. >> reporter: john mccain warned democrats to tone it down. >> let's stop it. >> reporter: mccain says boehner is brave dealing with the tea party and the debt ceiling. >> the idea of default is wrong. we shouldn't get anywhere close to it. >> reporter: but we're close now. >> our message to the president in congress. defaulting on paying veterans' benefits is not an option. >> reporter: just a day and a half left. if the senate passes a plan to raise the debt ceiling, john boehner would face a big show. would he allow a house vote to pass the plan with democratic support and enrage the tea party? >> thank you. >>> back here in the bay area, an east bay drug raid. a series of drug busts targeting a mexican drug cartel. starting around 6:00 this morning, federal agents raided homes in pittsburgh, oakley, and concord. four people were arrested. this arrest is connected to a mexican drug cartel. it happened a home across the street from a school and a block from a day care center. >> it is upsetting. this is a very quiet community on this end. >> the fbi worked in cooperation with the dea

it's purely because i listen senior republicans like john mccain saying how completely crackers this is. i also remember very vividly speaker boehner himself after the last election defeat by the republican saying obamacare is law and we have to swallow it. >> that's right. >> we lost the election. now suddenly that's not his position and that to me is selfish, childish politics. >> here is the bottom line and it's simple. what we have to do tomorrow morning is go on the house floor, have the republicans put the clean continuing spending resolution on the floor to reopen the government completely. instead, what they are doing is holding the economy hostage and using obamacare as the ransom. that's basically what they did and whether it's defunding or repealing or delaying, there is no way around they are simply trying to extract and extort what they couldn't get when the bill was on the floor passed into law, when the president signed it, the supreme court upheld it and we had an election -- >> okay. >> and they are putting -- >> not. >> veterans against kids -- >> we have voted. >>

it's purely because i listen senior republicans like john mccain saying how completely crackers this is. i also remember very vividly speaker boehner himself after the last election defeat by the republican saying obamacare is law and we have to swallow it. >> that's right. >> we lost the election. now suddenly that's not his position and that to me is selfish, childish politics. >> here is the bottom line and it's simple. what we have to do tomorrow morning is go on the house floor, have the republics put the clean continuing spending resolution on the floor to reopen the government completely. instead, what they are doing is holding the economy hostage and using obamacare as the ransom. that's basically what they did and whether it's defunding or repealing or delaying, there is no way around they are simply trying to extract and extort what they couldn't get when the bill was on the floor passed into law, when the president signed it, the supreme court upheld it and we had an election -- >> okay. >> and they are putting -- >> not. >> veterans against kids -- >> we have voted. >> ex

it's purely because i listen senior republicans like john mccain saying how completely crackers this is. i also remember very vividly speaker boehner himself after the last election defeat by the republican saying obamacare is law and we have to swallow it. >> that's right. >> we lost the election. now suddenly that's not his position and that to me is selfish, childish politics. >> here is the bottom line and it's simple. what we have to do tomorrow morning is go on the house floor, have the republicans put the clean continuing spending resolution on the floor to reopen the government completely. instead, what they are doing is holding the economy hostage and using obamacare as the ransom. that's basically what they did and whether it's defunding or repealing or delaying, there is no way around they are simply trying to extract and extort what they couldn't get when the bill was on the floor passed into law, when the president signed it, the supreme court upheld it and we had an election -- >> okay. >> and they are putting -- >> not. >> veterans against kids -- >> we have voted. >>

john mccain say enough is enough. we're not going to let these 30, 40 members wag the dog and throw it over the cliff. >> speaking of dogs i got to tell you, one thing that scares me, objectively again i'm afraid the only time they listen to rich people is when donald trump says obama is not american. he is talking their talk, you know, the saudi buster talk. he's not one of us. he's a foreigner from somewhere overseas, indonesia, kenya, maybe. and donald trump with all the money and the beautiful wife says you're right. but here's the point here. this is the problem. the tea party doesn't listen to big business. and big business doesn't have the power that it used to have. look at this. when a republican from southern california was asked if he had heard business groups express fears of the government shutdown's economic impact. no and it wouldn't make any difference if it did. >> reed wilson wrote a piece along the same lines. the business community is not what it once was in the halls of influence. for 40 or 45 mem

