eugene robinson, you know this guy eugene robinson, you can't get more crazy left, i think eugene robinson, i think people like nick and "the new york times." >> he's ready to go. >> what strikes me is what you were saying a minute ago, laura ingraham and palin and limbaugh -- >> that's right. big gung ho people in iraq. doesn't it come down to this one, down to president obama? >> yes. >> it does. that's what it is about. i think the affirmation conservatives would be supporting that action but they loathe the president so much and they think he's such a screw-up that whatever he does, they are going to oppose. >> you know, it hurts my heart to say it because i want to give everybody the benefit of the doubt but when i listen to their reasoning, the reasoning doesn't rhyme, sync with what they were saying when president bush said it's time to go after suddam hussein. >> i disagree with you. i think there is good reason why people like rand paul and other republicans oppose. they sincerely believe that president obama does not know what he's doing. >> no, no, no. that's a different issue.

eugene robinson, you know this guy eugene robinson, you can't get more crazy left, i think eugene robinson, i think people like nick a "the new york times." >> he's ready to go. >> what strikes me is what you were saying a minute ago, laura ingraham and palin and limbaugh -- >> that's right. big gung ho people in iraq. doesn't it come down to this one, down to president obama? >> yes. >> it does. that's what it is about. i think the affirmation conservatives would be supporting that action but they loathe the president so much and they think he's such a screw-up that whatever he does, they are going to oppose. >> you know, it hurts my heart to say it because i want to give everybody the benefit of the doubt but when i listen to their reasoning, the reasoning doesn't rhyme, sync with what they were saying when president bush said it's time to go after suddam hussein. >> i disagree with you. i think there is good reason why people like rand paul and other republicans oppose. they sincerely believe that president obama does not know what he's doing. >> no, no, no. that's a different issue. >>

i'll take eugene robinson's question from earlier this morning. does the president believe he should strike syria or not? >> the president does believe that we need to take action in reaction to syria's blatant violation of this long-standing international prohibition against the use of chemical weapons. he's made that case. he also believes, because there is not an imminent threat to u.s. national security, and because his military commanders have told him that they are prepared to strike and that the strike's impact will not be significantly affected whether we do it right away or in a week or in a month, that we ought to go to congress because that's the way he believes the system ought to work and we ought to make the case to congress and congress ought to take action, vote, and authorize this strike. so, you know, remember, many, many members of congress including those who signed a letter called on the president so ask congress to authorize. he is doing that. he understands that this is a very tough situation, a difficult vote where a countr

in the capitol, columnist eugene robinson and msnbc analyst. and in philadelphia msnbc contributor professor james peterson. james, let me start with you. the headline of your latest peplum column nearly identical to an op-ed by rand paul. world upside down, dogs and cats living together? what's going on here? >> you know, i'm getting worried about this, jonathan, because he and i were on the same side in the question of drones and any possible domestic use of drones and so i guess worried when i'm agreeing with rand paul too often. but actually, on the substance of syria policy, i think he and i are comfortably on different sides of the fence. what we agreed on today was the -- was a concept of exceptionalism. i'm not sure we mean exactly the same thing when we talk about american exceptionalism. but we both believe it exists. >> so you agree that we can't take putin's election at yours seriously. i want to read more of the op d op-ed. quote, america should not act militarily because it should not join the same side as al qaeda. russian should

and that's the default fight. >> howard dean, steve schmidt, eugene robinson. thank you all for joining me tonight. coming up. conservative scare tactics to try to stop young people from enrolling in obamacare. if obamacare is so bad, why do opponents have to lie about it to convince people to stay away from it? and john mccain answers vladamir putin's "the new york times" op-ed piece with a piece on a russian website. we now know the real author of the first novel wriflten by an african-american woman, written years ago by a recently escaped slave afraid to use her real name on the manuscript. an amazing and moving story that you are going to want few hear. that's coming up. >> here to challenge a member of the international olympic committee over russia's anti-gay laws. that's coming up. with the city and military veterans for the coca-cola foundations troops for fitness an innovative program that's inspiring hundreds of people with fun ways to move a little more stay active and to see how good a little balance can feel part of our goal is to inspire more tha

