president obama is president. what else is there to say than that? we're nitpicking over words here. >> you were playing a game, once again, of trying to somehow make him not quite the president. he got into the office, you're admitting that. but he doesn't it legitimatelyh did he? just say he did. >> he's president. he's president. >> what more is there to say? >> can you repeat after me. he was edlegitimately elected president. >> president obama was elected president. >> the people elected him. >> he's a natural born citizen. >> i didn't make that judgment when he was brought in. >> everybody watching knows what you're doing. you're dodge balling. let me ask you about the united states government. what's your view about the continued resolution, funding the government beyond october 1st. do you want that to happen or not? >> absolutely. we voted to fund everything but obama care. of course we want to keep funding the government. >> the law of the land. >> and we're -- congress, gets who gets to change the law o

. >> obama care has been the law for four years. why don't they just talk about something else? >> yesterday, the republican controlled house voted to fund the government if democrats agreed to delay the health care law another year, as well as instituting other provisions republicans have not been able to pass, allowing employers to deny contraception coverage to employees. it goes against their beliefs, for example. the democrat controlled senate says no way, no how. they passed a clean government funding bill and say that's it. >> harry reid has conceded on nothing. he has said he refuses even to talk, he refuses to compromise, he refuses to budge. >> now the government lies in wait for the potential impact of this impasse, also known as a partial government shutdown. >> how dare you? how dare you? how dare you presume a failure? the fact is, the fact is this country is based on people saying they won't do things, and at the end of the day, coming together for compromise. >> of course it is, congressman issa, but to be fair, this

>> replace obama care! >> get rid of obama care! repeal obama care! get rid of obama care. obama care! >> day one, president romney moves to repeal obama care. >> obama care! obama care! >> obama care! >> all all of obama care. >> i'm the one that's going to get rid of obama care. we're going to stop it on day one! >> remember 2012, the presidential election, about how obama care just never came up? it's like it wasn't even an issue in the campaign. so nobody ever expected that that election would have settled anything about obama care. >> you had said, next year, that you would repeal the health care vote. that still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> well, now the latest republican argument for shutting down the government in order to stop obama care is that it was never addressed as an issue in the presidential campaign. this is the point where the way your friend told you that you should calm down, use deep breaths, this is the time for deep breaths. preside

and we have these challenges of obama care. we need to make major progress on all three. >> it's not a take it or leave it from your end about killing obama care? >> listen, i believe it's the right policy. we have two opportunities there to do it. and i think frankly that the president when the american people make it clear in the next several weeks, he will step forward and at least delay this law. listen, this president's known for drawing lines he doesn't keep. i think there's a potentially -- >> do you ever gamble, sir? privately? >> i really don't -- no, i really don't like gambling. >> go to the track or anything? because i'm available if you want to call me afterwards. i'm ready. the president's not going to give up on obama care. congressman fattah, if you want give bookie advice here. what do you think the odds are the president of the united states will give up on the one sure thing that will get him in the history books, obama care, 40,000-some people waiting in the emergency room right now, your thoughts? >> there'

obama care is dead, dead. pass a clean bill to fund the government or shut it down. >> reporter: kind of a preview of the fight to come over the biggest of issues came a vote in the house today to cut the spending on the food stamp program spending that's risen drastically since the start of the recession to cut you want 5%, $40 billion often years and it was a strict party line vote. not a single democrat, larry, voted for that and harry reid says it will die in the senate anyway. back to you. >> lots of acrimony. now let's get right to our special guest tonight, tea party congressman tim huelskamp. you moved the leadership in your direction on the defunding of obama care. okay. question is, what did you really win? in other words, you know the bill is dead in the water in the senate. and as president obama said once again today if it ever got through he will veto it. in other words, why do it if you know it's not going to ever pass anything? >> well, larry, the senate hasn't produced anything to keep the gov

