liz: how many followers? >> i have 41,000 followers. so. liz: 41,000! adam: you tweeted this thing is going to collapse? >> yeah. watch my twitter feed. when i challenged dick costello, ceo of twitter on fax it is all male board. he tweeted i am the carrot top of academic sources. he started attacking me, couldn't bear to face the truth something wrong with a company out of touch with its customers. all white males who don't understand the growing market, african-americans are increasing you have more women than menussing twitter. they don't even understand their customers. liz: we've got to go, one of you is going to be right and we'll see how it plays out. vivek, good to see you. >> ne to two years. liz: one to two years collapse. we'll watch it as we do. take the tape. we'll bring you back. >> absolutely. liz: fair around balanced discussion there. adam: both were terrific. liz: democrats set to take over new york city's city hall in the first time in a quarter century. we will find out what new mayor bill blass blast could mean for -- bill deblasio.

liz: mark? >> i don't agree, but then again you see things like fed funds futures that are very, very low, we're half the rates we were, and interest rates continue to be low. so you've seen a lot of these yield-sensitive spots, utilities, home builders, they're starting to bottom out, and they've been big laggards. i do think this is a bubble, but until we see signs of breaking, it's going to be tough to do anything about it. liz: good to see all of you. we love our traders. we've been talking about janet yellen, her confirmation hearing today was not just about fed policy, it was also about her leadership style. did she give any clues as to how she might lead the federal reserve? aside from the fact she'd be the first woman, peter barnes, there's some other issues at work. she might be a teeny bit more hawkish than she's letting on. >> reporter: yeah. now that she's going to be in charge of the fomc, she has to be a little more liz. the one thing she did show she has the skill for, staying on

liz: right. markets were down already but they took another leg down by about 20 points on that news. >> could certainly upset people. liz: let's get to nicole petallides. let's get to twitter. it could soar on the first day. off the highs. we feel sorry for retailer investor that jumped in up 86%. because now it is up 75%. >> right at high of the day it was $50.09 a share. closing now at $45 even if you bought it at 49 already lost money. adam: another picture after model s fire surfaceing. >> this is tough with this public relations that become as big mess. tesla down 13% this week. this is something they have to clean up now. liz: up more than 400% over the past year. >> right. a winner this year. liz: winner. elon musk a friend of this network. we were first to show the rocket ship company, spacex, remained true to us. unlike twitter people. we'll hear more. groupon daily deal sight taking a hit ahead of third quarter earnings after the bell. >> that is under pressure. that is down over 4%. d

. ♪ ♪ liz: good amp, everybody, i'm liz claman. it is the last hour of trading, and if you are one of those people cheering just as the dow jones industrials after being down 117 points then turned positive, happened precisely around 12:26 eastern time, it would have been a short celebration because it then crossed the unchanged line some 50 times. we could see that added to the next hour. without much more than disappointing earnings to follow, the markets have sort of been having a tough time finding direction. two names looking ugly at the moment, tenet health care sliding 32% after the hospital operator recorded higher expenses. the is stock is down about -- the stock is down about 10% right now or $5.01. delphi reported better than expected profits but got tarnished by investors after it cut its fore or cast for the rest of the year -- forecast for the rest of the year, it stands at $54.99. now, arguably one of the most closely-watched earnings reports of the entire day will be tesla which which reports after the bell. the sec

liz? liz: there is no doubt that the insurance companies have been jerked around on the leash of what this will was supposed to be and the law exactly. can i just say, though, and we love capitalism here, do not cry for the insurance companies. they are mostly at 52-week highs as we take a look at just basic trading today, everybody's moving higher. they win this way. they win if more people go on the insurance rolls. either way, you will see higher premiums, as you have decades before this law, peter barnes, came through. i mean, come on. [laughter] you can blame this law all you want, but let's be honest, these premiums have certainly gone higher and higher. okay. closing bell ringing in 50 minutes. hedge funds tuning into some interesting stocks. they're taking big bets on pandora, soured on apple in the third quarter and what else? what does legendary billionaire investor wilbur ross buying and selling? he marchs to the beat of a different drum. he's playing that tune for us exclusivel

