drone attack in pakistan. her killing is just one example used at a press conference in washington, d.c. where two high profile human rights organizations teamed up to issue dual reports of victims of u.s. drone strikes specifically in pakistan and yemen. the story is far from an isolated incident. >> u.s. drone assisted strike killed 12 people in a passenger van. the target of that strike was an alleged militant. >> reporter: according to a report dozens if not hundreds of casualties in the region are because of covert strikes of suspected drones targeting militants but killing innocents. these non-governmental organizations teamed up in hopes of getting an explanation and accountability from the obama administration. in pakistan alone amnesty international reports there have been at least 300 drone missile attacks in less than a decade. the government in pakistan estimate 400 civilians have been killed as a result of drone strikes. in washington this week for a meeting for president obama pakistan's prime mi

drone attack in pakistan. her killing is just one example used at a press conference in washington, d.c. where two high profile human rights organizations teamed up to issue dual reports of victims of u.s. drone strikes specifically in pakistan and yemen. the story is far from an isolated incident. >> u.s. drone assisted strike killed 12 people in a passenger van . the target of that strike was an alleged militant. >> reporter: according to a report dozens if not hundreds of casualties in the region are because of covert strikes of suspected drones targeting militants but killing innocents. these non-governmental organizations teamed up in hopes of getting an explanation and accountability from the obama administration. in pakistan alone amnesty international reports there have been at least 300 drone missile attacks in less than a decade. the government in pakistan estimate 400 civilians have been killed as a result of drone strikes. in washington this week for a meeting for president obama pakistan's prime m

it is a complicated issue, as it is under pakistan's control. the body tasked with the responsibility of ensuring distribution of quality medicines has been under the scanner for some time now. the city is expected to test drugs before granting approval for sale, but many a ledge that current practices have made these tests pointless. contractors and locals reportedly supply hundreds of consignments of fake ends. strokes here -- take and spuriously -- fake and spurious drugs here. >> the remote region has 25 small health-care centers. officially, there are 14 doctors deployed over an area of the seven square miles, but in actual terms, not even those are available at work. the main town has only one city hospital, but its condition is apparently due to shortage of medicines, trained staff, and lack of patient facilities. respiratory diseases are common. with no immunization drive. >> the men are the worst affected. there is -- women are the worst affected. there's not a single maternity center or gynecologist and the whole area. infant mortality

in about 15 minutes, pakistan prime minister on u.s.-pakistan relations. after that, a forum on the future of afghanistan. several live events to tell you about coming up tomorrow. commerce ofergy and committee holds a hearing on wired communication networks affect consumers and businesses. that is on c-span 2 at 10:30 a.m. eastern. also at 2 p.m. eastern, a hearing on young people in foster care who become involved in sex trafficking. witnesses include several members of congress who have introduced sex trafficking legislation. and c-span 3, the american enterprise institute holds a form on whether the new health- care care exchanges promote competition among insurers. that is at noon eastern. hours after the japanese attack on pearl harbor and before her husband had just the eleanorhelen are -- roosevelt was talking to america. >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. i'm speaking about their serious moment in our history. the cabin is convening and the leaders are meeting with the president. the state department and all of the officials are meeting with t

drone strikes in pakistan. they have vowed more attacks on pakistan. the attack triggered angry protests. christians took out rallies as the government moved to hold talks with militants. >> protests hit the streets for the second day in the pakistani city of karachi. most were enraged at the lack of adequate security outside their villages. similar demonstrations were held by the christians in punjab. >> both sides condemn the bombing as an act of hate and war. the miniscule christian community and pakistan is split into organizations. the country's blasphemy law has been widely used to persecute christians. pakistan has been under scandal for the lack of religious freedom in the country. over 700 people have lost their lives to religious violence since january of last year, a u.s. report said in july. >> it's time now for a break, but stay tuned after the break. the u.s. counsel targeted a renaissance-headed province. bangladesh's leader gets tried for 1971 war crimes. violence continues unabated in afghanistan. the taliban targeting foreign troops a

