number one, i was in mogadishu with an aviation track unit. unfortunately, one question is positive and one is negative. i will start with a negative first. most of the journalists, don't get me wrong, because congrats on writing this book, but most of the guys are pretty much in the way between that and the reporters and cnn -- [laughter] i mean come you guys are hard to keep out of the way. the second part of this is i would like to congratulate you on doing your book there to the fact that when i get back to the states come at it seemed like nobody knew anything about somalia and we were just showing the way. it was like you guys didn't do what you're supposed to do. and it wasn't really worth anything. and i will tell you that's a hard thing to deal with when we were coming back. especially if you spend most of your time over there doing the best you can do. >> when were you there? when were you there, caller? >> i was there from 1992 to august of 1993. >> thank you for your service. i think newspaper people can get in the way. but you are

. >>> so mallians say they carried out the aat that time in mogadishu. the government is marking its first year in office, and in a series of recent attacks highlighted the administration's lack of control. this from mohammed. >> reporter: these other men are struggling to bring back order in somalia's volatile cap taffle mogadishu. they're members of the police force and can't afford to relax. they remain on the streets day and night tlieing to stop attacks. there's ieds and suicide bombings still almost every day, but the president believes that a loot has been achieved in the past year. >> the throws hand grenades here and there killing spepeople in city is what is going on now. a year ago we were having a front in mogadishu where they were fighting. i don't know that security is deteriorating. >> reporter: for the first time in 20 years people feel confident enough to come out and enjoy themselves on the pure white sands of the beach, the city's most popular stretch of the indian ocean coast. while the stream of returnees, investors and aide workers

about the al qaeda linked terrorists behind the nairobi mall attack from mogadishu to minnesota, recruiting at an alarming rate. we find out more about the terrorists next door. >> after five months and 50 witnesses closing arguments under way in the michael jackson wrongful death trial. his mother and children asking for $1.5 billion. could they walk away empty-handed? >> announcer: keep it right here, america,

estimates 20 people left minnesota for mogadishu. >> that's the tip of the iceberg. >> reporter: so you think there are far more? >> far more. >> reporter: abdirizak bihi, a local somali leader, says the number is more like 60. what is the appeal? >> it's not about heaven, it's not about ideology, it's about engaging a young man who's lost. they hold his hand, they take him to the mosque, they raise him, they indoctrine nate him. they blame everything he's complaining about on the infidel. they give him a target. >> reporter: mr. bihi told us al-shabaab does not tell the young recruits that their ticket to somalia is only one way and those who want to return may face execution and yet, scott, the young men continue to head to africa. the last one left here 13 days ago. >> pelley: dean reynolds. thank you, dean. late today we learned that the former f.b.i. agent will plead guilty to leaking classified information to a reporter. the attorney general calls that leak one of the most serious in american history. prosecutors say donald sachtleben told the associated press about an undercover

estimates 20 people left minnesota for mogadishu. >> that's the tip of the iceberg. >> reporter: so you think there are far more? >> far more. >> reporter: abdirizak bihi, a local somali leader, says the number is more like 60. what is the appeal? >> it's not about heaven, it's not about ideology, it's about engaging a young man who's lost. they hold his hand, they take him to the mosque, they raise him, they indoctrinate him. they blame everything he's complaining about on the infidel. they give him a target. >> reporter: mr. bihi told us al-shabaab does not tell the young recruits that their ticket to somalia is only one way and those who want to return may face execution and yet, scott, the young men continue to head to africa. the last one left here 13 days ago. >> pelley: dean reynolds. thank you, dean. late today we learned that the former f.b.i. agent will plead guilty to leaking classified information to a reporter. the attorney general calls that leak one of the most serious in american history. prosecutors say donald sachtleben told the associated press about an undercover age

so this is too far what has happened in the court in somalia or in mogadishu. all of them is just showing the people that they are still fighting. they are not fighting and they use it to fight of the militant. so we know nature of this (inaudible) into the society staying there inside of the road and then (inaudible). >> rose: so they killed more than 60, at least more than a dozen have been either captured or killed -- of the attackers. do you know whether there were any americans among the al-shabaab who undertook this siege and the killing of more than 60 people at the shopping mall? were there any americans? >> so far what we are hearing is there are somali americans who are included in it but we don't have the details yet. it's only then will we know. >> rose: how long will it snake will the kenyan government do that? >> of course the kenyan government will do that? >> rose: how long will it take them identify the al-shabaab members? because they have some in custody they can interrogate. >> al-shabaab, first of all, they claimed they are responsible for