they are saying all of obama big government programs except for obama care. you have the scale here. obama care here all of the other stuff that he wants here. why is it that when it comes to compromise only republicans give. >> hang on. let me go to sasha. >> i have a question for you. republicans pass a continuing resolution that funds or debt, our obligations o-funds military ocean security, medicare runs the whole government except for obama care. how do you explain the accusation republicans are shutting down the government? >> obama care is the law of the land. that is the reality. >> that is -- it is the law of the land. it was passed by sue houses it was upheld by the supreme court. there was an election that withheld in which the republicans couldn't repeal if the americans turned that down. >> congress has a duty to thwart the president's health reform. it is not what the congress passed in 2010. >> explain. let her explain. >> this is obama care now. gone is em employer mandates. gone is the cap on out of pocket expenses. gone are over half of the

the american people don't want the government shut down and they don't want obama care. >> obama care is dead. >> right a the the center of the debate is republican senator ted cruz who is threatening a filibuster. >> i will do anything else and possible to defeat obama care. >> he joins us live. >>> secretary of state calls on the u.s. to act. >> this fight about syria's chemical weapons is not a game. it's real, it's important. >> we'll discuss what happens next with charles. we'll talk with claire mccaskill who is leading the charge, and our power player of the week, ivanka trump. >> i represent the feminine voice of a masculine brand. >> all right now on fox news sunday. >> hello, again. the clock is ticking. the government shuts down in just eight days unless congress agrees on a bill to fund federal agencies. on friday the house passed a bill to keep the government going until mid december but they also cut off funding for obama care, and harry reid said that is dead in the senate. ted cruz is leading the drive, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you, chris, good to be

brianna, you want an interview with president obama. i want an interview with president obama. he's giving one to president bill clinton to discuss obama care. why? >> reporter: because he needs some help, certainly, and because americans like bill clinton quite a bit. he has high approval ratings, he's an effective messenger. he connects, and president obama really needs help explaining this program, still unpopular. you look at a recent poll, an nbc news/"wall street journal" poll from earlier this month and it asked how well do you understand the new health care law. by a ratio of more than two to one, americans who were surveyed said that basically they didn't understand it very well. so we saw clinton being the key surrogate for president obama during the election, trying to bolster his economic policies, and now you see president obama doing the same thing, looking to clinton for that, only this time on this still unpopular health care reform law that i'm sure clinton may remind people he wishes he had been able to have during his presidency. >> i believe actually it was

in obama care. people are simply reading the bill now. the more they find out about it, theypeople, individuals, moms, dads, teenagers, children, seeing the effects in their hope budget and in their health care when it companies y comes to ob care. they're feeling it every day in their lives at home. it's not about someone spending money and giving it to them and telling them it's bad. >> protesting and understanding it. maybe like nancy pelosi. have to read it to find out exactly what's in it. >> everybody's playing catch-up. which illustrates the scary nature of this debate. we listened to the media for years about this bill and how great it was. now you listen to the people that are dealing with it, which are the real doctors, who are exasperated. to they, obama care is a fatal disease. it's like smoking. it saves money by cutting a decade off your life. nobody in the medical industry, like, sees this as a good thing. you can look at the numbers of doctors leaving now because they can't see thems

harry reid said to president obama, we don't want the obama care. i had an exchange with dick durbin, who argued we should stick the american people in coach. i think his own analogy shows what is wrong with this system, at a minimum, members of congress shouldn't be treated better than the american people, and should he be willing to compromise he would agree what the house has done to delay all of this saying it is not ready for prime time. it is not working, and we'll treat the american people at least as well as the others. >> you are talking about democrats, it is hard for them to get a word in edge wise, because there are members of your party who are so critical of what you have done and how you have done it. you have colleagues who accused you of putting on a show. congressman peter king said you're a fraud, lying to the base. george will, who has been a conservative columnist for "the washington post," who has been great, supportive of you in the past. but he wrote this past week, and i want you to respond. those people who deceive others f

obama care online. signup starts tuesday. a conversation with two doctors who know a thing or two about politics. senator john verasso and howard dean. and -- >> just now i spoke on the phone with the president of iran. >> it's been more than 30 years between calls. our power house political panel weighs in on whether a short chat between the u.s. and iran can lead to a new dynamic in the middle east. this is "state of the union." unless a deal is reached by tomorrow night, the government will shut down. early this morning the house passed legislation that would delay obama care for a year and repeal the medical device tax. they will reject the bill and to undercore the resistance, the white house issued a veto threat. dana bash is with us now. dana? where does this leave us? >> it leaves us at absolute genuine stalemate. there are no negotiations, no bipartisan discussions going on of any kind or even plan to try to get them back from the brink. now senate democrats are so determined to make their point that they believe hou