needs pakistan and 15 months, u.s. combat troops will exit afghanistan and the shortest route out is through pakistan to a sea port for troop transfer and pakistan needs the u.s. notably u.s. aid, $1.6 billion in aid, which by the way, was released contemporaneously with his visit. in u.s. aid dispursements, pakistan is the fourth largest recipient. preceded only by afghanistan, israel, and iraq. >> question, is pakistan prime minister determined to turn over a new leaf when it comes to the drone attacks? taylor. >> the answer is no, john. what is happening here is very complicated situation. it is influenced by the domestic politics inside pakistan where people are pushing back against the very fragile civilian government. it is new, it's the first democratically elected government. they are trying to hold up and a lot of criticism and backlash to u.s. drone strikes having a foreign power all the way on this side of the world, kill innocent civilians with remote missiles from remote control airplanes. >> let him finis

pakistan army support. asked about the evidence, the chief was also asked by reporters whether the incident reminded him of the cardinal intrusion. instead of saying that it was a similar situation, nobody is occupying anything. he said the army was well trained and had adequate firepower. brown said the department that we had not lost any of our boys. asked what army troops have not been able to recapture the positions held by the pakistanis, he said, "let us not hide the situation. there is a word in hebrew, and the meaning of that word is patience." >> our army is highly capable of tackling this kind of situation. just give them some time. what we need to have is a bit of patience. when you see the reality on the ground, then you realize that these things do takes time -- do take time. nobody is occupying anything. rest assured. the army generals are very capable. >> yet more desperate attempts. militants >> jihadist are just fidgeted the valley on the void until they can give it their full attention aft

world to talk about pakistan and how in the pakistan forward, last three years alone. we have done a lot of analytical work in pakistan, looking at the things that prompt violence and what might be done to lessen the likelihood of violence, tilda capacity of civil society. -- toe tracked dialogs build the capacity of civil society, reading groups together to talk about differences of opinion. we are very knows, actively involved in the election process in afghanistan. stability for afghanistan is critically important for stability in pakistan. the last thing you need is a collapse and ethnic tsunami afghanistan, because it will not be contained within those borders. it prime minister is in a difficult part of the world. he has a difficult job. we appreciate his being here. the event will involve remarks from the prime minister. we will ask steve hadley, a former national security advisor in the bush administration, to sit with the prime minister and ask questions in a casual setting after the prime minister has finished with his remarks. when we are done, i would ask t

is in pakistan's vital interest. our efforts are therefore focused on helping afghanistan, which is growing through a vitally important phase, with security and critical transition underway. pakistan wishes these transitions to be peaceful and smooth. we also wish the international community to remain engaged in supporting pakistan's reconstruction and economic relevance. we hope for an afghanistan that is firmly on the path of stability and prosperity. an essential element of our policy -- we strongly support an inclusive afghan-led peace and reconciliation process. during president karzai's recent visit to pakistan, we reaffirm our solidarity with afghanistan and its people. i also showed president karzai that we wish neither to interfere in afghanistan's internal affairs, nor do we have any favorites in afghanistan. it is our earnest hope to see the afghans themselves united for peace, prosperity, and development of their country. simultaneously, we are making efforts to upgrade our bilateral relationships with af

he is our pakistan director. it was a good team of people that brought this program together, and i thank them all more that. i think everybody in the room is pretty familiar with usip, but we have others who are watching by television, and so i should simply say that the united states institute of peace has a mission globally of attempting to prevent, mitigate and resolve violent conflict. that's really our focus. and we work very closely with the state department, the defense department, usaid other american usg entities, ngos and then foreign governments, foreign ngos, parties all over the world to further that mission. our most active programs, actually, are now in iraq, afghanistan, pakistan somewhat, our south and central asia program is really quite large. where pakistan alone is concerned, we've convened roughly 80 meetings here at the united states institute of peace with experts from all over the world to talk about pakistan and how to move pakistan forward in a positive way just in the last three years

