hi is that nigel fishers office? hi there, i'm trying to get through to nigel fisher's office, there doesn't seem to be anybody answering the phone now. >> but it was proving difficult to get hold of him. >> hello, there's still no answer from nigel fisher's office. it doesn't look like it's going to happen. ok well, i guess we'll just do what we can to try and catch up with him. but just as we were about to give up... >> this is nigel fisher, this is the man we've been trying to find all afternoon. it seems he's finally turned up, so we'll see if he's actually going to answer our questions. >> you remember me? sebastian from al jazeera? >> yes, of course, you're very determined! >> nice to see you. sorry to keep, uh... >> that's alright. it's just that it's a horrible day. how long do you need? >> i mean we really needed as much time as possible but it's been kind of difficult to try to get that. can we ask you some questions now? >> sure, sure let me dump this stuff. >> the one thing we've found difficult to talk t

. >> if you would l help the fisher house. the web site is fisher house.org. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. it's sad but many in the national media continue to demean religion in this country. we will take a hard look at. that is it legal on the arrest of a florida girl who committed suicide because she was bull idea. this is a horrible story. we hope you stay tuned to those reports. >> impact segment tonight. the national media continuing to demean religion. it's been happening for years. and now nbc correspondent luke russert, son of the late tim russert is speaking out about it. >> i think the current world in which we live in, specifically with the snark ismedia, is that valued. it's very easy to come after people of faith no matter what their religion, jewish, protestant, muslim, hindu, that you are sort of tagged with this label of being puritanicle and not understanding others of a different viewpoint. i think that's kind of, it's lazy, number one, and i think it's just something that feeds the snickering masses if you will in

joining me now is the chairman and ceo of the fisher house foundation, ken fisher. mr. fisher, thank you very much. thank you for so many reasons. i was talking to one of the family members, shannon collins, last night, the mother of jeremiah collins. to the fact you have stepped up for these families, for those who don't have the resources is so extraordinary. tell me how you reacted to this and why you came forward. >> well, it was really seeing -- somebody had sent me a link to the story you did. that's what made me aware of this situation. and this was one of those decisions, andrea, that i wish i had every day, which is the no-brainer kind i had mobilized my board almost immediately, and some time shortly thereafter i received a phone call from senator mansion from west virginia asking if fisher house would step up and actually fill this gap. fisher house has always been about family, so you know, it was something that i just felt compelled to do. >> you know, chuck todd just interpreted what harry reid was saying today as the fact that this would get fixed, and no

are foundation, ken fisher. tell me how this was all worked out. did you hear from chuck hagel, his office, if you volunteered the money -- they couldn't solicit it, but if you volunteered the money it would be legally about acceptable to get this money to the families? >> yes, i've heard from secretary hagel. and other at -- other people, you know, in the government. about this. you know, it all started again with you. and you know, we were contacted again by senator manchin about whether or not we'd be willing to do this. this is such an incredible a terrible situation. that this was just, you know, as i said, this has been an easy decision for us to make. we're still working out the details, and as it stands right now, i've got six checks sitting on my desk. i'm just waiting for the addresses as to where to send them. and they will be overnighted. and these families will have these checks tomorrow. >> now, i know these checks will be for presumably the $100,000 of the death benefit. the pentagon did come up w

. >> if you would like to help the fisher house. the web site is fisher house.org. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. it's sad but many in the national media continue to demean religion in this country. we will take a hard look at. that is it legal on the arrest of a florida girl who committed suicide because she was bull idea. this is a horrible story. we hope you stay tuned to those reports. ♪ [ male announcer ] united is rolling out global, satellite-fed wi-fi to connect you even 35,000 feet over the ocean. ♪ that's...wifi friendly. ♪ [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading tools you need without any surprise fees. ♪ it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before

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fisher out. well, they did find felony amounts of marijuana in johnny fisher's car i don't think they wave the little chunks in the beard. they also questioned why the heck didn't you stop? did you not see the number of police vehicles chasing you down? >> i didn't see any of them behind me, man. >> maybe he has very bad eyesight. he didn't see the pot in his beard either. >> either way johnny fisher taken to jail. he'll be in a heap of trouble. >> the government shutdown has far reaching effects. you'll see how the government shutdown is affecting a 4-year-old and her family. this adorable 4-year-old is eliesa. her parents recently found out that she has a rare genetic disease called san felipeio syndrome. it is basically a degenerative condition. she may eventually lose her ability to heart, to heart, but there is some hope. thanks to clinical research in ohio, a treatment that was being tested on mice is curing the syndrome. >> and human clinical trials will continue on december 2014. >> the g