he outsourced obama care. he had nothing to do with it. >> the only time president barack obama compromises is when he waves you through. he never compromises ever. while you're talking and talking, i have stuff to say. i zone out. >> i'm keeping a second count on everybody talking to see who talks the most on the show. >> you know what you're going to find out? >> i'm going to show it to you. >> which week are you doing? >> starting next monday. >> you can't tell people beforehand. >> i'll wait and see. >> we've got to go. i think republicans should push to delay this all together instead of defunding it. when the house -- get more seats in the houlse and senate and wi the white house back. you've got to win elections to defeat obama care. >> the government collected more in tax than the history of the government. it's like a fat buy buying larger clothes and saying i've lost weight. it's never going to change. >> true. >> leaders of syria and iran are making a pr push by doing interviews with american journa

it also defunds obama care. that means it's a bill to shut down the federal government. >> and so, our message to the united states senate is real simple. the american people don't want the government shutdown and they don't want obama care. the house has listened to the american people. now, it's time for the senate to listen as well. >> senate democrats to do the same thing. and i want to know where senator prior stands on protecting the middle class. the consequences of this horrific bill. how about kay hagen in north carolina? does she understand the consequences that obama care is having in her state? what about mary lan dree of louisiana? >> republican congress want to stop the country to deny the people the chance to see a doctor. how many times are we going to do this? >> it is a wolf in wolf's clothing. the underlying bill to shut down government is reason enough to object to it. and you know what that's about? that's simply about putting their friends, the insurance companies, back in charge of medical

most of obama care, 80% of obama care is an entitlement. and entitlements are not affected by the continuing resolution. so you're throwing yourself into the lion's den and the potential yield or rewards you're going to get is tiny. >> i disagree. they're not tiny. i think the fact that the affordable care act is one of the biggest mistakes this country's made legislatively in decades. you're already seeing the effects of it and it's time that we went to the mat on this. by the way, we did vote in the house to delay the individual mandate. it went nowhere in the senate. so we're not getting a hearing, as dr. winstrop said, in the senate. quite frankly, i think this is the strategy to take. we'll see what the senate brings back and we're going to be in town next week to continue this negotiation and not shut the government down. we've both been soldiers in the field. we want to pay our people out there. that's our intent. >> i appreciate you coming on. i'm just challenging stuff. i'm an old reagan omb guy. i may not be a political genius. bu

he's been trying to put obama in his -- as a chip that obama owes him things. and by coming out for obama care, he hopes to get an endo e endorsement from obama. >> you don't think that deal is already baked? >> no. >> really? >> i know it's not because i know the clintons think and this i got from the clinton inner circle, they think that the story that "the new york times" ran about the clinton foundation and very critical of the foundation -- >> devastating if it was anybody else. >> that it was leaked from the white house, the obama white house. >> nefarious son of a guns, huh? >> uh-huh. >> i thought they were getting along so well. the's still friction. >> there's friction and bill loves to show up obama and by selling obama care even better than obama sells it, as he did at the clinton global whatever the hell that thing is called. the clinton global initiative. >> right. >> he shows he's the professional and obama is still the amateur. is there anything obama's done in your judgment lately, foreign policy, domestic, to dispel the amateurish standing tha

obama care! >> obama care! >> all all of obama care. >> i'm the one that's going to get rid of obama care. we're going to stop it on day one! >> remember 2012, the presidential election about how obama care just never came up? it's like it wasn't even an issue in the campaign. so nobody ever expected that that election would have settled anything about obama care. >> you had said next year that you would repeal the health care vote. that still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> well, now the latest republican argument for shutting down the government in order to stop obama care is that it was never addressed as an issue in the presidential campaign. this is the point where the way your friend told you that you should calm down, use deep breaths, this is the time for deep breaths. president obama today went to maryland and gave a speech about health reform, and he has given a million speeches about h