he is our pakistan director. it was a good team of people that brought this event together and i thank them all for that. i think everybody in the room who is pretty familiar with usip that we have others watching by television so i should simply say the united states institute of peace has a mission globally of attempting to prevent mitigate and resolve violent conflict. that is really our focus and we work very closely with the state department, the defense department, the usaid and other entities and geos and foreign governments foreign ngos come for parties all over the world to further that mission. our most active programs actually are now in iraq, afghanistan, pakistan and somewhat our south and central asia program is really quite large. where pakistan alone is concerned we convene roughly 80 meetings here at the united states institute of peace with experts from all over the world to talk about pakistan and how to move pakistan forward in a positive way just in the last three years alone. done analytical

and pakistan weekend after the navy seal raid in pakistan that led to the death of osama bin laden pakistani officials complain that the obama administration didn't warn the country before swooping in the u.s. claims it didn't trust factions of pakistani intelligence with the information aside amending relations the state department has announced the u.s. will resume one point six billion dollars in aid to pakistan in tuesday's speech sure we've highlighted the two countries common interest of a stable afghanistan a nation with an uncertain future as the u.s. winds down troops i mean how it would have where they're the greatest challenge to pakistan comes from terrorism and extremism. but by the standards no that is social no that is. disinterest it isn't as is sometimes alleged all the rhetoric has talent down at the dispute between the u.s. and pakistan but there remains a deep divide between the two countries while this meeting at the white house is seen as a significant step it's unclear how much it will really believe it's a rebuilding relations in washington as well all right. so what

because if india can do it, pakistan can do it. >> reporter: dr. anita zaidi says it hasn't because of a perfect storm epic floods, political turmoil, and religious extremists who've fought the campaign with guns and rumors. and there was one more setback, the hunt here in pakistan for osama bin laden, in which the u.s. central intelligence agency ran a fake vaccine campaign to gather dna samples. >> which has hugely damaged public health programs, not only in pakistan but in many, many countries, because people ask all kinds of questions. they now think that the vaccine programs might actually be spy operations. >> reporter: the perceived violation of pakistani sovereignty in bin laden's capture, the continuing drone attacks targeting militants have made the u.s. deeply unpopular here. and it's helped extremists, who've long fueled a rumor that the polio campaign is a plot against muslims. businessman aziz memon is with rotary international, which has spent .2 billion over the past two decades and led the global polio effort. he says taliban milit

a failure of policy in pakistan. when the afghans ask us what our policy is on pakistan, we do not even have one to tell them. certainly not one that makes any sense or gives them any confidence. we are very quick to hold the military accountable, as we should be. but no one seems to be as quick to hold the politicians accountable for their failures. the next question comes from the university of wisconsin. i think this is a fair point. with all the signs of progress cited by the panel, what percent of the afghan population is now part of a functioning modern state? we know there is no percentage. but that is not necessarily the benchmark of progress. i do remember an afghanistan the did not have one pane of glass from the length and breadth of the country. kabul today is pretty dramatically different today. >> the objective is not to establish a modern functional state in afghanistan. and that has not been the objective for quite a number of years. i had the privilege of serving on general mcchrystal pasha initial a

pakistan and the u.s. have barely been on speaking terms since the unannounced raid that killed osama bin laden two years ago, and nato killed pakistani troops. that led to aid being cut off. and now the traffic and the aid now flowing again. but it was evident in this meeting, there's still a huge source of tension in u.s. drone strikes. >> emphasizing the need to end such strikes. >> he seemed to indicate that the president did give reassurances behind the scenes. >> if we want to target, and now, probably once the remaining two targets are met. >> reporter: he wouldn't go any further and spell out million what promises were made. but the experts say with the deadline for u.s. troops to leave afghanistan, both countries have little choice but to try to find a solution. for the u.s., it's all about security. >> it's counter terrorism, both within pakistan and groups that are operating across the region by using pakistani soil. it's pakistani nuclear weapons and their safety and security. and it's the over