so fisher house will be reimbursed if any money went out. again, there's no excuse for this ever to have happened. it's a huge embarrassment to nation. also embarrassing, this exchange between white house correspondent ed henry and jay carney. >> jay, when did the president learn specifically that the military death benefits would not be paid. >> again, ed, for the third time. >> i didn't hear that question. >> it was asked. i can tell you when he did learn -- >> was that yesterday? >> ed, i don't know specifically. >> but carney certainly should know. he's stonewalling. president obama know whence he learned of it. so why doesn't jay carney? that's exactly what happened in the benghazi scandal. stonewalling. the left was outraged when richard nixon did that kind of stuff but is largely silent now. this is not a partisan analysis. stonewalling is not what our leekted officials are supposed to do. now, there is some movement in washington on the shutdown. reports say there may be a dale on short-term debt. there's no question that both partie

even if that bill comes to his table he is not going to sign it because fisher house signed him up. this is somehow the present's fault. we got here because the house republicans decided to fall on their sword and shut down the government because they didn't get their way on defunding obama care. but it shows the incredible unintended harm that can be caused when the house republicans decided to shut down the government when they didn't get their way. the same thing when they were working without pay when this is what happens when we govern by crisis and we are not responsible. >> brad what would have happened had fisher house not stepped in, what decision would the president of the united states have made in this case? >> the president would have been forced to sign or veto a bill that gives fallen warriors what they expected or deserve. >> we live in divided government you know that. do you think the president can rest on the laurels of modern leadership could shut down the entire government? is that what you are saying that the president lacks the leadership? now do you negotiate

is -- it was man well of fisher's idea. she works at the lodge. when the season starts in late june, the effects of climate change are visible here. >> years ago, there was still snow everywhere on the ground at this time. it was usually snowing when we came up here. but over the years, we have seen the snow melting away earlier. each year, there is less snow when we come up are. >> fisher wants to make the great hall visible within our project that points out climate change. filmmakers are documenting the project to show the changes in the alpine landscape. six weeks earlier, they filmed the beginning of the project. this was early july. it had snow. the lodge keeper and her friends covered 1500 square meters of snow with a special fleece. it reflects the sun, protecting the glacier below it. warmth does the rest. six weeks later, the glacier around the fleece has melted away. now the fleece covers a kind of glacier table. one geologist says the work shows that glaciers are melting too much in the summer and not growing back enough in the winter.

fisher house is one that the military tedeals with all the time. let me add one more thing. >> sure. >> what i'm also told is defense secretary chuck hagel had brought up with senior white house officials the issue of death benefits not being payable, if you will, in the view of the department once it became apparent a few weeks ago that the government shutdown was imminent. officials tell me here, they don't know when the president was made aware of all of this, but that hagel -- they insist that hagel had told the white house, you know, this is a problem. it's going to be a problem. we are now at something over 20 military families who have lost their loved ones since october 1st, and this appears to be the solution. but how extraordinary that the government is going to have to enter into a business contract to pay the families of the fallen what that final sacrifice has meant to them. >> thank goodness for the fisher house. the fisher house, helping these families and then the government paying them back once this thing hopefully gets fixed. bar

is entering an agreement with fisher house foundation. the issue has sparked outrage across the country over the last few days but the fisher house president said he is not interested in pointing any fingers. >> from our perspective, it is not about assigning blame about why this isn't getting done or who is at fault, it is all about meeting the needs of the families. >> so in short, the fisher house plans to continue the government's policy of paying $100,000 to the families of the deceased servicemen and women and according to the website, the non-profit is best known for building houses on the grounds of v.a. medical centers and so families have a place to stay when their family member is receiving treatment. >> you may have heard about some services and workers are back in business despite being part of the shutdown. >> so the big question, who decides what stays shut and what doesn't. we asked debra alfarone to find out. >> figure out the government, this can't be easy. sometimes it may seem like this is how our country makes its dec

fisher house has to pick up the tab. my point is, why do they have to reply on the public sector to take care of it? >> they shouldn't have to. it should have been clearly written. the president should have clearly caught it and defense department should have caught it. it wasn't kaulcaught. to use this thing to jump on this guy, by this punk congressman -- >> i think they used it as bait. this is why the the question obama learned about it which is an important one. that's true on benghazi, ap, all these scandals. you never know. >> you know when he knew, when he heard it on the five. >> exactly. since when did they care about badly written laws. you're saying by the way, isn't this in the dod government shutdown contingency plan? attending other services necessary to properly care for fallen and families. isn't it there? >> it has to be appropriated. that's what the house did. that's why they did the bill. >> the senate passed it. now the white house is threatening to veto it. >> he signed it. >> earlier in the day, no

