c-span: what about ralph reed c-span: what about ralph reed now? he--if he'd started the--with a--mr. robertson the christian coalition. is he a--a religious person? >> guest: ralph found faith in 1993. he became born again. and he... c-span: what's that mean? >> guest: he decided to turn his life over to jesus and, you know an--and that to be his motivating factor in life. he was not a big churchgoer before that. he was, at the time, really living dangerously, living on the edge, if you will. and this came at a very, i think, important time in his life. c-span: is he religious now, do you think? >> guest: he is still religious he, you know, goes to church. he's--his wife is religious. yes, they go ev--evangelical--a protestant evangelical church. c-span: you did tell us about his wife... >> guest: yes. c-span: ... who he met when--when she was... >> guest: joanne, yes. c-span: ... she was, like, 16. >> guest: uh-huh. yes. she was very young. they married--she was very young. they--i think he waited till she was 18 or 19 to get married, but they--t

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others still, ralph reed, the social conservative, said abortion should be part of this whole deal. and republicans, whether it's house leaders, movement conservatives, folks in the senate, they haven't said what they actually want, and that's very difficult when you go to negotiations because you need to be able to say what you're asking for. >> i want to bring in congressman charles rangel. always good to see you, congressman. good morning. >> good morning. >> i know you were with the president yesterday. obviously, you're on the hill now. what is your sense? is it that we're moving toward a resolution of some kind? >> no question about it. and there's no hiccups, and there's not going to be anything added to raising the debt ceiling and getting a clean, continuous resolution. the things that they want, they have no clue because they have organized themselves just a small ban to destroy the president of the united states and affordable care. they -- in doing this, they're burning down the government. they're burning down the economy. and they're going to the president and ask for