so this is too far what has happened in the court in somalia or in mogadishu. all of them is just showing the people that they are still fighting. they are not fighting and they use it to fight of the militant. so we know nature of this (inaudible) into the society staying there inside of the road and then (inaudible). >> rose: so they killed more than 60, at least more than a dozen have been either captured or killed -- of the attackers. do you know whether there were any americans among the al-shabaab who undertook this siege and the killing of more than 60 people at the shopping mall? were there any americans? >> so far what we are hearing is there are somali americans who are included in it but we don't have the details yet.ill we kno. >> rose: how long will it snake will the kenyan government do that? >> of course the kenyan government will do that? >> rose: how long will it take them identify the al-shabaab members? because they have some in custody they can interrogate. >> al-shabaab, first of all, they claimed they are responsible for the mat sore there

. >> al shabaab is a group that started in 2006 with the foremation of the islamic course union in mogadishu somalia. >> rose: '96. >>> i'm sorry n 2006. essentially, a failed state in somalia and islamic course union came to govern. and then this is a more radical wing. the more militant armed wing. when the al shabaab started, there was also east africa al qaeda cell which was hiding, the ones who were responsible for the '98 bombings of our embassies in nairobi and tanzania. they were basically undercover hiding in somalia. and they lifted their head, i would say essentially hijacked the al shabaab movement. so the islamic course union always had moderate elements, civil society element, and more radical and extreme elements and these became the militant, military wing of it. >> rose: what would you add to that eli? wel>>, i would say that at this point what we know is that al shabaab has followed the pattern of a loll of al qaeda related groups. which is that they have proven gruesome in the ability to cause these mass casualty attacks. we saw similar kind of thing from al shabaab in uga

. >> al shabaab is a group that started in 2006 with the foremation of the islamic course union in mogadishu somalia. >> rose: '96. >>> i'm sorry n 2006. essentially, a failed state in somalia and islamic course union came to govern. and then this is a more radical wing. the more militant armed wing. when the al shabaab started, there was also east africa al qaeda cell which was hiding, the ones who were responsible for the '98 bombings of our embassies in nairobi and tanzania. they were basically undercover hiding in somalia. and they lifted their head, i would say essentially hijacked the al shabaab movement. so the islamic course union always had moderate elements, civil society element, and more radical and extreme elements and these became the militant, military wing of it. >> rose: what would you add to that eli? >> well, i would say that at this point what we know is that al shabaab has followed the pattern of a loll of al qaeda related groups. which is that they have proven gruesome in the ability to cause these mass casualty attacks. we saw similar kind of thing from al shabaab in u

. >> al shabaab is a group that started in 2006 with the foremation of the islamic course union in mogadishu somalia. >> rose: '96. >>> i'm sorry n 2006. essentially a failed state in somalia and islamic course union came to govern. and then this is a more radical wing. the more militant armed wing. when the al shabaab started there was also east africa al qaeda cell which was hiding, the ones who were responsible for the '98 bombings of our embassies in nairobi and tanzania. they were basically undercover hiding in somalia. and they lifted their head i would say essentially hijacked the al shabaab movement. so the islamic course union always had moderate elements civil society element, and more radical and extreme elements and these became the militant military wing of it. >> rose: what would you add to that eli? >> well, i would say that at this point what we know is that al shabaab has followed the pattern of a loll of al qaeda related groups. which is that they have proven gruesome in the ability to cause these mass casualty attacks. we saw similar kind of thing from al shabaab in uganda

over the last decade, the fbi estimates 20 people left minnesota for mogadishu. >> that's the tip of the iceberg. >> reporter: you think there's far more? >> far more. >> reporter: a local somali leader says the number is more like 60. what is the appeal? >> it's not about heaven, it's not about ideology. it's about engaging a young man who is lost. they take him to the mosque. they raise him. they induct him. they blame everything he's complaining about, they blame it on the infidels. they give him a target. >> reporter: he also said that al shabaab doesn't tell the young recruits that their ticket to somalia is only one way and those who return could face execution. and yet the young men continue to head overseas. the last one left two weeks ago. dean reynolds, cbs news, minneapolis. >>> a former fbi agent said he'll plead guilty to leaking classified information to an associated press reporter. he said he provided details to an undercover operation in yemen back in 2012. the investigation into the leak involved the seizure of the associated press phone records. he became a suspect