ken fisher of the fisher house foundation. good fwr you, sir. thank you very much for doing what our government refused to do. today we find out you stepped in, that they are going to give you an iou. you shaved chuck hagel and helped out the families. the department of defense has the left armest budget in the government. they are still funding golf courses. they cowln't find a way to do this. your thoughts? >> this is a national disgrace. there is no other way to put it. we stepped in because these families lost a loved one. they shouldn't worry about where their next dollar is coming from. wh they raised hands and took an oath they were going to defend the nation with their lives. if they came back wounded, we as america had to make sure they were healed. whether mental or physical. if they lost their lives in doing so, it was up to us to take care of their loved one. >> that was the promise. special agent joseph peters was killed over the weekend. his wife said, my husband always said if something happened to him we would be taken care of. n

ken fisher of the fisher house foundation. good fwr you, sir. thank you very much for doing what our government refused to do. today we find out you stepped in, that they are going to give you an iou. you shaved chuck hagel and helped out the families. the department of defense has the left armest budget in the government. they are still funding golf courses. they cowln't find a way to do this. your thoughts? >> this is a national disgrace. there is no other way to put it. we stepped in because these families lost a loved one. they shouldn't worry about where their next dollar is coming from. wh they raised hands and took an oath they were going to defend the nation with their lives. if they came back wounded, we as america had to make sure they were healed. whether mental or physical. if they lost their lives in doing so, it was up to us to take care of their loved one. >> that was the promise. special agent joseph peters was killed over the weekend. his wife said, my husband always said if something happened to him we would be taken care of. n

the fisher house did the right thing. but obviously, it is hard for me. i am not a republican or democrat. i am an independent. it would have been great if obama would have been a great president and great for the world. my god, i can't believe it is not political. never blame a conspiracy for anything that can be explained by incompetence. and the suspending of the death gratuity to the bereaved families is skulldugery from the white house. >> pooert and ralph thank you. >> we'll see what happens and on a lighter note. no balls at recess and playing tag and no cart wheels and now helmets needed for soccer. are we turning our kids into risk averse or is there a valid reason for all of this? we'll have a great debate on this. [ male announcer ] this is brad. his day of coaching begins with knee pain, when... [ man ] hey, brad, want to trade the all-day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? what's the catch? there's no catch. you want me to give up my two aleve for six tylenol? no. for my knee pain, nothing beats my aleve. time it check in on grechen carlsso

joining us, ken fisher, chairman and ceo of fisher house. thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. >> elisabeth: obviously this is devastating information for americans and certainly the families of those that lost their loved ones. >> it's unconscionable. when you think about the sacrifices that have been made for this country, when those men and women raised their right hand, they take an oath. we as americans also take an oath to take care of them if they're wounded, whether it's physical or mental and to take home.f their families if they >> steve: we're taking a look at some of the -- the five who were killed, four soldiers and one marine in the last week in afghanistan. what is fisher house going to do for their families? >> we're going to bridge the gap until sanity rules in washington and the president and congress get in a room and straighten this out. fisher house will bridge the gap. >> steve: which means? >> we will offer these families the 100,000 that they should have received within the first 36 hours until the shu

a deal with the private charity fisher house foundation to pay survivor benefits. the government will reimburse when the shutdown is over, if it does end and i'll talk to a fisher house board member montel willia williams. both sides seem far apart as possible. i want to bring in two congressman, republican james lang ford, chairman of the policy committee and james heinz. gentlemen, welcome to you. let me start with you james. we have spoken a few times through this process. you two are standing next to each other, which i guess is a vaguely encouraging sign, but is there any real sign of movement here or has everything moved to, now, a debt ceiling debate which will be resolved around that deadline? >> i think it's more likely we'll have debt ceiling and cr conversation, obviously, we wish this would have been resolved a week ago and get this done or two weeks ago so we never walk into it. the closer to the debt ceiling, let's do some of this probably not long term but short term to get resolution and negotiate and get things solved long term. i would like to get

