. basically, this was the attempt to try to rebrand themselves and say, we can provide governance in basic service to you and basically adopting parts of the has law and green and set -- ourselves in the community. the associated press came out recently talking about all this and the prime focus was how to build a skate in yemen. as he is doing that and he is evolving politically, trying to figure out a new way forward for his organization. they are concerned -- concurrent with that. -- of the key affiliates they are basically able to walk and chew gum at the same time. if you look country by coun

you recall that it was that it was osama bin laden who organized a group of saudis after he reports the so that's out of iraq to invade iraq from saudi arabia the king of saudi arabia had had osama bin laden arrested at the iraqi border because osama bin ladin was coming in to attack the reality also the stats. are only out there were four other countries that backed up our intelligence this was not random intelligence they were not blatant lies there was a lot of evidence that shows intelligence was wrong the israelis told us there was always a lot of evidence fred shows the intelligence of down how to fairly straightforward the enemy of my enemy is my friend sam i was an enemy of the us the us it was an enemy of. israel so it is a god i was a boy loves a deal that was going to ride it and the great advantage of all this is that in the end it turns out that now sadam is dead iraq is resuming freedom making a step forward and what is more you're wrong about the nature of the war going into iraq if you listen to what osama said he said when after we went into iraq he said iraq is the cen

apparently osama bin laden was killed around 3 p.m. washington, d.c. time. remember the president came out late that night, somewhere around 10 or 11 to say to the american public osama bin laden had been killed. now his former personal assistant is saying in an interview that later on at night the president was doing something that some people might be surprised at. >> typically like the weekends he'll work like a half day. and this sunday, i mean we worked -- i mean, we were there until almost, i think he went on tv at midnight, almost midnight, and sat around in the private dining room kind of like -- most people were in the situation room and he was like i'm not going to be down there. i can't watch this entire thing. he, myself, the white house photographer, we must have played 15 games of spades. >>brian: some people say -- he said during the entire thing. some said he was killed at 3 and then there was a long process, four hours until they identified the body. maybe that was the time. however, he said during the entire thing, makes you think he was pl

. >> al qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: and months into the second term. >> al qaeda is a shell of its former self. >> reporter: in light of benghazi and the terror alert, graham says far from it. >> after benghazi, the al qaeda types are on steroids thinking we are weaking and they are stronger. >> is it fair to say al qaeda is on the path of defeat? >> most people who cover these issues understand that al qaeda core is the afghanistan/pack stain base. there's no question the al qaeda core has been greatly diminished. we have made clear over the past several years aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is a concern. >> reporter: al qaeda core is evolving. the man leading aqap is believed to be al qaeda's number two in command. >> i think what we have seen particularly since the death of osama bin laden is a metamorphosis of sorts within al qaeda. >> reporter: the question is whether the new al qaeda has the capacity to pull off a 9/11 style attack. the closing of embassies, some that are like bunkers a reminder the terror network can still m

people would know osama bin laden originated out of saudi arabia base. it's not a surprise there would be activists and terrorists that would come out of that area but there has been active training in yemen and saudi side of the border for a long time just like the afghanistan-pakistan border. so the flow is troubling. we would like to believe the kingdom of saudi arabia would be an active partner in identifying and stopping that just as much as the government of yemen wants to. >> heather: so the u.s. navy adding to the planes to the hundreds of millions of dollars of aid we've given yemen. is that the best to stop al-qaeda there? >> i think we have a series of bad options. we have series of weak institutions in countries of concern. in many of them we have to deal with the military as the most available non-sectarian force for influence in these countries. so for security and politics in some ways, dealing with the military is important. our u.s. strategy tends to emphasize intelligence and attacking from a distance which makes sense when war enter ve

plus, what else president obama did the night of the osama bin laden raid. the grapevine is coming up next. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. >>> some fresh picks from the political grapevine. two years ago, seal team 6 moved into the compound where osama bin laden was hiding. president obama was playing cards. despite the pictures released by the white house of the president and his team in the situation room, former obama body man, reggie love, says the president turned to distraction to make it through tense hours. >> sat around in the private dining room kind of like -- most people were in the situation room. i'm not -- i can't be down there, i can't watch this entire thing. he, myself, and the white house photographer, marvin, we made -- must have played 15 hands, 15 games of spades. >> that was part of an interview love did last month at ucla, hosted by the artists and athletes alliance. the group had posted it online but has since

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to acknowledge that osama bin laden is a product of the muslim brotherhood. president obama went to egypt in 2009 right at the beginning of his presidency to talk about religious tolerance and how we all need to live together and egypt was the gateway to the muslim world for a better relationship and now that christian churches are burning he's not standing up for christianity in the way that he should be. >> let me show you something. i should have thought of this earlier. this is from "the blaze" today. this is john kerry today. that's john kerry. he's kite boarding. do you ever go kite boarding? i don't even know what that is. there is our secretary of state. he's kite boarding and president of the united states is out there swinging a golf club every two seconds. >> don't forget in this day, the president can sign a law in boston. he can sign an executive order in california. he can sign a law -- so when he brings with him an entire apparatus when he travels. >> egypt is burning and secretary of state is out kite boarding. >> let's remember a couple weeks