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liz: here we go with the nasdaq. liz: american airlines parent and u.s. airways of greece to settlement with the department of justice that were finally allowing the merger to go ahead. finally let this thing go through. david: against those first mergers. talking about that later on. liz: shares of the largest u.s. some builders have a big punch. revenue surged 40%. that is a real number. david: and as part of the third quarter results. adding 305,000 drivers. liz: that new ipad many. does it really engender excitement? david: and they have cut the price. the wireless contract. a new cheaper from tomorrow. "after the bell" starts right now. ♪ liz: that comes in a combination of 200 plus. so when apple comes up with four different colors. david: i think it is priced in half. that is dramatic. liz: this breakdown the day's action. warren financial-services chief investment officer who will tell us why he thinks stocks are ready to hit print is. and joining us from the pits of the cme. the price action today was interesting. look. in nasdaq appears, a

liz? liz: there is something in china, david, called "single's day", where young people celebrate or lament being single but oddly enough the biggest online shopping day in the world thanks to alibaba's online marketplaces. david: alibaba once again. jo ling kent with more on the story. hi, jo. >> hey, dave, hey liz? can you buy happiness. alibaba says yes. they have been slashing prices on single's day for 24 hours since back in 2009 because the date is easy to remember. we can't forget that because now it is the biggest online shopping day in the world. prices on tabu and tima the main e-commerce platforms are discounted across the board. as a result, alibaba shattered last year's sales record in just 13 hours. alibaba group said it sold $5.7 billion worth of products. contrast with last year when it sold 3.1 billion. in 2011, 1.25 billion in sales. cyber monday sales here in the u.s. pale in comparison. last year it was almost $2 billion. if you're wondering what people buy on the sites

liz? liz: let's bring bob into the conversation because, again, as you and everybody else who invests in stocks right now is watching, november and december tend to do really well when it comes to equities. so do you expect that if there is a correction, it comes in 2014, and in so, how -- if so, how bad would it be? >> yeah, liz, i think this rally's going to keep going into the first part of the year. historically, when the market's been up 20 percent plus through october, it's tended to continue to rally into the paris quarter. actually, 12 out of the last 14 times we've had a 20% gain in the first ten months it's kept rallying. now, i wouldn't suggest that it's going to -- well -- liz: i don't know, 20 %, bob, identify heard 10, maybe 15. you're the first person to come on in a while and say 20%. >> no, it's up 20% through october, so we'll keep rallying, i believe. liz: okay. >> i do think getting into next year we could see a 20% correction. people must be mindful that sentiment is e

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liz: okay. so -- well, 1286, we're not far from that at the moment but down 22 points, that is definitely a message. do we see any translation when it comes to the energy markets then? >> right now i'm a seller of crude oil into rallies. i don't think we get above $100 by the end of the year. i think we're going to keep the pressure on crude oil. the economy is not good enough yet to get it out of here. we don't have enough in the oil market news wise to get crude to rally. i still think we come off. we're still building a cushion, we still have oversupplies. down we go. liz: keith, keith, what do we see monday? can we spinit forward here? such a nice rally, does it continue on monday? >> well, once again, like i said before, i don't think we're going to see any great selloff or rally. a lot of the rally you have today is a snapback from yesterday's selloff and acceleration into the close. liz: yeah. >> it's going to be, and what the fed does is going to be data-dependent, and we just don't see

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liz: it is awfully cheap. isn't a bank fascinating given the federal reserve policies as of late, the past couple of years, have been very helpful letting them park their money at the fed versus lending is more. any move by the fed to shake that system up. >> you're right. this is the excess reserves that the bank keeps on comparing as they lie bonds from banks and wall street firms. right now the fed is paying them a quarter of a percentage point to keep their money part there. there was some discussion about whether or not they might change that policy, but they did not make any decisions on that. if they decided to change that policy, cut the rate, that can listen up a lot of money for more lending. liz: looking at sectors and how they have reacted. financial services, bank of america, berkshire hathaway, jpmorgan, they're all lower including morgan stanley as well. obviously it is not everybody getting hammered here. >> the banks were up earlier today, but now that you have down arrows. liz: thanks to pete