house and particularly ken fisher for stepping forward on this in order to do what the united states government on behalf of the grateful american people should be and ought to be doing. i thought senator corn anyone hit absolutely the right note. it is the moral obligation of the government to fulfill it. led by a combat veteran. an iraq and combat veteran. duncan hunter jr. thought they had solved the problem. why they didn't speak up is beyond me and i've got to tell you. their unnamed white house aides today, i hope the president is angry with them because if it is true that white house aides knew about this for several days before this told the president at some point that we still don't know what it is, those white house aides have something to account for too. their job is to serve the president and they ill-served the president. of course, the president ill-served the country. i do think, i've become convinced the administration is looking for cheesy little ways like this to make the shutdown hurt even more we saw it with the allowing of the immigration rally on the national

the government will reimburse fisher house when the shutdown ends, if it does. and as far as the end of the shutdown and a looming deadline, both sides seem as far as possible. i want to bring in two congressmen, democrat jim hines of the financial services committee. gentlemen, welcome to you. let me start with you, james langford, you two are standing next to each other, which i guess is an encouraging sign, is there any real sign of movement or has everything moved to a debt ceiling debate which will be resolved around that deadline? >> i think it is more likely we'll have debt ceiling and cr conversation. obviously, we all wish it would have been resolved weeks ago, or two weeks ago so we never actually walked into it. the closer we get to the debt ceiling, the more likely, okay, let's get some of this resolved. probably not long-term, but short-term, i would like to get america fully back to work again. >> you were with the president tonight, jim, word is leaking out. he was in a vaguely friendly term, saying look if it takes an extension of six weeks to re

i called ken fisher -- >> at fisher house? >> at fisher house, they were the catalyst that came to the table, but i want to thank ken fisher at fisher house for what they did. but to think someone would inflict this much pain. i didn't sign up for this type of duty. i didn't sign up for public service to put undue pain on people and it's hard for anybody of us to accept that. i have faith in our leadership. i believe that they will come together in a rational way and fix this problem. we have given some outlines, there's 12 of us working together. that's a pretty good core group to work out of. >> senate manchin, senator corker, thank you for coming n. >>> we at the senate now at the center of talks to end the stalemate. how do republicans feel about being left out. congressman jim jordan one of the so-called leaders of the tea party faction in the house joins us next. >>> now that the president has rejexed a house republican plan, there's a question whether the so-called tea party faction in the house will accept any deal tha

the situation is so outrageous that ken fisher who heads up the fisher house charity that helps military families says that his organization will pay the families'' expenses until the government wises up. military benefits of the families of those killed in action are about $100,000. we know of 26 service families that have so far been denied. we have the names of six military people who are being dishonored by their own government. lt. jennifer morano. sergeant patrick hawkins. sergeant joseph peters. private first class cody patterson, lance corporal jirm collins and private angel lopez. these brave americans sacrificed for this country. and they get this? they get this? the whole debacle once again points out that president obama's leadership capacity is in steep decline. we saw it in the syrian situation. we are seeing it again in the government shutdown. a new associated press poll says that the president's job approval rating has now slipped to 37% lowest point in his tenure. while the majority polled continue to blame the republicans the gap is closing. poll most liberal in the co

>> i mentioned paul fisher before. ronald reagan told fisher that the golden oldies are the ones for me. he didn't like current movies so much. sometimes he referred to ram bo once after a hostage crisis and said i have seen ram bo and now i know what to do. it was a joking thing but still a movie reference. but he liked to sit at home in the white house ress dense with nancy. they would put on their pajamas pretty early and he would read. he read policy memos and a lot of books but he liked to watch tv. he liked murder she wrote. jay leno once said that after he had to be woken up for a national security event now he can only be woken up for national emergency and murder she wrote. and he liked watching the sunday shows. meet the press, face the nation. >> how do you find this stuff? >> well, the internet is a great tool. i did a lot of searching. google. searched through indexes. i looked at a lot of the presidential archives now on line. the library of congress. i have a collection in my home of biographies of every

fisher was saying, to resolve fiscal issues to allow us to move forward. where we see the economy, it looks like it's at a good position to grow from this point, maria. >> all right. so, what would your backup plan -- i mean, how would you change something at the company in terms of your own planning, if, in fact, we do not have a deal going into october 17th, this thursday? >> i think we'll continue on the path -- we're a capital-intense business, as you know. a long-term business. we're investing record capital this year of $2.3 billion. we'll continue to invest for the future because we think there's a great opportunity for rail to participate more and more in this economy. as you saw in our third quarter results, we grew carloads 3% and revenues 4%. and that's a little bit deceptive because our coal business was actually down 7% this quarter. if we exclude that, we grew our other businesses, our intermodal, which is encouraging. >> what are you seeing from the global story? where was the growth and where are the challenges? >> well, we're seeing broad