since 2004 there have been over 376 drone strikes on pakistan and they estimate up to 3613 pack -- pakistans and 1500 injured and they were hit by a strike a year ago and they traveled to washington to tell their story and this is kimberly. >> it happened a little more than a year ago but for 12-year-old, 9-year-old and the memories are still vivid. >> translator: and i saw these two bright lights fall from the sky and hit where my grandmother was standing and everything became dark and i didn't know what to do but i just wanted to run away because i was so scared and i looked at my hand and there was blood coming out of my hand. >> translator: it was at if day was night and it became dark all of the sudden and where my grandmother was i later heard she was blown to pieces. >> reporter: and their grandmother had been picking okra when she was hit and villagers had trouble burying her charred body and what was left were fragments and the family has never been told why the 67-year-old mid wife was targeted. >> translator: i received a letter from some official in the pakistan government agreei

pakistan and the u.s. had barely been on speaking terms since the unannounced raid that killed osama bin laden in pakistan more than two years ago and nato killed 24 pakistani troops. that led to roads being closed, u.s. aid being cut off. but the traffic and the aid now flowing again. but it was evident in this meeting that there is still a huge source of tension u.s. drone strikes. >> i also brought up the issue of drones in our meeting. emphasizing the need for an end to such strikes. >> reporter: the president didn't talk drones, but when the national security advisor of pakistan talked to al jazerra, he seemed to indicate the president did give reassurances behind the scenes. >> they said that we have largely accomplished our targets a key figure that we want to target. and now they have tapered off and they probably once the remaining few targets are met. >> reporter: he wouldn't go any further and spell out exactly what promises were made, but experts say with the deadline quickly approaching for u.

>> the area between afghanistan and pakistan is concerned lack of law and order, particularly in pakistan in that region, is -- has created a lot of problem for iranian authorities. and the same situation is in afghanistan, so iran, iran really has been suffering as a result of lack of law and order both in that part of pakistan and afghanistan. >> we thank you very much indeed for your analysis, that's sazedback azan from pakistan university. >>> having enough food is always an issue in syria. we sent midi dupp to karala and this is what she found. >> these cadets are getting ready to plow the fallow fields of the south indian state of karala. armed with technical skills and know how, they will soon join their colleagues in trying to revive the agricultural industry. >> we need expansion, very good expafntion, through training, the training should be like retraining, highly disciplined highly committed with highly productive output. >> reporter: new recruits spend 20 days learning about fertilizer and planting machinery. more than 3500 cadets known otheir communities as service providers

government here the pakistan has pakistan and the u.s. are allies you could be it could be argued that the pakistani military is failing to do its part. well i think the pakistan military able have to take military action in the tribal belt and specially in north waziristan if it really wants to sort of neutralize that that it could taliban pakistan and other militant organizations otherwise it would be i don't think the americans are going to stop the drone just like that because what they're saying is that they will discuss this matter with prime minister nawaz sharif when he comes there in the larger context of the security situation in pakistan and afghanistan and in that context decide as to what should be the future line of action and how each country can cooperate with the other i think there is no easy solution and there is a huge dilemma within pakistan as well as to whether if it cannot stop it at the same time if it does stop it does focus on have any alternative of launching military operations to clear these areas and if it d

and pakistan is happening right now. president obama and the pakistan any prime, sharif are meeting this afternoon. it is said that between 2500 and 600 people have been killed by drone strikes. joining us now live from watertown, massachusetts is jim walsh, and jim, does pakistan have a legitimate beef with the u.s. over these strikes? >> certainly the prime minister coming to town has vocalized that. he has said we are concerned about it. why? because he faces political pressure at home. pakistanis see this that they can't even control their own territory, and are naturally concerned about the casualties. cashmere and drones, i don't think either of those will be resolved in this meeting, and i think both parties, pakistan and the u.s. will focus on other issues. >> osama bin laden was hiding out in pakistan. he was the most wanted man in the world. pakistan was supposed to be our ally, and some say with friends like that who needs enemies. >> i hear ya. but there are a number of issues -- this is like a family member

pakistan, let's go to phil ittner in london.

