i feel a lot of americans will feel. >> a real quick point, on governor rendell's point, governor rendell brought up a great point here, a lot of democrats privately say what the governor said. the administration needs to get ahead of expectations on this law, to lower them, that emplemtation will be perfect. coverage, everyone will keep access to their current plan. that's what democrats are talking about. can politically the administration start to get frank? >> do you think he will? robert costa, follow through on this, first of all, part of him keeping ahead of the curve, whether he likes it or not is secretary sebelius, she's the curve tomorrow. we'll see how the gop handles that. but in other areas, where the president sort of denied any knowledge, can i name them the irs, benghazi, all that other stuff, he has never been one to get out ahead of the curve. he's always wanted to say, i didn't know, i didn't know, as the circumstantial evidence piles up, which is it going to be this time, bob costa? >> i think this is the administration signature law. a lot of republicans today on cap

governor rendell, how did this happen? >> the gender gap. cuccinelli in that poll is slightly ahead among men but losing women's vote by 20%. that's the microcosm the challenge of the republican party is going to face. even chris christie, there's stuff in his background, position on choices, his money. he's not clearly an advocate of women's right. his persona doesn't play as well with women as it does with men. i don't see any way the republican party between now at '16 can nar toe that gap, even a generic democrat but if it's hillary clinton, a huge problem. >> before we get to hillary clinton, katty, i agree christie has problems with marriage equality but ken cuccinelli is way out there. he's against borings in every case, personhood bills, called birth control sterilization mandate, pressured state officials who crackdown on women's clinics. >> what about sodomy. >> issues, basic reproductive rights. he way out there and, surprise, doing terrible among women and may cost him the election. >> that's exactly right. he opposes abortion in

chuck todd, ed rendell, michael steele. there have been major developments in washington today with john boehner proposing now a six-week debt ceiling increase. but the government would we main shut under his plan. and republicans are calling for negotiations now to work out a longer deal on the budget, on the debt, and then to reopen government after that. republican leaders went to the white house today for a meeting with president obama late this afternoon. just in the last half hour nbc news has released the results of the latest poll. it is devastating for republicans. when asked who do they blame for for the shutdown? 53% said the republicans in congress. 31% said the president. meanwhile, 70% of americans say congressional republicans are putting their own political agenda ahead of what's good for the country. and when asked what they want the makeup of the next congress to look like, 39% said republican-controlled while nearly 50% now say they want the democrats back in charge. chuck, this is something. i get the se

ed rendell and michael steele. governor rendell, sometimes when i watch that guy, they turn off the sound if that's possible. i see a evangelicalist with the hands and the religious intonation and gesture. is he apocalyptic? is this something years from now we can decide or something right now something really apocalyptic. we either go the right way which is godly or we're going the wrong way which is ungodly. i mean, is this about budget deficits? is this about something you put your fingers on like mathematics? or something else he's talking about here? i think he's talking apocalyptics. i see it. your thoughts. >> i do too. and, you know, it's working for him. people say, well, this strategy was a failure. sure, it was a failure. it was a failure for republicans nationally. it was a failure for republicans in the congress. but was it a failure for ted cruz? he's got bigger fund raising lists as a result of what he did. he's got converts that will go to the wall for him in iowa and states like that. was it a fail

it's about obama. >> let me go to governor rendell. i know you had a fight with a legislature that was not easy to deal with. you had to deal with them in a rough manner. is this negotiating position for the right wing rs to say just give up the thing you did, give up your baby. >> of course not, chris. and michael's right. the american people are smart enough to discern these two things don't go together. they may not like obama care, but they don't want extraneous issue fouling up the budget. i think the republicans made a huge strategic mistake. i would have gone ahead and done a clean cr and then fought over raising the debt ceiling. because the polls on the debt ceiling show that 61% of the american people don't want the debt ceiling raised until there's further debt reduction. so they were on much sounder ground because those things are consistent. they cough fought there. but you're right. i think chris is right. the hatred for the president is warping their judgment. they don't want to make real progress. they don't want real c