fisher out. well, they did find felony amounts of marijuana in

fisher's car i don't think they wave the little chunks in the beard. they also questioned why the heck didn't you stop? did you not see the number of police vehicles chasing you down? >> i didn't see any of them behind me, man. >> maybe he has very bad eyesight. he didn't see the pot in his beard either. >> either way johnny fisher taken to jail. he'll be in a heap of trouble. >> the government shutdown has far reaching effects. you'll see how the government shutdown is affecting a 4-year-old and her family. this adorable 4-year-old is eliesa. her parents recently found out that she has a rare genetic disease called san felipeio syndrome. it is basically a degenerative condition. she may eventually lose her ability to heart, to heart, but there is some hope. thanks to clinical research in ohio, a treatment that was being tested on mice is curing the syndrome. >> and human clinical trials will continue on december 2014. >> the government shutdown has also shut down the research for this condition. to tell us how the shutdown has impacted eliza and her f

we're talking about the fisher house and of course wound warriors where 13 million-dollar check out to the veterans at thend. >> so far on our web site, on our facebook page, there are 12,300 likes. while you're there, like "fox & friends" as well. >> we're actually commenting. i'll comment on this, heather nauert has the news. >> great to see you. >> we like you. >> thank you. better with friends, right? >> that's right. >> geraldo likes you, too. >> thank you. we have serious news to bring you. there is breaking news that we're following out of the state of ohio this morning. a police car has collided with another car leaving six people dead. one police officer reportedly suffering minor injuries. here is what we're hearing so far, that the officer apparently had his lights and his siren on as he responded to a robbery at a mcdonald's near the state capitol in columbus. according to our local affiliate, a male driver and a female passenger -- actually five female passengers, including a toddler and a teen-ager, were killed in that crash. police believe that no one was wearing a seatb

well, god bless the fisher house charity, but it shouldn't have been necessary. if we had done our job, it wouldn't be necessary. the government would be open. this family that i love, this disabled veteran, wouldn't be worried about that next check if we simply did the responsible thing and opened the government. and then there's a second issue which, hard to believe, is even larger in scope. you see, the republicans refuse to give us a chance to extend the debt ceiling of america. what is the debt ceiling? it sounds -- in fact, this morning i listened as the minority leader said it's raising the credit card limit. no, it isn't. that's not an accurate statement. it is raising the authority of our government to borrow money to pay for what we've already spent. many of the same politicians who voted for the spending bills now don't want to pay for it. they don't want to extend this debt ceiling, the credit of the united states. that is totally irresponsible. it's ordering the biggest meal on the menu and then refusing to pay when the bill comes. that's where they

mark fisher let's start with you. you are seeing any apology that -- polling with cuccinel limi cinelli. >> there will be more attacks in the final days. but the trend has been clear throughout the fall. that cu ccinelli is in deep trouble and the government shutdown has hurt him badly. there is a tremendous well of ill will against washington. >> the possible defel default ad there is ken cuccinelli who is taking the stink himself. >> more so in virginia than other places because the closeness of washington, d.c. therthere is a tremendous awares of the shutdown by people who are not getting their paychecks and forced to sit home. ken cuccinelli has had to do this dance and saying i'm for the tea party and cutting government spending and taming the monster in washington on one hand and i'm trying to pro tent- protect the voters in this state. and terry is not mr. clean when diit comes to public per percep. >> seymouhe is more associated h washington, d.c. than cuccinelli. it's hurting cuccinelli. if the government shu

. >> it's a typical summer afternoon for the fisher family of memphis, tennessee. parents rachel and tony are in their car with their three small children having just left rachel's parents home. tony's in the passenger seat and rachel is behind the wheel. >> we had been driving for about 15 minutes and all of a sudden tony tells me, there's a snake head. >> i looked up out of the corner of my eye and i was like, it's a snake head and i looked back down and started studying, again, and i did a double take and thought, what in the world? >> i look over for a minute and he does a double take, too, and gets out his phone. >> being a daddy of now three, you just anytime anything happens your phone is ready to start videoing. >> and we watch this snake come out from in front of him on the passenger side and start sliding across our windshield wipers and then over to my side. >> before they know it. a 4 1/2 foot rat snake turns their regular routine into a terrifying adventure. >> but i know nothing about snakes, so, i'm just thinking it's a poisonous snake and at that po