. >> reporter: surviving a drone strike a pakistan family go to u.s. to tell their story hoping to put pressure on the government. >> and i'll be reporting on how swarms of locusts have eaten crops across 70% of madagascar and a new plan to kill them. ♪ so barack obama ordered a review of national security agency intelligence operations saying more constraints are needed. the u.s. spying program has come under fierce criticism overall gagss of nsa had been monitoring millions of citizens and heads of state around the world and we have more. >> reporter: the u.s. government practice of listening in on the phone calls of leaders of allied countries could be about to end. in an interview president barack obama says that national security operations generally have one purpose, to make sure the american people are safe. but i'm initiating now a review to make sure that what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean it's what they should be doing. this is prompted by reports in germany that president obama was briefed on the surveillance of angela merke

. >> jon: oh, i'm sorry, pakistan. i didn't know you didn't like your citizens being sk sky-ssasinatted on the whims of a foreign superpoer with. we thought you were cool. (laughter) i guess it's unfortunate but good thing is i guess we can just lay low for a while and just get back if touch with pakistan when the wounds aren't so fresh, you know. >> tonight pakistan's prime nawaz sharif is at the white house for his first face-to-face meeting with president obama. (laughter) >> jon: awkward. (laughter) boy, that's the sort of meeting where you really need old bull in the room, you know what i mean, something else to talk about. yeah, i know those drone strikes are [bleep] up, but i know, you that bone, look at that, he's licking his own ass. what were we talking about? i tell how obama wishes he was right now, secretary of state kerry. because when this went down kerry had the good luck to be visiting our ally france. kerry's timing could not have been better. >> the timing could not have been worse. as. is secretary

because if india can do it, pakistan can do it. >> reporter: dr. anita zaidi says it hasn't because of a perfect storm epic floods, political turmoil, and religious extremists who've fought the campaign with guns and rumors. and there was one more setback, the hunt here in pakistan for osama bin laden, in which the u.s. central intelligence agency ran a fake vaccine campaign to gather dna samples. >> which has hugely damaged public health programs, not only in pakistan but in many, many countries, because people ask all kinds of questions. they now think that the vaccine programs might actually be spy operations. >> reporter: the perceived violation of pakistani sovereignty in bin laden's capture, the continuing drone attacks targeting militants have made the u.s. deeply unpopular here. and it's helped extremists, who've long fueled a rumor that the polio campaign is a plot against muslims. businessman aziz memon is with rotary international, which has spent $1.2 billion over the past two decades and led the global polio effort. he says taliban mil

we have to make a difference between pakistan and yemen. the concentration is not the same and the strategy of the american forces is not the same either. in pakistan, they are targeting some taliban fighters who, most of the time, aren't high value targets. they're just fighters in a conflict that is already complicated. if you read amnesty, the people that are interviewed about drones also explained that they are really scared about taliban mines and offshore forces. so we are in a very specific situation. in yemen, high value targets -- i think that maybe more people are affiliates to al qaeda. what is the capacity today and a few years before? >> something i have not shared with you, it is interesting. in journal documents -- internal al qaeda documents, the tips of how to avoid drones. we translated them. tip 18, hold fake meetings using dolls and statues to fool the enemy. immediately get out of the vehicle and leave in different directions. i don't know how effective that is -- >> but it shows they are scared. in the short term, it h