defunds obama care is dead. dead. >> and right at the center of the debate, republican senator ted cruz who's threatening a fill buster. >> i will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund obama care. >> senator cruz joins us live. it's a fox news sunday exclusive. then, syria submits an inventory of its chemical weapons program as secretary of state kerry calls on the u.n. to act. >> this fight about chemical weapons is not a game. it's real. it's important. >> we'll discuss what happens next with former weapons inspector charles duelfer. plus, lawmakers are calling for aggressive background checks. we'll talk with claire mccaskill who is leading the charge. >>> and our power play of the week. iylana trump. all right now on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. well, the clock is ticking. the government shuts down in just eight days unless congress agrees on a bill to fund federal agencies. on friday, the house passed a measure to keep the government going until mid-december bu

♪ >>> five days before enrollment begins for obama care, president obama took a stand against republicans threatening a government shutdown. the president went to maryland and began by explaining why he won't consider defunding obama care. >> in fact, for the past few years since i signed the affordable care act, a lot of you have been enjoying new benefits you didn't have before even if you didn't know they were coming from obama care. because the affordable care act, more than 100 million americans have gotten free preventative care. because of the affordable care act, 3 million young adults under age 26 have gained coverage by staying on their parents' plan. [ applause ] because of the affordable care act, millions of seniors on medicare have saved hundreds of dollars on their prescription medicine. 8.5 million families actually got an average of $100 back from their insurance companies. insurance companies can no longer put lifetime limits on the care your family need or discriminate on pre-existing conditions. starting january 1 they won't be able to charge women more for their insur

who are you going to believe about obama care? joe rago or barack obama? because we just heard the president of the united states say this will provide high quality health care for less than the cost of your cell phone bill, okay. and now the question is, is that going to happen? i think the consensus is, it's going to be complexion, it is going to falter, it's going to be a mess. i don't think this entitlement is going to become as entrenched as social security did. >> you wrote this week in a piece, let obama care fail. this thing is going to fail of its own accord in essence. it's just too big and too complicated. explain your argument. >> well, i said let it collapse. now, it may not literally collapse. it may not literally fail. but i think it's going to be a very poor federal program. poor health care program. there's going to be enormous problems such as people discovering they only have a limited number of doctors to choose from or getting their bills paid is going to be complicated. when that starts happening, people are going to start looking for

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of obama care. it is very important. the american people want that. we saw the polling just today that 57% of the american people would like to see this law either repealed or delayed. they see that it's having a negative impact on their lives. so we're going to continue to push the senate to have this debate because premiums, i just heard dan say that premiums were coming down. the president promised that premiums were going to come down $2500. they're going up $7500. and people, we're told if you had a health insurance plan that you liked or doctor that you liked, you would be able to keep it. it's not true. i was home earlier this week. people are panicked as they see how this law is being implemented. so we are going to continue to push the senate to have this debate. >> one last thing, congresswoman. here's senator john mccain, here's what he said about tying obama care funding to the budget. >> i campaigned all over america for two months everywhere i could, and in every single campaign rally,

and delay obama care for a year. and i think if the truth is told there's a lot of democrats out there who hope that we succeed because it's not ready for prime time, this bill. a lot of people are going to suffer economic misery. we have heard about that. all we want to do is delay this and defund it for a year. we want to get this right. it's not right now and it only seems to make some common sense to do this. >> suppose you do that. you defund it for a year. delay it for a year and ship it back to the senate. and it's going to land there like it goes over like a lead balloon over there and the president said that he's not going -- he's not going to bargain over defunding obama care. what happens when it's back to the senate if that's what happens in the house? >> that's the position. they have to do something with it because at a certain point we have to make a decision. and 17 times since the 1970s the government has gone through this. it's called brinksmanship in negotiation and then make a decision. sometimes