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liz: he has appropriately titled company. >> happy thanksgiving. liz: to you as well. david: is a good man to listen to. black friday is only two days away. they're not the only ones with the deals, coming up another industry that is getting in on the action. are you one of the many americans traveling for things given? nasty weather could put a damper on your trip. where are the travel bottlenecks? the very latest coming next. stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum. new from philips sonicare. david: in time or a quick speed read. five stories in a minute. u.s. border applications fell for a fourth straight week according to mortgage bankers association home loan applications slipped .3% last week and falling 7% over the past four weeks. the sec is expanding its probe into the hiring practices of several more big wall street banks. u.s. authorities request information from both citigroup and morgan stanley bid blackstone group and hilton worldwide are meeting with potential investors ahead of the hotel chains plan ipo

look at this number. 6th straight week of gains, liz. liz: the dow is up 85 points. last 13 minutes of trade we jumped from up 70 to up 85. not bad. david: some people may be getting nose bleeds but you can't fight the tape. that is what the tape is. a great way to end the week. liz: front page headlines this beak. president obama is brainstorming with insurance ceos this afternoon how to enroll americans in health insurance before the looming deadlines under the obamacare health care law. david: u.s. industrial production unexpectedly fell in october by .1% but underlying data on factories suggested economy remains on a moderate growth path. liz: in the new york region, so-called empire manufacturing index a regional index focusing on new york fell to mine must 2.21. the first negative reading since may which raises concerns about the economy. david: those concerns were not reflected in the market. energy giant conocophillips lost ground in today's trading session after billionaire warren buffett sharply cut his stake in that company, preferring to invest in rival e

liz: extended stay. this is america's ipo was a big success with its stock jumping, look at that. 18% by the end of the session. biggest owner of mid-priced longer stay hotels in the nation. david: qualcomm geting a pop today. goldman sachs putting the chipmaker on highly-priced conviction buy list because of qualcomm's expanding chip margins. liz: you would have known that had you watched us. we had ceo exclusively last week >>> the homebuilder raised its full-year earnings guidance above wall street forecast. the future looks bright. "after the bell", it is always bright for you. we're starting right now david: time to break down today's record-breaking market action. we have scott shimmer horn, granite investment advisors chief investment officer. he says there is still skepticism in the market despite the latest rally but he is a real bull. todd horowitz joining us from cme. we have a bull-bear thing, todd. with we'll hear from scott in a moment there is no such thing as a bubble going on with this m

liz: you think so? 3 trillion on the books at the fed. >> she will be very vague, and she has to be. i don't expect her to give too much information. is she intends to what is going on? absolutely. but once she gets in that chair, she will have a much better idea of how things will play out. liz: one thing we all know if you look at the indices including the transports which have hit record after record, what does it tell you guys? these stocks and these names have done a moonshot. we know involvement has been bullish for stocks but you flip it over and look at the u.s. dollar which any day does not know what it is doing. any kind of tightening, dan, would be bullish for the dollar, right? >> ultimately it will be bullish for the economy because people are too fearful of tapering. member we are at quarter percent on rates. at the rock bottom, so they will go out. in most recoveries as rates are going up, also the stock market goes up. initial move will be down, use it as an opportunity. liz: thank you v

liz: it has gone low. if we were able to show, i don't know, six-month chart, anything, one month. >> right. liz: we have seen a relatively precipitous fall but partly on fundamentals there is so much supply. >> take a look, quietly exxonmobil has started moving again after their earnings. that's one that is creeping up. in terms of asia, only thing i know about asia is the song, he of the moment. i'm not an expert on china. i think there is value in energy. gold's probably a little overdone. really financials, if we do start seeing rates rally the financials are probably undervalued. david: they took off today though. it has to be noted. paul dietrich, good to see you, mark sebastion we'll check in with you couple minutes when s&p futures close. liz: have a good weekend. obamacare rollout as you know has been a disaster but what happens number ever enrollees jumps from hundreds to tens of thousands? could the glitches we've seen so far just be the tip of the iceberg or will the system be fixed when that h

liz: yeah. and, you know, looking at -- down just about a percent be here, but general motors has come firing back, and some younger folks are buying these cadillacs. so this is sort of the beginning of the great new way, perhaps, with electric vehicles. the competition's always good. we've got that closing bell ringing in about 39 minutes. fed chairman ben bernanke getting ready to deliver a major speech about two huge issues for investors. we're telling you exactly what those issues are and what mr. bernanke is like to say, because fed policy moves the markets and your money. it will be just one of the topics in my exclusive interview with terry duffy,cme annual global financial leadership conference in naples, florida. such a parade of guests through here. hillary clinton was the keynote speak per yesterday, all major names right here that matter to your money. ♪ ♪ you really love, what would you do?" ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker.

