iranians don't know what is going on. very smart iranians -- it is the nature of the system. they want to avoid what happened to the shah. they want a political system in which it is difficult to overrule the current political order. part of it is the uncertainty that comes in the wake of a revolution. no one wants to make a decision or be at risk. no one wants to take a chance. it is not clear how it works. there's this murkiness. you know, i feel like helen keller. there's so much that is not evident to us. it is not clear. we lack information. north korea is sort of the gold stander of ignorance, but iran is not far behind in terms of the iranian system. i read endlessly and i get frustrated. i did not know about that. political actors. the one that year go all the time is the supreme leader. the supreme leader is many things, one of which is that he is not supreme. he is sort of the political act for, but is a political actor. he is not some autocrat who snaps his finger and things happen. his problem will continue to get worse if he is not there is this unique role that

and also i think the pressure from the iranian people remains on the iranian government. why did we get here in these negotiations. we got here because president rouhani was elected on the promise that he would seek to get some economic relief for the people of iran. the only way to do that was have a negotiation with the international community. you saw he got a positive reception with the steps taken in geneva. but now the expectations are pretty high in tehran. the iranian government will be pressured to have to perform here with respect to compliance with this and in achieving an comprehensive agreement. >> rose: have there been a lot of back door negotiations going on between the iranians and the united states? >> yeah, well a couple things. first of all i will not go into detail with respect to the diplomatic activities that took place. >> rose: but dow con term that the loss of things look that have been going on. this -- just happen out of the t plus five plus 1. >> i say-- let me say two, three, four things about this, right. first is that it shouldn't surprise a

sources say the iranians prevented him from entering the compound further for more iranian deaths or security personnel who were working around the embassy. definitely the culture atashay killed in the attack and the iranians blaming israel at this point. >> reporter: this is a pretty major crisis at the time when he is trying to make a deal with the west and facing criticism back home from hard liners, this could split the government further. >> absolutely. and speaking to analysts and, in fact, members of parliament over the last couple days about that exact topic, their point is any kind of hard line or radicalism is really going to feel further radicalism on the point both in iran and the other side in the talks and with the israelis as well. so iran is not going to view this incident as any kind of positive, very important diplomatic mission there in lebanon, very important regionally for the iranians and they will have to search what it means and what implications it's going to have. >> reporter: stay there, we will come back to you later on this hour and for now in tehran and

iranian relations iranian foreign politics and the geopolitics of the middle east he's also the author of numerous books including his most recent a single roll the dice obama's diplomacy with iran dr parsi welcome to the program well thank you for having me thank you have you with us just a few months ago former president body sautter of iran wrote an op ed in response to the movie argo actually in which he said i openly opposed the hostage taking throughout the election campaign telling students that occupy an embassy in the heart of tehran was a sign of courage is rather than courage i won the election with over seventy six percent of the vote other candidates who were openly against us is taking over all ninety six percent of the votes in that election were good. the candidates who are against it so saying that the u.s. narrative in the narrative that was portrayed in the movie argo all of iran being anti-american was absolutely the reverse of what was the reality at that time and then he said i told khomeini and ronald reagan had it organized a clandestine negotiation later known

that's what the iranian people want. so what's really changed is a rowhani who has come into office. i know many people pooh-pooh this and israelis call him a wolf in sheep's clothing. nonetheless, it shifted the debate on the ground. he's able to bring harmony. the supreme leader who calls all of the shots. and the other areas of consensus making in iran whether press or parliament or whether for now the revolutionary guard to back these negotiations. in that regard, it is a big change in the negotiating ability from iran. from u.s. perspective, the united states as you very well know better than i, wolf, this administration does not want the alternative and that's another war in the middle east. so this administration has shown and demonstrated by not intervening in syria it is not open for business when it comes to military action in iran. a deal is the alternative. >> we'll see what happens. christiane amanpour joining from us london. thanks very much. much more ahead here on this landmark deal that has been announce

the current iranian president hassan rouhani, he ran to win, his main promise to the iranian people was this, "i am going to make breakthroughs in the iranian nuclear dossier and with that will come sanction relief", iran and its economy is hurting. it's under back-breaking sanctions. they need breathing room. they need to make changes. eight years of hardliners in power, run by mahmoud ahmadinejad did not pay off. now hassan rouhani has a public mandate and with grugeing support from the supreme leader they have been able to strike the deal. had it not been for international pressure, it would not have happened, and if not for the willing partners in the west, including president obama and secretay of state john kerry, and foreign minister mohammad javad zarif, and sergei lavrov, it would not have been possible. the right time, place and deal. deals such as this that can be made. there may be stumbling blocks in the future. we have to be patient. give it time from the right and the west. as a pounding founder said years ago a good compromise is a compromise in which both sides are equa