relations between pakistan and u.s. have been tense particularly since 2011 when bim laden was living not far from the pakistan capitol and with warming ties the obama administration has requested more than 1 1/2 billion in military and civilian assistance for pakistan and drone strikes will continue to be a problem between the two countries, it would appear this relationship is on the mend as the u.s. prepares its exit from afghanistan by the end of next year. al jazeera islamabad. >> reporter: he won't the fight over healthcare law but computer problems are now putting barack obama on the defensive. that story coming up, and we will tell you about a court ruling that could lead to the release of dozens of separitists jailed for violent attacks. ♪ [[voiceover]] every day, events sweep across our country. and with them, a storm of views. how can you fully understand the impact unless you've heard angles you hadn't considered? antonio mora brings you smart conversation that challenges the status quo with unexpected opi

if pakistan is unable or unwilling to prevent the forces in the border regions of pakistan to come across the region and attack u.s. troops and afghan troops, we are within our rights to do something about that. as you said, you said self-defense. that, or using the unable or unwilling standard. they were unwilling to do anything about osama bin laden, so we were within our rights to go in and do something about him ourselves. >> i'll let you. >> yes, if i may jump in for a moment first. yes, absolutely the yemeni government, the counter president embraces the program. there's question about whether he has the authority to allow the u.s. in, because he's a transitional figure, a transitional president. nevertheless, we don't take issue with that. we have not stated that we believe that yemen's sovereignty is being violated. our issue is not whether the u.s. has the right to carry out the attacks in yemen. our issue is is the u.s. following the law in the strikes, and in cases when civilians are killed, we want to see recognition, we want to see people prosecuted if wrongdoing was found in

drones inside of pakistan if that is what the u.s. is willing to put on the table. >> you compare the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan to one with no exit. how can that be improved? >> the history of the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan has been one of torture. where both sides keep coming back to the table. they each have vulnerabilities and interests where some degree of cooperation is necessary. the prime ministerial visit to repair the ruptured relationship , pakistan's leaders are coming around to recognizing that working with the u.s. is in the interest of their country and also for the white house. very crucial, right? >> ever since 9/11. i think the war in afghanistan would have got a different way if the relationship with pakistan had been a better one and on the same page with groups like the afghan taliban and. it was important as well. as we look ahead, we see what is being called the endgame for the afghan war. efforts to have peace talks with the afghan taliban and. they will be on the issues -- they

asylum in pakistan- occupied kashmir. there are fears that al qaeda and taliban militants have set up training camps here. with just a few months before the drawdown in afghanistan, many militants have crossed over to pack fan-occupied kashmir -- pakistan-occupied kashmir, and they are treating the region as a safe zone and protected areas so they can be insulated from the final assault before the drawdown next year. militants are not only committing violence but are also involved in incidents of rape of rural women. many rape victims have committed suicide, and no one has come forward to rescue the distressed women. no compensations were provided. when the pakistani girl malala was attacked by taliban militants, it became world headline and she was given the best of treatment, but here every day, so many have been victimized, and no one is paying heed to their cries and miseries . >> why is islam but quiet on the presence of war and militants in pakistan occupied kashmir? pakistan is not only turning a blind eye to these

and, you know, "because we've killed pakistan's mother teresa." she is very precious to pakistan and she's very precious to the rest of the world. and we were looking after her. >> reporter: from another muslim country comes another life giving offer. the emir of the united arab emirates sends one of his royal planes outfitted as a hospital, a state-of-the-art intensive care unit. and for the entire eight hour flight to england, doctor reynolds and doctor kayani keep malala alive breath by breath, organ by organ. and they also have noticed something else that defies possibility. the bullet took a path that simply cannot be believed. >> the chances of being shot at point blank range in the head and that happening, i don't know. but it is amazing. truly amazing. i don't know why she survived. >> maybe his hand was shaky. >> he hit her there. >> so it goes under the skin, near the skull, the skin but what happens? >> reporter: a bullet traveling one thousand feet per second slips under malala's skin, but as it heads toward her brain, that bone turns