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and in washington, eugene robinson. the debate over funding the government, including republican opposition to obama care, it's officially under way on capitol hill. majority leader harry reid will reportedly move forward with the spending levels proposed by house republicans and as expected remove any language to defund the president's health care law. the first vote on the plan could come as early as wednesday. did eugene just moan? i think he did. yesterday senators reid and ted cruise debated the bill and obama care on the senate floor. take a listen. >> the bill defunds obama and his health care plan is dead on arrival in the senate. we're not going to bow to tea party anarchists. america will know exactly who to blame -- republican fanatics in the house and senate. >> i wish the majority leader had not objected to doing so right now. i wish the majority leader had not said he intends to continue to use the threat of a default. to engage in brinksmanship, to try to force obama care on the american people. >> i thin

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i'm rachel maddow with reverend al sharpton, and eugene robinson and from washington lawrence o'donnell from "the last word" and chris matthews of msnbc's "hardball." chris, we hear from washington the speech has been reworked, reworked, reworked up until the last moment. no advanced excerpts of the speech being distributed. we thought this would be the president trying to convince the u.s. public to support a call for u.s. military action in syria. now it seems like, we're expecting the president to try to convince the public to trust a diplomatic effort led in part by russia what do you think -- which is the harder sell? >> i will try to make the sell for russia right now. i think we are dog trained to look down our nose at russia. the right hates russia. face it they want to hate russia. that's the case with the neocoms who have never gotten over the cold war. russians have interests. we have interests. they worry look we worry. our worries coincide. that could be a good thing. some one predicted the end of the cold war would shift a world's conflicts and world's alliances. for half

. >> are analyst mike halperin, eugene robinson on the set with us. former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst ste steve rattner and john mecham. we'll be talking about the pope in just a second. also new information on the potential motive behind the navy yard shooting and the effort to defund obama care, mark halperin we'll get to that in a second. how would you characterize where that stands? >> not since danny bonaducci had a man mishandle his career. >> pope francis is turning heads talking about the focus of the catholic church. he said the church has become obsessed with preaching about gay, abortion and contraception. and that people want pastors not clergy acting like bureaucrats or government officials. nbc's ann thompson has the story. >> reporter: in his short papacy pope francis preached loudest with gestures. it's the pope's words making headlines as he spells out his vision of the catholic church in a remarkable frank interview published in the jesuit magazine "america." we cannot insist only on issues related to aborti

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. >> pulitzer-prize winning columnist and associate editor of "the washington post" eugene robinson. >> i always wanted a pulitzer prize. >> there you go. >> borrow it. >> chairman of deutsch incorporated donny deutsch. >> and gene always wanted things you've had. >> in washington, "new york times" reporter jereny peters and chief washington correspondent for "the new york times" david sanger with us as well. thanks for being with us this morning. big show today. >> yesterday, you know, i was on the phone an awful lot and even before that, you started hearing people talking about america's response to this. >> yeah. >> and every senator, every congressman, every staffer on capitol hill, told me the same thing. you know, i see these polls that say 20% of americans support the intervention and 80% oppose it. i'd like it to find those 20% because they're not there. i'm stunned. gene and -- i'm sure you've heard the same thing. >> yeah. i mean it's pretty clear that there's not popular support for a strike. >> that's an understatement. >> period. >> and they're not finding it. so i -- i

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associate editor of the "washington post" and eugene robinson. press secretary and msnbc robert gibbs and white house correspondent for the "huffington post" sam stein and correspondent for bloomberg business week josh green. we will get right to the news. i didn't want to crystallize what has been going on in five seconds or less. >> it is confusing. i think it's -- i don't know what the word is. >> chaos is the local industry. >> that's what we have been seeing all the time. this is different. special chaos. for breakfast every morning. we got it. >> this is like chaos part 7. >> we will let the story speak for itself. three days before the threat of the government shutting down becomes a reality. later the senate will vote on a bill to fund the government. harry reid will look to amend the bill, stripping it of any language to defund obama care. lawmakers will have to accept the changes or risk of a government shut down. yesterday the health care plan remained the center of the debate and it was republicans taking on republicans or more specif