the pentagon will reimburse the fisher house foundation when government reopens. >>> an investigation into fires in three d.c. ambulances last august says each of them was accidental. a fire in an ambulance parked outside washington hop center has been blamed on an electrical malfunction. then two fires happened august 13. one may have been caused by flammable liquid leaking on to a hot manifold. the other was found to be just smoke. the man who ordered the investigation deputy mayor paul quandra says with these findings no further action is needed. >>> supporters of abortion rights are celebrating a small victory in virginia. a judge will allow a lawsuit filed by a falls church abortion clinic to go forward. the lawsuit challenges new regulations from the state board of health which subject abortion clinics to many of the same standards imposed on hospitals. lawyers representing falls church health care center say there is no medical justification for the new rules which among other things regulate hallway wid -- hallway widths. >>> i'm watching your money. we're getting a little bre

they're the ones who built the fisher house in dover, delaware so families can stay for free when they retrieve the precious remains of their loved ones. and can you imagine for a second, piers, your mom or somebody gets a call their son just died. they go to the bank. first, they don't make enough money to take a plane to fly to dover, delaware. they look at the news and somebody says, you're not even going to get the money we owe you for your loved one putting their life on the line to protect our democracy. i'm sorry. how dare they? yesterday i saw several congressmen and senators just blow this off. oh, we're going to take care of it. no, they're not. they're going to stopgap, band-aid this, and next week they'll close commisaries, they'll close pxs. children and families won't be able to eat. your show reaches so many people. maybe we can get americans out there who being jump on their devices and start tweeting and e me-mailing their congressmen an say, look, while you clowns look so stupid on all the issues, let's sequester the military and say anything they need we fund. start

come up with is a charity, a well-known, well respected charity for vets and their families called the fisher house foundation. they will step in and do what the government is supposed to do. this was hammered out as the bodies of the fallen arrived back at dover air force base today. we begin with andrea mitchell. she's with us tonight from dover. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. the denial of benefits was so outrageous and caused such an outcry that the white house was scrambling for a fix. the agreement came after the families had already traveled to the air force base. flown home from afghan, received in silence, punk waited only by the rhythmic footsteps of the honor guard. killed sunday during a combat mission, they represent an honor roll of sacrifice. 24 year old private first class, james cody patterson from oregon. at his high school back home -- >> coty was just awesome. he was super funny and had a great attitude. very compassionate and positive. >> reporter: but family friends were angry about the benefit freeze. >> the family not being able to receive the benefit that th

mark fisher let's start with you. you are seeing any apology thatg with cuccinel limicinelli. >> there will be more attacks in the final days. but the trend has been clear throughout the fall. that cuccinelli is in deep trouble and the government shutdown has hurt him badly. there is a tremendous well of illwill against washington. >> the possible defel default ad there is ken cuccinelli who is taking the stink himself. >> more so in virginia than other places because the closeness of washington, d.c. therthere is a tremendous awares of the shutdown by people who are not getting their paychecks and forced to sit home. ken cuccinelli has had to do this dance and saying i'm for the tea party and cutting government spending and taming the monster in washington on one hand and i'm trying to pro tent- protect the voters in this state. and terry is not mr. clean when diit comes to public per percep. >> seymouhe is more associated h washington, d.c. than cuccinelli. it's hurting cuccinelli. if the government shutdown had not

their widows and children who get the benefits. >> reporter: ken fisher who heads a private organization for veterans and their families stepped in to pay the benefits. after seeing our report yesterday. >> they are grieving. they have suffered enough. why on earth should they have to worry about where their next dollar is coming from? >> reporter: while in belleville illinois they offered to donate 100% of profits today to the families of the fall. >> maybe if one person does it, a hundred more will and it will help more people out. >> reporter: tonight president obama told doreen gensler -- >> when i heard about the story i told the department of defense within our administrative powers we should be able to g

that was apparently by arnold fisher. what does that say about the president then? >> well, it says first of all, that the administration did not handle this the right way, because the under secretary of defense was warning that this could be a possibility that this could happen and then congress passes this bill the military pay act that all parties believed that was covered and there was a legal interpretation by lawyers that we were told in the department of justice and they get a ruling that it is not covered. when the administration finds out that, it should act. that is a big problem. i do think for the administration to start funding something was going to raise questions about how funding was going to come out of the house. >> have a great show today and a good week end. we want to hear from you. what do you think is happening with the shut down. who do you think is to blame? tweet us and we will read your tweets and e-mails at the end of the show. >> the agency that monitors our nuclear reactors due to the shut down. we are told inspect toneinspecke one. th