liz: too big to jail. also stressing that today's settlement against the hedge fund firm started by billionaire steve cohen does not close the door on future criminal prosecution of individuals at that hedge fund. now, sac capital has released this statement saying in part: we take responsibility for the handful of men who pleaded guilty and whose conduct gave rise to sac's liability. quote, the tiny fraction of wrongdoers does not represent the 3,000 honest men and women wolf worked here -- who have worked here during the past 21 years. sac has never encouraged, promoted oral tolerated insider trading. no outside investors. our charlie gasparino has been following the case from the very beginning, he will be here in just a few moments, he's running back from the courthouse to tell us what it all means for founder steve cohen and his future managing money. and maybe even some of the other firms that might be now in the crosshairs. the stunning market rally continues right now. the scorecard, s&p 500 up som

liz: okay. so they made an acquisition. they're still taking cash and putting to it work. the stock is slightly lower on the bid and ask at the moment from closing value but nothing that appears to be too alarming. adam: this is a social commerce site. obviously a strong economy wouldn't be bad to be exposed there. liz: right. let's bring in the market panel with today's aation. joe hider, raymond financial managing principle. dan in the pits of the cme. dan, take it away. you missed the crowd surfing at new york stock exchange and that hysteria over there they tried to make it look like it wasn't -@hysteria. but it was. stock of twitter jumping some 86%, closing lower, go with it on their refusal to talk to fox business. tell us about the action you saw in the price action. >> you know today everything was about twitter in the way that the market was completely focused on it. it did real well on its ipo i would be a little bit hesitant of it. we don't know how they will monetize the product. if

liz: how so? >> more people are interested in pets than they were three, four, five years, ago, the pet, veterinary business has done better than the economy in general. liz: how did you know that that would be the case when, what is it three years ago you -- >> almost five years. liz: you bought the pet business for quite a pretty penny. that is commiting a lot of capital, a lot of cash on the books. >> we have a fair price for the u.s. one. paid a fair price for u.s. one and collected businesses in europe. we're the largest provider ever products through veterinarians as distributor in the world, australia and europe, even in us. liz: you're global, talked about this many times. china, they're just now waking up to dental care. >> yes. liz: how bad are their teeth? as bad as british. sorry about that. >> i will not go on tv to talk about the british teeth. liz: he is south african. >> bottom line demand for dental care in china will be significant. there are 20,000 dentists graduateing a year in

liz? liz: okay. thank you very much, peter barnes. we've got the closing bell ringing in 51 minutes. did you shop? see, david asman told me last week, oh, i've already done my shopping for christmas. two days away from hanukkah, what is going on, right? retailers are gearing up for all of you whether you are on target or behind. it's the biggest holiday shopping day of the season. who's going to rake in the most dough? the high-end retailers or the low end? and more importantly, how can you, the investor, profit from it? which stocks will see the biggest bump? we've got two with total experts with two totally different opinions on this. and speaking of profiting, the right to sell plastic firearms and how big a business is this going to become. the city of philadelphia has banned plastic guns, but that won't stop some high-tech companies from printing them. we're going to talk to the founder of defense distributed, the first company to produce successful blueprints for a plastic 3-d gun, a fox business exclusive. stay with us. ♪ ♪

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liz macdonald, what is it? liz: is so simple. warren buffett has been advising this is one of the best indicators to show you where the stock market standing valuation in any given moment. basically he is saying no stock-index should be worth more than the entire u.s. gross domestic product or gross national product. he is essentially saying of the wilshire 5,000 if you use that as a proxy is now showing that the market is overvalued. it is pricey. could be in the late stages of a rally. let's show you what it is looking at. this signal, warren buffett cited in 1999. and low and behold the market did fall back down. it also signals red in 2007 so you see $18.8 trillion is the total market value. look at that. you will see $16.7 trillion is the value of the economy. let's break it down. you are seeing the wilshire 5,000 index is valued at about 113% of gdp and historical mean here is 70% so we are basically way above what historical average and so the issue is when do you buy? warren buffett some analysts are saying, buying when t