. >> i was going to say he got beat up by the media punks, john mccain, lindsey graham. >> boehner called your radio show yesterday. >> i spoke to him. boehner wanted to stand by those who wanted a deal. at the end of the deal, ted cruz was thanking house republicans. ted cruz thanked the house republicans led by my friend john boehner. go after mccain. >> here's what i think we're seeing in all of this is a case of jealousy. mccain was jealous of cruz, because cruz ran on a platform, performed what he promised and the american people liked it. right there john mccain was upset because he's tried this all along. >> i think there are two consequences. one, i think this is inevitable it's going to fail. democrats, lock, stock and barrel, they own it, so conservatism is going to win in the end. there is a new conservative leadership emerging -- >> you have to make an argument. you have to have a campaign, not a stunt on the house of the senate floor. >> that wasn't a stunt. >> it was a stunt because it wasn't a parliamentary maneuver. and i love ted cruz. it was a stunt. but you have to have

but what did john mccain say? he said shouldn't we be embarrassed? the problem is, the house republicans and john boehner and ted cruz, they're not embarrassed. and shame on them. >> republicans who are responsible for the shutdown blamed the president. joe wilson, the guy who said you lie. he didn't tell the truth. this decision affirms that the administration is trying to inflict as much pain as possible on the nation's most vulnerable people during the shutdown. that's if you believe joe wilson on anything. it is outrageous that the president has temporarily halted death benefits for fallen americans who have given the ultimate sacrifice. why he didn't know this when he signed this and voted for the thing is not explainable by his current tone. well, the pentagon did warn congress before the shutdown that this would be one of consequences. let's watch. >> we would also be required to do some other bad things to our people. some examples. we couldn't immediately pay death gratuities who those who die on active duty during the lapse. >> the statemen

he got beat up by the media punks, john mccain, lindsey graham. >> boehner called your radio show yesterday. >> i spoke to him. boehner wanted to stand by those who wanted a deal. at the end of the deal, ted cruz was thanking house republicans. ted cruz thanked the house republicans led by my friend john boehner. go after mccain. >> here's what i think we're seeing in all of this is a case of jealousy. mccain was jealous of cruz, because cruz ran on a platform, performed what he promised and the american people liked it. right there john mccain was upset because he's tried this all along. >> i think there are two consequences. one, i think this is inevitable it's going to fail. democrats, lock, stock and barrel, they own it, so conservatism is going to win in the end. there is a new conservative leadership emerging -- >> you have to make an argument. you have to have a campaign, not a stunt on the house of the senate floor. >> that wasn't a stunt. >> it was a stunt because it wasn't a parliamentary maneuver. and i love ted cruz. it was a stunt. but you have to have a public information camp

but what did john mccain say? he said shouldn't we be embarrassed? the problem is, the house republicans and john boehner and ted cruz, they're not embarrassed. and shame on them. >> republicans who are responsible for the shutdown blamed the president. joe wilson, the guy who said you lie. he didn't tell the truth. this decision affirms that the administration is trying to inflict as much pain as possible on the nation's most vulnerable people during the shutdown. that's if you believe joe wilson on anything. it is outrageous that the president has temporarily halted death benefits for fallen americans who have given the ultimate sacrifice. why he didn't know this when he signed this and voted for the thing is not explainable by his current tone. well, the pentagon did warn congress before the shutdown that this would be one of t consequences. let's watch. >> we would also be required to do some other bad things to our people. some examples. we couldn't immediately pay death gratuities who those who die on active duty during the lapse. >> the statem

this is what john mccain had to say. >> the majority leader and the democrats in the house and the white house will say absolutely categorically not, we will not consider what the republicans in the house of representatives are doing in my view is piling on. it's piling on and it's not right. >> he says it's piling on. he went on to say let's consider the republican house proposal as a serious proposal as a way to end the gridlock and a way to get this thing done. he's come out and criticized his own party, chris. are you surprised by those comments today? >> no, i'm not surprised. here's the problem can senator mccain's comments. i'm not sure what anyone expects, you know, senate democrats and the president to do here. are they just supposed to agree to basically propose what's going to come out of the house, that if it's lucky will have one or two democratic votes and no democrat will have been involved in the negotiations versus what's coming out of the senate where clear lly mitch mcconnell and senator reid have been sitting down trying to negotiate something. basically right now it