a life-shaking experience that inspired him to return to mogadishu. and matthew dowd is back with struecker's story. >> reporter: he was 24-year-old army ranger sergeant, task with leading men through hostile streets of mogadishu. somalia has descended into chaos. on this day, the routine mission went horribly wrong. black hawk helicopter was downed by war lord. assault mission turned quickly to rescue mission. >> the most intense gun fight that i have ever been in in my life. there was nothing that i could do about it. >> reporter: you're told, you'll have to go back out because there's another rescue that has to be done. do you think you were going out on a death mission? >> all of us were thinking this is a suicide mission. if we went back through, all of us are going to die. >> listening over the radio, people's voices were getting more and more terrified. i started thinking about my family and i started praying. >> reporter: a moment so intense so powerful, it changed everything. >> it was a life-transforming event for me. firefights and previous

out of mogadishu by african union peacekeeping forces there. but they have not gone away. can you talk more about their capabilities still? it's not just this attack which is ongoing they have launched attacks inside somalia. >> reporter: when we were there it was during the famine and al shabaab was refusing to allow aide into the areas in their control. it was after that we saw the kenyans go in. they were pushed out of the capital and out of the urban centers. back in may when i was there, it really felt like we were in an amazing period of renewal and somalia might be coming to some sort of stability in the recent days and weeks they are receiving new injections of finance. you are getting a sense of the global terror networks. this is what we're hearing from the kenyan foreign minister. this is part of al qaeda and a broader global terror networks. they realize what they lost when they lost that territorial footprint in somalia. and this is part of their fight back. they are trying to show not only that al shabaab is still in the game that

breads hra*ets go to weather who is in mogadishu. he sent us this report on al-shabab victims there. >> reporter: hassan understands the pain of the al-shabab attack. in one bombing earlier this year, he lost his restaurant, two staff and, his nephew. his daughter died in another. the blast that took his business was aimed at a passing government official. a suicide bomb had detonated the pollutioexplosions in the car oe the restaurants. he has heard the explanations for al show bac al-shabab's att. >> what did we do to deserve being punished? >> reporter: mogadishu's mayor had had plenty of experience with al-shabab. he showed me the concrete barriers around their office that they hope will fend off would-been assassins, their toughest job is learning how to fight the right war. >> it's a wil [inaudible] war. >> reporter: it's not a government war. >> we need qualified well trained intelligence. we don't have that. we don't have 245679 sympathy for the wick vic times of the west gate attack runs deep here. don't have to go far. take

it estimates 20 people left from minnesota for mogadishu. >> that's the tip of the iceberg. >> reporter: you think there's more far. >> far more. >> reporter: a local somali leader says the number is more like 60. what is the appeal about heaven, about ideology, it's about engaging a young man who is lost. they take him to the mosque. they raise him. they induct him. they blame everything he's complaining about, they blame it on the infidels. they give him a target. >> reporter: he also says that al shabaab doesn't tell the young recruits that their ticket to somalia is only one way and those who return could face execution. and yet the young men continue to head overseas. the last one left two weeks ago. dean reynolds, cbs news, minneapolis. >>> a former fbi agent said he'll plead guilty to lacking classified information to an associated press reporter. he said he provided details to an undercover operation in yemen in 2012. the investigation into the leak involved the seizure of the associated press phone records. he became a suspect when the phone recorded were admitted. he'll get 11

. >> you and i were together in mogadishu, i think it was right after al-shabaab had been kicked out of there by peace-keeping forces there. but they have not gone away. can you talk about their capabilities, because i understand they have also launched some attacks inside somalia. >> reporter: well, when we were there, anderson, it was during the famine, and al-shabaab was denying any western aid. and that was really the timing of the support they were getting with the local community. and after that, we saw the kenyans go in, they were pushed out of the capital, they were consistently pushed out of the urban census. back when we were there, we felt we were in the middle of an amazing period that somalia may come into a more stable area. but days later, we learned that al-shabaab is moving in another direction, and getting more global finance. and this is something we heard from the kenyan foreign minister, that they believe this is not just al-shabaab, but also al-qaeda. the global world realized what they lost when they lost that territorial fingerprint in somalia. and this is par