liz: okay. because we're not all too distracted like randy zuckerberg just told us. look, this is fascinating to me. you obviously want to be a whole entertainment system. does it work with other strategies within microsoft, say skype, bing, etc. >> absolutely. so i think xbox one is probably a flagship for microsoft that brings a bunch of things together. you've got the cloud, you get skype, you can do fully hi-def -- liz: okay. old games on the old xbox 360, do they still work on the new one? >> they don't work on the new one. liz: i'm going to kill you! [laughter] this is what i hear from people whose children have them, this is expensive. >> here's what we do that's great. we let you through a cable plug your 360 into your xbox one so you can still play your old games and few ones. liz: can you beat what ps1 has sold? >> we're going to find out tonight. we've had the biggest preorders we've ever had, more than a factor of two to one versus 360. haven't given out specific numbers, but we're l

liz? liz: looking back we just had the former ecb economist. michael milkin says we have to get government out of propping up the housing market. stop helping people with mortgages. terry duffy ripping some new cftc new rules. particularly collateral for treasurys. that is a nightmare for u.s. business. we have the sal khan, he started putting together youtube lessons on simple math problems. today, four million problems are solved per day for u.s. schoolchildren. he is changing the face of education, david. i asked him a question. i know you will be very interested to hear the answer to, have you taken on the teachers union next? sal khan. david: i love it. we have the chairman of medtronics coming on. john coffey will talk about the jpmorgan decision. we have a lot going on. stay right where you are. we'll first of all take a look what happened in the market. we have jeff saut, raymond james chief investment strategist. you know him. he knows all the details. he called that downturn over

liz: why? >> because the federal government is not authorized under the constitution to do it and states are authorized under their constitutions to do it. the theory being the government closest to the problem, a mom with three children -- liz: people get lost, you know. >> should move to another state. closest to the problem should address the issue. liz: really? charles: the point you're making, emac, suggest to her, don't buy of the kids nikes. liz: i'm not saying she does. charles: don't smoke a pack of cigarettes a day. there are things people can do. you won't change your own life. develop a platform to change your kids lives. liz: we have to protect the truly destitute. i think we both agree. charles: i think we are. >> i had lunch yesterday with very, very famous wealthy person in new york city, who all of us know been on the show many times. liz: stuart varney? >> won't give you the name. >> didn't say wealthiest. >> five years old and mother worked two jobs while the kid went to scho

liz? >> thank you. >> always do on the first day of the month we get auto sales numbers from all the companies. some of them missed wall street expectations for auto sales in october. audi of america is kind of stunning here. reporting its 34th consecutive month of not just beats but record sales. sales rising 11% during the month of october. what is really at heart of this? what do the company's numbers indicate about the overall economy? these are luxury vehicles. joining us in fox business exclusive, audi of america president, scott keough. a friend of this program. we back all the right horse. with your horsepower, stunning what you guys have consistently done. you talk about month over month, year-over-year to get audi where it is today. now you're trying to take on mercedes. can you do it and what will you do to make that reality? >> liz, u thank you very much for the welcome. you did back the right horse. fortunately the american consumers are backing the right horse as well. for us

liz: okay. but they're doing it in a different way because there are still people who feel very, very conservative about this and feel that there are still students. they should not be paid to perform like professionals. this particular suit kinds of turns it on its head. almost forming if there were an award like forming a pension fund of sorts. is that correct? >> in some ways, yes. they would collect this money. the money would be set aside and they would collect this money after they leave the institution. these players do, they do disclose, they do sign documentation that says, that they can, the ncaa can use their image and likeness, but at the same time, the debate continues to rage on. i think this could be a critical step forward. let's say the fund is set up, and they require, that you can only get that money, if you graduate from college and put statute of limitations on how long you have to graduate. that would be great. liz: by the way, we just showed what kids get in scholarships.