and president obama says thank you, khodahafez. explain to our viewers what that means. >> it's actually pronounced khodahafez. >> you're wrong, too, jim. >> means god be with you. in fact, it's a point of contention in the islamic world. lots of people use the standard slang but the hard liners now say [ inaudible ] but that's inside baseball. >> thank you, fareed. i want to go to the white house and brianna keilar, our white house correspondent. brianna, one of the criticisms we have heard from republicans about president obama's posture when it comes to negotiating with john boehner is he'll negotiate with president rouhani but he won't negotiate with house speaker john boehner. i don't know that that's necessarily a fair criticism but he certainly gave them more ammunition with this announcement. >> reporter: certainly, and i think it's probably fair to say obviously clearly today, president obama has been on the phone more with the leader of iran than he has with the speaker of the house, as far as we know. i think here at the

unpress deputied assault on obama care. have you never seen it being used to extort the president or a governing party and trying to force issues that hav nothing to do with the budget or the debt. >> as the battle over the budget and obama care begin, another scandal that dogs the obama administration re-emerged on capitol hill today. the house foreign affairs committee holding a hearing on the deadly attacks in ben ghazi that killed four americans more than a year ago, including the ambassador to libya. more than a year after that scandal undersretary patrick nnedy faced tough questions today about why the consulate wasn't secured, why no oneas punished for failg to secure it. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catheri harrage with our report. >> the congressional hearing underscored the disconnec betweenost americans' definition of accountability. >> in the real world this would neve happen. this would never ever happen. they would be fired. they would be terminated because they failed. >> the star witness patrick

don't renew obama care. i argue what they ought to do in the house is pass bill by bill, pentagon state continuing resolutions for each department. >> and they're not going to listen to you anymore than listening to their own leaders of the house. i'm grateful for that. >> is that buchanan? >> i think it is that way. >> they are just suggesting the idea tha is really far off on the fringe, even fringier than what ted cruz is doing. i mean ted cruz, he called it a filibuster, it really wasn't. it was against the bill that he eventually voted for after taunting the house into passing this bill that would defund obama care and then announced it was going nowhere in the senate, which is true. and then they got mad at him and then he decided he would have to stand on the senate floor and prove his manhood or whatever it was. >> okay. now, more cruz on obama care. >> when you have a law, and it is killing jobs. when you have a law that is hammering small businesses. when you have a law that is forcing people into

what does it say about obama care? it's like the only people who support it are the people who don't have to endure it while the rest of us go through hell with it. it's just unfair. dana. unfair. >> one of the things -- >> it's unfair. >> it's unfair. turnabout is fair play. juan, one of the things that the unions basically said they want to do is they want to double dip. they want the employer contribution and they want to get the subsidies and looks like the white house, i think, they are going to be hard-pressed to try to carve out unions from this. but what do you think? >> i agree with you. >> you really think that they're not going to? >> i don't think they can do it. i think it's too big a carve out and i think it feeds in to the kind of opposition to obama care that is so rampant on the right. >> and on the rise. >> what the -- >> by the way. >> what the unions have said is they're not interested in the right wing agenda, which is repeal obama care. they just want to fix this so that they get benefits. because

under obama care, a similar plan is 195 bucks a month. we are paying more so other people can get health care and never going to get benefits. >> you have to talk $75 to $195, when you make it real, i think they'll respond. talk about the coolness factor, you talk about younger voters, they think obama is cool, leftism is cool. obama and mom jones, not cool, leftism, not cool. nanny state is not cool. i think there are a lot of kids if they thought about it are natural libertarians. they hate the fact the nsa is spying on texts, calls, internet usage. that's a real opening for us. how do we craft that message that freedom is cool. >> i think anti-establishmentism is cool among young people. don't want to be part of the status quo. it is providing a lot of young people their hook into libertarianism or conservative principles. a lot of young people are starting to hear the message and like it, they don't think it is cool moving into their parents' basement, went to college, try to make it on their own, and a third of people are moving back

it's just killing obama care. that's the negotiation that republicans will kill the president's signature. if he doesn't go along with that, the government will shut down. we seem to be on track for that. i don't see how this can be reconciled. >> charles, there was word that house speaker boehner wanted to shift this fight to the debt ceiling fight. pass this clean continuing resolution and then put on a bunch of stipulations on the debt ceili delaying obama care by one year, simpler, fairer, flatter tax code. keystone xl pipeline construction. the list was very long and growing. >> it's a two-time republican agenda to be enacted in two weeks. it obviously has everything the republicans want. the essence of a negotiation is you walk out with two of these perhaps and that would be a triumph. you did the keystone and the one-year delay. you drop the others and you look statesman like. which is going to be the fight you choose? the shutdown of the government or the debt ceiling? and what are you going to demand in t