it's the iranian people who can benefit the most. it's the iranians that can benefit the most. but if you come here to iran, you can easily see that this is a very young, sophisticated extremely educated population but they suffer through years of economic sanctions, they see this interim agreement as a golden opportunity to improve relations with the west and improve their lives, wolf. >> certainly is an opportunity there, let's see what happens. cri christianne, you have studied this subject for a long time. what do you think, during this next six-month interim period, can they achieve the elimination of an iranian nuclear military capability? >> reporter: well, this is an interim deal and i would quibble with the word historic deal. in 2003, 2005, the entire iranian program was frozen. this is not bad, but it is, according to intelligence people i have spoken to, it is being described as significant roll back, significant freezing, of the iranian nuclear program. to put into context t sanctions relief was about $6 billion or $7 billion. it is the toughest sanctions regime ev

iranian relations iranian foreign politics and the geopolitics of the middle east he's also the author of numerous books including his most recent a single roll the dice obama's diplomacy with iran dr parsi welcome to the program well thank you for having to have you with us just a few months ago former president body sautter of iran wrote an op ed in response to the movie argo actually in which he said i openly opposed the hostage taking throughout the election campaign telling students that occupying an embassy in the heart of tehran was a sign of courage is rather than courage i won the election with over seventy six percent of the vote other candidates who were openly against us is taking over all ninety six percent of the votes in that election were given a candidates who were against it so saying that the us narrative in the narrative that was portrayed the movie are. all of iran being anti-american was absolutely we were bursts of what was the reality at that time and then he said i told khomeini and ronald reagan had it organize a clandestine negotiation later known as the octo

it caught the iranians this -- it caught the iranians offguard. discredited decades of anti- american rhetoric, a staple of the diet in tehran. how does one paint as an enemy someone who sends you greetings, who speaks of mutual respect? the response to the president was at this offer -- was disappointing. it was as though the iranians saw him not as an enemy, but as something more dangerous, as arrival. means co-hey used wife, something more dangerous, more attractive, and younger. something you fear more than the enemy. now it has been five years since that original outreach and finally these efforts are getting a response. what ever the value of the current nuclear deal, whether you do announce it or whether you supported, you cannot deny that today we are in a very different lace with iran than we have been for the last 34 years. look at what we have. the two foreign ministers are having professional and productive discussions. timeember this, the last ofore september of 1979 -- 2013 that the two foreign ministers met was in october of 1979. d

yes, they insist on enriching on iranian soil. about "y" not freeze that for another six months until another agreement is reached and a more comprehensive one that deals with that issue effectively. which means if they want to lift some of these heavy sanctions that have really penalized their economy and they're hurting, they're going to have to do something to demonstrate that they are sincere, and they really mean business, that they have not pursued nuclear weapons, and be able to satisfy the united states. remember, israel is a major player although not present in the room. the united states needs to consider not only israeli concerns but other allies like saudi arabia. what you have here is united states not in a very comfortable position. these allies accuse the united states, although indirectly, that president obama may be too eager to achieve some kind of a breakthrough, and they may well compromise on certain issues that they should not be compromising. there is tremendous pressure put on this administration to make ab

iranian iranian government in the state was was the right thing the iranian nuclear program which was taking baby steps eight years ago is now a very advanced nuclear program and the western countries within the five plus one have. been forced to accept iran's continued enrichment that is a major step for the russians of course have played a very constructive role and i think that this is within the broader. improved relationship between iran and the russians that it then that has been taking place over the years and the same is true with china but the western countries from the iranian perspective have been forced to concede a major point and that is nuclear enrichment well you know many see this deal as a breakthrough deal and call it a storage of course but let's now take a look at some of the discrepancies there i mean we've heard earlier iranian president hassan rouhani saying that the deal seals to ron's nuclear rights and yet john kerry u.s. secretary of state to stress that the right here in the richmond is not part of this deal so why is there such a diversity of opinion or i