and pakistan for many years, where the u.s. carries out these blatant violations of international law, murder from the air, the drones and the government contends to object. -- the government pretends to object. the money keeps flowing and their shade -- and the charade keeps going on. the u.s. is been using pakistan as another asset. strategy of surrounding china. it plays this game, carries out this relationship with both india and pakistan, although they are in some form of hostility toward each other at any given time. the united states has really been given a blank check by carry out the drone attacks and, at the same time, object and at the same time he perceiving the eight. >> but is this in any kind of way this latest trench of money to appease the pakistani authority over the continued killings of civilians by drone strikes? >> am not sure if it's to appease them are to sustain them. it was a -- they're not very popular governments. it is despised by large part of the population. pakistan has long been dependent on usa

the united states and pakistan have shared multiple goals in pakistan. the united states and afghanistan have to collaborate to steer them towards success. and i think that drone strikes are an irritant. and the united states by now, their leadership and the public opinion, they know that they are unpopular in pakistan. >> two german intelligence officials are headed to washington to demand answers from the white house about a spying scandal. that's after allegations the u.s. tapped the german chancellor's personal phone. siferl rierts groups -- civil rights groups are expected to protest later. >>> one state in particular has been trying to reverse the food crisis. more from kenya. >> these cadets are getting ready to plow the fallow fields of south indian state. .helping to revive the local agricultural industry. in perilous push to become more self sufficient. >> we need expansion, very good expansion, through training, the training should be just like our training, highly disciplined, highly committed and with highly productive output. >> reporter: n

trade strikes in pakistan. to bring return the people she managed to return the fact that people not made statistics we talk to activists from the real world of investigative journalism who are looking beyond just the casualty figures caused by what the u.s. calls decision strengths. lie from moscow you're watching r.t. for more international news twenty four hours a day you're with me to say let's take a look at top story. american exceptionalism is merely an excuse washington they use is to break the law at home and abroad that's what julian assange just told r.t. is evil. in an exclusive interview the way to. start his vision on the future freedom of information and praise russia for giving us a limb to n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden. in an interview here with julian assange the founder of wiki leaks here at the embassy of ecuador in london he affirmed that the exceptionalism that barack obama president of united states is defending is merely an excuse to be involved a law something used by nations such

she traveled with the family from pakistan to the united states. gibson is also co-author of "living under drones." jennifereenwald, gibson, thank you for joining us. aziz,ragic story of tariq shortly after attending a conference on the very issue of drones homeland and being killed. could you talk about the impact of that and also more about tariq and his life? >> it was devastating for everyone involved. it was mentioned in the clip, he irga,elped to organize a j a traditional dispute mechanism. to the we could not go trouble area, so we decided to bring the elders to islamabad. everyone knew it was going on. the idea that the u.s. could not have known that this person was at this hotel, blocks from the .mbassy, is unbelievable as you saw in the clip, many people spend time talking with him, spent time getting to know him, and to our dismay, three days later, he is dead in a drone strike. he was talking about his friends being killed. >> he was talking about his cousin, other family members, his friends. he had accompanied a local elder to the ev

a failure of policy in pakistan. ask us what our policy is on pakistan, we do not even have one to tell them. certainly not one that makes any sense or gives them any confidence. we are very quick to hold the military accountable, as we should be. but no one seems to be as quick to hold the politicians accountable for their failures. the next question comes from the university of wisconsin. i think this is a fair point. with all the signs of progress cited by the panel, what percent of the afghan population is now part of a functioning modern state? we know there is no percentage. but that is not necessarily the benchmark of progress. i do remember an afghanistan the did not have one pane of glass from the length and breadth of the country. kabul today is pretty dramatically different today. >> the objective is not to establish a modern functional state in afghanistan. and that has not been the objective for quite a number of years. of servingrivilege on general mcchrystal pasha initial assessment review. we had a lo