liz: up 101%. >> crazy, right. david: talk about a stock that has been beaten down relentlessly in 2013. hewlett-packard today, took off. why? >> when you look at some of these technology names you see them turning around. [closing bell ringing] nasdaq going higher going into the close. david: bells ringing on wall street. what a positive day for a newmont in november. we see all green arrows. one, russell 2000 getting kicked around. small and mid-size caps, having a tough time. nasdaq managed to squeak out a positive day, just barely. dow and s&p firmly in the green. a good day for those indexes to start the month, please. >> brand newmont, what do we general motors gaining 16%. ford sales up 14%. chrysler saw a jump of 11%. ford and chrysler numbers slightly below forecast. david: u.s. manufacturing grew in the fastest pace in 2 1/2 years. institute for supply management report said

liz: okay. but let's pull apart the numbers here, and everybody was very interested in how the pc sales were doing, but i look at the server business which has been extraordinarily successful, say, for example, over at intel making a lot of money. the moon shot business for hewlett-packard which is, you know, their server or business, is that making a dent that would be significant enough to raise the stock price at some point? >> i think it's still too early to tell on that. at the end of the day, their server business was actually, the industry standard server business for the company was up 10% year-over-year. that's their x86 server business. their business-critical systems were actually down 7% year-over-year -- 17%, and that's going to continue to decline. i think, ultimately, there's going to have to be a lot more servers that drive the company. when you step back, the top line wasn't that bad. they actually beat consensus expectations by a billion, but i think the problem was there wasn'

liz cheney was answering a question from chris wallace. whenever she's talked about this in the media, she's answering a question. but it's the way you answer the question. and there's a way for her to state her beliefs without throwing her sister and her sister-in-law and her family under the bus. why we find this so fascinating is one, it's a political family. it's the cheneys. but two, former vice president cheney was the one who always talked about this and he always talked about it in such a reserved manner that you knew that you ask the question, he gave his answer, and you moved on. he loves his daughter. he accepts her. but that was it. he didn't want to say anything more about it. so the fact that this argument has exploded out there, first on fox news, then on facebook. and then with the statement from vice president and lynn cheney, it's a spectacle that i don't think liz cheney needs right now. as you said, folks in wyoming, they're not going to be in favor of same-sex marriage. it only shows -- only highlights more bad news fo

in 2013, liz can't even do that. i think that mary views this as an unnecessary political compromise. she is selling out for no reason. >> and part of this also is the fact that when you survey the national political scene, it is unbelievable how dynastic our politics are and are becoming. i mean, everything jeb bush does gets tons of headlines. of course, hillary clinton is often thought of as the, you know, presumptive front-runner. if you look, this is just the senate, this is senate dynasty, senate candidates 2014, begich, cheney, pryor, udall and udall. >> and nunn, too. >> georgia, nun and carter. >> yeah. >> and part of what happens when you get dynastic politics is you get family feuds in front of the whole country. >> you do. but i think, you know, another thing that is important for us to remember is that americans like brand names. >> right. >> and when you go to the grocery store -- >> familiarity, yes. >> at the grocery store, you have a choice between 7-up and super-up and people choose 7up because it's

liz is on one side, dick cheney and mary and everyone else on the other side. >> liz has clearly made a calculation that for political reasons that she needs to stake out this position in a public way. and dick cheney's statement is notable, he wants her daughter to get elected, doing a fundraiser for her in denver soon. he very much is trying to give her credibility so it does not look to voters in wyoming like this is some kind of calculated political move to get where the voters are but some kind of long held view. >> probably wants a happy holiday between his two kids as well. this is a family fractured by this and it speaks to i think the issue of same-sex marriage and it gets personal. we've had lawmakers come out of support of same-sex marriage after their own children have come out and others who have not. >> and that ultimately only two republicans have come out in the senate for same-sex marriage at this point. that really does speak to the fact that the broader national politics have changed and continues to change in a dramatic way. at this point if you're running in a com

liz: back then we hear them. listen, an apology from the president, i'm sorry doesn't help when the irs, irs won't take an i'm sorry. doesn't help the middle class families losing their coverage or cancer patients losing their coverage and doctors and people they're seeing, their jobs cuts. charles: the president, he did not apologize for being dishonest to the american public. >> right. he's saying well, i'm sorry thaw find yourselves in this position as if it was some sort of active thing that they did to get themselves into this position where they're losing their health plan. no, it was his law that has his name on it which has forced these people into this position. liz: i said the irs won't take an i'm sorry, i'm said the irs won't take i'm sorry from the american people. charles: of course not. here's the thing. no adjustments are being made. if you're sorry, if you're contrite, if you hear my pain, if you feel it, what are you doing about it? >> if he were sincere then he should have turned and in the sam