it would have to have a vote about that, in the iranian system. that could introduce an additional complexity, but it is something we would certainly want it to do. >> we welcome this agreement, although it is a first step in a long process. i remind the foreign secretary that president obama and the american congress postponed a decision as a result of this parliament stopping the foreign secretary and the americans having an attack on iran. more importantly, if it is sufficient to sit down with the iranians to discuss what is a very serious issue, why are we not facilitating talks on syria? are we going to wait another six months, allowing that carnage to go on? >> the debates that we had, whatever side people were on, about military action in august were about military action relating to syria, not iran. it is very much part of our policy, as the honorable gentleman knows, to promote a political solution in syria, including supporting a peace conference on syria, and i hosted the friends of syria core group in london last month to agree our app

the second achievement is the enrichment right by the iranian nature on you iranian soil. whatever interpretation this right has been stipulated by this agreement, stressing that iran will go on with its enrichment program and for this reason i announce to the iranian nation that iran's enrichment activities will proceed similar to the past as in the past, and during the 6 months of the agreement, the facilities will continue their activities. speaking of the third achievement of this agreement, is this very point that the world powers have announced that with the termination of the comprehensive task which will start from now on and the attainment of the comprehensive agreement, all sanctions will be lifted. the u.n. sanctions, the unilateral sanctions by the e.u., or the u.s. it has been announced within this agreement that all sanctions will be lifted step by step with the continuation of talks, and this is another point that has been besieged by this agreement. the fourth point is that the sanctions organization will be defeated and crushed whether others like it or no

the iranian sanctions that the united states government has put on the iranians have been significant enough that it brought the iranians to the table, and we blinked. the united states blinked. that's the tragedy in all this. whatever happens with the agreement, whatever one views the merits of whether the agreement was the right move for us politically or not, or geopolitically, the fact of the matter is it would have been as one person told me today, a gimme, an easy one for the iranians to have released these americans and as cnn's own wolf blitzer said today when questioning the spokesperson for the national security council, why is it that he is not released, why was that not a precondition, why wasn't sayid abedini and the others standing next to john kerry when he announced this deal being struck, so we were across the table from the iranians and we did not bring home americans. to me, that's a tragedy and it's outrageous. >> if you could get a message to your husband who is inside prison as we speak right now, what would it be? >> hang in there. we're spending every waking mo

is it really just him or is this possibly a bigger shift in iranian think more looking at. well i don't think this is a shift in or any i'm thinking except in so far as it's a contrast with the diplomacy of the mahmoud ahmadinejad administration. and in a jot of course took a much more nationalist line in general on. the west and on the whole question of reaching accommodation with the west he represented one of the two major fact actions within iranian politics which was posi aligned with the islamic revolutionary guard corps and this economic and political interest and that was a much tougher line in general with regard to. relations with the united states and with the west but if you go back to before the ahmed a child regime or government i think you see that there is really a continuity here between the certainly the economy administration in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and the early period of. thousands and the rouhani administration after all rouhani was the main national security strategist for the to me as well as his possessor of us and johnny so i think

that's actually one of the things iranians are asking a national commission to involve iranians because they claim they know how to do it. >> thank you for that question. as for the international groups working with the world bank, food and agriculture organization's to install so monitoring stations. problems of the monitoring stations get put in. there is not specific maintenance. you can collect all the data in the world but if you don't have any analysis plan, what's the purpose? that i've been watching. a lot of times asian development bank seven funding as well as in just put in wells across the country. however, there are some ms. glenn metrics because many times those groups are interested in the amount of money they can obligate and the number of jobs they can create but the true sustainability of the project from representative, everyone instruments the project they want to do and there's no -- how you want to back that you may not have it. and truly finally other in national organizations that are working with the environment, as barbara alluded to very early in this, there i

-iranian relationship. the controversy will be the easing of the international sanctions on iran during the six-month interim period. some will criticize the administration for going it saying it's going to encourage the iranians to go forward. others will say the architecture of the sanctions remain in place if the iranians cheat like the north koreans did. the architecture, you will hear that a lot from secretary kerry and presumably from the president himself. i think barbara starr is with us. barbara, are you there? unfortunately she's not with us yet. jim sciutto is with us in geneva and candy crowly is in washington. we are expecting to hear from the president of the united states. an agreement has been reached in geneva switzerland between iran and the internal community on the other side. we'll take a quick break. much more after this. ed lobster. combinations of your favorite seafood from lobster to crab, shrimp and mussels in a savory broth. try one today, and sea food differently. get a coupon at