ed rendell and michael steele. governor rendell, sometimes when i watch that guy, they turn off the sound if that's possible. i see a e van g-- evangelicalis with the hands and the religious intonation and gesture. is he apocalyptic? is this something years from now we can decide or something right now something really apocalyptic. we either go the right way which is godly or we're going the wrong way which is ungodly. i mean, is this about budget deficits? is this about something you put your fingers on like mathemat s mathematics? or something else he's talking about here? i think he's talking apocalyptics. i see it. your thoughts. >> i do too. and, you know, it's working for him. people say, well, this strategy was a failure. sure, it was a failure. it was a failure for republicans nationally. it was a failure for republicans in the congress. but was it a failure for ted cruz? he's got bigger fund raising lists as a result of what he did. he's got converts that will go to the wall for him in iowa and states like

ed rendell is the former governor of pennsylvania and nbc political analyst. jonathan capehart writes for the "washington post" and is a msnbc analyst as well. there is a new poll shows how lousily they are viewed. the new poll, there is little in the findings in this poll for the gop to feel good about. you think? just 32% of the public, less than a third, has a favorable view of the republican party. that's an all-time low in that poll. 53% say republicans in congress were chiefly responsible for the shutdown. governor, thank you for joining us tonight from here in philadelphia you're in a different location, thank you for letting me be here. my question, yourn, we've had a lot of hell in the country over the years. we've had watergate, vietnam, iraq war. what do you think it was that registered with the middle of most voters except for the hard 30% on the hard right, what said to people the republicans are wrong? >> well, because they were very destructive. and i think people down deep want government to work. and they saw an attempt to destroy the fabric o

joining me now are krystal ball and ed rendell. thank you both for being here. >> thanks for having us, rev. >> my pleasure. >> governor, senator cruz is backing away from this video. his office says these selective quotes taken out of context, mischaracterize the substance of pastor cruz's message. paster cruz does not speak for the senator. but calling the president a socialist, a dictator. you know, joking about kenya. does the senator have to do more to address this and these statements by his father? >> sure he does. this is not billy carter who never did anything, was never allowed to campaign for jimmy carter. jimmy carter couldn't control billy carter. but ted cruz uses his father as a campaigner. he is directly responsible for what his father says. those quotes are not taken out of context. if you read the entire transcript of these things, it gets even worse. he says things like this is a christian nation and the constitution says it's a christian nation. well, read it again, pastor cruz. the constitution says we establis

joining me are ed rendell and michael eric dyson. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> rev, good evening. >> michael, what do you make of the governor of north carolina honoring jesse helms tonight? >> well, you know, this is a matter of the republican party in north carolina showing its true colors. helms was a southern conservative, he was a man who fostered all kinds of controversy because of his identification with the confederacy. he filibustered for some 16, you know, hours against the adoption of martin luther king jr.'s birthday as a national holiday. here was a man who was in the fundamental sense opposed to the best interest of not only african-american people but this nation in terms of its civil rights progress. as dr. king pointed out, civil rights was not only good for african-american people, it was good for the nation. it made us feel closer to the line of our commitment to democracy. as a result of that, it helped not only black people but all of america in trying to come together as e pluribus unum. so he

. >>> "today in the bay's" bob rendell is live where the first ferry is just leaving. bob? >> reporter: good morning to you, marla. it will be leaving at 5:30. this is earlier that normal. hey, okay, how much earlier did you have to get up? >> a lot. >> reporter: not a happy passenger. how early for you? >> too early. >> reporter: how much earlier for you this morning? >> oh, a couple hours. >> and your message to bart is -- >> why? >> reporter: the 5:30 ferry, which is unusual, never happens except this is an unusual time. they set this 5:30 ferry up that normally doesn't leave until 6:00. they have added the extra service here leaving oakland heading to the ferry terminal in san francisco. so they have actually added four boats this morning instead of having eight they now have 12. they have also added extra service. they have the 5:30 leaving instead of 6:00. how much earlier did you have to get up this morning? he doesn't want to say. how much earlier did you have to get up this morning? >> oh, about an hour earlier. >> reporter: your message to bart unions? >> get it t