he's been trying to put obama in his -- as a chip that obama owes him things. and by coming out for obama care, he hopes to get an endo e endorsement from obama. >> you don't think that deal is already baked? >> no. >> really? >> i know it's not because i know the clintons think and this i got from the clinton inner circle, they think that the story that "the new york times" ran about the clinton foundation and very critical of the foundation -- >> devastating if it was anybody else. >> that it was leaked from the white house, the obama white house. >> nefarious son of a guns, huh? >> uh-huh. >> i thought they were getting along so well. the's still friction. >> there's friction and bill loves to show up obama and by selling obama care even beer than obama sells it, as he did at the clinton global whatever the hell that thing is called. the clinton global initiative. >> right. >> he shows he's the professional and obama is still the amateur. is there anything obama's done in your judgment lately, foreign policy, domestic, to dispel the amateurish standing that

a fight over obama care that could shut down the government, but it won't stop obama care. fareed zakaria is the host of cnn's "fareed zakaria gps." fareed, thanks for being here. the president's former defense secretary, leon panetta wrote recently in an op-ed, "u.s. citizens will lose trust in our system of governing and the world will view the united states as less able to back its word with power." how much does this internal -- eternal/internal struggle in washington damage us in the eyes of the world? >> i think it does. right now, we don't have a competitor, and so it seems as though we can careen from crisis from crisis, and there doesn't seem to be much of a price to pay. the american economy, the recovery is continuing. but there are two areas. first is the credibility of american government. we benefit enormously from the fact that the dollar is the reserve currency of the world and our treasury bills are the reserve investments of the world. if that changes, if people start worrying about getting repaid, as they shouldn't, frankly, worry, given what we're doing,

obama care. even if it means shutting the government down in seven days. for over three hours, he's been rambling on about his hatred for obama care. here's how it started. >> i intend to speak in opposition to obama care. i intend to speak in support of defunding obama care until i am no longer able to stand. >> he's telling americans the president and even leading republicans, i don't care what you think. in his desperate crusade. he's sounding like a guy losing control. he actually compared the effort to defund obama care to this. >> to the civil war. time of enormous pain, anguish, blood shed in the united states. there were a lot of voices then who said the union cannot be saved. can't be done. accept defeat. >> what? did he just compare his political hostage taking to fighting slavery in america? senator, it's been a rough couple of weeks, but wow. and the bizarre comparisons continued. >> you know, with john f. kennedy told this country we're going to send a man to the moon. a lot of peopl

♪ >>> five days before enrollment begins for obama care, president obama took a stand against republicans threatening a government shutdown. the president went to maryland and began by explaining why he won't consider defunding obama care. >> in fact, for the past few years since i signed the affordable care act, a lot of you have been enjuventoying new benefits you didn't have before even if you didn't know they were coming from obama care. because the affordable care act, more than 100 million americans have gotten free preventative care. because of the affordable care act, 3 million young adults under age 26 have gained coverage by staying on their parents' plan. [ applause ] because of the affordable care act, millions of seniors on medicare have saved hundreds of dollars on their prescription medicine. 8.5 million families actually got an average of $100 back from their insurance companies. insurance scum pacompanies can longer put lifetime limits on the care your family need or discriminate on pre-existing conditions. starting january 1 they won't be able to charge women more for th

. >> obama. yes, and i think also he -- he wants to -- he did everything in his power to try to demonstrate that this is a new era as far as the iranians are concerned, and i think that that's the message that we should take away from this whole experience. granted there probably will be no meeting between the two presidents, between president obama and president rouhani for what the iranians said are complications, meaning they don't have the political buy in back in theron and would suffer politically if such a meeting were to occur, but he certainly is a powerful president. so i think that even though there probably is not going to be a huge symbolic gesture to come out of this un meeting, that things -- we're in a completely different place than we were may -- say in may of this year. >> maybe we won't get the photo ophandshake, but do you expect anything to come out of the meeting on thursday as discussions begin anew on iran's nuclear program? that would be even more significant. >> absolut