have one point that just yesterday iranian supreme leader came. and he's foreign minister trying to get these deal so it is not the rules of picture that iran is trying. extra miles around the still trying to. address. their own people than trying to. stay. but we shouldn't be surprised that we shouldn't be surprised by that they're speaking to their own people flynt you know i again you know it seems to me that we could have all the political rhetoric where you want you know what the israelis say about your round with iran's about the israel you know blah blah blah blah blah we've heard it for a long long time but that shouldn't stop countries from having cool heads and recognizing their national interests and this is what this is all about and that's why i said at the beginning of the program it's got to be about trust it is about trust it is about recognizing interest and i think that you know you ask what will happen if there is not an agreement i think the iranian plan b. you know they want to pursue these negotiations that are going on right

this is what iranians believe. in fact, after the revolution and --ok the israeli embassy in tehran and give it to the plo. the iranians believe that we as a country favor the jewish state over the muslim states and therefore we are anti-islamic. and there are all sorts of arguments against -- against that. we have muslim chaplains in the american military. we should be part of the organization of islamic countries because the u.s. has a lot of muslims. there is some congressman that was sworn in on the carotid -- koran. this is why you need congresspeople. i am quite serious. this is what the iranians believe, that we don't like muslims. they will read about the story in a gas station murdered in arizona because somebody thought he was a muslim. you can take something and wildly exaggerated and it becomes true. fourth, we are trying to strangle iran economically. we are. do it. reasons to economic sanctions. they have worked. and iran is indeed strangled. iranians regard this more of an emotional kind of stranglin

the iranian position is there should be no conditions on iranian participation in geneva 2 or the syrian process. some may read the geneva communique and some of the language about the mutual consent, the transitional -- i won't go great detail here. we can after if you would like. as a condition regarding assad's participation or not. the iranian position, as i understand it, told to me by the foreign minister is that they're ready to help on geneva 2. they're in touch with the syrian government. some opposition groups. they believe there is an interest in ending the war, they don't necessarily, as i can, support the geneva communique but willing to play a role and will attend geneva 2 if invited. as you mentioned, ambassador was just in the iran. he said i forgot the expect words he used. it's natural that iran should participate. i read the comment by others. the russians feel that iran should participate. and the logic it takes that iran should participate because of iran's relationship with the syrian government. and the reality of the process is there will not be an end to the conf

it caught the iranians offguard. it discredited decades of anti- american rhetoric, a staple of the diet in tehran. how does one paint as an enemy someone who sends you greetings, who speaks of mutual respect? the response to the president's outreach and offer was disappointing. it was as though the iranians saw him not as an enemy, but as something more dangerous, as a rival. the word they used means co- wife, something more dangerous, more attractive, and younger. something you fear more than the enemy. now it has been five years since that original outreach and finally these efforts are getting a response. what ever the value of the current nuclear deal, whether you denounce it or whether you support it, you cannot deny that today we are in a very different lace with iran than we have been for the last 34 years. look at what we have. the two foreign ministers are having professional and productive discussions. i remember this, the last time before september of 2013 that the two foreign ministers met was in october

which the iranians are willing to do the question is whether the united states wants to or is willing to give up this what it regards obviously as a leverage over the iranians in the form of the sanctions the israelis don't want them to do it and i'm afraid the there is a temptation here for the united states to to try to use this leverage to the hilt and perhaps to sacrifice the possibility of the kind of deal that it could get so i think that's the real issue that is posed by the next round well it seems to me michael fine go to you with this did the ring on the part of the west would give iran every reason to want to build a nuclear weapon now ok it gets inverted ok if you can't make a deal you can't negotiate then what do you do you defend yourself go ahead. well i think that the more hard line elements of the revolutionary guards in iran may you know may agree with that than there is a kind of a strategic logic at least at a certain level although you would think that a broader level iranian security is not really going to be guaranteed by having one or two bombs on the contrary

dilemma the iranian agenda is under the hands of a certain number of neoconservatives diplomats and they still have their hand on the issue so again that is a hard pressure on our minister found affairs and to respond directly to your question to the question you raised you have to have in mind as you mentioned that minister of interior is. just came back from israel that the president will be going in israel the seventeenth of november and of course we have to have in mind that there is a game change inside the israeli power stakeholders the minister of foreign affairs of gottlieb in money women will be definitely wanting to have a more harder line on this so again it's very. evident that israel was has me may have used france in order to do a show force and sure that there isn't there should not be a stall game in this or not be a bad agreement again as you mentioned it not only on the iranian agenda but on the plutonium agenda one of the issues that was raised by a lot of abuse is that we were very afraid of the. reopening of the reinforcement of the iraq plant which is not a vot