. ♪ >> turning to eugene robinson, columnist for the "washington post" and political analyst. both sides, gene, parked their camps, okay? they're all camped out, totally separate, different worlds, can't communicate. now we're into the pin the blame game. we have boehner taking on a commercial saying that the president will work with putin but he won't work with us. you have rubio, rubio saying that the president has to stop threatening to shut down the government. when they pin the blame game, what does that tell us? >> number one, you hear the republicans yelling that. this is the stupidest brinksman ship episode we have had yet. the republicans don't want to do this. a smart republicans don't want to cause a government shutdown or a government default. they're doing it anyhow and they can't stop themselves. it is just crazy. are we out of touch with reality to think that bob dole and tom daschle voices from the past could bring in reason? >> i don't know. i hope so. let's get ban ki-moon to come in and mediate, too. anything would help at this point because the republican p

eugene robinson and michael crowley. gene, you first. you think big about these things and i am so happy that there is now a chance to avoid a war. a chance. >> yeah. i think from today's performances by obama and rouhani, i think on balance the only losers are the writers of "saturday night live." they don't get to get mahmoud ahmadinejad like they used to but you have to say it's a hopeful day. in fact there's some potential jaw jaw about to -- >> the fact rouhani comes in and says he wants to negotiate with the united states. he knows the terms. they all know the bottom line, they can't have a nuclear weapon. is he trying to waste our time while they're trying to building a weapon. >> exactly. so the question becomes continued enrichment, verification, inspection, control and all the questions about a nuclear program. >> michael crowley, i hope there's a deal somewhere short of them having a weapon. but is there a deal here potentially? >> well, chris, i think there is potentially a deal, but i think we're still a long way from it. so

the "washington post" pulitzer prize winning columnist eugene robinson and "the huffington post's" howard fryman. howard, i want to start with you. you've been out there all day getting your head around this thing. what's it tell us about our city, we're so used to this, the navy yard that's always been there, doesn't make any noise, so near us, along the marine barracks, along the river, near the stadium now, and all of a sudden, 12 people dead today? >> well, chris, i left washington early this afternoon to come up to new york, and it actually was, for the purposes of understanding this, gave me some useful distance. we don't realize often that we live among the actual, literal institutions of our lives, of our government in d.c., that we're surrounded by big institutions that we don't even recognize or realize. i mean, i agree with you, the navy yard down by the anacostia is a famous, historic place where important work is still going on, command and control facilities and acquisition facilities for the navy, a place that's 200 years rich in history and actually battled over and fought

>> let me read a bit of what eugene robinson put in his op-ed. the use of poison gas a forb forbidden weapon should shock the conscience. if assad faces no consequences, they'll draw the conclusion they may use chemical weapons with impunity. other tyrants will be tempted to follow suit. this president discussed rwanda and former president clinton discussed the lack of reaction from the world and this country as it relates to rwanda. i think no one wants to see us go to war, but are there cases where the pain and scars that still very much exist, loss of life in iraq and afghanistan, should never be forgotten, but are there ever or will there ever be a situation where the voice of leadership from this country needs to be heard and needs to be the loudest? we're looking at 400 children killed and thousands others there with them. >> i think you're right, tamron. there will be cases and there are cases. but if the united states is going to assume its role of policement to the world, which is what we're talking about and moral leader to the world, w

eugene robinson. told us -- >> everybody does. >> if you get pulled over by the police, turn on the lights, keep your hands up here. it's a matter -- as gene said, it's a matter of life or death. >> don't do or say anything that might be threatening. >> it makes the father/son relationship much more complicated. >> yeah. >> i'm sure you've had that conversation with your son, have you not? >> i have. it's an embarrassing conversation. i would rather have the birds and bees conversation. that's an easier conversation to explain why it is you can't get a taxi and yet your neighbors that are right in front of you in the the same soccer outfit in the rain can get a taxi. and you can't. and why my son is -- >> you'll have your assistant go out and hail a taxi. >> yeah. >> because it would be easier for your assistant to get a taxi than me. >> what's the answer when your son says why? >> but what you're forgetting to say, may i remind you. >> please. >> what you're forgetting to say -- >> she's a director.

eugene robinson and michael crowley. gene, you first. you think big about these things and i am so happy that there is now a chance to avoid a war. a chance. >> yeah. i think from today's performances by obama and rouhani, i think on balance the only losers are the writers of "saturday night live." they don't get to do ahmadinejad like they had. you have to say it was a hopeful day. but you have to say it's a hopeful day. in fact there's some potential jaw jaw about to -- >> the fact rouhani comes in and says he wants to negotiate with the united states. he knows the terms. they all know the bottom line, they can't have a nuclear weapon. is he trying to waste our time while they're trying to building a weapon. >> exactly. so the question becomes continued enrichment, verification, inspection, control and all the questions about a nuclear program. >> michael crowley, i hope there's a deal somewhere short of them having a weapon. but is there a deal here potentially? >> well, chris, i think there is potentially a deal, but i think we're st