senator lindsey graham said "speaker boehner was becoming a victim of a failed strategy saying republican has gone too far and screwed up." congressman peter king looked at the entire situation saying "this party is going nuts." now, let's see how this is affecting wall street and the global marketplace. geoff cutmore here with us live in london. ratings agency fitch threatening a downgrade of the u.s. credit rating and i guess for the viewer out there, what does that mean both now with the warning and also if it actually happens? >> yeah, well, it's fascinating because it's not the first time that america has faced a ratings downgrade. in fact, s&p took down its aaa rating on the united states a couple of years back here. so what does it mean if fitch now moves from this negative rating that they've imposed to a knockdown on the aaa? the question really is we don't know. i mean the answer is we don't know. in reality, it meant nothing when we saw s&p do it. in fact, if anything, it reinforced the view that the u.s. was still the best house in a bad neighborhood when you looked at the sit

. >> reporter: speaker john boehner dismissed that. >> the president says if there is unconditional surrender by republicans he will sit down and talk to us. that is not the way our government works. >> reporter: an angry john mccain has been there before. he pleaded with congress to sort it out. >> how is this going to end? we know how it is going to end. sooner or later the government will resume its functions and sooner or later we'll raise the debt limit. the question is how do we get there? >> reporter: one way out would be to take a straight up and down vote on the house regarding a spending bill without any amendments like health care. john boehner says it is not there, but our math says it is, the house has 42 members, there are 32 republicans. all the house democrats are on record supporting a temporary clean spending bill. and we've identified these 20 house republicans who have told us they too would support a clean bill, bringing the total to 220, three more than necessary. and brian, a little breaking news tonight. tomorrow, the president will formally announce that janet yellin,

we're going to be hearing from house speaker john boehner on that, and hear john mccain this hour, whether he is going along with the plan in the senate to vote on a clean spending bill that would carry us through the next election. first ed henry on hour they sorting all this out. >> i think the president directly answered your last guest when he was saying shares the people suggesting default is not a big deal, and the'm president's word, take it out for a spin and try it out. he said this is something that could wreck the economy. that debate still raging. the bottom line is the president had a contradictory message. he was opening the door for talks with republicans, and find something way out here of this budget mess, about by the same token continued to blast them, accuse republicans of being hostage tears and the like, things that won't want republican leaders to run to the negotiating table. so it will be interesting to see what speaker boehner says. what the president did, for the first time say head be willing to accept a shorter term extension, few months, maybe a few weeks, of

john mccain is saying, let's ghetto table, stop name calling, do right by these families in their worst time of their lives. folks put house speaker john boehner pointing out times when president obama has negotiated on the debt ceiling back in 2010 when there were fiscally conservative house democrats that did not want to raise the debt celling. the president negotiated with them. the republicans sayre why not negotiate now? the house is going forward with legislation to make sure that essential government workers work throwing the shutdown are getting paid on time, and to set up this working group, to get members of the house and senate to the table do talk about fiscal matters such as raising the debt ceiling, and house peeker john boehner says the time to talk is now. all we're asking for is to sit down and have this conversation. there's no reason to make it more difficult to bring people to the table. so, there's no boundaries here, nothing on the table, nothing off the table. i'm trying to do everything i can to bring people together and to have a conversation. >> you heard the p

the trips pel players including boehner and the white house may not say they are close to a deal. the left and right would get nervous. they would not announce it. john mccain said we are going to get a deal. >> you are the first one talking about going into next weekend. thank you, bob from washington. >> bill, in eight days, the u.s. will run out of money to pay all of our bills, markets are not reacting well to the deal or ongoing shut down. the dow lost 363 points since the mess started and republican law makers said hitting the debt ceiling would not be catastrophic. if the president were a true leader and i could be proud of him if he were a true leader and he said we will not default and i will not use it as a political issue. >> anchor of after the bell on the fox business network. nhi, allyson. >> do you agree that hitting the debt ceiling could be something other than catastrophic. it doesn't mean you are defaulting or saying that it would be good or okay. it would be very bad. the question is, when we hit the debt ceiling will we automatically default? the president sai