i will tell you have iranians -- i will tell you how iranians think. i just subscribed to these use. i will tell you how we look. first of all, it looks like we support dictatorship across the middle east. this is -- we supported iraq's attack on iran. it was a dramatic event. our hands on this are not completely clean either. there's a brief period of time where we were trekking off and selling weapons to the raqis. t was a horrible regime up there and evil, if i may use that word. the assad regime in syria. third, the united states favors srael. what iranians believe is that the u.s. favors the jewish faith over muslim states. states that are populated primarily by muslims. you may not agree. it may not be too. this is the perception. this is what they believe. after the revolution, they took an embassy and they gave it to the -- they celebrate jerusalem day in tehran. iranians believe that we as a country favor the jewish state over the muslim state. therefore, muslim states, we are anti-islamic. there are arguments against that. the u.s. has a lot

this is an example of what exists on the iranians side -- does the iranian president had the authority to negotiate, can he deal with his hawks and hard- line people that do not want to have a deal? they are looking at the u.s. the exact same way. they are asking does the president have the ability to deal with congress and stand firm in case congress were to come in and try to sabotage the deal? host: rouhani celebrates triumph of his first 100 days. guest: the language in the agreement does not use the word that there is a -- what appears to have happened is a formulation has been found in which the u.s. and other countries recognizes the program, rather than the right to enrich. it appears to be moving in a situation in which the iranians will enjoy the same rights and privileges and responsibilities as all other states. host: jamie is from indianapolis, indiana for independence. you are on with trita parsi. caller: i have been observing this for a while. one conclusion i have reached is that the hawkishness of the israeli leader, netanyahu, it seems he would not be satisfied unless

have one point that just yesterday iranian supreme leader came in. coal oil is very. violent. and he's foreign minister trying to get these deal so it is not the rules of picture that iran is trying. extra miles around the still trying to. address. their own people than trying to. stay. but we shouldn't be surprised we shouldn't be surprised by that they're speaking to their own people flynt you know i again you know it seems to me that we could have all the political rhetoric where you want you know what the israelis say about around what the around says about the israel you know blah blah blah blah blah we've heard it for a long long time but that shouldn't stop countries from having cool heads and recognizing their national interests and this is what this is all about and that's why i said at the beginning of the program it's got to be about trust it is about trust it is about recognizing interest and i think that you know you ask what will happen if there is not an agreement i think the rainy and plan b. you know they want to pursue these negotia

iranian nuclear program. >> in awkward timing the iranian prime minister spoke in geneva at exactly the same time. >> i believe it is important that we all of us seat the opportunity to end an unnecessary crisis and open new horizons, based on respect for the rights of the iranian people and removal of any doubts about the exclusively peaceful nature of iran's nuclear program. >> under the deal iran agreed to halt you'll enrichment and will neutralize its stockpile. it will halt progress on its enrichment capacity, meaning it won't install centrifuges. it won't increase stockpiles, there'll be no advancement at the iraq reactor. and iran will allow access to inspectors from the international atomic energy agency to its nuclear sites. in return there'll be a limited easing of specific economic sanctions. this first step is all about building trust. the agreement will last for six months and president obama made it cheer that if iran doesn't meet the commitments the pressure will be stepped up. that may be little consolation for israel opposed to any deal. it's the challenge for the u.s.

these sanctions have had a substantial impact on the iranian economy and with the election of a new iranian president earlier this year, an opening for diplomacy emerged. i spoke personally with president rowhani of iran earlier this fall. secretary kerry has met multiple times with iran's important minister and we have pursued diplomacy bilatly and with our partners, the united kingdom, germa germany, and russia, today that opened up a future in which we can verify that iran's nuclear program is peaceful and that it cannot build a nuclear weapon. today's announcement is just a first step, it achieves a great deal. for the first time in nearly a decade we have halted the progress of the iranian nuclear program and key parts of the program will be rolled back. iran has committed to halting certain levels of enrichment and neutralizing part of its stock piles. iran cannot use its next generation centrifuges for urani uranium. it cannot install or start up new centrifuges and its production will be limited. iran will halt work at its plutonium reactor and inspections will allow the internation