. >> dick cheney's daughter, liz. >> that remark by liz cheney. >> some of your conservative critics say you have flipped positions on some issues to try to attract wyoming voters. you now say you oppose same sex marriage but in 2009 you opposed a constitutional amendment and you supported the state department offering benefits. they say that's a flip. >> it's not. i standby both positions. >> they say that's a flip. >> i don't believe in amending the constitution. i do believe in the tradition definition of marriage. >> your sister who is married to a woman, she said for the record, i love my sister, you, but she is dead wrong on the issue of marriage. >> liz said pubically my sister and i disagree on gay marriage. i'm not for gay marriage despite the fact that my sister is married. >> i love mary very much. >> it got uglier from there. her wife said liz supported us at her wedding and now she is turning on us for political reasons. >> this is just an issue on which we disagree. >> in the spotlight tonight, the cheney family feud. joining me now, malika henderson. it seems inevitabl

. >> dick cheney's daughter, liz. >> that remark by liz cheney. >> some of your conservative critics say you have flipped positions on some issues to try to attract wyoming voters. you now say you oppose same sex marriage but in 2009 you opposed a constitutional amendment and you supported the state department offering benefits. they say that's a flip. >> it's not. i standby both positions. >> they say that's a flip. >> i don't believe in amending the constitution. i do believe in the tradition definition of marriage. >> your sister who is married to a woman, she said for the record, i love my sister, you, but she is dead wrong on the issue of marriage. >> liz said pubically my sister and i disagree on gay marriage. i'm not for gay marriage despite the fact that my sister is married. >> i love mary very much. >> it got uglier from there. her wife said liz supported us at her wedding and now she is turning on us for political reasons. >> this is just an issue on which we disagree rb in the spotlight tonight, the cheney family feud. joining me now, malika henderson. it seems inevitable

liz's pgs so to treat my family as second class citizens. not a position i can be lovingly tolerant towards. liz cheney says she's always treated her sister and her sister's family with love and respect exactly as she should have done. the sharp exchange is a huge weight of coverage on cnn. also especially on msnbc. >> next tonight we take you inside a private family feud playing out on the national stage. >> the close-knit cheney family has always presented a united front until now. >> why on earth would liz cheney come out so directly against equality and marriage when she has a sibling. >> nobody has started polling yet on whether or not wyoming voters want a senator whose parents fight with their sister on behalf via press release after a nasty facebook feud involving the same question on whether or not i was lying on fox news sunday about how much i hate you or whether or not i was lying last thanksgiving when we stopped talking when i was still being nice to your kids. >> is all this media attention warranted? lauren ashburn, fox news

by liz is that mary has also called into question not just liz on policy but sort of her character and kind of implying her stance may not be so much of a hardcore conviction and more of a political play. i think that's what you saw dick cheney coming out today and trying to say, whatever liz thinks, she really believes this. >> right. she did not go to mary cheney's wedding. >> one quick point, this goes to where i would disagree with van, which is that many republicans in the party believe that this is an issue that has to be defined by what we're for, not by what we're against. meaning that we're anti-gay marriage. instead, there are people who have a substantive agreement for believing that we have to support the traditional institution of marriage and traditional definition of marriage. >> all right. thank you all so much. great discussion. >>> when we come back, a shooting spree in the heart of paris leads to a manhunt. that's next. disturbing surveillance video of this man police are searching for. >>> plus, apparently he feels he hasn't given "saturday night live" enough materi

it seems to me that he was coming in a little on liz's side. liz has always treated her sister and her sister's family with love and respect exactly as she should have done. compassion is called for even when there is a disagreement about such a fundamental matter and liz's many kindnesses should not be used to distort her position. is he taking sides here? >> i think it's indicative of an argument that's going on across americans getting ready to sit down at thanksgiving tables and there's division within families, neighborhoods, capitol hill, you name it, on the issue of legalization of same sex marriage. we know that the polls show a split within the country and yeah, they love liz and i'm sure the sister, they love each other, they need to learn to speak respectfully to each other as we do when we talk about this issue. this is a very important issue. we need to be able to talk about it with each other respectfully and both sides agree that we each have a voice in this issue. that it's okay to disagree, it doesn't make you a bigot or make y