. >> we have heard speaker john boehner denounce remarks like this and john mccain denounced remarks like this. i would warn mr. redford, i don't think they are doing the president favors. they alienate people that could be persuaded. >> maria, quickly, quickly. >> robert redford was talking about the members of congress. i think that is a dangerous road to go down. i think the supporters of the tea party, no question, a muslim born in kenya. i don't think there's a difference between the strong dislike that conservatives have for the president to the strong dislike they have for nancy pelosi or harry reid. i think it's based on ideology. >> it's interesting. you are right. he's talking members of congress. that's a different ball of wax. >> right. >> we are going to continue with this conversation. stick around. 2016 presidential contenders were front and center. did they help or hurt their chances? think about that and we'll be back. i'm breathing better. so now i can help make this a great block party. ♪ [ male announcer ] advair is clinically proven to help significantly improv

. >> reporter: and speaker boehner says he wants to fix that right away. looking at today's schedule. a vote to clarify these benefits should be paid during the government shutdown. senator john mccain says he hopes it jumpstarts negotiationses on ending the shutdown. aaron? >> tracie potts on the hill for us. thank you. >>> today d.c. mayor vincent gray and eleanor holmes norton will take their plea to the steps of the u.s. capitol. they plan to hold a press conference on the east lawn to highlight the negative impacts the district is feeling. this comes a day after a letter was sent to the president and congressional ladiers asking for a meeting. by law d.c. cannot spend its own tax dollars. contingency funds have been used to keep the government running. fwra says that money is quickly running out. >>> 5:33. we don't know if congress will raise the debt ceiling but we can tell you the senate had will vote to raise it before of next thursday's deadline. harry reid filed a bill yesterday to raise the debt ceiling with no strings attached until after next

way but john mccain, who has been very critical of his own party in saying they messed this up and ted cruz led the party down the blind alley. today he said, this is at least a serious proposal by boehner so why won't the democrats sit down and figure it out? listen. >> i again urning my democratic colleagues, we know you have the upper hand. isn't it time we help to find a way out of this, which is what the american people want, rather than who won and who lost? >> now, just a few moments ago, democratic senator chris coons of delware said we're in dangerous territory of the government rung out of borrowing authority. it doesn't feel very urgent around here. either at the white house or the hill. people are still talking. they're acting as if they whatnot to get a deal. but we're now basically two days away and we're not at some critical stage where the liters in both parties are being dragged to the white house. instead, senators are saying we're in dangerous territory and people in both parties seem to be taking it lackadaisically. >> isn't there a part of the republican party that

republican senator john mccain says it's time for the president and the house speaker to start talking. as far as the president is concerned i really thin the president is not helping himself by not doing some serious negotiations, particurly abou the eb. would recommend that both of them come to the table. house republicans have insisted that any bill to fund the government be accompanied by changes to the affordable care ac the shutdown is taking its toll on the white house, where about 3 out of 4 staffers are being kept of- duty. of the 17- hundred staffers at the white house , fewer than 450 are working. even the white house switchboard has been set to roll over to a prerecorded message. the message says call back when the government reopens. cause of the shutdown.... more than 16- thousand marylanders have filed for unemployment. that's four times the number of claims normally made in an entir year. if congress approves back- pay for feral workers... any unemployment benefits they get must be paid back. still to come. afterhe rain... comes a cool down. just how cool it will be tod

you saw john mccain there on the floor, sort of volunteering, saying you know, i'll be the go-between. the problem with john mccain is that i think he can talk to lots of democrats but he's the one who called ted cruz what was it, a whacko? the republicans do not trust mccain. then you have the question of joe biden. joe biden, you know, did a couple of deals. it's the senate democrats led by harry reid who feel like he sold them up the river on those deals on the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling in 2011. so joe biden is not the one leading this charge. >> is that relationship between harry reid, the democratic leader, majority leader in the senate and joe biden that poisonous right now? >> their personal relationship is okay. forgive me, this is a testosterone test, if you will. harry reid is the leader of the senate, and he felt he was sold out, that joe biden came in and did his job. >> when he negotiated with mitch mcconnell. >> and the administration gave up too much in the view of some democrats in those negotiations. so harry reid's point is i'm the point person in the united