. >> this makes iranians proud. thanks to these meetings people have been happy over the last couple of days because they're overcoming their problems. >> reporter: iranians see the agreement as an end to the chokehold of sanctions long endured. >> we're very optimistic with these relations being forged our lives can go back to how they were before. it's very nice and desirable to have relations with other countries after ten years. >> reporter: secretary of state john kerry announced over the weekend an agreement in which iran would halt major components of its nuclear program in the first-step deal. iran will curtail it's uranium enrichment program. in exchange the u.s. will release $7 billion worth of frozen assets. secretary kerry said any deal is fragile, and iran must keep up its end of the bargain. >> this is not going to change overnight. we have a long building process to engage in here. we need to put to test iran's words and intentions without any cobwebs, without any false assumptions, without any illusi

get a deal with the iranians. it is amazing the level of rhetoric they'll throw at the american people. but not to be outdone, mike rogers, who happens to be the chairman of the house intelligence committee, said, "it's almost like it's a deal just to get a deal." really? it's a deal just to get a deal. so can you imagine that conversation? president obama saying, we've got to get something with the iranians, because this obama care website is a little bit slow. well, maybe the republicans said it because they knew some broadcasters on the right would take the bait, none other than the folks across the street. fox news channel steve douchey jumped on the obama care distraction bandwagon. he wasted no time spreading the absurd idea. >> oh, isn't that curious timing. out of nowhere, you know, the amidst of obama care not unrolling correctly, the president's poll numbers never been lower. look, john kerry polls are out of his head and changes the subject. >> that's absolutely amazing. neil saw it too. he said, hey, l

the iranian regime is committed. israel that has right to defend itself, by itself again any threat. they were strong words and echoes the general consensus that the deal doesn't go far enough in dismantling their nuclear program. the direct concern israeli's face or have focus on are the centrifuges. they want to see them dismantled and the material taken out of country. they fear they can still make the bomb. they have emphasized, this is the number one issue. they believe iran, especially a nuclear iran is the largest, strategic threat to the country. we have been talking to people on the streets and getting a reaction. most people are against it but, you know, president obama has tried to alleviate the fears saying israel has good reason to be skeptical about iran and wanted to reassure that their security is a priority. there's fear the sanctions that are being eased could collapse the whole regime and it would be impossible to ratchet it up. president obama and secretary kerry said that is not the case. >> we k

officially 10% of iranians are out of work. that number is so low, because every uranium over the age of 10 who works more than an hour a week is considered employed. analysts say realistically close to 30% of adults do not have jobs. when they find them the costs outweigh the rewards. >> translation: about job opportunities - yes there are some, but it's not properly balanced. we call job seekers saying, "there's a job for someone like you." the first question is about pay. we can't convince people to accept a job at the minimum value because the cost of living and inflation is high. >> inflation is 36%. under the new government that has decreased 5%. economists blame government mismanagement and sanctions for iran's economic crisis. in the final 18 months of mahmoud ahmadinejad's president say the iranian rial devalued as much as 70% against the u.s. dollar. under the new government the rial stabilized in value but has not improved. blue collar workers say their situations are getting worse, not better. >> translation: the go

these sanctions have had a substantial impact on the iranian economy and with the election of a new iranian president this year an opening for diplomacy emerged. >> i spokespersonly with the president earlier this fall. secretary kerry has met multiple times with iran's foreign minister. and we have pursued intensive diplomacy. bilaterally with the iranians ba and together with the p 1 partners. france germany and china and the european union. today that diplom diplomacy opea new path toward a word tha worls more secure. a path where we can verify that iran's peaceful and cannot build a nuclear weapon. today's announcement is just a first step it achieves a great deal. for the first time in a decade we have halted the process of the iranian nuclear program and keep parts of the program will be rolled back. iran has committed to halting certain levels of enrichment and neutralizing part of it's stock piles. they cannot use the next generation of centrifuges. they cannot install or start up new centrifuges. and production of centrifuges will be limited and they cannot continue work and it wil

have one point that just yesterday iranian supreme leader came and. coal oil is very. curse on. violin makers and he's foreign minister trying to get these deal so it is not the rules of picture that iran is trying. extra miles around the still trying to. people and trying to. stay. but we shouldn't be surprised we shouldn't be surprised by that they're speaking to their own people flynt you know i again you know it seems to me that we can have all the political rhetoric where you want you know what the israelis say about around what the around says about the israel you know blah blah blah blah blah we've heard it for a long long time but that shouldn't stop countries from having cool heads and recognizing their national interests and this is what this is all about and that's why i said at the beginning of the program it's got to be about trust it is about trust it is about recognizing interest and i think that you know you ask what will happen if there is not an agreement i think the rainy and plan b. you know they want to pursue these negotiations t