melissa harris-perry, host of melissa harris-perry on msnbc and "washington post" columnist eugene robinson. joining us from washington is senior fellow for middle eastern studies at the council of foreign relations, steven cook author of "the struggle for egypt." steven, i'd like to go to you first and just talk about the strategy here. it seems like you started out as someone who was in favor of intervention. but in the intervening weeks and days you have come to put it out there that going into syria or intervening in syria as it were will only exacerbate the situation. can you tell us more about your views on what the american government should or should not be doing? >> sure. thanks so much, alex. i wrote actually way back in january 2012 that if we were going to take the policy that assad must go seriously, the only way he was going to go was through a military intervention of some sort, that he was likely to kill his way out of the political challenge that what was then an uprising, was providing. in the interim 18 months, the syrian civil war has evolved in a way that suggests to me

let me read for you what eugene robinson wrote today in the "water post." republicans scream obama care is sure to fail but what they really fear is that it will succeed. republicans are afraid it will not prove to be a bureaucratic nightmare that americans in fact will find they actually like it. >> i think the challenge is for many americans, for people who don't dislike the health care they currently have, they're wondering why did the federal government have to come in and fix what isn't broken for lots of people. that's why you have big numbers of people who don't feel good about the bill. not because they have something against the president but they like the health care they have. if health care isn't broken for everybody, why not fix it for just the folks who have it broken. >> i'm not sure there's many americans out there that actually believe that our health care system wasn't broken. >> oh, for many americans this is the best system in the world. >> you had exploding rising costs. yeah, there's good quality of health care for those who can afford

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eugene robinson continues at this debate on the editorial page, the washington post" today under the headline "hitting home." he goes on to write that ofonents argue that, instead mass should focus on the shooters being psychologically disturbed but many are simultaneously trying to best to repeal obamacare, which will provide access to mental health services to millions of are now uninsured. let's go see yvonne from laurel, maryland, on our democratic line. good morning. caller: yes. -- once to sayex nurse a nurse him a always a nurse. i did work mental health in area c in washington dc. they closed the facility long, long ago when they were cutting back on mental health. and they sent some of the people westaint elizabeth and the -- the rest of the northwest. listen -- it's obvious that these people have problems. since congress don't want to do anything about guns, let's at least give these people a chance their feelings. at all these innocent people. they keep striking out at the people they can reach, which are innocent people. up some we should open of these mental health facil

. >> eugene robinson republicans in the house are like a bunch of 3-year-olds playing with matches. they cannot constitutionally defeat obama care. >> i don't want to get too technical but you're asking me technical. the continuing resolution affects appropriations for discretionary accounts, not entitlements. so if they won on defunding, only 20% of obama care would be stopped, 80% of its entitlements would not be affected. that's why i keep telling you. i'm an old omb under reagan. you can't knock out an entitlement through a continuing resolution. you just can't. that's the flaw in this whole process. >> it's an important point. and we know you know what you're talking about. >> it's a weird -- i talked to ted cruz about this. ted cruz is smarter than i am. ted cruz is a u.s. senator. he's a lawyer. but he's wrong on this point. he's wrong on this point. >> he's too angry. >> a c.r. does not affect entitlements. >> we will see you tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> "the kudlow report" airs weeknights at 7 p.m. eastern. >> bob pisani talking to the head of the big board. >> y

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>> eugene protsman's homicidal confessions. >>> peekaboo. peekaboo. nothing but a bunch of crooks over here. >> among the nearly 3,000 male inmates at the santa rita jail in oakland, celebrity rapper danyle robinson or dru down considers himself just another one of the guys. >> come on. >> that's why he's chosen to turn down the jail's offer to house him in protective custody or pc. >> i don't want to be treated no different. i'm just the person that i am. i could be pc'd up but no, that's never going to be me. i'm walking the main line at all times. >> watch this. this is rock 'em sock 'em dano. >> what you going to do with it? you see that. talk to him. >> like that. >> hello. >> robinson is currently in jail for violating his probation by driving under the influence and evading police. but he says run-ins with the law inspired his music. >> i started rapping probably when i was 16 when i got out of juvenile hall. it was just like if you didn't know the streets, i couldn't make music. what would i rap about? you know, you need to be on the streets t