the house speaker john boehner got some support today from the arizona republican senator john mccain inra, on the senate floor, senator mccain called boehner courageous. he blasted democrats and the obama administration for rejecting the house plan. the final house plan to resolve this fiscal standoff. >> for the majority leader and the democrats in the house and the white house to say absolutely categorically not we will not consider what the republicans in the house of representatives are doing in my view is piling on. it's piling on and it's not right. so i urge my democratic colleagues let's sit down and work this out. you've got a proposal from the house. we have a proposal between the two leaders. and let's get this resolved. to categorically reject what the house of representatives and the speaker is doing and i think it's pretty courageous qua what he's doing in my view is not serving the american people. so let's stop this. sit down, consider the speaker's proposal, get our proposal done, and then get this resolved which we could do in the next 24 hours. >> senator mccain ur

and speaker boehner standing there saying, well, despite the fact that you read that i didn't want a default, i can't contemplate approving this without figuring out how to cut entitlement programs like medicare and social security. i got to tell you, they're playing with fire. i think they've lit the match. anyone who knows anything about economics -- i happened to major in it in college, and i was a stockbroker for a period of time -- knows uncertainty is the worst, worst thing. uncertainty is the worst thing. the last time the republicans tried this -- and eventually they decided to back up and back off -- it cost us, as i was saying, almost $19 billion over ten years in taxpayer costs. america's credit rating was downgraded. standard and poor's downgraded the u.s. credit rating for the first time in american history, and the stock market sank. it dropped 2,000 points in july and august of 2011. that's a wonderful policy, republicans, just keep it up. keep it up. i mean, who do you think you're helping? who do you think you're helping? people who have 401(k)'s? everyone in america

senator john mccain saying we don't have the votes for this. we'll talk next about what speaker boehner needs to do and what's the movement going forward. first a fox news alert. >> a u.s. oil ship with five americans on board detained by the navy. it was surveying the sea floor when it was forced to sail to venezuela's margarita island. they claim the ship was operating without authorization in its waters. the oil company spokesperson said they are working to get the crew and vessel released. >>> a veteran zoo keeper is crushed by a three-ton elephant. officials at the dickerson park zoo say 62-year-old john bradford was trying to get an elephant to another area of the b en closure. patience became aggressive and charged the worker, crushing him. no one else was hurt. >>> a california man is arrest ed en route to a flight for al qaeda. the 24-year-old muslim convert is charged with attempt ing to join the terror network and lying on a passport application. the fbi grabbed him trying to board a bus to mexico. the man has spent time in syria and

. >> what happens if boehner says let's just have a vote. >> on a clean cr? >> yeah. then it's over. but boehner has to stand up to his party. but they'll say, new york it's not the republicans. it's not. it's part of the republicans. >> there have been 12 republican members of the house calling for a clean cr vote. the question in the "post," is that the beginning of a trend? how many do you need to get it to a vote in that's the tough question. is it beginning to thaw? >> meanwhile we're going to be dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you're thinking like a business person. >> well, that's the only way to think. >> well, not if you're down there. i think you're thinking, okay, listen, this is the second american revolution, there are people who feel like this, there was a great article today about missouri and health care and about the tea party taking over the missouri government saying, listen, we got to make a stand here and show people how horrendous the big government is. when reagan talked about getting the government off the backs of the people, he never talked

, saying john mccain supported al qaeda, the vision, the fault lines are running pretty darn deep right now. >> they are. look, i think mcconnell and boehner, history will show that they were desperately trying to prevent a civil war inside the party. that that's, you know, they have made decisions that i think have frustrated the white house, frustrated harry reid, frustrated some democrats. but when you look at what they were looking at in the moment and a lot of times essentially just trying to survive the week, just trying to survive the month, just trying to survive a quarter, and it's been about trying to prevent, prevent this, prevent anything from becoming the spark that does create, i think, what has the makings of a very bitter -- something that will make ford and reagan in '76 seem quaint. >> lawrence -- >> i'm not one that thinks john boehner does a bad job. he does the only job that's available. every single time i've watched him make a call during his speakership i didn't see an alternative he had, including a bunch of calls he's made which he clearly thought were stupid t