they much prefer the idea of trying to talk to the iranians. they do not -- there has been no discussion of a complete lifting of sanctions. they say that possibly by easing some things, perhaps as the iranians would like to see an easing on the oil exports and an unpresidenting of some of their foreign bank accounts, they say that they've been looking for that in a six-month interim period and would that then establish an atmosphere of better good faith and then improve things? well that was on the table for these three days. what stopped it were enough to keep those sanctions from being lifted. it is important to note that one of mandates that was brought in when the president was brought to office included an easing of sanctions. how much time does the president who was seen as a comparative moderate have if, indeed, that mandate is not fulfilled? and so, you know, there is a lot of tenuis issues here, will the iranians return, come back to negotiate with the americans, p-5 plus one, or does it come to a point where they will say that neithe

this is what iranian's belief. in fact, after the revolution he took the israeli embassy in transit and they gave it to the plo. they celebrate jerusalem day in and to get to the rain is believed we as a country favor the jewish state over the muzzle state and, therefore, muslim states therefore we are anti-islam and the there are all sorts of arguments against the. we have muslim chaplains in the american military. we should be part of the organization of islamic countries because the u.s. has a lot of muslims. there was some congressmen sworn in on the koran. okay. [inaudible] >> this is why you need congress people -- really, i'm quite serious. so this is what the iranians believe, that we don't like muslims. and they will read about the story of a sikh guy in a gas station of murder in arizona for some who thought it was muslim. you take something and you wildly exaggerated and it becomes truth. fourth come we're trying to strangle iran economically. we are. we have reasons to do it. economic sanctions, and ira

so i think the iranians have to respect that. and that's why we needed this time and space for negotiations. i think the president now is going to have to focus on this, probably as his number one national security issue for the next four or five months. we're going to need a lot of help from our allies, the french and the british especially. but the president has to operate now on multiple levels. he's negotiating with the iranians an all those other countries. he's trying to establish a separate bilateral challenge channeled to the iranians that we haven't had in 34 years. he's also got to negotiate, the president, with the israelis and saudis who oppose what he's doing and he's got to negotiate with congress that wants to slap on more sanctions at a time when the president doesn't want that. this is about as challenging as it gets. >> ifill: way, you-- yeah, you just put a lot on his plate. walter russell mead, as hard as it was to get to this temporary six month pause, how much harder will it be for this administration or any

this is an example of what exists on the iranians side -- does the iranian president had the authority to negotiate, can he deal with his hawks and hard- line people that do not want to have a deal? they are looking at the u.s. the exact same way. they are asking does the president have the ability to deal with congress and stand firm in case congress were to come in and try to sabotage the deal? host: rouhani celebrates triumph was first hundred days. -- celebrates triumph of his first 100 days. guest: the language in the agreement does not use the word that there is a -- what appears to have happened is a formulation has been found in which the u.s. and other countries recognizes the program, rather than the right to enrich. it appears to be moving in a situation in which the iranians will enjoy the same rights and privileges and responsibilities as all other states. host: jamie is from indianapolis, indiana for independence. you are on would trita parsi -- you are on with trita parsi. caller: i have been observing this for a while. one conclusion i have reached is that the hawkishne

if the iranians are going to object that the u.s. is imposing additional sanctions for human , they have put into law the threat that. uranium?to enrich the fine. let's talk about it. one of the things you're going to do to go beyond what the agreement says. let's do an agreement about what additional measures they will take have a which we wanted them to do but they refused in negotiations and did not have the final agreement. we should not give up unilateral points that were hard fought in a negotiation. would be my first caveat about this statement. it does official says not prevent us from implementing sanctions.ng existed typically designated individuals and entities every few weeks because the iranians are constantly creating new routes in order to evade, front companies, finding new people to work with to try and invade existing sanctions. verynk it would be important for the administration to continue the process of detonating individuals and then to take things -- and entities under existing u.s. sanction rules. if the unite

i will tell you have iranians -- i will tell you how iranians think. i just subscribed to these use. i will tell you how we look. first of all, it looks like we support dictatorship across the middle east. this is -- we supported iraq's ttack on iran. it was a dramatic event. our hands on this are not completely clean either. there's a brief period of time where we were trekking off and selling weapons to the iraqis. it was a horrible regime up there and evil, if i may use that word. the assad regime in syria. third, the united states favors israel. what iranians believe is that the u.s. favors the jewish faith over muslim states. states that are populated primarily by muslims. you may not agree. t may not be true. this is the perception. this is what they believe. after the revolution, they took an embassy and they gave it to the -- they celebrate jerusalem day in tehran. iranians believe that we as a country favor the jewish state over the muslim state. therefore, muslim states, we are anti-islamic. there are arguments against hat. e have muslim chap