joining me now, a former governor, ed rendell, democrat of pennsylvania, and goldie taylor. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> governor, blaming a park ranger for a closed memorial. i mean-v you ever seen anything like this? >> no. it's the most hypocritical thing i've seen in politics, and politics is a hypocritical business, as you know, rev. but i've never seen anything -- i've never seen anything that reaches this dimension. perhaps the only other thing i can think of is when they voted against stimulus and then showed up to take credit for the ribbon cuttings for stimulus projects. but this is disgraceful. that park ranger was doing the best she could. and you know, these guys should be back to work. and this idea that i heard michele bachmann and the others say, that nobody's getting hurt. what about the head start kids? what about the wick families? you know, they're just ignoring stuff. it's really disgraceful. >> but to be clear, governor, the park is closed because of their shutdown. the park ranger -- >> sure. >> -- is only doing the job that they for

looking at the situation saying look we fought the good fight we've lost that was what congressman rendell said this morning a republican we heard congressman peter king another republican echoed those same sentiments last night and i caught up with democratic congressman charlie rangle and asked him what he thinks about these more moderate republicans coming forward and trying to join democrats pass a clean spending resolution and here's what congressman rangel said. they are not courageous. but pushed the way. they could they could raise you say no to a challenge to the leadership of the party that is relying on as you noted to maintain leadership so these people would say this doesn't make sense if you want to change your look this is not the way to do it we're going to have their chance last night to do this they could have defeated the spending bill for republicans could have defeated a spending bill last night and join with democrats to pass a clean bill but they decided not to but as the government shutdown continues you can imagine pressure building more and more on these moderate

former undersecretary of the -- gunnarrnor rendell rendell, currently chairman of the commodities exchange. to the council that we welcome today. thank you for coming. colleague of, a the nobel laureates and member of the council george olaf. and truth be cold, a contributor to the op-ed published friday in the "wall street journal" pointing out the feasibility to deploy at the pump methanol made from shale gas that will be between $.75 and one dollar upaper when you and i drive five-year from now to buy methanol that is high-octane. racecar drivers love it. and available at a competitive price within your lifetimes. toden gray, former counsel the president of the united states and ambassador to the european union. amasian from probably the best research institute in america, patel laboratories. i would also like to knowledge and express our thanks for the attendance today of senator pete domenici, former chairman of the senate energy committee and senate budget committee. lyons, a science -- ace the former commander-in-chief of the u.s. pacific fleet. china's economic andchÉ, with us tod

al jazeera rob rendell has more from the u.s. state of identify. >> a road that twists through the wilderness lies at the heart of a battle. pitting some of america's most powerful corporations versus a small tribe of native americans and their allies. and the cove cough corporations. >> we are not going to stand by and let this happen again and again and again. highway 12 runs through the nez tribe reservation and their historic cultural territory in northern idaho. it's also the cheap over the route for the exxon mobile and conoco phillips and general electric corporations to transport giant oil processing equipment like this from this fe manufactures of asia for use in the tar sands in canada. the mega loads are too big to fit beneath overpasses on highways. they take up the entire witdth owidth ofthe two-lane road. the highway 12 corridor is protected. plans to run hundreds of mega load through the corridor appalled these two who have lived nearly all of their lives along the river. >> it's almost incom incomprehee that somet

governor ed rendell. i think it's always going to haunt us that they went down over such crap, such nonsense. i can't use the word that we know fits the mold. this is so disproportionate. something to do with the rights of the treasury down the road to prioritize. is that a reason to bring down the curtain on the american economic condition? >> no. it's also insane. i think with redistricting the republicans as low as they've sunk have a chance to survive and control the house now. but if there is a default, they're done. they're absolutely done. and by the way, it's not just john boehner that has to step up. my suggestion would be and i'm going to get on the horn calling people. my suggestion would be pass the senate bill. and the senate bill, by the way, does make some modifications to obama care. it tightens the requirements for subsidies, gets rid of the fee on employers. it makes some changes. send it over. then it's time -- forget john boehner. we do a discharge petition. it's time for charlie dent