obama says that the instability in pakistan will benefit neighboring pakistan in the long run. the leaders say their countries will continue working together to improve security in afghanistan. but the meeting will do nothing to ease american sentiment in pakistan. nhk world, islamabad. >>> directors at the asian development banks say southeast asian countries will have to work harder to meet a major deadline. they say at the current rate, the ten asean member states will struggle to achieve their goal to build an economic community by 2015. the bank released a report outlining challenges the nations face. it says they need to do more to unify markets by abolishing trade barriers in agriculture, steel, auto and other industries. it also says they need to work together to boost the flow of services, and it calls on them to promote policies to ensure fair competition and protect intellectual property. asean leaders are committed to creating a regional economic community by 2015. but the bank says they'll have to continue implementing some measures beyond that date. it says they n

our relationship with pakistan. to my mind, there's no alternative. to make the relationship with a pakistan a lot more contingent than historically done. we can debate the details about how this contingency is to be expressed. if you have a relationship with pakistan that in effect conveys to them that no matter what they go, american -- what you have done is created a strurm situation where they have no incent toif change. so at the very least, the u.s. needs to looked at i.t. in its own policy to think about how we might reengage with pakistan. let me end by saying a word about india. india is concerned that a premature american exit from afghanistan would end up leaving that country in exactly the way that the indian face it in the '90s. which was essentially a corp. dron from all kind of terrorist groups that would move with pakistani support or without it to attack indian interest. the indians have essentially said they will do whatever they can to prevent the -- in pakistan from being overthrown by force. we

drone strikes in pakistan peeked and casualties, light red, and light red is civilians. they're going down to other presumably intended targets. as strikes increased, so did the outcry. and so did the critics. when it comes to tart targets ad civilian casualties. so is there room for reform? joining us is maureen shah. [ audio difficulties ] >> i have my doubts, and skepticism. and the reason, there's no doubt that drones are useful. , but the problem in this war is tactics, it was turned into a strategy. so yes, there's thought as leaders who were taken out. osama bin laden, and the second tier leadership, but the problem is that at the same time, there was a rise in terrorist attacks across pakistan. because attacks from weapons, used the drone sites and then pakistan. [ audio difficulties ] we don't know whether created more terrorists. >> the increase in support, it's making hatred. safe nation says this is a horrible policy and strategy. counter productive and creates more extremism. i'm going to go with you on this one. there are three countries where a majority of

off-ramps in afghanistan, pakistan is going to become even more important, whether we like pakistan or not. >> richard engle, always good to see you. thank you so much. >>> we are getting exclusive new details this morning about the little girl known as maria found in a roma camp in greece. an attorney for the couple who had maria told nbc news her biological mother was a prostitute whose boyfriend was a pimp. they reportedly tried to find a home for the unwanted infant with roma families in the area. at first the parents who had maria worried police would ask questions but the wife said she just couldn't leave her behind. the couple is illiterate and can't even write their own names but key nie abducting maria and say they love her as their own. police believe the story is credible and they're now trying to find the birth mother. we calm your congestion and pain. [ man ] thank you. thank you. [ female announcer ] you rally the team. you guys were awesome. [ female announcer ] we give you relief from your cough. you give them a case of the giggles. tylenol cold® helps relieve even you

is not talking pakistan because the pashtuns are also in pakistan you know the pashtun live on both sides of the borders and they've been there for two thousand years so you know a war against the taliban is basically a war against the pashtuns and you know they make up nearly fifty percent of afghanistan's population so you can't kill them off so you know they will remain there till the end they will win out in the end michael. it's a very complicated the tribal areas of pakistan it's true that i mean one has to look at the ethnic issues of the pashtun issues but let's face it i mean there that's become a haven for militants that are from all over the world and central asia you have punjabi militants from pakistan that have moved up there it's really it's a cauldron unfortunately of militancy that i think it's important to look at it in a broad way it's not just the taliban it's not just the pashtoon issue it goes because and goes much deeper than that in my view ok but john i mean i gree with michael here is why why not tell you let me go to john what is the u.s. doing there in light of