, that is the defunding of obama care. and that sets up another fight in the house of representatives. not this weekend, but the following weekend, as boehner himself said. all of this has to play out within the next 11 days before the government shuts down. no more money for most of the federal government by october 1st. the start of the new fiscal year. that's where we stand in the legislation. but things are very complicated by the infighting now within the republican party. let's bring in our chief legal analyst, gloria borger. more from the house speaker john boehner throwing down the gauntlet to his senate counterparts. listen to this. >> guess what? we're having a fight here. we're going to win the fight here. it's time for them to pick up the mantel and get the job done. >> listen to this, from a few of the top democrats reacting to the republican back and forth. >> they're being guided by a few members over there who are of a certain political faith that i can't even describe who believe that chaos is the best thi

. >> all because obama care is about to become -- >> we're not going to put up with funding obama care. >> fully implemented. >> the new revolution in america is about brains and balance and we the people got the brains. >> aww shucky ducky. >> if your kids haven't figured out what a lie is yet, you ought to tell them. >> obama care is a disaster. >> time for you to tell them. >> this atrocity of a law. >> atrocity of obama care. >> we cannot take our eyes off what it will mean to the devastation of health care in america. >> do you want to just half of obama care? do you want half of it? >> no. >> how about a fourth of it? >> no. >> how about we defund the whole damn thing? ♪ living in america >>. ♪ living in america >> you know, the house of representatives is supposed to be the people's house. the people's house has turned into a waste land because nothing gets done, nothing gets done, and it is all because of republican leadership. i made the case on the program last night. that there are votes after votes after votes that get voted down, issue that is get voted down because th

"your money" starts right now. >>> obama care. it is the biggest change to your relationship with the government in your lifetime. guess what? that government could be shutdown say midnight monday. i'm christine romans. this is "your money." there is confusion with the law, but congress is adding to it. fact, a government shutdown will not stop obama care. it is funded through taxes and fees and mandatory spending. fact, the pseudo filibuster by ted cruz, was never going to stop obama care. fact, obama care doesn't start on october 1st. this law has been on the books for more than three years. if you had a mammogram that did not cost you a dime out of pocket, that is obama care. if you have a kid on your insurance and graduated college, that is obama care. fact. with an undertaking this large, there will be surprises both positive and negative. we don't know if the affordable care act will destroy jobs or create them. we don't know if it will cost you more or less. we know the u.s. government will shutdown on monday if into deal i

it is president obama's fault. president obama has refused to negotiate on the debt ceiling, and you're absolutely right, larry. we heard today from secretary jacob lew that there's less cash on hand that they saw. the debt ceiling thing is going to hit before we think. we could have a perfect storm. we could have the government shutdown at the same time that we are facing a complete exhaustion and default and bank credit suisse said they were looking towards a market impact of the debt ceiling debacle as early as october 10th. now, we're talking about two weeks, and they are doing nothing. the president needs to take control of this, get off his high horse and stop saying no negotiate and begin negotiation so they can end the washington exemption and the keystone pipeline is another thing the president can offer that would mean a lot. >> i think it's outrageous that the president doesn't want to participate in these negotiations. you worked for bill clinton who was, you know, he would roll up his sleeves and get i

obama care? your thoughts. >> there's not a person in the country except for people who are drinking this tea party tea who believes that the president is going to walk away from obama care. it's not going to happen. 5.5 million people in my state with pre-existing conditions are going to get insurance and get it not at an increased rate come october 1. they're not going to have any lifetime limits anymore or annual limits. i mean, this is a very important program. and only thing i can say is that republicans have been on the wrong side of history. there's been team that wants more education, more health care, more jobs. and there's another team that wants to beat up on the president. we saw this with clinton. we see it with obama. anything the president's for, they're against. >> i think that's true with mr. messer. but let me ask you this. if you look back at the history and we all know the history, social security passed under roosevelt. it was opposed by the republican party. and since then t