former undersecretary of the army, governor rendell -- gunnar rendell, currently chairman of the commodities exchange. a new addition to the council that we welcome today. thank you for coming. the professor, a colleague of the nobel laureates and member of the council george olaf. and truth be cold, a contributor to the op-ed published friday in the "wall street journal" pointing out the feasibility to deploy at the pump methanol made from shale gas that will be between $.75 and one dollar cheaper when you and i drive up five-year from now to buy methanol that is high-octane. racecar drivers love it. and available at a competitive price within your lifetimes. boyden gray, former counsel to the president of the united states and ambassador to the european union. marty jamasian from probably the best research institute in america, patel laboratories. i would also like to knowledge and express our thanks for the attendance today of senator pete domenici, former chairman of the senate energy committee and senate budget committee. admiral a science -- ace lyons, the former commander-in-chief of

you might be too liberal to win state-wide and it's hard for anybody from philadelphia not named ed rendell to win statewide. >> that's old fashioned wisdom. the fact that pennsylvanians i agree with pennsylvania's majority and they believe women should have access to health services that they need. and family planning is the debate we had in this country and pennsylvania. we have a governor who has been a dismissive and demeaning of women. that's not what they want to see. i stand with pennsylvanians and believe they will stand with me. >> allison schwartz, we will be watching the campaign and one of the hottest races in 2014. thanks for coming on. >> good to be with you. >> up next, senator rubio's big indication. a fresh start for a famous landmark and a lot more numbers you need to know to get through your day. a look at the politics planner. jeb bush is going to be in washington, d.c. to get a check. more president clinton campaign with ter mcauliffe and we will hear from the president. you are watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for t

jason, let's talk about what happened to move and msnbc viewers will note we saw a younger ed rendell, the da of philadelphia. why was there this clash between move and the police who were ultimately found negligent? was it religious intolerance, the move folks were baiting the police in a bit too much? what was the basis for the clash? >> yeah, thanks for having me. i think there were a lot of factors, you have to understand that the conflict between move and city of philadelphia, the police, bubbled up over a number of years, over a decade actually. during that period there was more than one altercation, there was the first deadly conflict happened in 1978. and then a police officer was killed in that conflict and nine move members that came to be known as the move nine were incarcerated for 30 years to life. when you eseptemberer the secon confrontati confrontation, they are in a neighborhood made up of rowhouses and they each feel they are the wounded party. as they go into round violent altercation. and, in fact, it does go trag tragically out of control. >> and, jason, i knew of

governor ed rendell. i think it's always going to haunt us that they went down over such crap, such nonsense. i can't use the word that we know fits the mold. this is so dispropors gnat. something to do with the rights of the treasury down the road to prioritize. is that a reason to bring down the curtain on the american economic condition? >> no. it's also insane. i think with redistricting the republicans as low as they've sunk have a chance to survive and control the house now. but if there is a default, they're done. they're absolutely done. and by the way, it's not just john boehner that has to step up. my suggestion would be and i'm going to get on the horn calling people. my suggestion would be pass the senate bill. and the senate bill, by the way, does make some modifications to obama care. it tightens the requirements for subsidies, gets rid of the fee on employers. it makes some changes. send it over. then it's time -- forget john boehner. we do a discharge petition. it's time for charlie dent a

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affected in the westbound bridges as the traffic comes into the city appeared >> was down on 24 to rendell and earlier accident block the lane is that the right hand for. >> we are still backed up as sluggish for the west were righted. >> san mateo bridge has been slow right now we are looking at a break in the action in the westbound direction although they're still pockets of slow and go or stop and go traffic at the toll blazer >> the golden gate bridge is a smooth ride and traffic is light enough in the southbound direction. >> clear skies at the golden gate bridge which means that we are seeing fogge free conditions. >> right now temperatures are sam taylor at 53 degrees. >> temperatures will heat up as we head into the afternoon it will be slightly warmer than yesterday. it 80 degrees today in concord. 82 in concord. >> we are looking at it can increase concerns for fire danger. >> temperatures will be back in the '60s and later this evening. >> nothing but sunshine and clear skies and seasonal temperatures as we head into the weekend. >> here is stanley roberts who found some people