they carry out the suicide attacks in mogadishu. they rarely kill a non-muslim. i'm not sure that in the mind of most some articlies that this will track well. they know good and well that other fellow somali muslims die at the hands of al-shabab. not non-muslims. it's a strange development. it is a worrisome trend that you see in other parts of the world. >> thank you ambassador, david shipp and richard miniter. thank you for your time. >> up next - the time to influence young invincibles to buy health injure. what do you think. our associate producer is filtering your questions. please bring them to us on both twitter and facebook. we'll be right back. ç] >> one group of americans will play a big part in whether obamacare succeeds - the millions of young healthy americans. they are vital participants in the health care plan for it to offset the costs of covering older, sicker americans. some call them young invincibles, and there is an organization by that name to get young people to sign up for the plan. >> obama administration officials said they need to enr

. >> you and i worked together in mogadishu. they have not gone away. it is not just this attack which is ongoing. i am told they are launched some attacks inside somalia. >> reporter: when we were there was during the famine. that was a turning time within the support they were getting within the local communities. it was after that, we saw the kenyans go in and they issue pushed out of the capital and urban centers. back in may when i was there, we were in this amazing period of renewal. that somalia might be coming into some sort of stability. in more recent days and weeks, a sense that al shabaab has been regrouping and they are receiving new injections of finance. you get a sense that the global terror networks and something we have been hearing from the kenyan foreign minster and they believe the attack is not just al shabaab. this is part of al qaeda and a broader terror network. the they realized what they lost when they lost that. extraordinary territorial -- when they lost that territorial footprint in somalia and this is part of their fight b

a life-changing experience that inspired him to return to mogadishu. and matthew dowd is back with struecker's story. >> reporter: in 1993, he was a 24-year-old army ranger sergeant, tasked with leading men through hostile streets of mogadishu. somalia had descended into chaos. u.s. sent an elite team to help restore order. on this day, the routine mission went horribly wrong. a black hawk helicopter was downed by warlord. an assault mission turned quickly to rescue mission. >> i went through still to this day, the most intense gun fight. that i have ever been in in my life. there was nothing that i could do about it. >> reporter: then you're told, you'll have to go back out because there's another rescue that has to be done. do you think you were going out on a death mission? >> all of us were thinking this is a suicide mission. if we go back through, what we just drove through, all of us are going to die. >> listening over the radio, people's voices were getting more and more terrified. i started thinking about my family and i started praying. >> rep

a life-changing experience that inspired him to return to mogadishu. and matthew dowd is back with struecker's story. >> reporter: in 1993, he was a 24-year-old army ranger sergeant, tasked with leading men through hostile streets of mogadishu. somalia had descended into chaos. u.s. sent an elite team to help restore order. on this day, the routine mission went horribly wrong. a black hawk helicopter was downed by warlord. an assault mission turned quickly to rescue mission. >> i went through still to this day, the most intense gun fight. that i have ever been in in my life. there was nothing that i could do about it. >> reporter: then you're told, you'll have to go back out because there's another rescue that has to be done. do you think you were going out on a death mission? >> all of us were thinking this is a suide mission. if we go back through, what we just drove through, all of us are going to die. >> listening over the radio, people's voices were getting more and more terrified. i started thinking about my family and i started praying. >> repor

there's no letup in the stream of hungry people walking to mogadis mogadishu. she is one of the new arrivals. she fled from a town 700 ki kilometers southwest of mogadishu. >> translator: i came here in search of food. we have no livestock or energy to grow food. like many of our neighbors we were forced to flee. >> reporter: most areas are controlled by fighters where they have little or no access. they are joining camps already overflowing with those displaced by the 2011 famine. according to u.n. figures, there are at least 500 examples for displaced people in and around the capital. they say they're not receiving help. >> translator: we have not seen any agency coming to assist us here, be it local or international, and when we go to the u.n. offices they say they're leaving the territory and fear coming to the camp. >> reporter: somalia has been a failed state for 22 years and the scene of one of the world's humanitarian crisis and efforts to get help to those who need it most remain hafrp mpered by the violence. they told al jazeera that the support follo