they had at least implicitly promised to the iranians during the talks ok i think because it looks like it gets down to enrichment here again you have the united states and maybe france here just can't get their you know the nonproliferation treaty they have the right to enrichment and but again the exception to the rule is always around this is what it looks like they don't want an agreement because if enrichments there they don't it's in their quote unquote d.n.a. as i've read recently that you can't trust iran that's the implicit explicit message from washington. well i think the the problem with the right to enrich here is both more and less than what it is made to appear on one hand look the the real the real situation is that the that secretary kerry does not believe that iran can be deprived in real terms of the ability to enrich which means that in fact they cannot be deprived of the right to enrich the no question about that what the united states is actually doing here is is keeping this negotiating leverage if you will for a later phase of these negotiations i mean this is ki

iranians need fuel to make operational. without sufficient fuel, they cannot start up the iraq -- the reactor. that andore clarity on there are specific requirements and agreements made with that. we will outline them, if that is helpful. we have the expectation that they will abide by and if they do not, they will be violating the agreement. i would have to check if there has been more specific follow-up in the last couple of hours. i'm happy to check. >> he said that yesterday. was that if she is referring to a road and a building, that is something different. there are specific requirements and he repeated many of them in his public comments. no nuclear fuel will be produced and no installations installed. we put specific requirements in place because we wanted to ensure that iraq would be operational. that yoube fair to say are not convinced that anything he said necessarily implies that they are or are planning to violate the agreement? >> correct. >> you draw a distinction between construction, which includes building

at the end of this the iranians are going to be able to enrich uranium below five%. many simply a pipe dream. some of the reasons people are upset is they realize once there is a deal and once there is verification system that iran can't cheat, can you kiss good-bye the chance of having a war with iran. some of these elements are of concern they would prefer to have a military confrontation and they know in eliminates the risk of war. >> that is just not accurate. we don't want to have war with iran, we want iran not to have a nuclear weapon. 20% not low and very close to weapon, uranium enrichment is not linear. once you are at 20% you're close to 90%. once you're at 3.5% it's easy to get up at a high level. let's step back here. the u.n. security council has not even said that iran can enrich uranium at all. individuals few countries in the world enrich uranium. it's something they don't need and the world has been trying to stop it and it's very concerning that they would get the sanctions relief that they badly need, which is something the u.n. security council -

not listen to the words of the nazi regime and now is so anxious that the world will hear what the iranian leadership has said about the about israel what they call the high us are you near the zionist entity and the leadership in iran including mr rouhani some years ago including mainly the supreme leader ali khamenei has called for the destruction of israel and there is no dispute between all intelligence services including the russian s.v.r. when speaking off the record that iran is trying to obtain nuclear military capability iran cannot justify its immense nuclear build up by trying to create energy they don't need mr bergman i don't think iran always this explanation or that justification to ease a real or indeed any other country for that matter and let me just mention that while israeli history was indeed very traumatic it's by far it's not the only country that have very painful experience throughout history but coming back specifically to the talks if we look at the details of the deal that's where under discussion in geneva if you believe diplomatic sources it was really the fir

it was signed after iranian six world powers failed to reach an agreement in geneva to help diminish western worries over iran's nuclear capabilities. us secretary of state john kerry has said iran turned down a deal over its nuclear program during talks in geneva on saturday earlier it was reported in france route in the agreement kerry shutdown the claims and said iran was unwilling to accept the deal. us officials clarified that there are no differences between france and the us when comes to the terms for a deal on iran speak to their progress i always say the combination of crippling sanctions. in the military option. all were to stop iran and has a nicely. kills me. i think it's important to have a steady nerves. the firm purpose. install this program we can do it. yuri also brushed off the sharp criticisms over the suggested agreements made by benjamin netanyahu saying that the israeli prime minister fails to acknowledge the new agreement has been reached and there is resistance is premature. the secretary of state mentions that the us has held several meetings with israeli of

but anything is good for iranian and iranian people should be done anyway. i don't care about the government, our government, what they are sending. but anything is good for iranian people should be done. >> okay. this is a refrain that we heard over and over again from iranians themselves. they're peaceful people. we want to get along with the west, with washington. and maybe the biggest winners today are these iranian people hopeful that this interim deal would lead to a lifting of the sanctions again that they suffered through for a very long time. >> on the streets of tehran, getting us answers beyond the president, beyond the foreign minister. thank you. >>> heading to the airport a lot of people are doing it and planning a drive for thanks giving. beware. a deadly wunter storm may disrupt your plans. up next, we'll tell you where it's headed next. ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ [ male announcer ] the beautifully practical and practically beautiful cadillac srx.