thousand five hundred troops occupying somalia actually propping up the somali federal government in mogadishu but there's still a lot of instability inside somalia particularly in the south and al-shabaab is still a formidable military threat as far as the. somalia federal government is concerned i believe that this incident will cause the existing government in kenya as well as the legislature there. perhaps have a more rigorous discussion around what it actually means to have two thousand five hundred troops in neighboring somalia. so other world news in brief for you now in tunisia even misled government has agreed to resign or in pressure from the secular opposition the decision follows political deadlock a nationwide protest triggered by the july killing of an opposition leader by suspected muslim militants from a country that was the birthplace of the arab spring will now be led by a provisional government it's a new elections can be held. in italy five ministers from silvio berlusconi's center right party have resigned from a shaky coalition government a step follows weeks of worsening

whereabouts a year ago we were having a front in mogadishu where there was fighting. i don't think that is bad. >> for the first time in more than 20 years people are confident enough to come out and innocently themselves on the pure white sands of the beach. this is the city's most popular stretch of the indian ocean. the stream of returnees, investors and aid workers is endless, it has not been replicated elsewhere in the country. power beyond mogadishu is a reminder to the huge challenges of lasting peace in some articlia. the government has little influence outside the capital. much of the government controlled in regions controlled by clans. how to bring the country together is a big priority of the government. >> the challenge of the government is to build partnerships with the de facto authorities and forces across the country, to unify them within or beneath a single government or framework. >> the somali president says it will take time. >> we have a history of prolonged conflict and statelessness, affecting the fabric of our society. bringing them back toget

documented this when i travel to mogadishu. here is change and the president obama. a close to see a black sites in poland and thailand and then start using the gulag in somalia where we are interrogating prisoners, interrogating prisoners, some of whom have been snatched off the streets of third countries. snatched out of this hell, taken to wilson airport, shackled and headed and then flown to somalia where he was put in this bed bug infested underground prison with no access to light, the access to the outside world it could not tons february had been taken. that happened in the president obama to read what i call for comment, they said, yeah, that sounds right. why would we do that? it's natural that we would want to cooperate. the three-year executive orders, he was going to be dismantling it cannot agree branding it in recasting it as a more of a legitimate form of running the same program. that is a budget what has happened. renditions continue under president obama. assassination has been normalized as a central component, not as though we have not had that h

capitol of mogadishu, launched by african troops. u.s. embassy bombing which killed 200 people. president obama telephoned kenyan president, firming its relationship with kenya. young nephew and his fiancee were also killed in the attack. >> keep them always in our prayer. >> courtney keely. >> professional of international relations at george washington university. also with me from washington, richard minuter. fm kenya's, given that does this come as a surprise that they were strong enough opull off this westgate mall nightmare? >> no, actually, it does not come as a surprise. the only surprise is that it did not happen earlier. al shabaab has been threatening to pull off a major strike like this for the last two years. the last one they did was in july, 2010 in uganda, where 70-plus people were killed. this is first time they have managed to pull off such a big attack. there have been a number of smaller ones in kenya over the past two years. this is not a difficult task to do, as long as you have the organizational skills the training and the commitment to die for the cause,

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. >> it was interesting on that day there was two bombblasts in mogadishu. probably by the same group, and that received almost no media coverage because there was no media organizations based there. >> the concentration of journalists based in kenya ensured the story went global, and that we have a range of views. in the scramble for coverage lots of competing media outlets are going in different ways to get unique or exclusive coverage of the events. >> secondly, it's been long-drawn. the international media generally cover an event and move on. if they've been here on the news item for around three days, which is relatively long, partly because the terrorists themselves wanted it to last long to attract as much attention as possible. >> typically a terrorist act is quick. it's a bomb going off somewhere and the media gets it, the aftermath. as the attacks in mumbai showed, you can create an event where you storm a high-profile venue and lay siege to it for several hours or days, during which time you are guaranteed ongoing role in coverage. >> the fact th

. >> reporter: let's go to mogadishu, if they are shocked by the attack at westgate mall has al shabaab do you think miscalculated the level of its support? >> well, that's perhaps not it, they will be looking at the history of international involvement here and perhaps hoping to provoke greater and heavy handed response by the kenya because in the 90s when the americans were involved and again in 2006 when the ethopians invaded and al shabaab was the focus of a lot of national list who saw them as an opportunity to push back against foreign involvement and having said that there is a deep-seeded sense of frustration here and anger and disappointment at the westgate attacks and let's look at what we found in the streets of mogadishu yesterday. he understands the attack and in one bombs this year he lost his restaurant, two staff and his nephew. his daughter died in another. the blast that took his business was aimed at a passing government official, the suicide bomb detonated the explosions in a car outside the restaurant. he has heard al shabaab's justification for the westgate attack